Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-19 Thread Christopher Meng
Hi TIll,

The maintainer of package

python-pylons

is a zombie.

I just realized that I'm on CC list but not co.

I'd like to take it.

Thanks.
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Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-19 Thread Frankie Onuonga


On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 11:42 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> Where is your package? 
I do not have one.
I am hoping to assist in packaging if required.

thank you.
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Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-19 Thread Christopher Meng
Where is your package?
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Self Introduction

2013-08-19 Thread Frankie Onuonga


Hi guys,

Following the set of guidelines provided at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Install_the_client_tools_.28Koji.29_and_set_up_your_certificate

I would like to introduce myself.

My names are Onuonga Frankie.

my page on the fedora system is
:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Onuonga

I am in my final year at the university.
I am taking a bachelors in computer science and mathematics.
My major is advanced computer architecture which involves: signal
processing, systems programming, parallel programming, simulation and
modeling.


I am joining the list to assist in packaging.
I do not have any specific one yet but would like to get my hands
dirty with what I am given.

my Key fingerprint is :DAA5 8A30 CDF7 E90A 52C2  AF87 3D95 6592 7DB5
43E6


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Re: Mass Rebuild botched up my EVR

2013-08-19 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:29:08 -0400 (EDT)
Paul Wouters  wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just noticed the mass rebuild on Aug 3 botched up my EVR for
> libreswan:
> 
> Release: %{?prever:0.}1%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}.1
> 
> It should have been:
> 
> Release: %{?prever:0.}2%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}
> 
> The previous version was:
> 
> Release: %{?prever:0.}1%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}
> 
> How can we prevent this from happening again?

rpmdev-bumpspec is the tool that is used to bump the spec files for
mass rebuild. your use of macros in the release is a bit odd and likely
confused it. I suggest you keep it simple.

Dennis
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Re: Mass Rebuild botched up my EVR

2013-08-19 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 19:29 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just noticed the mass rebuild on Aug 3 botched up my EVR for
> libreswan:
> 
> Release: %{?prever:0.}1%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}.1
> 
> It should have been:
> 
> Release: %{?prever:0.}2%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}
> 
> The previous version was:
> 
> Release: %{?prever:0.}1%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}
> 
> How can we prevent this from happening again?
> 
> Paul

If this isn't expected behaviour, I'd suggest filing a bug against
rpmdevtools which contains the rpmdev-bumpspec tool. I think this is
used in the mass rebuilds script. 
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Retiring and blocking the following mate packages

2013-08-19 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi. These packages were obsoleted in MATE 1.6 along with the migration
to gsettings.

libmate
libmateui
libmatecanvas
libmatecomponent
libatecomponentui
libmatenotify
mate-conf (compiz no longer relies on mate-conf)
mate-conf-editor
mate-doc-utils (to be retired in F21 with MATE 1.8)
mate-keyring (to be retired in F21 with MATE 1.8 and will use gnome-keyring)
mate-mime-data
mate-vfs

Regarding mate-bluetooth we may take Kalev's advice and just create an
applet or use the XFC E applet which is currently still premature.

I have my own opinions on what should be done besides what I've
already stated the main one.

Just FYI

Thanks,
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-19 Thread Christopher Meng
Don't retire my package, I have no time to fix them in this week, will
check them at least from next Monday.
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Mass Rebuild botched up my EVR

2013-08-19 Thread Paul Wouters


Hi,

I just noticed the mass rebuild on Aug 3 botched up my EVR for
libreswan:

Release: %{?prever:0.}1%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}.1

It should have been:

Release: %{?prever:0.}2%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}

The previous version was:

Release: %{?prever:0.}1%{?prever:.%{prever}}%{?dist}

How can we prevent this from happening again?

Paul
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Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-19 Thread Bastien Nocera
The whole reason why the bluez5 package was proposed as a separate one was so 
that we didn't have to cater for every desktop under the sun that's included in 
Fedora.

bluez5 would conflict with bluez. If you had both MATE and GNOME installed, you 
wouldn't be able to upgrade to the latest version of GNOME as it would require 
bluez5 and the installed MATE bluez (4.x). That was the main idea, and would 
have avoided breaking all the desktops.

At the end of the day, if somebody pushes bluez 5.x in the old bluez package, 
and it ends up breaking other things, I'm fine with it as well. Other desktops 
will need to follow up and make sure they get the porting in updates or admit 
that they don't have the manpower to keep up with that particular feature.

- Original Message -
> Am Tue, 13 Aug 2013 08:34:53 +
> schrieb devel-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org:
> 
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 01:03:20 +0200
> > From: Kalev Lember 
> > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> > Subject: Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.
> > Message-ID: <520969b8.1030...@gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > 
> > On 08/02/2013 10:15 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> > > Let me know - I'd like to have this one as a Change if it's going to F20
> > 
> > I have been coordinating with various people and looks like all teams
> > are go. NetworkManager and PulseAudio changes are slightly lagging
> > behind, but it's probably best if we move forward and try to integrate
> > everything together in Rawhide before branching F20.
> > 
> > I've cleaned up the feature page and marked it as ready for wrangler:
> > 
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Bluez5
> > 
> > Sorry it's coming so late -- I didn't feel comfortable submitting it
> > earlier knowing how much of the upstream development was still in flux.
> > 
> mate-bluetooth doesn't support bluez5, and upstream doesn't have started to
> port it.
> I don't expect that is is ready before f20 alpha or beata.
> So it would be very nice not to push bluez5 into f20.
> Also Cristofph Wickert asked me to clean up runtime dependencies for
> mate-bluetooth to avoid that xfce/lxde user don't have to be install to many
> mate packages if they want to use mate-bluetooth.
> It seems there is a plan that xfce/lxde also want to be use mate-bluetooth.
> (maybe)
> 
> So f21 is Ok as goal, but f20 is definitely to early for mate.
> 
> Thank you
> Wolfgang
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Re: A closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Paul Wouters

On Tue, 20 Aug 2013, Michael Schwendt wrote:


For openswan, the openswan-doc subpackage is not obsoleted, just the
base package is.

 # repoquery --whatobsoletes openswan
 libreswan-0:3.3-1.fc19.x86_64

That's strange, because openswan is a dead.package. :-/


I'll fix that.

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Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-19 Thread Lars Seipel
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 09:48:46PM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote:
> Instead of shipping it, is there a problem with giving it to those on
> the developer list and letting us iron out the kinks?

Sure, that's what already happens. If you want to help, this thread
contains a multitude of pointers where to start.

Lars
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[389-devel] Please review: Ticket #47486 compiler warnings in adminutil, admin, dsgw

2013-08-19 Thread Rich Megginson


https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47486/0002-fix-compiler-warnings.patch

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47486/0002-fix-compiler-warnings.2.patch

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47486/0002-fix-compiler-warnings.3.patch
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[389-devel] Please review: Ticket #47486 compiler warnings in adminutil, admin, dsgw

2013-08-19 Thread Rich Megginson


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Re: A closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 12:17:50AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:

>   # repoquery --whatobsoletes openswan
>   libreswan-0:3.3-1.fc19.x86_64
> 
> That's strange, because openswan is a dead.package. :-/

FYI: openswan is now blocked for Fedora 20.

