Orphaned python-alsa

2011-05-15 Thread Robin 'cheese' Lee
Not required by any package other than alsa-tools.


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Re: Systemd questions following 15B upgrade

2011-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 13.05.11 23:57, Philip Prindeville (philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com) 
wrote:

 I installed F15B, but now I'm seeing:
 
 May 13 23:01:01 mail /usr/sbin/crond[5243]: pam_systemd(crond:session): 
 Moving new user session for root into control group /user/root/18.
 May 13 23:01:01 mail /USR/SBIN/CROND[5243]: pam_systemd(crond:session): 
 Moving remaining processes of user session 18 of root into control group 
 /user/root/master.
 
 every hour.  How do I squelch this message?

We can probably lower this log messages to DEBUG for the future.

 
 Also, now that we don't use upstart, what's the equivalent of:
 
 chkconfig service on

You may continue to use that. It will work just fine. The native systemd
replacement is his:

systemctl enable name.service

 for turning services on?  Is there a FAQ/Release Note for users to
 make sure the migration to F15 included all services being correctly
 configured under systemd?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet

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Re: And logging issues following F15B upgrade

2011-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 14.05.11 12:01, Philip A. Prindeville 
(philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com) wrote:

 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.097131] sendmail[2179]: p4DH6ui4002179: 
 Milter delete (noop): header: X-Spam-Score
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.105238] sendmail[2179]: p4DH6ui4002179: 
 Milter add: header: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 192.168.1.3
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.115242] lmtpunix[2176]: accepted 
 connection
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.119932] lmtpunix[2176]: lmtp connection 
 preauth'd as postman
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.884189] lmtpunix[2176]: skiplist: 
 checkpointed /var/lib/imap/user/p/philipp.seen (387 records, 116172 bytes) in 
 0 seconds
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.895967] lmtpunix[2176]: seen_db: user 
 philipp opened /var/lib/imap/user/p/philipp.seen
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  188.010336] master[1892]: process 2170 
 exited, status 0
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  188.016042] master[2204]: about to exec 
 /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/lmtpd
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  188.022558] lmtpunix[2204]: executed
 
 so it looks like mail messages are being relogged as kernel messages  
 What's going on?

systemd provides logging from  beginning of userspace on. As long as
syslog isn't up this will go to kmsg. As soon as rsyslog is up the
kernel log buffer will be fliushed to disk and all following messages go
directly to disk with no involvement of kmsg.

In F16 and later you'll be able to use dmesg -k to get the usual dmesg
output but with all non-kernel messages removed.

Note that dmesg never has been about kernel messages only. Low-level
userspace system components logged to kmsg already. All we added is that
during early boot /dev/log logging ends up in kmsg.

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Re: Orphaning gbirthday and linbox

2011-05-15 Thread Thomas Spura
On Sat, 14 May 2011 21:14:20 -0600
Jerry James wrote:

 On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Thomas Spura
 toms...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
         * linbox:
           Required for SAGE [1], but FTBFS since a while and the new
           version now requires another package, not yet in fedora.
  This is hard to maintain, because of many multilib problems/hacks
           etc.
           (CC'ing givaro maintainer, so he doesn't need to wait for
  an upgrade for linbox.)
 
 What other package, not yet in Fedora, does the new version require?
 I've been collecting SAGE-related packages lately, so I might be
 willing to take this one, too.

The latest version 1.2.0 is now complaining with:
 ERROR: Fflas-Ffpack not found!
and I gave up, because linbox is quite hacky.

Maybe it would be better to use the sage sourcepackage of linbox and
not packaging it from the upstream webpage...

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-05-15 Thread Camilo Mesias
I did an install from the RC3 live CD (on USB) and it went well.

However F15 remains very unstable, I don't think I will be able to use
it. The main problem is that it will lock up spontaneously (then heats
up if left as if in a tight CPU consuming loop). Apart from that any
kind of session ending - logout, reboot, and other things like
suspend, hibernate, turning wireless on and off - things that use
systemd maybe? - will lock up the machine in the same way. This
machine was perfectly usable on F14 and never locked up.

I have a bug: 697157 on the kernel which seems to be getting little or
no attention; at the same time I don't have any idea how to diagnose
this given that the logs contain no clues.

