Differences in font configuration between Gnome and KDE

2014-01-22 Thread Sandro Mani

Hi,

I'd like to build Qt-Creator against Qt5 for F21+, however I dislike the 
way Qt5 apps render fonts under KDE and am therefore hesitant to push 
the update, see [1] for a screenshot comparing the font rendering Qt4 
(left) vs Qt5 (right) on KDE.


Not the actual question: I've tested the same Qt5 build on Gnome, and 
oddly enough, there fonts look okay! So I was wondering, is there any 
tool which dumps the active font configuration (I guess that would be 
the Xft parameters?), so that I can find out what is causing the bad 
rendering on KDE?


There's also a bug report on the issue, see [2].

Thanks,
Sandro


[1] http://smani.fedorapeople.org/qt4vsqt5.png
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1052389
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Re: Retiring my gnome-shell search providers

2014-01-22 Thread Bastien Nocera


- Original Message -
 Hello,
 
 A while ago, I wrote a trio of gnome-shell search providers:
 
 https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/gnome-shell-search-fedora-packages

This one is probably obsoleted by gnome-software's search feature. Maybe you 
could
obsolete it instead of retiring/orphaning this one?

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2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-Module-Build-Tiny] Update to 0.034

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
commit d536e90400555b553848a49fe8a3f5acc3a2ff4e
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Wed Jan 22 11:56:43 2014 +

Update to 0.034

- New upstream release 0.034
  - Make install tests more platform independent

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 %{_mandir}/man3/Module::Build::Tiny.3pm*
 
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+- Update to 0.034
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+
 * Tue Jan 21 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 0.033-1
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Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-22 Thread Richard Hughes
Hi,

As the subject suggests, Fedora 22 will require applications to have a
long description to be shown in the software center. We're introducing
this change so that we can show a powerful application full of
high-quality content, rather than what we have now which is a equal
mixture of awesome and sadness.

If you're interested you can see the number of applications with
appdata without installing gnome-software from rawhide here:
http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/screenshots/f21/status.html
(warning; huge generated HTML file).

A lot of unmaintained or unloved applications will be removed (which
is a totally good thing, we don't want new users choosing buggy and
crashy apps), but there are also a lot of applications there that we
probably want to save. Note that I don't want the packages removed
from Fedora; users can still use the command line to install them,
just not show them in the 'Software' GUI.

Saving an application (so that it still appears in the software
center) is just a matter of either:

 * Convincing upstream to ship and install an appdata file
 * Installing an appdata file from the Fedora package into
/usr/share/appdata (if upstream is dead / unwilling to add the file)

I've written a bit about the AppData status on my blog,
http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2014/01/22/appdata-status-for-january/
and so far over 200 applications ship AppData in Fedora 21. That's a
long way from what I'd like to see, but it's going up at about 1% per
month, which is encouraging.

KDE/XFCE doesn't ship gnome-software - however Apper does parse the
appdata in KDE, and we also want to show awesome KDE/XFCE applications
in gnome-software so this really applies distro-wide.

Comments welcome, thanks.

Richard
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Re: What to do about packaging beta, or rc as alternate installable

2014-01-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 07:33:40PM -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
 One of the packages I maintain is mercurial.  Frequently (e.g., now), there
 is a rc version available for test.  It will probably break some other package
 that depends on it.
 
 I am thinking of a model like google uses for chrome.  I could install any of:
 
 google-chrome-{stable,beta,unstable}
 
 I don't think fedora uses this model anywhere.  AFAICT, in Fedora there is 
 always only 1 version available - although there could be one in updates-
 testing.  But the purpose of updates-testing is now for a long-lived parallel
 development - it is designed for short term before promotion to stable.
 
 Although the google-chrome model is perhaps not the ideal way to handle the
 idea of alternative versions - it seems good enough.
 
 Any thoughts?

virt-preview is another model you might look at.

Some time (hopefully soon) we'll be building virt-preview using copr,
but for the time being you can read about it here:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Virtualization_Preview_Repository

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2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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Re: Environment and Stacks PRD

2014-01-22 Thread Marcela Mašláňová

On 01/21/2014 10:03 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:

Marcela Mašláňová (mmasl...@redhat.com) said:

Environment and Stacks Working Group approved the first version of
PRD. Feel free to comment what is missing or what should be altered.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Product_Requirements_Document


I don't see anything necessarily bad in what's written here, but the document
seems to jump very quickly from the Vision statement into an itemized list
of what appear to be work items, without an overarching framework or story
linking the two. (Maybe moving the user stories up helps here, maybe not.)
It seems hard to measure success against the vision for the group, as
opposed to just measuring the success as 'implemented task/goal X'.

Also, while it says that [t]his document does not dictate implementation
details, the tasks and goals section does go into the weeds, especially in
the SCL  DevAssistant sections.

Bill

It's not real PRD, because this WG won't create a real product. List of 
tasks is based partly on user stories, partly on what we thought might 
improve Fedora for developers.
We reached consensus on this version of document, I guess we could 
review your comments and add them on our next meeting.


Personally, I missed input from other WGs. For example I heard Cloud WG 
might use Ruby collections, but doest it really happen? Maybe we can 
plan after review of other WGs, what should be our main objectives.


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Re: [perl-HTML-Tree/epel7] Retire - actually in RHEL

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
On 22/01/14 01:43, Bill Nottingham wrote:
 Summary of changes:
 
8e17d38... Retire - actually in RHEL (*)

Might the retirement process have blocked perl-HTML-Tree from being pulled in 
from RHEL in koji? That's what it looks like from this scratch build:

http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/9537/6439537/root.log


DEBUG util.py:266:  Getting requirements for perl-Test-Valgrind-1.14-1.el7.src
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : 4:perl-5.16.3-280.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : perl-Carp-1.26-243.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-Digest-MD5-2.52-1.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-Env-Sanctify-1.10-1.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-ExtUtils-Install-1.58-280.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker-6.68-2.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : 4:perl-5.16.3-280.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-File-HomeDir-1.00-3.1.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : perl-File-Path-2.09-1.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : perl-PathTools-3.40-3.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : perl-File-Temp-0.23.01-2.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : perl-Filter-1.49-1.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : 4:perl-5.16.3-280.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : 
perl-Scalar-List-Utils-1.27-246.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : 4:perl-5.16.3-280.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-Perl-Destruct-Level-0.02-5.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : 
perl-Scalar-List-Utils-1.27-246.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-Test-Simple-0.98-242.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-Test-Simple-0.98-242.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- perl-XML-Twig-3.44-1.el7.noarch
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- Already installed : 4:perl-5.16.3-280.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- 3:perl-version-0.99.02-2.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:   -- 1:valgrind-3.9.0-1.2.el7.x86_64
DEBUG util.py:266:  Error: Package: perl-XML-Twig-3.44-1.el7.noarch (build)
DEBUG util.py:266: Requires: perl(HTML::TreeBuilder) = 4.00
DEBUG util.py:266:   You could try using --skip-broken to work around the 
problem
DEBUG util.py:266:   You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
DEBUG util.py:356:  Child return code was: 1

Paul.
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Re: Environment and Stacks PRD

2014-01-22 Thread H . Guémar
Ruby collections ? Did you mean SCL ?  At the moment, the cloud WG hadn't
discuss any other options.
We're not the only stakeholders on that matters, these are topics requiring
collaboration with other WG.