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A closer look: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
Comments at the bottom. First the src.rpms in Rawhide, which are
completely obsolete because all built binary rpms are obsoleted.
Those should get retired properly:


All builds obsoleted:
-
chktex
classads
detex
drupal6-drush
ff-utils
gpp4
ibus-table-array30
jadetex
jaxen-bootstrap
joystick
kdirstat
latexdiff
mate-conf
mate-conf-editor
metapost-metauml
nss-myhostname
pdfbook
pdfjam
ps2eps
python-cryptsetup
python-lvm
python-quantumclient
rdate
seahorse-plugins
tetex-IEEEtran
xmltex
zeitgeist-datahub


Only obsolete subpackage(s):

lzma ['lzma'] 2 left
openswan ['openswan'] 1 left
ruby-gnome2 ['ruby-gtksourceview2', 'ruby-gtksourceview2-devel'] 24 left
yum-utils ['yum-plugin-security'] 27 left


In this second list, the obsolete binary rpm names are in brackets, and
the number of remaining subpackage rpms is appended.

  # repoquery --whatobsoletes lzma
  xz-lzma-compat-0:5.1.2-4alpha.fc19.x86_64

The lzma-libs and lzma-devel subpackages are not obsoleted, just the
base package is.  Package "scotch" is the only one that depends on
lzma-libs.

For openswan, the openswan-doc subpackage is not obsoleted, just the
base package is.

  # repoquery --whatobsoletes openswan
  libreswan-0:3.3-1.fc19.x86_64

That's strange, because openswan is a dead.package. :-/
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:51:34PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

> No they can't, the sync of blocked/new packages is synced over all
> secondary arches. They could likely be untagged so they don't show up in
> the list.

Tagging is also synced, therefore it is more complicated. There is now a
ticket for this:
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5729
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:41 PM, Till Maas  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:21:38PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote:
> > On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 23:05:32 +0200
> > Till Maas  wrote:
> >
> > > The following packages did not build for two releases and will be
> > > retired around 2013-08-26 unless someone rebuilds them or announces to
> > > actively working on fixing them.
> > >
> > > Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the
> > > affected packages or a package that depends on one.
> > >
> > > Package(co)maintainers
> > >
> ===
> > > libvpdemunson, hegdevasant, fkocina, lnykryn,
> > > rrakus, jskala
> > > lsvpd emunson, hegdevasant, fkocina, lnykryn,
> > > wolfy, rrakus, jskala
> >
> > these 2 are ppc/ppc64 specific and actively maintained, so they should
> > be whitelisted, because they won't have new builds in primary koji
>
> There is no whitelist, but they could be blocked in primary koji I
> guess.
>

No they can't, the sync of blocked/new packages is synced over all
secondary arches. They could likely be untagged so they don't show up in
the list.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:21:38PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 23:05:32 +0200
> Till Maas  wrote:
> 
> > The following packages did not build for two releases and will be
> > retired around 2013-08-26 unless someone rebuilds them or announces to
> > actively working on fixing them.
> > 
> > Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the
> > affected packages or a package that depends on one.
> > 
> > Package(co)maintainers
> > ===
> > libvpdemunson, hegdevasant, fkocina, lnykryn,
> > rrakus, jskala
> > lsvpd emunson, hegdevasant, fkocina, lnykryn,
> > wolfy, rrakus, jskala
> 
> these 2 are ppc/ppc64 specific and actively maintained, so they should
> be whitelisted, because they won't have new builds in primary koji

There is no whitelist, but they could be blocked in primary koji I
guess.

Regards
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[389-devel] Please review: Ticket #47403 DSGW authentication issue

2013-08-19 Thread Rich Megginson

https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47403/0001-Ticket-47403-DSGW-authentication-issue.patch
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 20 v2

2013-08-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Till Maas  wrote:

> The following packages have been retired:
>
> alsa-oss
> firmware-extract
> firstboot
> gkrellm-timestamp
> guiloader
> justmoon
> lybniz
> mars-sim
> miau
> openstack-tempo
> osgal
> python3-cherrypy
> vblade
>
> Because alsa-oss was retired, mumble needs to be rebuild without OSS
> support (just removing the BR failed in a scratch build because
> libspeechd.h cannot be found, maybe this is an unrelated bug)
>

I've fixed the issue with building mumble and I'll be pushing the fix to
rawhide shortly.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-19 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 23:05:32 +0200
Till Maas  wrote:

> The following packages did not build for two releases and will be
> retired around 2013-08-26 unless someone rebuilds them or announces to
> actively working on fixing them.
> 
> Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the
> affected packages or a package that depends on one.
> 
> Package(co)maintainers
> ===
> libvpdemunson, hegdevasant, fkocina, lnykryn,
> rrakus, jskala
> lsvpd emunson, hegdevasant, fkocina, lnykryn,
> wolfy, rrakus, jskala

these 2 are ppc/ppc64 specific and actively maintained, so they should
be whitelisted, because they won't have new builds in primary koji


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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:45:09 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:

> > yum-utils
> >
> 
> I don't think yum-utils should be on that list given that it appears to be
> actively maintained and not obsoleted.

All these src.rpms build _something_ that is obsoleted by something else.

For yum-utils, it's the yum-plugin-security subpackage, which is
obsoleted by yum.

The closer look at it: yum obsoletes yum-plugin-security < 1.1.32
with yum-utils being at 1.1.31. If yum-utils were bumped to 1.1.32,
the Obsoletes would not be high enough anymore, and yum-plugin-security
would become installable again.

Certainly something that's not right.
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[ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring long-term FTBFS packages for Fedora 20

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
The following packages did not build for two releases and will be
retired around 2013-08-26 unless someone rebuilds them or announces to
actively working on fixing them.

Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected
packages or a package that depends on one.

Package(co)maintainers
===
curry gemi, oliver
eclipse-phpeclipsembooth, swagiaal
libgarmin fab
libvpdemunson, hegdevasant, fkocina, lnykryn, rrakus,
  jskala
lsvpd emunson, hegdevasant, fkocina, lnykryn, wolfy,
  rrakus, jskala
mod_mono  chkr
nautilus-sendto-trac  mbooth
open-cobols4504kr
petitboot dwmw2, tbreeds, jwboyer
python-pylons kylev, cicku
simulavr  ndim
smart athimm, scop
synce-connector   awjb
tango-icon-theme  cwickert
tango-icon-theme-extras   cwickert

The following packages require above mentioned FTBS packages:
Depending on: python-pylons
python-repoze-what-pylons (maintained by: spot, lmacken)
python-repoze-what-pylons requires python-pylons = 1.0-4.fc17


Depending on: smart
PackageKit (maintained by: rhughes, rdieter, stefw, jcm, rnorwood, 
lmacken, rhughes, timlau, tuxbrewr)
PackageKit-smart requires smart = 1.3.1-68.fc17

fedora-package-config-smart (maintained by: athimm, scop)
fedora-package-config-smart requires smart = 1.3.1-68.fc17


Depending on: synce-connector
synce-gnome (maintained by: awjb)
synce-gnome requires odccm = 0.15.2-5.fc17

synce-kpm (maintained by: awjb)
synce-kpm requires odccm = 0.15.2-5.fc17


Depending on: tango-icon-theme
gnome-theme-curvylooks (maintained by: pgordon)
gnome-theme-curvylooks requires tango-icon-theme = 0.8.90-6.fc17



Affected (co)maintainers
athimm: smart
awjb: synce-connector
chkr: mod_mono
cicku: python-pylons
cwickert: tango-icon-theme-extras, tango-icon-theme
dwmw2: petitboot
emunson: lsvpd, libvpd
fab: libgarmin
fkocina: lsvpd, libvpd
gemi: curry
hegdevasant: lsvpd, libvpd
jcm: smart
jskala: lsvpd, libvpd
jwboyer: petitboot
kylev: python-pylons
lmacken: python-pylons, smart
lnykryn: lsvpd, libvpd
mbooth: nautilus-sendto-trac, eclipse-phpeclipse
ndim: simulavr
oliver: curry
pgordon: tango-icon-theme
rdieter: smart
rhughes: smart
rnorwood: smart
rrakus: lsvpd, libvpd
s4504kr: open-cobol
scop: smart
spot: python-pylons
stefw: smart
swagiaal: eclipse-phpeclipse
tbreeds: petitboot
timlau: smart
tuxbrewr: smart
wolfy: lsvpd


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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Peter Robinson
> yum-utils
>

I don't think yum-utils should be on that list given that it appears to be
actively maintained and not obsoleted.