It will be back to F14 or I might have to try Ubuntu again for this
hardware if it doesn't improve.

Sorry if the tone of this message is a bit negative. I would love to
use F15 and will continue to test any updates as I find time. I'll be
keen to work with any developers that are interested in debugging the
issues.

-Cam

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Andre Robatino
robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 As per the Fedora 15 schedule [1], Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3
 (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
 download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
 images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
 for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same
 as that for install images, except with the trailing /Fedora/ replaced
 by /Live/.

 Installation:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

 Desktop:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

 Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for installation
 [2] and desktop [3] should pass in order to meet the Final Release
 Criteria [4]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [5],
 or on the test list [6].

 Create Final Release Candidate (RC): Install CD/DVD (installation media):
 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4697

 Create Final Release Candidate (RC): Official Live Images:
 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4699

 F15 Final Blocker tracker bug:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=617261

 F15 Final Nice-To-Have tracker bug:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=657621

 [1] http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-quality-tasks.html
 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
 [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
 [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Final_Release_Criteria
 [5] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
 [6] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test


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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-05-15 Thread Frederic Muller
On 05/15/2011 06:59 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote:
 I did an install from the RC3 live CD (on USB) and it went well.

 However F15 remains very unstable,

Very weird, I've been using F15 since around alpha full time and never 
have any stability problem. I suspect it should be a bug related to your 
specific configuration (hardware?) and worth exploring/troubleshooting.

I had issues with Flash (gnome-shell freezing) but those stops once I 
removed it. Using GNASH now and it works about ok most of the time, 
though I wouldn't consider myself as someone browsing flash sites...

(I watch youtube under HTML5, though it sometimes goes to gnash and 
seems to work as well most of the time too).

I hope my message gives you hope your issues are fixable.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2011-05-15 Thread Camilo Mesias
Thanks, I agree it's a hardware thing although ION / Atom combination
isn't that rare and also used to work fine under F14. I have an older,
larger laptop with Radeon graphics that works OK with F15. Other
machines in the house use F15 and Intel graphics without problems.
That said I really don't want to have a miscellany of different OSs in
the house and the machine that doesn't work is my main one!

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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.05.11 15:28, Michal Hlavinka (mhlav...@redhat.com) wrote:

 Hi,

Heya,

 I'm working with nut upstream to test sysv-systemd changes, but I found some 
 problems and they've came up with a few questions too.
 
 1) does systemd support alternative to service sthd configtest or other 
 special actions?

Additional SysV verbs continue to work with the systemd SysV
compatibility. However, in the long run we'd like people to use
service-specific tools for service-specific operations.

 2) does systemd have support for conditions in service files? It seem it's 
 not 
 supported right now. Is there any plan for this?

I am not entirely sure what you understand by condition, but if you do
understand the same thing as we do, then we support a pretty flexible
set of condition checks:

ConditionPathExists=
ConditionPathIsDirectory=
ConditionDirectoryNotEmpty=
ConditionKernelCommandLine=
ConditionVirtualization=
ConditionSecurity=

The latter two are for checking whether we are run in a virtualized
environment (kvm, vmware, ...), resp with a specific secureity framework
enabled (selinux, ...).

See systemd.unit(5) for details.

 3) in which cases I should ommit [Install] section in service file?

[Install] is used for systemctl enable and systemctl disable. If you
have no such sections these commands will become NOPs. Which is
desirable in two cases: a) you always expect the user to manually create
.wants/ symlinks with ln -s or b) your package hard-enables the service file in
question, because it is such a core component of the system that there
is no point in ever disabling it. One example for such a service is
udev, but of course most services do not qualify as this, and should
hence include [Install].

 
 4) Is there any difference between 
 a) A.service: After=B.service
 and
 b) B.service: Before=A.service
 or both a) and b) are required?

a) implies b) and b) implies a). One of those lines is sufficient,
specifying both doesn't hurt. It's probably a good idea to place the
order line in the small service, relative to the big service, and
leave out the other direction, to simplify things.

