Elliott Sales de Andrade (qulogic) is now in python{,-packagers}-sig

2018-10-05 Thread Miro Hrončok

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Fedora 29 compose report: 20181005.n.0 changes

2018-10-05 Thread Fedora Branched Report
OLD: Fedora-29-20181002.n.0
NEW: Fedora-29-20181005.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:1
Dropped images:  0
Added packages:  6
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   158
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  18.21 MiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   2.89 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   23.06 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: Container_Minimal_Base docker s390x
Path: 
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= DROPPED PACKAGES =

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Changelog:
  * Tue Sep 04 2018 Arun S A G  - 3.0-10
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PackageKit-gtk3-module
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Changelog:
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  * Tue Sep 25 2018 Richard Hughes  - 1.1.11-1
  - New upstream release
  - Add --autoremove option to pkcon
  - De-register callbacks on PkClientHelper finalize
  - Don't complain if command-not-found get uninstalled while running
  - Never assert when an interactive TTY is not available
  - Shut down services cleanly before rebooting after offline updates
  - Shutdown the daemon on idle by default


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Changelog:
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1.11.6-1
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  - Update to latest version


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Changelog:
  * Sat Sep 22 2018 Elliott Sales de Andrade  - 
0.12.3-1
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Changelog:
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Changelog:
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1.0.1-1
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Changelog:
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0.2.1-3
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 29 Branched 20181005.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2018-10-05 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event
for Fedora 29 Branched 20181005.n.0. Please help run some tests for this
nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly
release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Notable package version changes:
python-blivet - 20180923.n.0: python-blivet-3.1.0-2.fc29.src, 20181005.n.0: 
python-blivet-3.1.1-1.fc29.src

Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/29

You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
locations, and enter results on the Summary page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181005.n.0_Summary

The individual test result pages are:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181005.n.0_Installation
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181005.n.0_Base
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181005.n.0_Server
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181005.n.0_Cloud
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181005.n.0_Desktop
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_29_Branched_20181005.n.0_Security_Lab

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Re: Recent openQA test failures

2018-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-10-05 at 13:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> Two, the upgrade_realmd_client test seems to fail every time lately,
> like this:
> 
> https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/288372#step/upgrade_run/19
> 
> it's failing while trying to upgrade the system, at a step where it
> tries to install some packages, because the 'fedora-modular' repo
> cannot be synchronized.

It seems this was actually happening because FreeIPA wasn't coming up
correctly on the server after upgrade, and the tests don't actually
*notice* that directly in the upgrade test case - after reboot of the
upgraded system, we just sorta assume everything's working fine. So it
got exposed in a non-obvious way (something on a client test failing
because bind isn't running on the server).

FreeIPA isn't coming up after upgrade because the F28 stable freeipa
got ahead of the F29 stable freeipa, and that causes FreeIPA's upgrade
script to break (it never expects to go from a higher to a lower
version and bails if it's asked to do that). I've pushed the F29 update
stable now to resolve this.

I've written an enhancement to the openQA test to make it hopefully
explicitly catch the case where FreeIPA doesn't come up properly on
upgrade, but unfortunately I now can't test *that* because of a
*different* bug which causes the upgrade process itself to fail:
another case where an F28 package got ahead of F29, libxcrypt.
libxcrypt-4.2.1-3.fc28 went stable ahead of libxcrypt-4.2.1-3.fc29 -
both have been submitted for stable, but the F28 package reached the
f28 stable update repo before a new F29 compose got done with the F29
update in it, and files in 4.2.1 conflict with the 4.1.2 that is still
currently in the F29 compose that's on the mirrors. This should
hopefully be resolved once the compose that's running at present
completes...

Moral of the story...we really should go back to gating on the
upgradepath test...:P
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Recent openQA test failures

2018-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks!

If anyone's looking at openQA results for their updates, you may have
noticed odd failures for several tests for updates submitted in the
last day or so.

It seems that all runs of tests that communicate with each other have
been failing on production openQA since the infra reboot that happened
recently, because a key openQA service did not come up properly when
the server was rebooted. All these failures are spurious and can be
safely ignored. I've just restarted the service in question and
rescheduled all the failed tests, but it will take some time for openQA
to chew through them all (we only have 14 workers, and these tests are
some of the slowest, unfortunately).