H.
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Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-22 Thread Richard Hughes
On 22 January 2014 12:09, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's a long way from what I'd like to see, but it's going up at about 1% per
 month, which is encouraging.

Replying to my own email, apologies. I've now gone through the entire
list of applications-in-fedora-without-appdata. A *lot* of those
applications haven't seen an upstream release in half a decade, some
over a decade. I would estimate that 40% of all the apps in Fedora are
dead or semi-dead upstream. Excluding the KDE/XFCE/LXDE applications,
I'd say we had a 70% completion of the applications I'd like to see in
the software center. I've filed a lot of upstream bugs in the last two
hours, so hopefully that's another few percent sorted.

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Re: Environment and Stacks PRD

2014-01-22 Thread Marcela Mašláňová

On 01/22/2014 03:44 PM, H. Guémar wrote:

Ruby collections ? Did you mean SCL ?  At the moment, the cloud WG
hadn't discuss any other options.
We're not the only stakeholders on that matters, these are topics
requiring collaboration with other WG.

H.




Yes, I meant SCL.

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Re: Differences in font configuration between Gnome and KDE

2014-01-22 Thread Sandro Mani


On 22.01.2014 17:35, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 11:28 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to build Qt-Creator against Qt5 for F21+, however I dislike the
way Qt5 apps render fonts under KDE and am therefore hesitant to push
the update, see [1] for a screenshot comparing the font rendering Qt4
(left) vs Qt5 (right) on KDE.

That looks a lot like 'medium' hinting (left) vs 'slight' (right). KDE
has a knob for everything, it must have a knob for font hinting
somewhere...try twiddling that to see if you can get it to match?

I tried all hinting levels, and couldn't spot any difference (on KDE).
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Re: Differences in font configuration between Gnome and KDE

2014-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 11:28 +0100, Sandro Mani wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'd like to build Qt-Creator against Qt5 for F21+, however I dislike the 
 way Qt5 apps render fonts under KDE and am therefore hesitant to push 
 the update, see [1] for a screenshot comparing the font rendering Qt4 
 (left) vs Qt5 (right) on KDE.

That looks a lot like 'medium' hinting (left) vs 'slight' (right). KDE
has a knob for everything, it must have a knob for font hinting
somewhere...try twiddling that to see if you can get it to match?
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Re: Swig and -Werror=format-security

2014-01-22 Thread Orion Poplawski
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On 01/21/2014 10:18 AM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
 Is anybody addressing the output of Swig WRT this problem? Our project 
 (Qpid) generates language bindings using Swig during the build process. 
 Our build is now failing on F21. For example:
 
 /builddir/build/BUILD/qpid-0.24/cpp/bindings/qpid/ruby/rubyRUBY_wrap.cxx:2237:38:error:
 format not a string literal and no format arguments
 [-Werror=format-security] rb_raise(error, ex.what());
 
 Has anybody addressed this issue with Swig? I brought this up when the 
 idea of -Werror=format-security was being floated and a bug filed again 
 qpid-cpp for this failure and even replied as such in the BZ [1].
 
 [1] BZ#1037295
 
 
 

I don't think so.  Please file a bug upstream:

http://sourceforge.net/p/swig/bugs/

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Re: LibRaw soname bump

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 09:56:18AM -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
 The latest LibRaw is landing momentarily.  The soname has changed so I'll
 be rebuilding evas-generic-loaders, libkdcraw, oyranos and shotwell.  If I
 missed anything I'll fix that up as well.

Entangle.

I've bumped the release  triggered a rebuild now

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Re: LibRaw soname bump

2014-01-22 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.comwrote:

 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 09:56:18AM -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
  The latest LibRaw is landing momentarily.  The soname has changed so I'll
  be rebuilding evas-generic-loaders, libkdcraw, oyranos and shotwell.  If
 I
  missed anything I'll fix that up as well.

 Entangle.

 I've bumped the release  triggered a rebuild now

 Thanks!  I was in process and merged my changes by accident but won't
build.

-J


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Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:43:47 -0700
Luke Macken lmac...@redhat.com wrote:

 Unfortunately, bodhi has not had dedicated full-time development
 resources in a long time. Thankfully, I now have the cycles to put
 into new features, such as improving the feedback mechanisms.
 
 Many components of the Bodhi 2.0 vision are long-term, and rely on a
 plethora of other pieces to fall into place, such as
 python-fedora+fas-openid, koji+mash, taskotron, depcheck-mk-2, and so
 on. Other pieces of the puzzle can be implemented and deployed
 incrementally within the current tools now.
 
 My focus lately has been around the releng/infra side of the updates
 process, but for a feature that would make things 'immeasurably
 better' (even though I think it would actually be measurable :P), I'd
 be happy to shift gears to the QA/frontend side of things to help get
 it done sooner rather than later.
 
 As far as I can tell, you sent some ideas to a mailing list a few
 years ago about it, and then Mathieu started a prototype. I can't
 find any RFEs filed for it, so I'll create one and see what I can do
 about getting the existing prototype polished and integrated for
 testing.

It would be absolutely lovely to get a bodhi-dev instance up on a cloud
node running bodhi2 so we could see where we were and what needed to be
worked on. 

Perhaps we could get interested folks together in irc sometime soon and
discuss plans/status? 

kevin


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Re: LibRaw soname bump

2014-01-22 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:44:52AM -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Daniel P. Berrange 
 berra...@redhat.comwrote:
 
  On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 09:56:18AM -0600, Jon Ciesla wrote:
   The latest LibRaw is landing momentarily.  The soname has changed so I'll
   be rebuilding evas-generic-loaders, libkdcraw, oyranos and shotwell.  If
  I
   missed anything I'll fix that up as well.
 
  Entangle.
 
  I've bumped the release  triggered a rebuild now
 
  Thanks!  I was in process and merged my changes by accident but won't
 build.

Heh, guess we both saw the rawhide broken deps report at the same time :-)

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Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Replying to my own email, apologies. I've now gone through the entire
 list of applications-in-fedora-without-appdata. A *lot* of those
 applications haven't seen an upstream release in half a decade, some
 over a decade. I would estimate that 40% of all the apps in Fedora are
 dead or semi-dead upstream.