Peter



> zeitgeist-datahub
>
> [...]
>
> chktex-1.6.4-12.fc19.src.rpm
> classads-1.0.8-7.fc20.src.rpm
> detex-2.8-6.fc20.src.rpm
> drupal6-drush-4.1-7.fc20.src.rpm
> ff-utils-2.4.21-7.fc19.src.rpm
> gpp4-1.3.1-5.fc20.src.rpm
> ibus-table-array30-1.2.0.20090729-6.fc20.src.rpm
> jadetex-3.13-14.fc19.src.rpm
> jaxen-bootstrap-1.1-8.2.fc20.src.rpm
> joystick-1.2.15-30.fc20.src.rpm
> kdirstat-2.5.3-17.fc20.src.rpm
> latexdiff-1.0.2-4.fc20.src.rpm
> lzma-4.32.7-10.fc20.src.rpm
> mate-conf-1.4.0-23.fc20.src.rpm
> mate-conf-editor-1.4.0-3.fc19.src.rpm
> metapost-metauml-0.2.5-12.fc20.src.rpm
> nss-myhostname-0.3-5.fc20.src.rpm
> openswan-2.6.38-11.fc19.src.rpm
> pdfbook-20070930-10.fc20.src.rpm
> pdfjam-2.08-4.fc18.src.rpm
> ps2eps-1.68-7.fc20.src.rpm
> python-cryptsetup-0.1.4-6.fc20.src.rpm
> python-lvm-1.9.2-3.fc20.src.rpm
> python-quantumclient-2.2.1-4.fc20.src.rpm
> rdate-1.4-24.fc20.src.rpm
> ruby-gnome2-0.90.4-2.fc20.1.src.rpm
> seahorse-plugins-2.91.6-0.5.git1e35fd9.fc18.src.rpm
> tetex-IEEEtran-1.7.1-8.fc20.src.rpm
> xmltex-20020625-21.fc20.src.rpm
> yum-utils-1.1.31-17.fc20.src.rpm
> zeitgeist-datahub-0.9.5-3.fc20.src.rpm
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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:30:03 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:

> > If there are no objections, I can just retire all of them.

Okay, I object!

Some of them are sub-packages. Obsolete, but still being built!
For example, yum-plugin-security from yum-utils, obsoleted by yum.

That's really odd.
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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
> If there are no objections, I can just retire all of them.

The src.rpm names:

chktex
classads
detex
drupal6-drush
ff-utils
gpp4
ibus-table-array30
jadetex
jaxen-bootstrap
joystick
kdirstat
latexdiff
lzma
mate-conf
mate-conf-editor
metapost-metauml
nss-myhostname
openswan
pdfbook
pdfjam
ps2eps
python-cryptsetup
python-lvm
python-quantumclient
rdate
ruby-gnome2
seahorse-plugins
tetex-IEEEtran
xmltex
yum-utils
zeitgeist-datahub

[...]

chktex-1.6.4-12.fc19.src.rpm
classads-1.0.8-7.fc20.src.rpm
detex-2.8-6.fc20.src.rpm
drupal6-drush-4.1-7.fc20.src.rpm
ff-utils-2.4.21-7.fc19.src.rpm
gpp4-1.3.1-5.fc20.src.rpm
ibus-table-array30-1.2.0.20090729-6.fc20.src.rpm
jadetex-3.13-14.fc19.src.rpm
jaxen-bootstrap-1.1-8.2.fc20.src.rpm
joystick-1.2.15-30.fc20.src.rpm
kdirstat-2.5.3-17.fc20.src.rpm
latexdiff-1.0.2-4.fc20.src.rpm
lzma-4.32.7-10.fc20.src.rpm
mate-conf-1.4.0-23.fc20.src.rpm
mate-conf-editor-1.4.0-3.fc19.src.rpm
metapost-metauml-0.2.5-12.fc20.src.rpm
nss-myhostname-0.3-5.fc20.src.rpm
openswan-2.6.38-11.fc19.src.rpm
pdfbook-20070930-10.fc20.src.rpm
pdfjam-2.08-4.fc18.src.rpm
ps2eps-1.68-7.fc20.src.rpm
python-cryptsetup-0.1.4-6.fc20.src.rpm
python-lvm-1.9.2-3.fc20.src.rpm
python-quantumclient-2.2.1-4.fc20.src.rpm
rdate-1.4-24.fc20.src.rpm
ruby-gnome2-0.90.4-2.fc20.1.src.rpm
seahorse-plugins-2.91.6-0.5.git1e35fd9.fc18.src.rpm
tetex-IEEEtran-1.7.1-8.fc20.src.rpm
xmltex-20020625-21.fc20.src.rpm
yum-utils-1.1.31-17.fc20.src.rpm
zeitgeist-datahub-0.9.5-3.fc20.src.rpm
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Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-19 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 08/19/2013 01:48 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Ultimately if there's missing features you should communicate with the
> author of the patch as to why they're not upstream and then you'd not
> have to care about whether its built in or a module.

Heh.  I kind of doubt that the AHCI driver maintainers are interested in
adding hardware-specific LED triggers.

> Probably on the kernel list if anywhere, I vaguely remember reading
> about it.

Pointed to the discussion (back in 2008!) by a co-worker.  I didn't even
know that Fedora had its own kernel list.  (I wrongly assumed that this
change post-dated the RHEL 6 branch, since AHCI is still a module in
RHEL 6.)

Thanks for the info!

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 20 v2

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
The following packages have been retired:

alsa-oss
firmware-extract
firstboot
gkrellm-timestamp
guiloader
justmoon
lybniz
mars-sim
miau
openstack-tempo
osgal
python3-cherrypy
vblade

Because alsa-oss was retired, mumble needs to be rebuild without OSS
support (just removing the BR failed in a scratch build because
libspeechd.h cannot be found, maybe this is an unrelated bug)

modplugtools needs to be changed to not ship modplugplay anymore, but
modplug123 should still work.

I will soon post a follow-up message regarding FTBFS packages.

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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:34:52 +0200, Till Maas wrote:

> > > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/latexdiff
> > > 
> > > Let me rephrase: It is not orphaned/retired/deprecated in pkgdb and
> > > there is no dead.package in GIT and it is not blocked in koji.
> > 
> > Right, and yet it's obsoleted by texlive-latexdiff, so no one could
> > ever install it or use it. 
> > 
> > So, all the above steps should be done on it, or if there's some actual
> > reason it's useful, texlive-latexdiff would have to be modified to not
> > obsolete it so anyone could actually install or use it. 
> 
> Yes, I agree. But it is hard do deduct this from the original mail. :-)

Sorry, if we use completely different terminology. :-(

With "obsolete" I mean there's an RPM "Obsoletes" tag somewhere for the
package. With "retiring" I refer to the package EOL process (e.g. the fedpkg
command is "retire". My message also refers to that.
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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:44:02AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> A couple of obsolete packages is still included in Rawhide. Usually
> that means a package has not been retired yet or has been retired
> incompletely:
> 
>   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
> 
> In some cases, the dead package is only missing the koji block request
> in Fedora rel-eng trac. In other cases, the package has not even been
> marked a "dead.package" in git yet:

If there are no objections, I can just retire all of them.