 We have service A and service B. Service B requires service A, but it can 
 require service A from different host (depends on configuration). So we've 
 added After=A in service B and also Before=B in service A, but it did not 
 help. Expected result was B is started and if A is configured to start too, 
 it 
 should be started before B. Actual result is that B is started before A if 
 both of them should start (when using systemctl start B.service
 A.service).

As you already filed a bug about currently systemctl start A.service
B.service starts those services in the order you specify them on the
cmdline, in two separate transaction. We should probably fix this to
start them in a single transaction.

 5) in old initscripts, there was /etc/init.d/halt with section for ups 
 shutdown. With that script gone, was that functionality ported to systemd 
 somehow?

Well, any such code is just inherently broken. It *cannot* work. A
number of kernel subsystems hook into the shutdown code of the
kernel. For example storage code syncs meta data to disk after the
reboot() syscall is invoked. If you however turn off power before
reaching reboot(), then this step is omitted which might trigger data
loss. UPS code like that needs to sit in the kernel itself to properly
work. Adding userspace kludges which invokes this from userspace is a
recipe for desaster. The point of UPS is to prevent data loss after all,
and if you turn off the power before the kernel dealt with reboot() you
invite data loss. (And no, just adding random sleeps, is not a fix, it
just delays the problem.)

(That all said you may drop binaries into /lib/systemd/system-shutdown
which are executed right before invoking reboot(). But if you package
anything that drops binaries into that dir for UPS uses, then I will
personally track you down and tell you mom how bad you are!)

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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.05.11 17:04, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote:

 You can run ExecStartPre= before starting a service for syntax checking  
 before starting the service like we do for ..
 
 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/radiusd -C
 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/named-checkconf /etc/named.conf
 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/cupsd -t

Humm, I really wonder what the benefit of placing these lines here
is. What does it buy you?

A sane daemon should do a syntax check anyway when starting (and exit if
it fails), so why do you do another one before? Unless there's a really
good reason for it this just complicates things, makes things slower,
and duplicates everything.

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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/15/2011 01:59 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 On Thu, 12.05.11 17:04, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote:

 You can run ExecStartPre= before starting a service for syntax checking
 before starting the service like we do for ..

 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/radiusd -C
 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/named-checkconf /etc/named.conf
 ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/cupsd -t
 Humm, I really wonder what the benefit of placing these lines here
 is. What does it buy you?

 A sane daemon should do a syntax check anyway when starting (and exit if
 it fails), so why do you do another one before? Unless there's a really
 good reason for it this just complicates things, makes things slower,
 and duplicates everything.

For example if you are doing autogenerated updates on config files you 
might want to test the config before restarting/reloading the daemon 
which is commonly done in enterprise environments running Freeradius and 
Bind atleast those environments I'm familiar with ( cups not so much )...

Also the previous behaviour when starting a service used to throw out 
which config file and which line the syntac error occoured to the 
console however that's no longer the case see 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684152.

As I have mentioned to you previously systemd lacks certain 
administrative features ( yet ) like fine grained failour handling  ( 
like ExecStartPreFail=  etc. ) and more and it comes as a no surprice 
since you seem to have a limited sysadmin perspective/experience on 
things ( after all you are a developer not sysadmin ) as your blog post 
indicates which are targeted more at the above average end user running 
something @ home than real sysadmins in real enterprise environments 
from my pov.

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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 15.05.11 15:55, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote:

 
 On 05/15/2011 01:59 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
  On Thu, 12.05.11 17:04, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote:
 
  You can run ExecStartPre= before starting a service for syntax checking
  before starting the service like we do for ..
 
  ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/radiusd -C
  ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/named-checkconf /etc/named.conf
  ExecStartPre=/usr/sbin/cupsd -t
  Humm, I really wonder what the benefit of placing these lines here
  is. What does it buy you?
 
  A sane daemon should do a syntax check anyway when starting (and exit if
  it fails), so why do you do another one before? Unless there's a really
  good reason for it this just complicates things, makes things slower,
  and duplicates everything.
 
 For example if you are doing autogenerated updates on config files you 
 might want to test the config before restarting/reloading the daemon 
 which is commonly done in enterprise environments running Freeradius and 
 Bind atleast those environments I'm familiar with ( cups not so much
 )...

Well, but ExecStartPre= doesn't help you with this. As it is run only
after the service is already stopped.