While I'm on the line, there are a couple of other cases where tests
are failing that I know about but haven't managed to look into in
detail yet.

One, the desktop_update_graphical test sometimes fails because, it
seems, GNOME Software / PackageKit fail to properly retrieve the
available updates and see the one that should be present (the test
tries to make sure an update is definitely available before hitting
GNOME Software's "refresh" button). This seems to be a "sometimes
works, sometimes fails" kinda thing, it fails about half the time on
F27 and F28, it seems to never fail this way on F29 (so I guess some
kinda bug got fixed there; there is probably a genuine bug in libdnf or
PackageKit or something causing this, and we should find that and fix
it, but it's not a bug in *your* update).

Two, the upgrade_realmd_client test seems to fail every time lately,
like this:

https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/288372#step/upgrade_run/19

it's failing while trying to upgrade the system, at a step where it
tries to install some packages, because the 'fedora-modular' repo
cannot be synchronized.

So, if you see any of the failures discussed here for your update, they
are not caused by your update and can be ignored. Sorry for the
inconvenience, and I'll try to improve the reliability of the two
problematic tests ASAP.
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Re: raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

2018-10-05 Thread Laura Abbott

On 10/05/2018 11:03 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:

On Fr, 05.10.18 19:31, Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com) wrote:


(cross-posting to devel and desktop lists, ideally reply to both)


Coincidentally, at All Systems Go! in Berlin last week I had some
discussions with kernel people about RLIMIT_NOFILE defaults. They
basically suggested that the memory and performance cost of large
numbers of fds on current kernels is cheap, and that we should bump
the hard limit in systemd for all userspace processes.

I have thus prepared this a few days ago:

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/10244

This should have the effect on systemd systems that do not patch
around in RLIMIT_NOFILE otherwise that the new default hard limit for
all userspace is 256K (though the soft limit remains at 1K, for compat
with select()). AFAIK Fedora doesn't override RLIMIT_NOFILE
artificially, hence these new systemd upstream defaults should trickle
down to Fedora too.



I was asked about the file limit for SteamProton a few months ago
and I mentioned asking about policy limits publicly for a discussion.
It's good to know that the cost is relatively low and we can
increase the default in systemd.

Thanks,
Laura
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Re: raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

2018-10-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 05.10.18 12:28, Nicholas Miell (nmi...@gmail.com) wrote:

> >> This is not quite the 1M you appear to ask for though… I picked 256K
> >> mostly because I wanted to stay lower than the kernel built-in max
> >> (which is 1M, i.e. /proc/sys/fs/nr_open), and needed to pick
> >> something. Do you have any particular reason to prefer 1M over 256K? I
> >> am completely open to suggestions there...
> > 
> > The upstream esync branch requests setting the hard limit to 1M.
> > 
> > https://github.com/zfigura/wine/blob/esync/README.esync
> > 
> > I haven't torn apart the project to see if 1M is really necessary so a
> > different limit may be up for discussion.
> 
> esync uses eventfd to reduce IPC to wineserver when emulating Windows
> kernel objects, the exact number of eventfds needed depends entirely on
> the behavior of the Windows application you are running.

So, any idea why they picked 1M? Are there typical apps that require
really that many?

I mean, it could be two things:

1) yes, they ran into real-life apps that require 500K fds and hence
   set the limit to 1M since they can't set it any higher anyway, and
   it's far away from (i.e. double of) 500K.

2) no, they didn't run into real-life apps like this, but didn't want
   to figure out what a good limit is, hence they set it to the
   kernel's built-in maximum of 1M.

If it's #1 then I figure we should bump the systemd upstream to 1M
too. If it's #2, then I figure we can start with 256K as my PR
currently does, for now.