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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 01:25:36PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:22:49 +0200
> Till Maas  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 07:55:26PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > On 19 Aug 2013 19:51, "Till Maas"  wrote:
> > 
> > > > How did you create the list? At least this one seems to be a false
> > > > positive, because it is not retired:
> > > 
> > > Isn't that what he says in the first sentence... Orphaned but not
> > > properly retired?
> > > 
> > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/latexdiff
> > 
> > Let me rephrase: It is not orphaned/retired/deprecated in pkgdb and
> > there is no dead.package in GIT and it is not blocked in koji.
> 
> Right, and yet it's obsoleted by texlive-latexdiff, so no one could
> ever install it or use it. 
> 
> So, all the above steps should be done on it, or if there's some actual
> reason it's useful, texlive-latexdiff would have to be modified to not
> obsolete it so anyone could actually install or use it. 

Yes, I agree. But it is hard do deduct this from the original mail. :-)

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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:22:49 +0200
Till Maas  wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 07:55:26PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On 19 Aug 2013 19:51, "Till Maas"  wrote:
> 
> > > How did you create the list? At least this one seems to be a false
> > > positive, because it is not retired:
> > 
> > Isn't that what he says in the first sentence... Orphaned but not
> > properly retired?
> > 
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/latexdiff
> 
> Let me rephrase: It is not orphaned/retired/deprecated in pkgdb and
> there is no dead.package in GIT and it is not blocked in koji.

Right, and yet it's obsoleted by texlive-latexdiff, so no one could
ever install it or use it. 

So, all the above steps should be done on it, or if there's some actual
reason it's useful, texlive-latexdiff would have to be modified to not
obsolete it so anyone could actually install or use it. 

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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 07:55:26PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2013 19:51, "Till Maas"  wrote:

> > How did you create the list? At least this one seems to be a false
> > positive, because it is not retired:
> 
> Isn't that what he says in the first sentence... Orphaned but not properly
> retired?
> 
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/latexdiff

Let me rephrase: It is not orphaned/retired/deprecated in pkgdb and there is no
dead.package in GIT and it is not blocked in koji.

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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On 19 Aug 2013 19:51, "Till Maas"  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:44:02AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > A couple of obsolete packages is still included in Rawhide. Usually
> > that means a package has not been retired yet or has been retired
> > incompletely:
> >
> >   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
> >
> > In some cases, the dead package is only missing the koji block request
> > in Fedora rel-eng trac. In other cases, the package has not even been
> > marked a "dead.package" in git yet:
>
> > Obsolete ('latexdiff', 'noarch', '0', '1.0.2', '4.fc20')
>
> How did you create the list? At least this one seems to be a false
> positive, because it is not retired:

Isn't that what he says in the first sentence... Orphaned but not properly
retired?

> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/latexdiff
>
> Regards
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Re: Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Till Maas
Hi,

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 10:44:02AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> A couple of obsolete packages is still included in Rawhide. Usually
> that means a package has not been retired yet or has been retired
> incompletely:
> 
>   https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
> 
> In some cases, the dead package is only missing the koji block request
> in Fedora rel-eng trac. In other cases, the package has not even been
> marked a "dead.package" in git yet:

> Obsolete ('latexdiff', 'noarch', '0', '1.0.2', '4.fc20')

How did you create the list? At least this one seems to be a false
positive, because it is not retired:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/latexdiff

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Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On 19 Aug 2013 19:40, "Ian Pilcher"  wrote:
>
> On 08/19/2013 01:19 PM, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> > because it's commonly used and found on basically every machine now.
> > there are many advantages to having it built in that outweigh the cons.
>
> A couple of questions:
>
> - What are the advantages of having the driver built-in, as compared to
>   simply ensuring that it's always included in the initramfs?

Easy support for the most commonly used options, things like the IP and the
Intel sata driver are built in as well for similar means.

Ultimately if there's missing features you should communicate with the
author of the patch as to why they're not upstream and then you'd not have
to care about whether its built in or a module.

> - Was this change discussed anywhere?

Probably on the kernel list if anywhere, I vaguely remember reading about
it.

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Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-19 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 01:35:16PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> On 08/19/2013 01:19 PM, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> > because it's commonly used and found on basically every machine now.
> > there are many advantages to having it built in that outweigh the cons.
> 
> A couple of questions:
> 
> - What are the advantages of having the driver built-in, as compared to
>   simply ensuring that it's always included in the initramfs?
> 

performance, you'll take fewer tlb misses.

> - Was this change discussed anywhere?
> 

among the fedora kernel team at plumbers conf in 2008.

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Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-19 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 08/19/2013 01:19 PM, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> because it's commonly used and found on basically every machine now.
> there are many advantages to having it built in that outweigh the cons.

A couple of questions:

- What are the advantages of having the driver built-in, as compared to
  simply ensuring that it's always included in the initramfs?

- Was this change discussed anywhere?

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Re: Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-19 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 01:16:03PM -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote:
> Somewhere along the line, the AHCI driver was changed from a module to
> being built-in to the kernel.  This is a major PITA for anyone who wants
> to use a different/customized version of this driver.  (I want to
> rebuild it with LED triggers for the disk LEDs on my NAS.)
> 
> I haven't been able to find anything in git or BZ about why this was
> done, probably because searching on "ahci" and "module" in Bugzilla
> isn't exactly productive.
> 

because it's commonly used and found on basically every machine now.
there are many advantages to having it built in that outweigh the cons.

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Why is AHCI built-in?

2013-08-19 Thread Ian Pilcher
Somewhere along the line, the AHCI driver was changed from a module to
being built-in to the kernel.  This is a major PITA for anyone who wants
to use a different/customized version of this driver.  (I want to
rebuild it with LED triggers for the disk LEDs on my NAS.)

I haven't been able to find anything in git or BZ about why this was
done, probably because searching on "ahci" and "module" in Bugzilla
isn't exactly productive.

Any pointers?

TIA

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Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-19 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 08:55:01AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Have you tried Bluetooth on our major desktop environments in F19? :P
> 
> (I kid, I kid, it mostly works well. But still, I have to pair my mouse
> every damn time I want to use it, for instance.)

  Oh, is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=716479 still the case? 

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Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 14:28 -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:

> It sounds like BlueZ5 is not ready for Fedora, betwen the "early alpha" XFCE 
> code, and shipping git BlueDevil, mate and cinnamon don't appear to work with 
> it ... 

We're not even at Alpha TC1 yet, remember. It's not unusual for stuff
roadmapped for F20 Final to be in a fairly early stage at this point.
(Plus what mclasen pointed out about only blocking on GNOME and KDE).

> Basically we ship Fedora 20 in a state where one only of our major desktop 
> environments supports bluetooth in a stable fashion? That seems kind of like 
> a 
> disaster waiting to happen.

Have you tried Bluetooth on our major desktop environments in F19? :P

(I kid, I kid, it mostly works well. But still, I have to pair my mouse
every damn time I want to use it, for instance.)
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Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-19 Thread Andreas Tunek
On 19/08/2013 4:31 PM, "Richard Vickery" 
wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Matthew Garrett 
wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 02:28:34PM -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:
> >
> >> Basically we ship Fedora 20 in a state where one only of our major
desktop
> >> environments supports bluetooth in a stable fashion? That seems kind
of like a
> >> disaster waiting to happen.
> >
> > The current release blocking desktops are Gnome and KDE. If those are
> > broken then F20 doesn't ship - if they're working, it ships. It'd be
> > unfortunate to ship a release that doesn't support the non-blocking
> > desktops, but (right now) it's fundamentally up to them to provide the
> > development effort to ensure that they have a full feature set.
> >
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> > --
>
> Instead of shipping it, is there a problem with giving it to those on
> the developer list and letting us iron out the kinks?
>

I do not really understand what you mean here

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Re: promoting to package co-maintainers?