It has been suggested that we add ExecRestartPre=, i.e. something we run
before stopping a service for a restart. It has been on the TODO list
for a while, but is currently not available. ExecStartPre= doesn't
appear useful for this stuff at all to me.

 Also the previous behaviour when starting a service used to throw out 
 which config file and which line the syntac error occoured to the 
 console however that's no longer the case see 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684152.

In F16 it is our plan to make all service STDOUT/STDERR to go to syslog
by default. As soon as we have that and also can relate syslog output to
systemd services we can make this kind of output more accessible.

 As I have mentioned to you previously systemd lacks certain 
 administrative features ( yet ) like fine grained failour handling  ( 
 like ExecStartPreFail=  etc. ) and more and it comes as a no surprice 
 since you seem to have a limited sysadmin perspective/experience on 
 things ( after all you are a developer not sysadmin ) as your blog post 
 indicates which are targeted more at the above average end user running 
 something @ home than real sysadmins in real enterprise environments 
 from my pov.

Sorry, I still haven't found the time to reply to your long mail about
this. It's not forgotten. ;-) From a quick browse through it I think
this is mostly a misunderstanding however, and you can already do what
you want to do with the current code.

Lennart

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Access to some of Alexey Torkhov's packages

2011-05-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Alexey hasn't been doing a lot of Fedora related stuff recently. I was able
to reach him indirectly a few months ago to get access to some of his
packages that depend on ogre. But more recently I have been trying to get
access to some of his other game related packages in advance of issues,
so that I could work on them in a more timely fashion. However there was
no response to my email messages noting the I requested access in the
package database system. For a few other packages I was able to have
another co-maintainer give me access but for the following packages
Alexey is the only one that can approve access by the normal means:
boswars-addons, btanks, gnubik and kcheckers.

gnubik currently needs to be fixed in rawhide for the guile update and there
is a new upstream version available. The others I wasn't in a special hurry
to touch write now.
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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
 5) in old initscripts, there was /etc/init.d/halt with section for ups
 shutdown. With that script gone, was that functionality ported to systemd
 somehow?

 Well, any such code is just inherently broken. It *cannot* work.
Such code has worked fine for more than ten years, and Fedora has
shipped it for a long time as well. Did we ship code that could not
ever have worked?

snip
 The point of UPS is to prevent data loss after all,
 and if you turn off the power before the kernel dealt with reboot() you
 invite data loss.
At that point, all non-root filesystems are unmounted; / has been
remounted read-only, which means the kernel has synced all dirty data,
and waited for the writeback to finish. So reboot() only needs to
write very little to the disks, if anything at all.  The UPS shutdown
command doesn't turn off the power immediately, the UPS shuts down
after a delay, usually 30 seconds.  30 seconds was plenty to shut down
the system properly even 10 years ago, and AFAIK it is still plenty
today.
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[bucardo/f14] - new version 4.4.4

2011-05-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
Summary of changes:

  8ae56a4... - new version 4.4.4 (*)

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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/15/2011 04:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 Well, but ExecStartPre= doesn't help you with this. As it is run only
 after the service is already stopped.

 It has been suggested that we add ExecRestartPre=, i.e. something we run
 before stopping a service for a restart. It has been on the TODO list
 for a while, but is currently not available. ExecStartPre= doesn't
 appear useful for this stuff at all to me.

Would not ExecStopPre= suffice for this ?

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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/15/2011 05:05 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
 On 05/15/2011 04:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 Well, but ExecStartPre= doesn't help you with this. As it is run only
 after the service is already stopped.

 It has been suggested that we add ExecRestartPre=, i.e. something we run
 before stopping a service for a restart. It has been on the TODO list
 for a while, but is currently not available. ExecStartPre= doesn't
 appear useful for this stuff at all to me.

 Would not ExecStopPre= suffice for this ?

As in having ExecStopPre= instead lof ExecRestartPre=?

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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 15.05.11 17:05, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote:

 
 On 05/15/2011 04:08 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
  Well, but ExecStartPre= doesn't help you with this. As it is run only
  after the service is already stopped.
 