Sometimes software is just mostly finished. Not getting an updated
version isn't itself evidence of something being dead.
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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-01-23 17:00 UTC)

2014-01-22 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2014-01-23 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

 Local time information (via. rktime):

2014-01-23 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST
2014-01-23 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST
2014-01-23 17:00 Thu UTC -
2014-01-23 17:00 Thu Europe/London -
2014-01-23 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris   CET
2014-01-23 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin  CET
2014-01-23 22:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta  IST
--new day--
2014-01-24 01:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT
2014-01-24 01:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT
2014-01-24 02:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST
2014-01-24 03:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST

 Links to all tickets below can be found at: 

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12

= Followups =

(approval and retirement sections already passed,
 nothing to discuss this week)
#topic #339 software collections in Fedora
.fpc 339
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339

(no draft, to be closed)
#topic #358 Please make some autotools guidelines.
.fpc 358
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/358

#topic #381 Bundling exception for python-matplotlib fonts
.fpc 381
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/381

#topic #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft
.fpc 382
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382

= New business =

#topic #384 New Java Packaging Guidelines
.fpc 384
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/384

#topic #385 workarounds for rpm symlink - directory issue
.fpc 385
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/385

#topic #386 /etc/shells need to be considered
.fpc 386
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/386

#topic #387 Bundling exception: Heimdal bundles libtommath
.fpc 387
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/387

= Open Floor = 

 For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at:

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12


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[perl-Test-LeakTrace] Created tag perl-Test-LeakTrace-0.14-5.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-LeakTrace-0.14-5.el7' was created pointing to:

 60134e2... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Mass
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[perl-JSON-XS] Created tag perl-JSON-XS-3.01-1.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-JSON-XS-3.01-1.el7' was created pointing to:

 4d6177d... Update to 3.01
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Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:09:25PM +, Richard Hughes wrote:
 As the subject suggests, Fedora 22 will require applications to have a
 long description to be shown in the software center. We're introducing
 this change so that we can show a powerful application full of
 high-quality content, rather than what we have now which is a equal
 mixture of awesome and sadness.

Has anyone looked at (or would it be interesting for someone to) integration
with https://apps.fedoraproject.org/tagger/?


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Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-01-22)

2014-01-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-01-22)
===


Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-01-22/fesco.2014-01-22-18.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* init process  (nirik, 18:00:02)

* #1197 Procedure for suggesting/approving different Products and/or
  WGs?  (nirik, 18:02:48)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1197   (nirik, 18:02:48)

* #1222 PRD Approval Request: Server PRD  (nirik, 18:04:09)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1222   (nirik, 18:04:09)
  * AGREED: approved. ( +7, -0, 1 )  (nirik, 18:09:47)

* #1224 PRD Approval Request: Env and Stacks PRD  (nirik, 18:09:56)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1224   (nirik, 18:09:56)
  * AGREED: approved (+8,0,1)  (nirik, 18:16:02)

* #1225 PRD Approval Request: Cloud PRD  (nirik, 18:16:04)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1225   (nirik, 18:16:05)
  * AGREED: approved (+8,0,1)  (nirik, 18:27:51)

* #1226 Workstation PRD for approval  (nirik, 18:28:04)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1226   (nirik, 18:28:04)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1226#comment:4 , I
apologize for the very late coment,  (mitr, 18:29:03)
  * AGREED: defer PRD approval for one week. Request clarification on WG
re: 1) schedule autonomy 2) deviation from some of the traditional
rules or policies that Fedora has followed. FESCo has concerns
about blanket approval of these statements. (+7,0,0)  (nirik,
18:51:44)

* #1221 Product working group activity reports  (nirik, 19:02:52)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1221   (nirik, 19:02:53)
  * urge working groups to try and identify things that affect
qa/releng/infrastructure/docs/etc as soon as they can  (mmaslano,
19:13:59)
  * AGREED: Tenative deadline of Feb 17th for next working group
deliverables. Please try and engage other groups with plans as soon
as you can. (+7,0,0)  (nirik, 19:18:27)

* Next week's chair  (nirik, 19:18:38)
  * sgallagh to chair next week  (nirik, 19:20:35)

* Open Floor  (nirik, 19:20:43)
  * election voting starts tomorrow. Please remember to vote.  (nirik,
19:29:37)

Meeting ended at 19:35:26 UTC.




Action Items






Action Items, by person
---
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
---
* nirik (118)
* mattdm (56)
* jwb (50)
* sgallagh (38)
* pjones (32)
* abadger1999 (31)
* mitr (27)
* mmaslano (26)
* notting (20)
* jreznik_ (19)
* zodbot (10)
* t8m (0)
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18:00:01 nirik #startmeeting FESCO (2014-01-22)
18:00:01 zodbot Meeting started Wed Jan 22 18:00:01 2014 UTC.  The chair is 
nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:00:01 zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link 
#topic.
18:00:02 nirik #meetingname fesco
18:00:02 nirik #chair abadger1999 mattdm mitr mmaslano notting nirik pjones 
t8m sgallagh
18:00:02 nirik #topic init process
18:00:02 zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
18:00:02 zodbot Current chairs: abadger1999 mattdm mitr mmaslano nirik 
notting pjones sgallagh t8m
18:00:22 mitr Hello
18:00:30 mattdm hi!
18:01:01 sgallagh I'm here for about 30 minutes
18:01:29 * nirik waits for at least one more for quorum
18:01:59 * abadger1999 is here
18:02:19 * notting is here now. sorry, network hiccup.
18:02:23 mmaslano hi
18:02:35 nirik cool. I guess lets go ahead and dive in...
18:02:48 nirik #topic #1197   Procedure for suggesting/approving different 
Products and/or WGs?
18:02:48 nirik .fesco 1197
18:02:48 nirik https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1197
18:02:49 zodbot nirik: #1197 (Procedure for suggesting/approving different 
Products and/or WGs?) – FESCo - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1197
18:02:57 nirik mattdm: you wanted to punt this another week?
18:03:15 mattdm nirik yes please.
18:03:23 nirik ok.
18:03:25 mattdm and, um, not next week becaues I won;t be here.
18:03:44 mattdm although hopefully I will have time to write something up.
18:03:56 nirik ok. Update the ticket as time permits. ;)
18:04:01 * mattdm nods
18:04:04 nirik on then to PRD approvals...
18:04:09 nirik #topic  #1222 PRD Approval Request: Server PRD
18:04:09 nirik .fesco 1222
18:04:09 nirik https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1222
18:04:13 zodbot nirik: #1222 (PRD Approval Request: Server PRD) – FESCo - 
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1222
18:04:17 nirik here's the server one...
18:04:44 pjones apologies, I am here.
18:04:46 nirik any questions or comments or discussion? or shall we head to 
votes?
18:04:57 mattdm do we want to have a convention for the fesco members to 
abstain or vote on their own?
18:05:06 nirik sgallagh and t8m were +1 in ticket.
18:05:08 mmaslano I like it, it looks good +1
18:05:13 mmaslano mattdm: good question :)
18:05:30 * mitr will abstain
18:05:31 

boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread poma

Fedora 18 End of Life
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2014-January/003194.html

boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO):

- Fedora-18-i386/x86_64
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_install.conf
GOTO EOL
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_eol.conf

- Fedora-18-i386/x86_64-rescue
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_rescue.conf
GOTO NULL

- Fedora-20-Alpha/Beta !?
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_prerelease.conf
GOTO NULL

- Fedora 15 TC1 i686 Live Desktop !?
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_live.conf
GOTO NULL


Be awesome after effects? :)


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Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 10:36 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:43:47 -0700
 Luke Macken lmac...@redhat.com wrote:
 
  Unfortunately, bodhi has not had dedicated full-time development
  resources in a long time. Thankfully, I now have the cycles to put
  into new features, such as improving the feedback mechanisms.
  