2013-08-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:35:03 -0400
"Kaleb S. KEITHLEY"  wrote:

> 
> Flock is over. How about some action on my ticket?
> 
> Or reject the ticket and tell me why!

Sorry for the delay. 

I went and processed all the back packager-sponsor tickets. Looks like
mrunge already added those two folks to packager by the time I got
there tho. 

So, they should be in and can request acls, etc. 

Sorry again about the delay... 

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> Subject: promoting to package co-maintainers?
> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:31:13 -0400
> From: Kaleb S. KEITHLEY 
> To: Development discussions related to Fedora 
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> On 7 Aug I opened a trac ticket (as per 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group#Become_a_co-maintainer)
>  
> to request that two colleagues be
> promoted to the packager group so that I can grant them the commit ACL
> for the glusterfs package. They both work full time on GlusterFS.
> 
> I have not heard anything in response to the trac ticket and I'm
> curious about what the normal amount of time is for action a ticket
> like this.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: bug filed against "distribution"

2013-08-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.08.2013 16:37, schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
> On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 20:20:33 +0200
> Reindl Harald  wrote:
> 
>> because it happens *regulary* and not from time to time
>> and not depending on package/maintainer and that is
>> a wrong behavior which should be made clear insinde
>> the distribution
> 
> So, you are proposing a addition to the package maintainer
> responsibilities page?
> 
> (I am not sure this will "solve" the issue, but would give you
> somewhere to point people). 
> 
> Perhaps: 
> 
> "Try and solve bugs or issues for the release against which they were
> reported, or if that is impractical note to bug reporters why their bug
> cannot be fixed in that release" 
> 
> Thoughts?

sounds good!



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Re: BlueZ Status in Fedora.

2013-08-19 Thread Richard Vickery
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Matthew Garrett  wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 02:28:34PM -0700, Ryan Rix wrote:
>
>> Basically we ship Fedora 20 in a state where one only of our major desktop
>> environments supports bluetooth in a stable fashion? That seems kind of like 
>> a
>> disaster waiting to happen.
>
> The current release blocking desktops are Gnome and KDE. If those are
> broken then F20 doesn't ship - if they're working, it ships. It'd be
> unfortunate to ship a release that doesn't support the non-blocking
> desktops, but (right now) it's fundamentally up to them to provide the
> development effort to ensure that they have a full feature set.
>
> --
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Instead of shipping it, is there a problem with giving it to those on
the developer list and letting us iron out the kinks?

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Re: bug filed against "distribution"

2013-08-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 20:20:33 +0200
Reindl Harald  wrote:

> becuase it happens *regualary* and not from time to time
> and not depending on package/maintainer and that is
> a wron gbehavior which should be made clear insinde
> the distribution

So, you are proposing a addition to the package maintainer
responsibilities page?

(I am not sure this will "solve" the issue, but would give you
somewhere to point people). 

Perhaps: 

"Try and solve bugs or issues for the release against which they were
reported, or if that is impractical note to bug reporters why their bug
cannot be fixed in that release" 

Thoughts?

kevin




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[Owner-change] Fedora packages ownership change

2013-08-19 Thread nobody
Change in ownership over the last 168 hours
===

5 packages were orphaned

python-xklavier [EL-6] was orphaned by pbrobinson
 Python bindings for libxklavier
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/python-xklavier
vblade [EL-5,EL-6,devel,f18,f19] was orphaned by ausil
 Virtual EtherDrive (R) blade daemon
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/vblade
mikmod [EL-6] was orphaned by pbrobinson
 Music module player
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/mikmod
miau [EL-5,EL-6,devel,f18,f19] was orphaned by ausil
 Full-featured IRC bouncer
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/miau
alsa-oss [devel,f18,f19] was orphaned by ausil
 Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) wrapper for OSS
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/alsa-oss

44 packages unorphaned
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cicku   unorphaned : bwm-ng [EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
filiperossetunorphaned : clusterssh [devel,f18,f19]
jkastnerunorphaned : conserver [devel,f18,f19]
fab unorphaned : examiner [devel,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : aoetools [EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
jmlich  unorphaned : less [devel,f18,f19]
mbooth  unorphaned : XmlSchema [devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : graphviz [devel,f18,f19]
mmilata unorphaned : linuxdoc-tools [devel]
mizdebskunorphaned : joda-convert [devel,f18,f19]
gil unorphaned : apache-commons-ognl [devel]
frixxon unorphaned : drehatlas-warender-bibliothek-fonts [devel,f18]
cicku   unorphaned : ngrep [EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : jakarta-commons-httpclient [devel,f18,f19]
lkundrakunorphaned : dissy [devel,devel,devel]
mizdebskunorphaned : avalon-framework [devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : libdnet [EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : aopalliance [devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : scanssh [devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : derelict [devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : xom [devel,f18,f19]
mbooth  unorphaned : bluecove [devel,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : dayplanner [devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : txt2rss [devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : gl3n [devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : perl-X11-Protocol [EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : avalon-logkit [devel,f18,f19]
mbooth  unorphaned : java-uuid-generator [EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : apache-parent [devel,f18,f19]
vicodan unorphaned : libgnomecups [devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : bcel [devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : bsf [devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : xalan-j2 [devel,f18,f19]
dchen   unorphaned : zanata-python-client [EL-5,EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : libstatgrab [EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : rblcheck [devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : tagsoup [devel,f18,f19]
rdieter unorphaned : libpng12 [devel]
cicku   unorphaned : cal3d [EL-5,EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
cicku   unorphaned : httrack [devel,f18,f19]
cheeselee   unorphaned : banner [EL-5,EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
mbooth  unorphaned : derby [EL-5,EL-6,devel,f18,f19]
mbooth  unorphaned : ezmorph [devel,f18,f19]
mizdebskunorphaned : javassist [devel,f18,f19]

5 packages were retired

rhevsh [devel] was retired by mmahut
 A command-line interface to Red Hat Enterprise Virtualization
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/rhevsh
pypolicyd-spf [EL-5] was retired by bojan
 SPF Policy Server for Postfix (Python implementation)
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/pypolicyd-spf
jbossws-native [devel] was retired by goldmann
 JBossWS Native
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/jbossws-native
rdate [devel] was retired by hhorak
 Tool for getting the date/time from a remote machine
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/rdate
gpointing-device-settings [devel,f18,f19] was retired by vicodan
 Configuration tool for pointing devices
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/gpointing-device-settings

176 packages changed owner
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mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-Dancer [f18,f19]
mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-Test-Pod [f18,f19]
mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-Tie-Simple [f18,f19]
mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-XML-Dumper [f18,f19]
mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-Data-TreeDumper [f18,f19]
mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-Debug-Client [f18,f19]
mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-Module-Extract [f18,f19]
mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-Archive-Tar [f18,f19]
mmaslanogave to jplesnik   : perl-Test-Compile [f1

[Bug 998212] perl-Time-HiRes-1.9726 is available

2013-08-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998212

Petr Šabata  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Assignee|ppi...@redhat.com   |psab...@redhat.com



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Re: F20 Self Contained Change: Ruby on Rails 4.0

2013-08-19 Thread Josef Stribny
Hi,

I am happy to announce that Ruby on Rails 4.0 has landed in Fedora Rawhide[1].
If you have any packages that depends on Rails, it's a good time to test them.

Note: Some dependent RubyGems were updated afterwards to support the newest 
version of Rails[2], some not.