Lennart

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Re: many legit devel@ emails marked as spam by gmail (dmarc reject)

2018-10-05 Thread Todd Zullinger
Chris Murphy wrote:
> Semi-related to the "Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML"
> thread; anyone *not* using gmail (e.g. all Yahoo email users) are
> having their emails put into spam by google mail.
> 
> 
>>This message has a from address in yahoo.co.uk but has failed yahoo.co.uk's 
>>required tests for authentication.  Learn more
> 
> And from the headers:
> 
> smtp.mailfrom=test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org;
>dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=QUARANTINE) header.from=yahoo.co.uk
> 
> 
> And from yahoo's help.
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN24050.html
> 
> The result of the reject policy set by yahoo (and others), and that
> gmail is one of the few mail hosting companies that honors p=reject,
> is that such emails end up in gmail spam, and no amount of training or
> filtering will fix it. And this is a silent failure. I have many
> emails in spam by Fedora Project users (not just devel@).

On the users list we enabled Mailman's DMARC mitigations
several months ago.  That has allowed posts from users
@yahoo and other domains with strict DMARC settings to reach
list subscribers @gmail and other domains which honor those
DMARC settings.

It may be worthwhile to enable those Mailman mitigations for
all project lists by default (allowing lists who may not
want it to disable the settings).

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Re: raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

2018-10-05 Thread Nicholas Miell
On 10/5/18 11:55 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> First off, thanks, Kamil, for starting this discussion. I've been
> meaning to bring it up.
> 
> On 10/5/18 1:03 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> [snip]
>> This is not quite the 1M you appear to ask for though… I picked 256K
>> mostly because I wanted to stay lower than the kernel built-in max
>> (which is 1M, i.e. /proc/sys/fs/nr_open), and needed to pick
>> something. Do you have any particular reason to prefer 1M over 256K? I
>> am completely open to suggestions there...
> 
> The upstream esync branch requests setting the hard limit to 1M.
> 
> https://github.com/zfigura/wine/blob/esync/README.esync
> 
> I haven't torn apart the project to see if 1M is really necessary so a
> different limit may be up for discussion.
> 

esync uses eventfd to reduce IPC to wineserver when emulating Windows
kernel objects, the exact number of eventfds needed depends entirely on
the behavior of the Windows application you are running.
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Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

2018-10-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 08:25:21PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> I'm more worried how these forums exclude commercial contributors.  Rust
> has the same NC terms.  How is this supposed to work for projects which
> are not exclusively run and used by hobbyists?  How do you incorporate
> material that is posted to the forum into free software, when the terms
> clearly state that you cannot do this?

It looks like Foreman hasn't updated the software's boilerplate terms of
service, which puts user content under CC BY-NA-SA.

For the Fedora instance, we've changed that whole long page to a much
simpler statement that

1. Participants are bound by the Fedora Code of Conduct, and

2. User contributions need to be under an acceptable-for-Fedora license,
   with the normal Fedora content license (which is CC BY-SA 3.0) by
   default.

(See https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/tos)

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Re: raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

2018-10-05 Thread Michael Cronenworth
First off, thanks, Kamil, for starting this discussion. I've been meaning to bring 
it up.


On 10/5/18 1:03 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
[snip]

This is not quite the 1M you appear to ask for though… I picked 256K
mostly because I wanted to stay lower than the kernel built-in max
(which is 1M, i.e. /proc/sys/fs/nr_open), and needed to pick
something. Do you have any particular reason to prefer 1M over 256K? I
am completely open to suggestions there...


The upstream esync branch requests setting the hard limit to 1M.

https://github.com/zfigura/wine/blob/esync/README.esync

I haven't torn apart the project to see if 1M is really necessary so a different 
limit may be up for discussion.


Regards,
Michael
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Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

2018-10-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Matthew Miller:

> The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this way,
> and https://theforeman.org/2018/07/discourse-6-months-on-impact-assesment.html
> is really interesting and helpful read on the topic for those who might have
> some ... trepidation.

I'm more worried how these forums exclude commercial contributors.  Rust
has the same NC terms.  How is this supposed to work for projects which
are not exclusively run and used by hobbyists?  How do you incorporate
material that is posted to the forum into free software, when the terms
clearly state that you cannot do this?