  Many components of the Bodhi 2.0 vision are long-term, and rely on a
  plethora of other pieces to fall into place, such as
  python-fedora+fas-openid, koji+mash, taskotron, depcheck-mk-2, and so
  on. Other pieces of the puzzle can be implemented and deployed
  incrementally within the current tools now.
  
  My focus lately has been around the releng/infra side of the updates
  process, but for a feature that would make things 'immeasurably
  better' (even though I think it would actually be measurable :P), I'd
  be happy to shift gears to the QA/frontend side of things to help get
  it done sooner rather than later.
  
  As far as I can tell, you sent some ideas to a mailing list a few
  years ago about it, and then Mathieu started a prototype. I can't
  find any RFEs filed for it, so I'll create one and see what I can do
  about getting the existing prototype polished and integrated for
  testing.
 
 It would be absolutely lovely to get a bodhi-dev instance up on a cloud
 node running bodhi2 so we could see where we were and what needed to be
 worked on. 
 
 Perhaps we could get interested folks together in irc sometime soon and
 discuss plans/status? 

I'd certainly be up for that.

The thing I think would be most useful is just a lot more flexibility
over the karma definition: ideally the back end should be extremely
generic, a sort of set of possible conditions you can glue together any
way you like, and we'd provide some common 'templates' for use in
updates (and sensible defaults, of course). The Glorious Vision email
still pretty much holds true, I believe, if you can still find it (yell
if you can't, and I will).
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Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:52:23 +0100
poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Fedora 18 End of Life
 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2014-January/003194.html
 
 boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO):
 
 - Fedora-18-i386/x86_64
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_install.conf
 GOTO EOL
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_eol.conf
 
 - Fedora-18-i386/x86_64-rescue
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_rescue.conf
 GOTO NULL
 
 - Fedora-20-Alpha/Beta !?
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_prerelease.conf
 GOTO NULL
 
 - Fedora 15 TC1 i686 Live Desktop !?
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_live.conf
 GOTO NULL
 
 
 Be awesome after effects? :)

Can you please file a infrastructure ticket on this and I will get it
updated. 

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/newticket

Thanks. 

kevin


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Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-22 Thread drago01
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 10:36 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:43:47 -0700
 Luke Macken lmac...@redhat.com wrote:

  Unfortunately, bodhi has not had dedicated full-time development
  resources in a long time. Thankfully, I now have the cycles to put
  into new features, such as improving the feedback mechanisms.
 
  Many components of the Bodhi 2.0 vision are long-term, and rely on a
  plethora of other pieces to fall into place, such as
  python-fedora+fas-openid, koji+mash, taskotron, depcheck-mk-2, and so
  on. Other pieces of the puzzle can be implemented and deployed
  incrementally within the current tools now.
 
  My focus lately has been around the releng/infra side of the updates
  process, but for a feature that would make things 'immeasurably
  better' (even though I think it would actually be measurable :P), I'd
  be happy to shift gears to the QA/frontend side of things to help get
  it done sooner rather than later.
 
  As far as I can tell, you sent some ideas to a mailing list a few
  years ago about it, and then Mathieu started a prototype. I can't
  find any RFEs filed for it, so I'll create one and see what I can do
  about getting the existing prototype polished and integrated for
  testing.

 It would be absolutely lovely to get a bodhi-dev instance up on a cloud
 node running bodhi2 so we could see where we were and what needed to be
 worked on.

 Perhaps we could get interested folks together in irc sometime soon and
 discuss plans/status?

 I'd certainly be up for that.

 The thing I think would be most useful is just a lot more flexibility
 over the karma definition: ideally the back end should be extremely
 generic, a sort of set of possible conditions you can glue together any
 way you like, and we'd provide some common 'templates' for use in
 updates (and sensible defaults, of course). The Glorious Vision email
 still pretty much holds true, I believe, if you can still find it (yell
 if you can't, and I will).


While at it ... can it be less paranoid about who can edit updates please?
It is overly restrictive for no real reason.
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PSA: Multi language support in Ask Fedora

2014-01-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi

With the recent update of Ask Fedora (askbot 0.7.49) and working with the
local language communities, we have enabled support for Spanish, Brazilian
Portuguese,  Indonesian and Greek in

http://ask.fedoraproject.org

We will be happy to enable support for more languages.  If you are
interested, please refer to

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ask_fedora#Admins_and_Moderators

Thank you for your participation and do let me know if you have any
questions

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Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread poma
On 22.01.2014 21:03, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:52:23 +0100
 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com wrote:
 

 Fedora 18 End of Life
 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2014-January/003194.html

 boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO):

 - Fedora-18-i386/x86_64
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_install.conf
 GOTO EOL
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_eol.conf

 - Fedora-18-i386/x86_64-rescue
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_rescue.conf
 GOTO NULL

 - Fedora-20-Alpha/Beta !?
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_prerelease.conf
 GOTO NULL

 - Fedora 15 TC1 i686 Live Desktop !?
 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.cfg/fedora_live.conf
 GOTO NULL


 Be awesome after effects? :)
 
 Can you please file a infrastructure ticket on this and I will get it
 updated. 
 
 https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/newticket
 
 Thanks. 
 
 kevin
 
 
 

Error!

The following error(s) have occurred with your request:

username: 'poma' already exists. :)

Sorry, NoGO.


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Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2014/1/23 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:

 Can you please file a infrastructure ticket on this and I will get it
 updated.

Don't know what others think, but I personally prefer GitHub pull
requests because they are much simpler and don't involve any
interaction with stone age software like trac or various MTAs. Just
out of the curiosity why don't we mirror anything related to
Fedora-Infra at GitHub? We actually have a working Fedora-Infra
organisation here:

https://github.com/fedora-infra

Btw I'm also playing with BFO and would love to have a chance to
improve it. Unfortunately a lot of current projects still hosts on
Fedorahosting which is so awful that it should be better to abandon it
completely in favor of something much better (GitHub of self-hosted
GitLab instance maybe)

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Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 21:25 +0100, drago01 wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
  On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 10:36 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
  On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 12:43:47 -0700
  Luke Macken lmac...@redhat.com wrote:
 
   Unfortunately, bodhi has not had dedicated full-time development
   resources in a long time. Thankfully, I now have the cycles to put
   into new features, such as improving the feedback mechanisms.
  