  It has been suggested that we add ExecRestartPre=, i.e. something we run
  before stopping a service for a restart. It has been on the TODO list
  for a while, but is currently not available. ExecStartPre= doesn't
  appear useful for this stuff at all to me.
 
 Would not ExecStopPre= suffice for this ?

No, ExecStopPre= cannot be used for making shutdown of a service
conditional. Even if one of the pre lines fails we will go on with
shutting down the service, however we will store the exit code and the
service will be in failed state once fully shut down.

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Re: systemd questions

2011-05-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
 Well, adding 30s-sleep()s here and there and everywhere is a hack, not a
 clean fix. But if you have a lot of sync to disk, and/or a slow disk,
 then 30s might not be enough and you are fucked.
I can't see where would that a lot of sync to disk come from: the
filesystems are synced, RAID has been marked clean. What else needs to
be written back?

 We always did it this way is not a fix for a problem. The race is
 real, and should be fixed properly.
Sure, when/if somebody feels this is important enough to rewrite all
of the UPS drivers.  In the mean time, future Fedoras should work at
least as well as F14 does.
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Re: And logging issues following F15B upgrade

2011-05-15 Thread Philip Prindeville
On 5/15/11 4:33 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 On Sat, 14.05.11 12:01, Philip A. Prindeville 
 (philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com) wrote:
 
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.097131] sendmail[2179]: p4DH6ui4002179: 
 Milter delete (noop): header: X-Spam-Score
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.105238] sendmail[2179]: p4DH6ui4002179: 
 Milter add: header: X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.72 on 192.168.1.3
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.115242] lmtpunix[2176]: accepted 
 connection
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.119932] lmtpunix[2176]: lmtp connection 
 preauth'd as postman
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.884189] lmtpunix[2176]: skiplist: 
 checkpointed /var/lib/imap/user/p/philipp.seen (387 records, 116172 bytes) 
 in 0 seconds
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  133.895967] lmtpunix[2176]: seen_db: user 
 philipp opened /var/lib/imap/user/p/philipp.seen
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  188.010336] master[1892]: process 2170 
 exited, status 0
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  188.016042] master[2204]: about to exec 
 /usr/lib/cyrus-imapd/lmtpd
 May 13 11:08:02 mail kernel: [  188.022558] lmtpunix[2204]: executed

 so it looks like mail messages are being relogged as kernel messages  
 What's going on?
 
 systemd provides logging from  beginning of userspace on. As long as
 syslog isn't up this will go to kmsg. As soon as rsyslog is up the
 kernel log buffer will be fliushed to disk and all following messages go
 directly to disk with no involvement of kmsg.
 
 In F16 and later you'll be able to use dmesg -k to get the usual dmesg
 output but with all non-kernel messages removed.
 
 Note that dmesg never has been about kernel messages only. Low-level
 userspace system components logged to kmsg already. All we added is that
 during early boot /dev/log logging ends up in kmsg.
 
 Lennart

Ok, then I'm unclear.  Should rsyslog be running?

Because chkconfig rsyslog --list doesn't show any information, and it doesn't 
seem to be running after reboot.

Doing:

# chkconfig rsyslog --add
# chkconfig rsyslog on

doesn't seem to do anything.  Shouldn't it be on by default?

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Re: And logging issues following F15B upgrade

2011-05-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 15.05.11 13:08, Philip Prindeville (philipp_s...@redfish-solutions.com) 
wrote:

  Lennart
 
 Ok, then I'm unclear.  Should rsyslog be running?
 
 Because chkconfig rsyslog --list doesn't show any information, and
 it doesn't seem to be running after reboot.

The output this command generates should point you to the fact that the
--list command is not supported on systemd:

snip
Note: This output shows SysV services only and does not include native
  systemd services. SysV configuration data might be overridden by
  native
  systemd configuration.
/snip

 # chkconfig rsyslog --add
 # chkconfig rsyslog on
 
 doesn't seem to do anything.  Shouldn't it be on by default?

Yes, it should be on by default.

systemctl enable rsyslog.service or chkconfig rsyslog on should
ensure that.

When upgrading at the wrong time the conversion from sysv to systemd
might not work properly and the service is not enabled after the
upgrade. This should not be a problem however in the final release of
F15.