Thanks,
Florian
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Re: many legit devel@ emails marked as spam by gmail (dmarc reject)

2018-10-05 Thread Philip Rhoades

Chris,


On 2018-10-06 04:10, Chris Murphy wrote:

Semi-related to the "Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML"
thread; anyone *not* using gmail (e.g. all Yahoo email users) are
having their emails put into spam by google mail.



Not only that but I have had cases where the mails are silently dropped 
too - the situation doesn't happen often and when it does I am mostly 
not in a position to ask the recipients to help me debug - but for at 
least a couple of cases where people were helpful:


- I could see from my QMail logs that the mail reached the Google server

- It was nowhere to be found in the recipient's account

- The mail was never bounced back

Regards,

Phil.


This message has a from address in yahoo.co.uk but has failed 
yahoo.co.uk's required tests for authentication.  Learn more


And from the headers:

smtp.mailfrom=test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org;
   dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=QUARANTINE) 
header.from=yahoo.co.uk



And from yahoo's help.
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN24050.html

The result of the reject policy set by yahoo (and others), and that
gmail is one of the few mail hosting companies that honors p=reject,
is that such emails end up in gmail spam, and no amount of training or
filtering will fix it. And this is a silent failure. I have many
emails in spam by Fedora Project users (not just devel@).


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[Bug 1635278] Upgrade perl-Glib to 1.328

2018-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1635278

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Glib-1.328-1.fc29 has been pushed to the Fedora 29 testing repository. If
problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2018-749dd12c7a

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many legit devel@ emails marked as spam by gmail (dmarc reject)

2018-10-05 Thread Chris Murphy
Semi-related to the "Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML"
thread; anyone *not* using gmail (e.g. all Yahoo email users) are
having their emails put into spam by google mail.


>This message has a from address in yahoo.co.uk but has failed yahoo.co.uk's 
>required tests for authentication.  Learn more

And from the headers:

smtp.mailfrom=test-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org;
   dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=QUARANTINE) header.from=yahoo.co.uk


And from yahoo's help.
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN24050.html

The result of the reject policy set by yahoo (and others), and that
gmail is one of the few mail hosting companies that honors p=reject,
is that such emails end up in gmail spam, and no amount of training or
filtering will fix it. And this is a silent failure. I have many
emails in spam by Fedora Project users (not just devel@).


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Re: raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

2018-10-05 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fr, 05.10.18 19:31, Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com) wrote:

> (cross-posting to devel and desktop lists, ideally reply to both)

Coincidentally, at All Systems Go! in Berlin last week I had some
discussions with kernel people about RLIMIT_NOFILE defaults. They
basically suggested that the memory and performance cost of large
numbers of fds on current kernels is cheap, and that we should bump
the hard limit in systemd for all userspace processes.

I have thus prepared this a few days ago:

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/10244

This should have the effect on systemd systems that do not patch
around in RLIMIT_NOFILE otherwise that the new default hard limit for
all userspace is 256K (though the soft limit remains at 1K, for compat
with select()). AFAIK Fedora doesn't override RLIMIT_NOFILE
artificially, hence these new systemd upstream defaults should trickle
down to Fedora too.

This is not quite the 1M you appear to ask for though… I picked 256K
mostly because I wanted to stay lower than the kernel built-in max
(which is 1M, i.e. /proc/sys/fs/nr_open), and needed to pick
something. Do you have any particular reason to prefer 1M over 256K? I
am completely open to suggestions there...

Lennart

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Re: raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

2018-10-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 11:31 AM, Kamil Paral  wrote:
> (cross-posting to devel and desktop lists, ideally reply to both)

> Debian and Ubuntu:
> I've installed both Debian (Sid) and Ubuntu (18.10) to verify this, and can
> confirm it. The default soft limit stays the same (1024), but the hard limit
> is increased from 4096 to 1048576 (2^20). However, this only applies to the
> systemd's system instance (systemd --system, PID 1), and not to systemd user
> instances (systemd --user).

It seems uncontroversial to at least raise it to 65535, about an order
magnitude, rather than three. And apply it to both system and user
instances.



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Re: Attempting to contact unresponsive maintainers:

2018-10-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 10/5/18 10:13 AM, Jan Koscielniak wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>> jkosciel:
>>
>> conu [product: Fedora EPEL]
>> conu [product: Fedora]
> 
> I had already given my project to my co-maintainers on tuesday. I have 
> changed my FAS email adress to this one. Thank you for your concern.