   Many components of the Bodhi 2.0 vision are long-term, and rely on a
   plethora of other pieces to fall into place, such as
   python-fedora+fas-openid, koji+mash, taskotron, depcheck-mk-2, and so
   on. Other pieces of the puzzle can be implemented and deployed
   incrementally within the current tools now.
  
   My focus lately has been around the releng/infra side of the updates
   process, but for a feature that would make things 'immeasurably
   better' (even though I think it would actually be measurable :P), I'd
   be happy to shift gears to the QA/frontend side of things to help get
   it done sooner rather than later.
  
   As far as I can tell, you sent some ideas to a mailing list a few
   years ago about it, and then Mathieu started a prototype. I can't
   find any RFEs filed for it, so I'll create one and see what I can do
   about getting the existing prototype polished and integrated for
   testing.
 
  It would be absolutely lovely to get a bodhi-dev instance up on a cloud
  node running bodhi2 so we could see where we were and what needed to be
  worked on.
 
  Perhaps we could get interested folks together in irc sometime soon and
  discuss plans/status?
 
  I'd certainly be up for that.
 
  The thing I think would be most useful is just a lot more flexibility
  over the karma definition: ideally the back end should be extremely
  generic, a sort of set of possible conditions you can glue together any
  way you like, and we'd provide some common 'templates' for use in
  updates (and sensible defaults, of course). The Glorious Vision email
  still pretty much holds true, I believe, if you can still find it (yell
  if you can't, and I will).
 
 
 While at it ... can it be less paranoid about who can edit updates please?
 It is overly restrictive for no real reason.

Yeah, that's a real problem for teams working on multi-package updates,
it seems.
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Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-22 Thread Luke Macken
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 02:11:31PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 12:09:25PM +, Richard Hughes wrote:
  As the subject suggests, Fedora 22 will require applications to have a
  long description to be shown in the software center. We're introducing
  this change so that we can show a powerful application full of
  high-quality content, rather than what we have now which is a equal
  mixture of awesome and sadness.
 
 Has anyone looked at (or would it be interesting for someone to) integration
 with https://apps.fedoraproject.org/tagger/?

Richard already wrote a plugin :)

https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-software/blob/e80d751ae0768a8969ff52e1cfc29a692a79bda0/src/plugins/gs-plugin-fedora-tagger.c
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Re: Heads up; F22 will require applications to ship appdata to be listed in software center

2014-01-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 02:14:19PM -0700, Luke Macken wrote:
  Has anyone looked at (or would it be interesting for someone to) integration
  with https://apps.fedoraproject.org/tagger/?
 Richard already wrote a plugin :)
 https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-software/blob/e80d751ae0768a8969ff52e1cfc29a692a79bda0/src/plugins/gs-plugin-fedora-tagger.c

Clearly, an excellent idea, then. :)

But actually what I meant was whether it would be valuable for the tagger
app to _also_ let you add descriptions to applications which should have
appdata but don't. This is probably a less-good idea... I was just thinking
that since we have a program for user-created package metadata of one sort,
maybe it could also help here.


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Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:41:52 +0400
Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote:

 2014/1/23 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:
 
  Can you please file a infrastructure ticket on this and I will get
  it updated.
 
 Don't know what others think, but I personally prefer GitHub pull
 requests because they are much simpler and don't involve any
 interaction with stone age software like trac or various MTAs. Just
 out of the curiosity why don't we mirror anything related to
 Fedora-Infra at GitHub? We actually have a working Fedora-Infra
 organisation here:
 
 https://github.com/fedora-infra

While github is nice for pulls and patches, it's not so great for
tickets and support needs. 

github issues are very primitive last I looked and wouldn't meet Fedora
Infrastructures needs, IMHO. 

 Btw I'm also playing with BFO and would love to have a chance to
 improve it. Unfortunately a lot of current projects still hosts on
 Fedorahosting which is so awful that it should be better to abandon it
 completely in favor of something much better (GitHub of self-hosted
 GitLab instance maybe)

Sorry you feel that way. 

There was a google summer of code project to package up gitlab, but I
don't think it's complete. Additionally, gitlab != github. There's a
vast amount of difference between them. ;( 

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python-gevent updated to 1.0 in rawhide

2014-01-22 Thread Orion Poplawski
I've built python-gevent 1.0 in rawhide.  Apparently this is quite different
from the current 0.13.8, so if you have packages using it they may need 
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I'm planning on building this for EPEL7 as well - might as well start off with
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Re: LibRaw soname bump

2014-01-22 Thread Christopher Meng
Jon please don't rebuild oyranos, I'm working on this now.
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Re: Review swap: BZ#1055721 - qpid-dispatch

2014-01-22 Thread Christopher Meng
Swap with this one if you want:

stjerm - A roll-down, quake-like terminal emulator
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055915

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[perl-Module-Build-Tiny] Created tag perl-Module-Build-Tiny-0.034-1.fc21

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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File IO-Socket-SSL-1.966.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-IO-Socket-SSL:

af82b20feb6633f1a707d40dbbf7f590  IO-Socket-SSL-1.966.tar.gz
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[perl-IO-Socket-SSL] Update to 1.966

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 5821112cbb277c6fd66274fa5c7f6fbf405d3ae0
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Wed Jan 22 12:27:31 2014 +

Update to 1.966

- New upstream release 1.966
  - Fixed bug introduced in 1.964 - disabling TLSv1_2 no longer worked by
specifying !TLSv12; only !TLSv1_2 worked
  - Fixed leak of session objects in SessionCache, if another session
replaced an existing session (introduced in 1.965)

 perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec |9 -
 sources |2 +-
 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec b/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
index 7be72dd..e82f9a0 100644
--- a/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
+++ b/perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:  perl-IO-Socket-SSL
-Version:   1.965
+Version:   1.966
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Perl library for transparent SSL
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -71,6 +71,13 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %{_mandir}/man3/IO::Socket::SSL::Utils.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Jan 22 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.966-1
+- Update to 1.966
+  - Fixed bug introduced in 1.964 - disabling TLSv1_2 no longer worked by
+specifying !TLSv12; only !TLSv1_2 worked
+  - Fixed leak of session objects in SessionCache, if another session
+replaced an existing session (introduced in 1.965)
+
 * Fri Jan 17 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.965-1
 - Update to 1.965
   - New key SSL_session_key to influence how sessions are inserted and looked
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 77a86ee..e2cccd4 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-2091fbdefe070a5f074b36abe3894f50  IO-Socket-SSL-1.965.tar.gz
+af82b20feb6633f1a707d40dbbf7f590  IO-Socket-SSL-1.966.tar.gz
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[perl-IO-Socket-SSL] Created tag perl-IO-Socket-SSL-1.966-1.fc21