Regards
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[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_on_Rails_4.0
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_on_Rails_4.0#Dependencies
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Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 08/19/2013 02:25 PM, drago01 wrote:

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik  wrote:

- Original Message -

On 08/19/2013 01:32 PM, drago01 wrote:

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik 
wrote:

- Original Message -

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Hi all,

I have merged perl info f20 and started the mass rebuild.


Hi!
A friendly reminder - "Branch Fedora 20 from Rawhide" is planned
tomorrow (2013-08-20) and "Alpha Change Deadline" is also pretty soon
as Dennis pointed out (2013-09-03).

Please postpone this. IMO, this is much too early.

Also take into account what time of year it is: Summer Holidays (at
least in Europe).


Well,
the reason why it was scheduled so early (and already postponed by two
weeks) are other holidays - we have to avoid hitting December, when
everyone is on vacations :(. One week = Thanksgivings, two weeks =
Christmas...


But what has the branch date to do with the mass rebuild? I mean can't
people fix stuff after alpha (before beta) unless the package not
working is an alpha blocker?


After branching, new "features"/"breakdowns" will be introduced into 
rawhide causing further instabilities and FTBFSes to rawhide.


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Broken dependencies: perl-MIME-Lite-HTML

2013-08-19 Thread buildsys


perl-MIME-Lite-HTML has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.24-4.fc18.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
On i386:
perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.24-4.fc18.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
On armhfp:
perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-1.24-4.fc18.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Encode-JP-Mobile

2013-08-19 Thread buildsys


perl-Encode-JP-Mobile has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Encode-JP-Mobile-0.30-2.fc19.x86_64 requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On i386:
perl-Encode-JP-Mobile-0.30-2.fc19.i686 requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On armhfp:
perl-Encode-JP-Mobile-0.30-2.fc19.armv7hl requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
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Broken dependencies: slic3r

2013-08-19 Thread buildsys


slic3r has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3)
On i386:
slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3)
On armhfp:
slic3r-0.9.10b-2.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-ParseUtil-Domain

2013-08-19 Thread buildsys


perl-ParseUtil-Domain has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-ParseUtil-Domain-2.22-3.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On i386:
perl-ParseUtil-Domain-2.22-3.fc19.noarch requires 
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On armhfp:
perl-ParseUtil-Domain-2.22-3.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
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Broken dependencies: perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes

2013-08-19 Thread buildsys


perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.002-2.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On i386:
perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.002-2.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On armhfp:
perl-MooseX-TrackDirty-Attributes-2.002-2.fc19.noarch requires 
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Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 08/19/2013 02:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:

- Original Message -

On 08/19/2013 01:32 PM, drago01 wrote:

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik 
wrote:

- Original Message -

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Hi all,

I have merged perl info f20 and started the mass rebuild.


Hi!
A friendly reminder - "Branch Fedora 20 from Rawhide" is planned
tomorrow (2013-08-20) and "Alpha Change Deadline" is also pretty soon
as Dennis pointed out (2013-09-03).

Please postpone this. IMO, this is much too early.

Also take into account what time of year it is: Summer Holidays (at
least in Europe).


Well,
the reason why it was scheduled so early (and already postponed by two
weeks) are other holidays - we have to avoid hitting December, when
everyone is on vacations :(. One week = Thanksgivings, two weeks =
Christmas...
Well, ... many people are on vacation > 2 weeks around this time of year 
- probably most them in August ;)


... as I feel, this time, the changes introduced into Fedora were too 
ambitious with some of the having been introduced too late.
Notably the docdir changes, texinfo-5.x, perl-5.18 and the texlive mess 
(interestingly, the impact of the arm having been introduced is 
comparatively low)


As a consequence of this, I don't see an alternative to further postponing.


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Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread drago01
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik  wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> On 08/19/2013 01:32 PM, drago01 wrote:
>> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik 
>> > wrote:
>> >> - Original Message -
>> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> >>> Hash: SHA1
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I have merged perl info f20 and started the mass rebuild.
>> >>
>> >> Hi!
>> >> A friendly reminder - "Branch Fedora 20 from Rawhide" is planned
>> >> tomorrow (2013-08-20) and "Alpha Change Deadline" is also pretty soon
>> >> as Dennis pointed out (2013-09-03).
>> Please postpone this. IMO, this is much too early.
>>
>> Also take into account what time of year it is: Summer Holidays (at
>> least in Europe).
>
> Well,
> the reason why it was scheduled so early (and already postponed by two
> weeks) are other holidays - we have to avoid hitting December, when
> everyone is on vacations :(. One week = Thanksgivings, two weeks =
> Christmas...

But what has the branch date to do with the mass rebuild? I mean can't
people fix stuff after alpha (before beta) unless the package not
working is an alpha blocker?
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Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
> On 08/19/2013 01:32 PM, drago01 wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik 
> > wrote:
> >> - Original Message -
> >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >>> Hash: SHA1
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I have merged perl info f20 and started the mass rebuild.
> >>
> >> Hi!
> >> A friendly reminder - "Branch Fedora 20 from Rawhide" is planned
> >> tomorrow (2013-08-20) and "Alpha Change Deadline" is also pretty soon
> >> as Dennis pointed out (2013-09-03).
> Please postpone this. IMO, this is much too early.
>
> Also take into account what time of year it is: Summer Holidays (at
> least in Europe).

Well, 
the reason why it was scheduled so early (and already postponed by two
weeks) are other holidays - we have to avoid hitting December, when 
everyone is on vacations :(. One week = Thanksgivings, two weeks =
Christmas... 

Jaroslav

> Many people have been on vacation and some still are (Around here,
> summer holidays end early/mid September).
> 
> >> Looking on the current list [1],
> >> there are still quite a few failing packages - so please, take a look
> >> on your packages ;-).
> >>
> >> Jaroslav
> >>
> >> /me has two build failures too...
> >>
> >> [1] http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f20-failed.html
> >
> > I don't have any packages on that list but wouldn't it make sense to
> > keep the build logs a bit longer?
> 
> ACK. this would have been very helpful.
> 
> > That way people have to fire off a build just to see the error logs
> > which isn't really the most efficient workflow.
> Exactly. Having worked though many of them recently, lack of the
> build.logs isn't very helpful.
> 
> Ralf
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Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Christopher Meng
在 2013-8-19 PM7:49,"Ralf Corsepius" 写道:
> Please postpone this. IMO, this is much too early.
>
> Also take into account what time of year it is: Summer Holidays (at least
in Europe).
>
> Many people have been on vacation and some still are (Around here, summer
holidays end early/mid September).

+1
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Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 08/19/2013 01:32 PM, drago01 wrote:

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik  wrote:

- Original Message -

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi all,

I have merged perl info f20 and started the mass rebuild.


Hi!
A friendly reminder - "Branch Fedora 20 from Rawhide" is planned
tomorrow (2013-08-20) and "Alpha Change Deadline" is also pretty soon
as Dennis pointed out (2013-09-03).

Please postpone this. IMO, this is much too early.

Also take into account what time of year it is: Summer Holidays (at 
least in Europe).


Many people have been on vacation and some still are (Around here, 
summer holidays end early/mid September).



Looking on the current list [1],
there are still quite a few failing packages - so please, take a look
on your packages ;-).

Jaroslav

/me has two build failures too...

[1] http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f20-failed.html


I don't have any packages on that list but wouldn't it make sense to
keep the build logs a bit longer?


ACK. this would have been very helpful.


That way people have to fire off a build just to see the error logs
which isn't really the most efficient workflow.
Exactly. Having worked though many of them recently, lack of the 
build.logs isn't very helpful.