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Re: Orphaned python-alsa

2011-05-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
Without doing any research (since it's Sunday and I'm tired) does this 
mean it is no longer needed, or that you won't be maintaining it and 
someone else probably should if they're so inclined?

-J

On 05/15/2011 02:33 AM, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
 Not required by any package other than alsa-tools.


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F-15 Branched report: 20110515 changes

2011-05-15 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Sun May 15 13:15:23 UTC 2011

Broken deps for x86_64
--
db4o-7.4-2.fc13.x86_64 requires mono(Mono.GetOptions) = 0:2.0.0.0
dh-make-0.55-3.fc15.noarch requires debhelper
file-browser-applet-0.6.6-1.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
glunarclock-0.34.1-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-bubblemon-2.0.15-1.fc13.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-cpufire-1.6-3.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-globalmenu-0.7.9-1.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-grandr-0.4.1-2.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-music-2.5.1-5.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-sensors-2.2.7-4.fc15.i686 requires libpanel-applet-2.so.0
gnome-applet-sensors-2.2.7-4.fc15.x86_64 requires 
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gnome-applet-sshmenu-3.18-3.fc15.noarch requires ruby(panelapplet2)
gnome-applet-window-picker-0.5.8-2.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
1:gnome-applets-2.32.0-3.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-3.so.0()(64bit)
1:gnome-applets-2.32.0-3.fc15.x86_64 requires 
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1:gnome-applets-2.32.0-3.fc15.x86_64 requires libgweather.so.1()(64bit)
gnome-netstatus-2.28.2-1.fc15.x86_64 requires 
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gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires 
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gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libgpilotdcm.so.4()(64bit)
gnome-pilot-conduits-2.32.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libgpilotdconduit.so.3()(64bit)
gnome-python2-applet-2.32.0-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-python2-brasero-2.32.0-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libbrasero-media.so.1()(64bit)
gnome-python2-brasero-2.32.0-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libbrasero-burn.so.1()(64bit)
gnome-python2-evince-2.32.0-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
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gnome-python2-evince-2.32.0-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libevdocument.so.3()(64bit)
gnome-python2-evolution-2.32.0-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libcamel-1.2.so.19()(64bit)
gnome-python2-gdl-2.25.3-22.fc15.x86_64 requires libgdl-1.so.3()(64bit)
gnome-python2-totem-2.32.0-1.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libgnome-media-profiles.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-rdp-0.2.3-6.fc12.x86_64 requires mono(Mono.Data.SqliteClient) = 
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gnustep-back-0.18.0-4.fc14.x86_64 requires libobjc.so.2()(64bit)
gnustep-back-0.18.0-4.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libgnustep-base.so.1.20()(64bit)
gnustep-examples-1.3.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libgnustep-base.so.1.20()(64bit)
gnustep-examples-1.3.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libobjc.so.2()(64bit)
gnustep-gui-0.18.0-2.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libgnustep-base.so.1.20()(64bit)
gnustep-gui-0.18.0-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libobjc.so.2()(64bit)
gnustep-gui-libs-0.18.0-2.fc14.i686 requires libobjc.so.2
gnustep-gui-libs-0.18.0-2.fc14.i686 requires libgnustep-base.so.1.20
gnustep-gui-libs-0.18.0-2.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libgnustep-base.so.1.20()(64bit)
gnustep-gui-libs-0.18.0-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libobjc.so.2()(64bit)
gold-2.1.12.2-5.fc15.noarch requires perl(Data::Properties)
gorm-1.2.12-2.fc15.i686 requires libobjc.so.2
gorm-1.2.12-2.fc15.i686 requires libgnustep-base.so.1.20
gorm-1.2.12-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libgnustep-base.so.1.20()(64bit)
gorm-1.2.12-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libobjc.so.2()(64bit)
gpx-viewer-0.2.0-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libchamplain-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
gpx-viewer-0.2.0-3.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libchamplain-gtk-0.6.so.0()(64bit)
gpx-viewer-0.2.0-3.fc14.x86_64 requires libgdl-1.so.3()(64bit)
gyachi-plugin-libnotify-1.2.10-3.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libnotify.so.1()(64bit)
honeyd-1.5c-13.fc15.x86_64 requires libevent-1.4.so.2()(64bit)
intellij-idea-9.0.1.94.399-12.fc15.x86_64 requires commons-collections
libopenvrml-0.18.6-4.fc14.1.i686 requires libboost_thread-mt.so.1.44.0
libopenvrml-0.18.6-4.fc14.1.i686 requires 
libboost_filesystem-mt.so.1.44.0
libopenvrml-0.18.6-4.fc14.1.x86_64 requires 
libboost_filesystem-mt.so.1.44.0()(64bit)
libopenvrml-0.18.6-4.fc14.1.x86_64 requires 
libboost_thread-mt.so.1.44.0()(64bit)
libopenvrml-gl-0.18.6-4.fc14.1.i686 requires 
libboost_thread-mt.so.1.44.0
libopenvrml-gl-0.18.6-4.fc14.1.i686 requires 
libboost_filesystem-mt.so.1.44.0
libopenvrml-gl-0.18.6-4.fc14.1.x86_64 requires 
libboost_filesystem-mt.so.1.44.0()(64bit)
  