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-Test-Kwalitee] Update to 1.18

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 8821a20521b22fddebcf02d7403a5e8387dec886
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Wed Jan 22 12:43:25 2014 +

Update to 1.18

- New upstream release 1.18
  - Updated list of available metrics
- Bump perl(Module::Build::Tiny) version requirement to 0.034
- Package README.md

 perl-Test-Kwalitee.spec |   14 ++
 sources |2 +-
 2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Test-Kwalitee.spec b/perl-Test-Kwalitee.spec
index c2c2651..9de6f22 100644
--- a/perl-Test-Kwalitee.spec
+++ b/perl-Test-Kwalitee.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:  perl-Test-Kwalitee
-Version:   1.17
+Version:   1.18
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Test the Kwalitee of a distribution before you release it
 License:   GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ URL:http://metacpan.org/module/Test::Kwalitee
 Source0:   
http://cpan.metacpan.org/authors/id/E/ET/ETHER/Test-Kwalitee-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildArch: noarch
 # Build
-BuildRequires: perl(Module::Build::Tiny) = 0.030
+BuildRequires: perl(Module::Build::Tiny) = 0.034
 # Module
 BuildRequires: perl(Cwd)
 BuildRequires: perl(Dist::CheckConflicts) = 0.02
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ BuildRequires:perl(warnings)
 # Test Suite
 BuildRequires: perl(CPAN::Meta)
 BuildRequires: perl(CPAN::Meta::Requirements)
-BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
+BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) = 6.30
 BuildRequires: perl(File::Spec::Functions)
 BuildRequires: perl(File::Temp)
 BuildRequires: perl(lib)
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ chmod -c 755 %{buildroot}%{_bindir}/kwalitee-metrics
 ./Build test
 
 %files
-%doc Changes CONTRIBUTING LICENSE README
+%doc Changes CONTRIBUTING LICENSE README README.md
 %{_bindir}/kwalitee-metrics
 %{perl_vendorlib}/Test/
 %{_mandir}/man1/kwalitee-metrics.1*
@@ -62,6 +62,12 @@ chmod -c 755 %{buildroot}%{_bindir}/kwalitee-metrics
 %{_mandir}/man3/Test::Kwalitee::Conflicts.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Jan 22 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.18-1
+- Update to 1.18
+  - Updated list of available metrics
+- Bump perl(Module::Build::Tiny) version requirement to 0.034
+- Package README.md
+
 * Mon Oct 21 2013 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.17-1
 - Update to 1.17
   - Now printing even more diagnostics on error (as much as we have available)
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index ce0032f..fdb4d13 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-7e6c1f69251b27f671a77b5136e3ecc9  Test-Kwalitee-1.17.tar.gz
+c82ee309027c8e160e8c17e91eedac35  Test-Kwalitee-1.18.tar.gz
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[perl-Test-Kwalitee] Created tag perl-Test-Kwalitee-1.18-1.fc21

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-common-sense] Created tag perl-common-sense-3.6-4.el7

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[perl-Text-Reform/epel7] (3 commits) ...Fix bogus date in changelog

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  857e911... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
  fdc43d9... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*)
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[perl-Env-Sanctify] Created tag perl-Env-Sanctify-1.10-1.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-Data-Section-Simple/epel7] (2 commits) ...Update to 0.05

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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  2281da1... Use Module::Build::Tiny's new --create_packlist option (*)
  94208e4... Update to 0.05 (*)

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[perl-Pod-Tests] Created tag perl-Pod-Tests-1.19-12.el7

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[perl-Data-Section-Simple] Created tag perl-Data-Section-Simple-0.05-1.el7

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[perl-Devel-GlobalDestruction/epel7] (3 commits) ...Update to 0.12

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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  bba67c8... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
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[perl-DateTime-Calendar-Mayan] Created tag perl-DateTime-Calendar-Mayan-0.0601-13.el7

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[perl-Declare-Constraints-Simple] Created tag perl-Declare-Constraints-Simple-0.03-18.el7

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[perl-Devel-GlobalDestruction] Created tag perl-Devel-GlobalDestruction-0.12-1.el7

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[perl-SUPER] Created tag perl-SUPER-1.20120705-3.el7

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[perl-Params-Coerce] Created tag perl-Params-Coerce-0.14-15.el7

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[perl-Module-Info/epel7] (5 commits) ...Drop pointless in-place edit flag from perl filter invocation

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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  bb50ed7... Update to 0.34 (*)
  2d8b0f2... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
  47d01a8... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*)
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[perl-TeX-Hyphen/epel7] (3 commits) ...Update to 1.01

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Summary of changes:

  855cdc7... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
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[perl-Test-use-ok] Created tag perl-Test-use-ok-0.11-2.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-TeX-Hyphen] Created tag perl-TeX-Hyphen-1.01-1.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-Perl-Destruct-Level] Created tag perl-Perl-Destruct-Level-0.02-5.el7

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[perl-Module-Info] Created tag perl-Module-Info-0.35-2.el7

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[perl-Eval-Closure] Created tag perl-Eval-Closure-0.08-4.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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[perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon] Reflect Lingua::EN::Sentence having made it into Fedora.

2014-01-22 Thread corsepiu
commit c9c84d313523f6013a5cbea6c32533ae76d97b54
Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org
Date:   Wed Jan 22 15:18:41 2014 +0100

Reflect Lingua::EN::Sentence having made it into Fedora.

 perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec |7 +--
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec 
b/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec
index 31f6312..8b47633 100644
--- a/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec
+++ b/perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:  perl-Locale-Maketext-Lexicon
 Version:   0.97
-Release:   1%{?dist}
+Release:   2%{?dist}
 Summary:   Extract translatable strings from source
 License:   MIT
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -12,7 +12,7 @@ Requires:  perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} 
-V:version`; echo $version))
 
 BuildRequires: perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)  6.30
 BuildRequires:  perl(HTML::Parser) = 3.56
-# optional, not yet in Fedora: BuildRequires:  perl(Lingua::EN::Sentence) = 
0.25
+BuildRequires:  perl(Lingua::EN::Sentence) = 0.25
 BuildRequires:  perl(PPI) = 1.203
 BuildRequires:  perl(Template) = 2.20
 BuildRequires:  perl(Template::Constants) = 2.75
@@ -65,6 +65,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Wed Jan 22 2014 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.97-2
+- Reflect Lingua::EN::Sentence having made it into Fedora.
+
 * Fri Jan 17 2014 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 0.97-1
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 - Modernize spec-file.
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[perl-Test-CheckDeps/epel7] (6 commits) ...Update to 0.010

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  77b9b76... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
  4e1e545... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*)
  336073f... Skip the release tests when bootstrapping (*)
  5497432... Update to 0.007 (*)
  839e042... Update to 0.008 (*)
  970a1e5... Update to 0.010 (*)

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[perl-Test-CheckDeps] Created tag perl-Test-CheckDeps-0.010-1.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-CheckDeps-0.010-1.el7' was created pointing to:

 970a1e5... Update to 0.010
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Re: [perl-HTML-Tree/epel7] Retire - actually in RHEL

2014-01-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
Paul Howarth (p...@city-fan.org) said: 
 On 22/01/14 01:43, Bill Nottingham wrote:
  Summary of changes:
  
 8e17d38... Retire - actually in RHEL (*)
 
 Might the retirement process have blocked perl-HTML-Tree from being pulled in 
 from RHEL in koji? That's what it looks like from this scratch build:
 
 http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/9537/6439537/root.log

I think I've fixed this. Please test?