Ralf

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Re: Suggestion: bmap files and bmaptool

2013-08-19 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 16:43 +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote:
> You definitely need the fsync before doing the fiemap.
> We saw this on certain file systems including ext4 when adding
> fiemap support (efficient reading of holes) to cp.
> This is a bug in the fiemap interface IMHO in that it returns
> fairly useless data unless FIEMAP_FLAG_SYNC is specified.
> For a general utility like cp, we couldn't sync each file before copying
> (even only large files), so we restrict fiemap usage to files that
> have a different disk usage than apparent size and so probably contain holes.

I see, thanks a lot for suggestion.

Just to make it clear, this is more like working around file-system
bugs, which, as I guess, were present in early days of FIEMAP.

I'll look into adding FIEMAP_FLAG_SYNC to Fiemap.py in bmap-tools,
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Fwd: promoting to package co-maintainers?

2013-08-19 Thread Kaleb S. KEITHLEY


Flock is over. How about some action on my ticket?

Or reject the ticket and tell me why!




 Original Message 
Subject: promoting to package co-maintainers?
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:31:13 -0400
From: Kaleb S. KEITHLEY 
To: Development discussions related to Fedora 



Hi

On 7 Aug I opened a trac ticket (as per 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group#Become_a_co-maintainer) 
to request that two colleagues be

promoted to the packager group so that I can grant them the commit ACL
for the glusterfs package. They both work full time on GlusterFS.

I have not heard anything in response to the trac ticket and I'm curious 
about what the normal amount of time is for action a ticket like this.


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Re: Suggestion: bmap files and bmaptool

2013-08-19 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 17:09 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:34:26PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> > But then there's the issue of transporting these sparse files
> > around.  We have had the same problem in the past with large e2image
> > metadata image files, which may be terabytes in length, with only
> > gigabytes or megabytes of real data.  e2image _itself_ creates a
> > sparse file, but bzipping it or rsyncing it still processes
> > terabytes of zeros, and loses all notion of sparseness.
> 
> xz preserves sparseness.  We use it for preserving and compressing
> virt-sparsify'd images.

Right, this is a good solution for the problem area of just saving the
sparseness and later restoring it.

The problem area for bmaptool is a bit wider.

1. There are large images which are inherently sparse
2. They are distributed via ftp/http/etc servers

How do we enable the users flashing these images

a) very quickly
b) easily
c) without breaking the old way of flashing (dd)

For the first part, we exploit the sparseness information, which is
saved in the bmap file.

For the second part, we implement stream-reading directly from the
remote service, stream-decompressing on-the fly, and flashing in
parallel. This rules out the "xz saves sparseness" design.

For the third part, we keep the sparseness information in a separate
file which makes it entirely optional.


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Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread drago01
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jaroslav Reznik  wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have merged perl info f20 and started the mass rebuild.
>
> Hi!
> A friendly reminder - "Branch Fedora 20 from Rawhide" is planned
> tomorrow (2013-08-20) and "Alpha Change Deadline" is also pretty soon
> as Dennis pointed out (2013-09-03). Looking on the current list [1],
> there are still quite a few failing packages - so please, take a look
> on your packages ;-).
>
> Jaroslav
>
> /me has two build failures too...
>
> [1] http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f20-failed.html

I don't have any packages on that list but wouldn't it make sense to
keep the build logs a bit longer?
That way people have to fire off a build just to see the error logs
which isn't really the most efficient workflow.

We should keep the logs for the most recent build attempt until a
newer build obsoletes them.

Dennis?
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Re: mass rebuild update

2013-08-19 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have merged perl info f20 and started the mass rebuild.

Hi!
A friendly reminder - "Branch Fedora 20 from Rawhide" is planned 
tomorrow (2013-08-20) and "Alpha Change Deadline" is also pretty soon
as Dennis pointed out (2013-09-03). Looking on the current list [1],
there are still quite a few failing packages - so please, take a look 
on your packages ;-).

Jaroslav

/me has two build failures too...

[1] http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f20-failed.html

> You can see the current list of failures[1] and list to be built[2].
> Both lists are updated every 5 minutes. at the end of the initial run
> though we will file bugs for all FTBFS. Please be sure to get on top of
> FTBFS quickly as there is not a lot of time before Alpha Change
> deadline.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> [1] http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f20-failed.html
> [2]http://ausil.fedorapeople.org/f20-needsbuilt.html
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Re: Suggestion: bmap files and bmaptool

2013-08-19 Thread Artem Bityutskiy
On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 09:51 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> by single file I meant a _single_ file, not the original file and a mapping
> file.  :)

Oh, sorry, OK.

> I realize that you have a fully-fledged set of tools, and you're not looking
> for new directions, but I was thinking about encoding mapping info & file data
> into a single file, with a tool to extract it again.  That way there's nothing
> to get out of sync.

Well, I do wish to know about alternatives, or the better ways to do it,
of course.

> Actually, now that I think about it qemu-img can do that already:
> (sorry, I'm getting a little off topic here, bear with me)
> 
> # truncate --size=1g fsfile
> # mkfs.ext4 fsfile
> # cp fsfile --sparse=never fsfile.copy
> 
> // fsfile is sparse; the copy is not.
> 
> # du -hc fsfile*
> 49M   fsfile
> 1.0G  fsfile.copy
> 
> # qemu-img convert -f raw -O qcow fsfile.copy fsfile.qcow
> 
> // the qcow image now contains only data+mapping info,
> // no zero ranges:
> # du -h fsfile.qcow
> 832K  fsfile.qcow
> 
> // and can be re-extracted into a sparse file
> 
> # qemu-img convert -O raw fsfile.qcow fsfile.copy2
> # du -hc fsfile.copy2 
> 352K  fsfile.copy2

So from 49M down to 352K, sparseness increased by 48M? Where it came
from? Must be that this command turned zero blocks into gaps. Like the
zeroed out inode tables, etc.

> Ok, sorry for that diversion, but that's cool - the tool I want
> already exists, and I hadn't realized it.  :)

Exactly this usage is not good enough for flashing purposes, because
when flashing to a block device you have to flash the zeroes, you cannot
skip them as you do for holes.

But I am sure the qcow tools can save sparseness without turning zeroes
into gaps, or at least this should not be too difficult to implement
this.

But in case of bmaptool I chose to keep the sparseness information in a
separate file because I wanted to make sure the bmap is optional. Those
who use Windows/Mac or do not want to install any additional tools could
still use the old method of throwing the entire image to the target
block device.

Another goal I had is to make the additional bmap file to be a
human-readable text file.

But yes, having all in one file does have its own advantages.

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Re: looking for sponsor

2013-08-19 Thread Peter Hanecak
Hello,

I would like to ask again for somebody to sponsor me and help me finish
review and packaging of gimp-separate+.

Thank you in advance.

Peter


On 08/05/2013 10:22 PM, Peter Hanecak wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> after initial slow progress I'm now looking for a sponsor to finish the
> review process and packaging of gimp-separate+:
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=913289
> 
> 
> Thank you in advance for help.
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> On 02/20/2013 10:26 PM, Peter Hanecak wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've been asked by Luya Tshimbalanga  to
>> maintain the gimp-separate+ package for official Fedora project so that
>> it can be included in Design Suite Livemedia.
>>
>> Having read some introductory information, I would now like to introduce
>> myself with few short facts:
>>
>> - I'm using Linux (at start Red Hat, later Fedora) since roughly 1997.
>>
>> - To ease the maintenance of my systems, I'm creating RPM packages "just
>> for myself" since 1998 - this one seems to be the oldest one:
>>
>>  http://hany.sk/~hany/RPM/doors1/jserv-doc-0.9.11-2.i386.html
>>
>> - I'm supporter of Free and Open Source Software and small-scale
>> contributor, more recently broadening it with participation in Open Data
>> initiatives.
>>
>> - Now, Luya's invite finally pushed me to come closer to the Fedora project.
>>
>> - I'm earning a living by doing software development and related
>> consulting work.
>>
>> - I'm married with two children.
>>
>>
>> I'm looking forward for future cooperation. And I would also like to
>> thank in advance to all which will help me to get through initial stages
>> of first package submission
>> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=913289).
>>
>> Sincerely
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Merging accounts on ask.fedoraproject.org

2013-08-19 Thread Lukas Zapletal
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 09:05:34PM +1000, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> You should be able to click on your profile and then use the "manage
> login methods" to merge your logins etc. 