How to build noarch package on only certain architectures?

2011-05-15 Thread Eric Smith
I'm trying to build Clapham for EPEL6.  Clapham is a noarch package, but 
it depends on Batik, which is ExclusiveArch: i686 x86_64.  When I 
submitted a build with koji, it failed to build for ppc and ppc64 due to 
the missing dependency.

I tried adding the same ExclusiveArch to Clapham.  That causes errors 
from rpm and koji.

Now I've tried adding ExcludeArch: ppc ppc64 s390 s390x.  Koji still 
tries to build it for ppc64, and it still fails due to the missing 
dependency.

Is there some other way to add a noarch package that doesn't build on 
some architectures?

Thanks,
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Review Request/Review Swaps Request for writetype, pyttsx, python-timelib

2011-05-15 Thread Prabin Kumar Datta
Hi!
Currently, more then 3 of my packages are under review request.
And 4+ packages are already packaged but not submitted for review
since the dependency packages are not reviewed till now (or some other
issues).

My packages under review:
1. python-timelib [1] - This package is one the dependency package of
python-mwlib-0.12.14
2. pyttsx [2] - This package is a dependency package of writetype
3. writetype [3]

-
[1]. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704445
[2]. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=702998
[3]. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=698362


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Re: Orphaned python-alsa

2011-05-15 Thread Robin 'cheese' Lee
I just means anybody who would like to take this package should
recognize that it is such a minor package that few people would ever
install it.

Robin

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:14 AM, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote:
 Without doing any research (since it's Sunday and I'm tired) does this
 mean it is no longer needed, or that you won't be maintaining it and
 someone else probably should if they're so inclined?

 -J

 On 05/15/2011 02:33 AM, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
 Not required by any package other than alsa-tools.


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File Bucardo-4.4.4.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by itamarjp

2011-05-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for bucardo:

41493ace4e81ae4587250ff59dc4e911  Bucardo-4.4.4.tar.gz
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[bucardo] - new version 4.4.4

2011-05-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
commit 8ae56a4d5789908c173db91d5bce4e61a9f8585f
Author: Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br
Date:   Sun May 15 13:15:16 2011 -0300

- new version 4.4.4

 .gitignore   |1 +
 bucardo.spec |5 -
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 0836210..6097f4a 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
 Bucardo-4.4.0.tar.gz
 /Bucardo-4.4.3.tar.gz
+/Bucardo-4.4.4.tar.gz
diff --git a/bucardo.spec b/bucardo.spec
index 681af40..58ab6f1 100644
--- a/bucardo.spec
+++ b/bucardo.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 %define realname Bucardo
 Name:   bucardo
-Version:4.4.3
+Version:4.4.4
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Postgres replication system for both multi-master and 
multi-slave operations
 
@@ -92,6 +92,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %dir %{_localstatedir}/run/bucardo
 
 %changelog
+* Sun May 15 2011 Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br - 4.4.4-1
+- New version 4.4.4 fix backslash bug
+
 * Thu Apr 21 2011 Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br - 4.4.3-1
 - New version 4.4.3
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 13aa2c4..b993030 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-bd15d99de987ccb0b9fa5050e208e061  Bucardo-4.4.3.tar.gz
+41493ace4e81ae4587250ff59dc4e911  Bucardo-4.4.4.tar.gz
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[bucardo/f15] - new version 4.4.4