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[perl-Types-Serialiser/epel7] Update to 1.0

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  82c418f... Update to 1.0 (*)

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[perl-Types-Serialiser] Created tag perl-Types-Serialiser-1.0-1.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Types-Serialiser-1.0-1.el7' was created pointing to:

 82c418f... Update to 1.0
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[perl-Text-Autoformat/epel7] (3 commits) ...Update to 1.669004

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  bf41f64... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
  f57aa52... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*)
  c189a75... Update to 1.669004 (*)

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Re: [perl-HTML-Tree/epel7] Retire - actually in RHEL

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth

On 22/01/14 15:11, Bill Nottingham wrote:

Paul Howarth (p...@city-fan.org) said:

On 22/01/14 01:43, Bill Nottingham wrote:

Summary of changes:

8e17d38... Retire - actually in RHEL (*)


Might the retirement process have blocked perl-HTML-Tree from being pulled in 
from RHEL in koji? That's what it looks like from this scratch build:

http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/9537/6439537/root.log


I think I've fixed this. Please test?


Yes, it works now, thanks.

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=6440160

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[perl-Module-Refresh] Created tag perl-Module-Refresh-0.17-6.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Module-Refresh-0.17-6.el7' was created pointing to:

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[perl-Test-Valgrind/epel7] (4 commits) ...Update to 1.14

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  87dc894... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
  66b850c... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*)
  f8ce63c... Perl 5.18 re-rebuild of bootstrapped packages (*)
  55f5eb4... Update to 1.14 (*)

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[perl-Text-Autoformat] Created tag perl-Text-Autoformat-1.669004-1.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
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 c189a75... Update to 1.669004
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Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu

2014-01-22 Thread buildsys


perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu has broken dependencies in the rawhide 
tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
On i386:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
On armhfp:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2014-01-22 Thread buildsys


perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On i386:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
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On armhfp:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-qpid_proton

2014-01-22 Thread buildsys


perl-qpid_proton has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.x86_64 requires perl(qpid_proton)
perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.x86_64 requires 
perl(qpid::proton::ExceptionHandling)
On i386:
perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.i686 requires perl(qpid_proton)
perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.i686 requires 
perl(qpid::proton::ExceptionHandling)
On armhfp:
perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.armv7hl requires perl(qpid_proton)
perl-qpid_proton-0.6-1.fc21.armv7hl requires 
perl(qpid::proton::ExceptionHandling)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: mojomojo

2014-01-22 Thread buildsys


mojomojo has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
On i386:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
On armhfp:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
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[perl-Test-Valgrind] Created tag perl-Test-Valgrind-1.14-1.el7

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Test-Valgrind-1.14-1.el7' was created pointing to:

 55f5eb4... Update to 1.14
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[perl-JSON-XS/epel7] (4 commits) ...Update to 3.01

2014-01-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes:

  1d2d478... Update to 2.34 (*)
  0510172... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
  b8dfd9a... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*)
  4d6177d... Update to 3.01 (*)

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[Bug 1052859] Annoying dependency on Test::More

2014-01-22 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1052859

Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Plack-1.0030-3.fc20
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2014-01-22 18:01:24



--- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org ---
perl-Plack-1.0030-3.fc20 has been pushed to the Fedora 20 stable repository. 
If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

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[Bug 1056804] New: (possibly) branch for EPEL 7

2014-01-22 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1056804

Bug ID: 1056804
   Summary: (possibly) branch for EPEL 7
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
 Component: perl-HTML-Element-Extended
  Assignee: psab...@redhat.com
  Reporter: nott...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, psab...@redhat.com



Description of problem:

I need to build perl-HTML-TableExtract for EPEL 7.
It has a buildrequirement on perl-HTML-Element-Extended. (added as part of a
perl-sig update)

However, it doesn't have a runtime requirement on it, looking at current
builds. It also seems to build the same package when perl-HTML-Element-Extended
isn't installed.

So, we could just branch perl-HTML-Element-Extended for EPEL 7, so I can build
my package. But I'm curious whether it's really needed.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):

Looking at F20/devel packages

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Re: Git repos location

2014-01-22 Thread Alexander Todorov

На 22.01.2014 10:42, Kamil Paral написа:

Phabricator is capable of hosting repositories but it would require
some reconfiguration and testing. The feature is a newer addition and
I'd want to test it a bit in staging before moving all of our code
there.

Any thoughts on how soon we might want to explore this? If we go this
route, folks will have to upload their ssh pubkeys to phabricator
because I strongly suspect there's no clean way of getting that data
from FAS (if it's even possible at all).


I'd like to have a single location for our projects. If we consider abandoning 
bitbucket, let's do it ASAP, while we're not followed there yet by many people.

I see you've set up an example repo (in mirror mode) already:
https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/diffusion/LTRN/

I don't use git web interface much, apart for community fork-me/follow features we don't 
have there anyway, so I'm not very demanding. The interface looks usable. But what's up 
with those commit hashes - rLTRNda6fd348cdf3. Why does it have the rLTRN 
prefix? What is the Callsign?


Hi guys,
a side note on the subject of migrating git repos:

BitBucket and GitHub are nice systems because of their fork/pull interface. This 
makes it very easy for collaborators to join, even if not very well experienced 
with git. GitHub here IMO has a leading edge because more people use it and is 
simply more popular. I myself prefer it.



I've also seen some projects use Gerrit for code review which for me as an 
experienced contributor always seems difficult to get. I always have to go back 
to the README b/c I forget how to push my changes for review - which is more or 
less the same as a pull request.



For some projects we also have fedorahosted.org which AFAIK is only command line 
based.



The above mentioned Phabricator doesn't seem to offer much in terms of easy 
contributor onboarding. At least I didn't see it.



I know these systems are designed to fit different teams and use cases and can't 
be compared so easily. My point is, when migrating look for a system with a 
clean and easy to use interface (preferably web as well) which will enable more 
contributors and less experienced contributors.