That works just fine in my case, thanks!

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Re: [Java package] add_to_maven_depmap macro issue

2013-08-19 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 08/18/2013 07:03 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> One of my packages: dcm4che-test fails to build for rawhide currently.
> There's a bug filed here[1]. The build.log seems to fail on the
> "add_to_maven_depmap" macro. I think it doesn't find it at all[2]. Could
> someone please tell me if I'm missing a BR or if the macros have
> changed[3]?
> 
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=992114
> [2] http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/dcm4che-build.log
> [3]
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Java/JPPMavenReadme#Packages_adding_their_own_depmaps

%add_to_maven_depmap has been obsolete for long time and it was recently
removed.  See my announcements on java-devel [1,2].

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Builds using latex2html gets stuck infinitely (#994883)

2013-08-19 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello,

can someone please check this latex2html bug [1]? I've reported it many
times on this list on a different thread but somehow it went unnoticed.

I know user jnovy has left Redhat, but the package is still owned by him
[2] and is blocking my builds since the beginning of August. Shouldn't the
package be orphaned?

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[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=994883
[2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/latex2html



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Re: Scala package owner unresponsive

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:41:52 -0600, Jerry James wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Will Benton wrote:
> > (1)  As far as I can tell, the package for Scala 2.9.2 on F19 (2.9.2-2) has 
> > broken dependencies; I can't install it via yum on my new F19 install.  Is 
> > this the case for anyone else?  If so, wouldn't it be best to have a 
> > working Scala 2.9 package in F19 and introduce 2.10 in a later release?
> 
> Version 2.9.2-4 was built for F-18, but was never built for F-19 or
> F-20.  The changelog entries for -3 and -4 say:
> 
> * Wed Jan 23 2013 Jochen Schmitt  - 2.9.2-4
> - Fix multiuser issues with fsc on /tmp/scala-devel directory (#903160)
> 
> * Sun Nov 25 2012 Jochen Schmitt  2.9.2-3
> - Fix OSGI dependency issue

Well, the builds failed:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=6830
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Heads-up: Obsolete but still included packages

2013-08-19 Thread Michael Schwendt
A couple of obsolete packages is still included in Rawhide. Usually
that means a package has not been retired yet or has been retired
incompletely:

  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life

In some cases, the dead package is only missing the koji block request
in Fedora rel-eng trac. In other cases, the package has not even been
marked a "dead.package" in git yet:

Obsolete ('chktex', 'i686', '0', '1.6.4', '12.fc19')
Obsolete ('classads-devel', 'i686', '0', '1.0.8', '7.fc20')
Obsolete ('classads', 'i686', '0', '1.0.8', '7.fc20')
Obsolete ('classads-static', 'i686', '0', '1.0.8', '7.fc20')
Obsolete ('detex', 'i686', '0', '2.8', '6.fc20')
Obsolete ('drupal6-drush', 'noarch', '0', '4.1', '7.fc20')
Obsolete ('ff-utils', 'i686', '0', '2.4.21', '7.fc19')
Obsolete ('gpp4-devel', 'i686', '0', '1.3.1', '5.fc20')
Obsolete ('gpp4', 'i686', '0', '1.3.1', '5.fc20')
Obsolete ('ibus-table-array30', 'noarch', '0', '1.2.0.20090729', '6.fc20')
Obsolete ('jadetex', 'noarch', '0', '3.13', '14.fc19')
Obsolete ('jaxen-bootstrap', 'noarch', '0', '1.1', '8.2.fc20')
Obsolete ('joystick', 'i686', '0', '1.2.15', '30.fc20')
Obsolete ('kdirstat', 'i686', '0', '2.5.3', '17.fc20')
Obsolete ('latexdiff', 'noarch', '0', '1.0.2', '4.fc20')
Obsolete ('lzma', 'i686', '0', '4.32.7', '10.fc20')
Obsolete ('mate-conf-devel', 'i686', '0', '1.4.0', '23.fc20')
Obsolete ('mate-conf-editor', 'i686', '0', '1.4.0', '3.fc19')
Obsolete ('mate-conf-gtk', 'i686', '0', '1.4.0', '23.fc20')
Obsolete ('mate-conf', 'i686', '0', '1.4.0', '23.fc20')
Obsolete ('metapost-metauml', 'noarch', '0', '0.2.5', '12.fc20')
Obsolete ('nss-myhostname', 'i686', '0', '0.3', '5.fc20')
Obsolete ('openswan', 'i686', '0', '2.6.38', '11.fc19')
Obsolete ('pdfbook', 'i686', '0', '20070930', '10.fc20')
Obsolete ('pdfjam', 'noarch', '0', '2.08', '4.fc18')
Obsolete ('ps2eps', 'i686', '0', '1.68', '7.fc20')
Obsolete ('python-cryptsetup', 'i686', '0', '0.1.4', '6.fc20')
Obsolete ('python-lvm', 'i686', '0', '1.9.2', '3.fc20')
Obsolete ('python-quantumclient', 'noarch', '2', '2.2.1', '4.fc20')
Obsolete ('ruby-gtksourceview2-devel', 'i686', '0', '0.90.4', '2.fc20.1')
Obsolete ('ruby-gtksourceview2', 'i686', '0', '0.90.4', '2.fc20.1')
Obsolete ('seahorse-plugins', 'i686', '0', '2.91.6', '0.5.git1e35fd9.fc18')
Obsolete ('tetex-IEEEtran', 'noarch', '0', '1.7.1', '8.fc20')
Obsolete ('xmltex', 'noarch', '0', '20020625', '21.fc20')
Obsolete ('yum-plugin-security', 'noarch', '0', '1.1.31', '17.fc20')
Obsolete ('zeitgeist-datahub', 'i686', '0', '0.9.5', '3.fc20')
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[Bug 992666] perl-Language-Expr: FTBFS in rawhide

2013-08-19 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=992666



--- Comment #3 from Paul Howarth  ---
It still doesn't work with the new Regexp::Grammars 1.031 either. Looks like we
might have to wait for Perl 5.18.2.

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Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2013-08-14)

2013-08-19 Thread Jan Zelený
On 16. 8. 2013 at 15:20:57, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Matthias Clasen (mcla...@redhat.com) said:
> > On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 08:42 +0200, Jan Zelený wrote:
> > > Actually no, the system is all hacked up and works in a super-abusive
> > > way, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=979083
> > 
> > That bug is really an illustration why it is just wrong to keep
> > information about the update history in a semi-private 'db' that only
> > yum gets to access.
> > 
> > This information belongs into the journal. We have the change to fix
> > that in the dnf transition.
> 
> As long as the journal is rotated out at arbitrary times due to space
> reasons, I really really don't think the information belongs there.

Agreed. This information doesn't belong to journal and we have no intentions 
to put it there.

> It should still be in a public db for other things to use, though.

We already have a plan to extract the db-handling code from dnf to an external 
library. That should make the situation more developer friendly.

Thanks
Jan
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