2011-05-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
Summary of changes:

  8ae56a4... - new version 4.4.4 (*)

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[bucardo/f13] (2 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' into f13

2011-05-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
Summary of changes:

  8ae56a4... - new version 4.4.4 (*)
  19bda46... Merge branch 'master' into f13

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[bucardo/f13: 2/2] Merge branch 'master' into f13

2011-05-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
commit 19bda469f861fcfabf739ac25d76d288395a29d0
Merge: 722709b 8ae56a4
Author: Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br
Date:   Sun May 15 13:41:42 2011 -0300

Merge branch 'master' into f13

Conflicts:
.gitignore

 .gitignore   |3 +++
 bucardo.spec |5 -
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
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[bucardo/el6] (2 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' into el6

2011-05-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
Summary of changes:

  8ae56a4... - new version 4.4.4 (*)
  4a5577a... Merge branch 'master' into el6

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[bucardo/el6: 2/2] Merge branch 'master' into el6

2011-05-15 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
commit 4a5577a564a0f427a4562607c7273eeb08c29dcd
Merge: 19ec8f6 8ae56a4
Author: Itamar Reis Peixoto ita...@ispbrasil.com.br
Date:   Sun May 15 13:49:22 2011 -0300

Merge branch 'master' into el6

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 bucardo.spec |5 -
 sources  |2 +-
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File File-Slurp-9999.18.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by corsepiu

2011-05-15 Thread corsepiu
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-File-Slurp:

400983e739aea5677c3a7e8cb2c23de0  File-Slurp-.18.tar.gz
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[perl-File-Slurp] Upstream update.

2011-05-15 Thread corsepiu
commit b6300f1e842fd2813e1602d747db57de7ae6
Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org
Date:   Mon May 16 05:48:33 2011 +0200

Upstream update.

 .gitignore   |1 +
 perl-File-Slurp.spec |5 -
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 36785b6..f7e1924 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,3 +1,4 @@
 File-Slurp-.13.tar.gz
 /File-Slurp-.15.tar.gz
 /File-Slurp-.16.tar.gz
+/File-Slurp-.18.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-File-Slurp.spec b/perl-File-Slurp.spec
index 178340f..52d4ff0 100644
--- a/perl-File-Slurp.spec
+++ b/perl-File-Slurp.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:  perl-File-Slurp
-Version:   .16
+Version:   .18
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Efficient Reading/Writing of Complete Files
 License:   GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -54,6 +54,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Sun May 15 2011 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - .18-1
+- Upstream update.
+
 * Thu Apr 28 2011 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - .16-1
 - Upstream update.
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 143a0a9..785bafa 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1df4c6ecae308cf41bf1eb91657d87f7  File-Slurp-.16.tar.gz
+400983e739aea5677c3a7e8cb2c23de0  File-Slurp-.18.tar.gz
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[perl-File-Slurp/f15] Upstream update.

2011-05-15 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes:

  b6300f1... Upstream update. (*)

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[perl-File-Slurp/f14] (2 commits) ...Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into f14

2011-05-15 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes:

  b6300f1... Upstream update. (*)
  2f5b9d4... Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into f14

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[perl-File-Slurp/f14: 2/2] Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into f14

2011-05-15 Thread corsepiu
commit 2f5b9d42b7eb78b4cd182fa6a9f2e730dd830210
Merge: 3bf6ef6 b6300f1
Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org
Date:   Mon May 16 06:38:33 2011 +0200

Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into f14

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 perl-File-Slurp.spec |5 -
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[perl-File-Slurp/f13] (2 commits) ...Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into f13

2011-05-15 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes:

  b6300f1... Upstream update. (*)
  8a2786a... Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into f13

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[perl-File-Slurp/f13: 2/2] Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into f13

2011-05-15 Thread corsepiu
commit 8a2786abadafd99d09e3f0541c7f7376664386f6
Merge: 751485d b6300f1
Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org
Date:   Mon May 16 06:58:55 2011 +0200

Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/master' into f13

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