Can we look for a GitHub similar open source interface which can be hosted on 
Fedora infrastructure if we don't want to have our code base hosted on external 
providers ?



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phab: auth providers

2014-01-22 Thread Martin Krizek
I wonder if we should enable authentication through providers like GitHub 
instead of just username/password (and FAS in the future). This would make it 
easier for non-fas users to report bugs or contribute to the project. I also 
noticed that anonymous access to view tickets is possible but one need to know 
the link, is there a way to fix this?

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
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Re: phab: auth providers

2014-01-22 Thread Martin Krizek
Link might be helpful: 
http://www.phabricator.com/docs/phabricator/article/Configuring_Accounts_and_Registration.html

- Original Message -
 From: Martin Krizek mkri...@redhat.com
 To: Fedora QA Development qa-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2014 3:01:21 PM
 Subject: phab: auth providers
 
 I wonder if we should enable authentication through providers like GitHub
 instead of just username/password (and FAS in the future). This would make
 it easier for non-fas users to report bugs or contribute to the project. I
 also noticed that anonymous access to view tickets is possible but one need
 to know the link, is there a way to fix this?
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: phab: auth providers

2014-01-22 Thread Tim Flink
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:01:21 -0500 (EST)
Martin Krizek mkri...@redhat.com wrote:

 I wonder if we should enable authentication through providers like
 GitHub instead of just username/password (and FAS in the future).
 This would make it easier for non-fas users to report bugs or
 contribute to the project.

The problem with doing this is usernames. If we allow multiple auth
mechanisms, how do we know which users came from where? How do we
handle username collisions when someone from github takes another
person's FAS username?

 I also noticed that anonymous access to
 view tickets is possible but one need to know the link, is there a
 way to fix this?

As far as I know, anonymous access is possible to most of phabricator.
The notable exceptions are to the landing page and the wiki (but there
has been discussion upstream on whether to change that last part).

Tickets are discover-able anonymously by using the Maniphest app:
https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/maniphest/

Tim


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Re: Git repos location

2014-01-22 Thread Tim Flink
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 08:57:53 -0700
Tim Flink tfl...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 03:42:51 -0500 (EST)
 Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com wrote:
 
   Phabricator is capable of hosting repositories but it would
   require some reconfiguration and testing. The feature is a newer
   addition and I'd want to test it a bit in staging before moving
   all of our code there.
   
   Any thoughts on how soon we might want to explore this? If we go
   this route, folks will have to upload their ssh pubkeys to
   phabricator because I strongly suspect there's no clean way of
   getting that data from FAS (if it's even possible at all).
  
  I'd like to have a single location for our projects. If we consider
  abandoning bitbucket, let's do it ASAP, while we're not followed
  there yet by many people.
 
 As I've been thinking about it more, my primary concern for using
 phabricator for git hosting is that we'd be self-hosting with a
 relatively new feature.
 
 I'll see if I can get it working in stg today, though. I'm not willing
 to just enable it on production and see what happens but we can
 explore the idea.

It took a bit longer than I wanted it to but I got git repo hosting
working on qadevel-stg and re-populated it with a copy of the
production database (changed the header color to make it obvious which
instance it is, though).

https://phab.qadevel-stg.cloud.fedoraproject.org/

The hosting does work over ssh, but I'm noticing some quirks
 - the ssh urls are displayed incorrectly. This may be fixed in the
   latest upstream (the version we're using is several weeks old) but
   I haven't checked yet. For the dummy repo I created:
   * shown:
  ssh://phab.qadevel-stg.cloud.fedoraproject.org/diffusion/PON/
   * actual thing to clone if you want it to succeed:
  g...@phab.qadevel-stg.cloud.fedoraproject.org:diffusion/PON

 - http hosting doesn't work yet. I have some more tweaking to do in
   order to get that functional but it's do-able

 - The repo names are ... weird. I understand why they end up like they
   do, but I was hoping the uris would contain the repo name, not the
   callsign.

The setup is pretty straightforward and doesn't really mess with the
git hosting itself - just injects phabricator into the ssh auth
mechanism in a similar way to how gitolite works. If we did
decide to go this route for code hosting and something did go
horribly wrong, we have backups of the raw repos and it would be
pretty easy to resurrect them outside of phabricator.

Another feature that I haven't looked at much is mirroring - you can
configure repos to push commits to a remote repository. The advantage
here is that we could have the canonical upstream under our control and
have bitbucket/github mirrors that other folks could use to create
diffs from.

Anyhow, feel free to poke at it and leave thoughts.

Tim


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Making Phabricator More Public-Friendly

2014-01-22 Thread Tim Flink
After a conversation with Kamil earlier today, I started looking into
making our phabricator instance a bit more public friendly.

Blender's instance is a good example of what I'd like to see ours do in
terms of sidebar configuration and public landing page:

https://developer.blender.org/

The awesome part is that the blender folks keep their modifications in
a public repo as a branch of the upstream phabricator code, so figuring
out how they got it to work is possible :)

I was able to get the root uri display a similar page as what a logged
in user can see:

https://phab.qadevel-stg.cloud.fedoraproject.org/

It does require hacking on the code and as near as I can tell, the
changes can't be done as an extension. The changes are pretty sane,
though so I'll start a conversation with upstream on whether they'd be
interested in a patch.

Changing the sidebar layout, however, is a different story. The
placement logic uses metadata in the code to determine where the icons
are placed and how big they are. This is great from a dev point of view
because you don't need any crazy logic for layout or need to update it
all the time. Not so much if you want to change the default layout,
though.

If we want to change the default layout, I see 3 options:

1. maintain an out-of-band patch that either changes the application
   metadata so that the display works how we want or change the display
   logic so that it works differently.

This is how the blender instance is set up - they changed the
metadata in applications so that they would be rendered differently
from the defaults. Not the prettiest thing ever but reasonably
maintainable and effective. I suspect this would cause problems
with any custom layouts that folks set, though.


2. hack a hard-coded default into the display logic, overriding the
   current logic-based defaults.

This should allow for users to customize the sidebar as they want
while not being a terrible hack. It would require more work and a
decent understanding of the codebase, though. I also suspect that
maintenance would be a bit more difficult.


3. Work with upstream (if they're interested) on a way to set a default
   layout for the sidebar.

This would be quite a bit of work, assuming that upstream would
even be interested in the functionality. It would be most likely to
not cause maintenance headaches in the future, though.


If we're going to change the sidebar layout, I'm of the opinion that
option 1 is the best for us, for now. We're already on a tight deadline
and I don't want to spend too much more time hacking on support tools
right now. FAS auth integration is already going to take some work, so
there's that task for the near future as well but phabricator already
has persona auth support and I'm not expecting that task to be terrible.

Thoughts?

Tim


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