Ah, sorry I missed that... and thanks very much for the reply!

kevin



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Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

2018-10-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matthew Miller
 wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 02:02:46AM +0100, Andrew Clayton wrote:
>> Adam Williamson  wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 17:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> > > The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline 
>> > > replies.
>> > > Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
>> > > lists.
>> > ...like this one. ;)
>> His email was from mutt as well! I guess fedora-devel just isn't
>> old-school enough :(
>
> Okay, I admit to some level of trolling there. :)
>
> My point, though, is that I don't think we can afford to be exclusively
> old-school to the point where it makes a significant barrier to entry.

I agree.

And I think this needs rephrasing since forever:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Place each part of your reply after the text it addresses (i.e., NO
Top-Posting, please see "Wikipedia - Top Posting" and links therein
for more on this).

It's one thing to state a preference for bottom posting, and why. But
the present guidelines encourage people to flip out whenever there's a
top post.


> Top-posting isn't just an annoying Gmail thing; it's a whole different
> approach to using email for conversations. And, yeah, it *is* a much worse
> one than our old-school threaded, minimal-quoting, usenet-inspired style.
> That's why the general trend is *away* from email.

For all the faults of gmail, one thing I like is being able to search
lists within gmail.


>
> The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this way,
> and https://theforeman.org/2018/07/discourse-6-months-on-impact-assesment.html
> is really interesting and helpful read on the topic for those who might have
> some ... trepidation.
>
> I'm not sayin' we are ready to shut this list down, but it's honestly worth
> considering if a different approach will be more effective.

Far worse would be fragmented list/forums resulting from mutually
exclusive venues. It's probably a joke and not worth the effort to
have automagic behind the scenes cross posting between discourse
forums and hyperkitty (email) lists.

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raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

2018-10-05 Thread Kamil Paral
(cross-posting to devel and desktop lists, ideally reply to both)

Hello,

this is a request for feedback regarding adjusting process limits to make
Steam/Wine work better on Fedora.

*A quick background:*
In August Valve announced [1] Proton [2], their own fork of Wine, to get
included in their Steam Play functionality, and allowing Linux players to
run Windows-only games transparently from Steam without any complex
configuration, just with a press of a button. Not everything works of
course, but the success rate is more than decent [3]. As far as I can tell,
the reception by Linux gamers has been *very* enthusiastic.

*The technical details:*
In order to boost performance, Valve included DXVK [4] which converts
DirectX calls to Vulkan (instead of OpenGL in vanilla Wine), and esync [5],
an existing wine patchset that performs process synchronization in a more
efficient manner than vanilla Wine, using file descriptors. You can read
the linked readme for full explanation.

The esync patchset is the main subject of this email. It uses a lot of file
descriptors and the default kernel limits are not sufficient for many
games. Valve notes that in their requirements document (under "FD LIMIT
REQUIREMENTS") [6] and it is further described in the esync readme [5]. The
documents also say that Debian and its derivatives like Ubuntu have already
raised the limit on open file descriptors, so those distributions work out
of the box with esync. Fedora is one of those that doesn't. I wonder if we
can consider changing that.

*Debian and Ubuntu:*
I've installed both Debian (Sid) and Ubuntu (18.10) to verify this, and can
confirm it. The default soft limit stays the same (1024), but the hard
limit is increased from 4096 to 1048576 (2^20). However, this only applies
to the systemd's system instance (systemd --system, PID 1), and not to
systemd user instances (systemd --user). Most of the apps you start in your
session are children of gnome-shell, which doesn't run under the systemd
user instance, so the higher limits apply for them as well (including
Steam). However some apps (probably started via dbus, I'm not really sure,
but importantly this includes also gnome-terminal) are started as children
of the systemd user instance and therefore have the original low limits
applied. I don't know whether this is intentional or just an omission. I
tried really hard to find the place where Debian/Ubuntu patches the
upstream limits, so that I could read some justification/explanation of the
change, but I wasn't able to find it (I searched the available patches for
kernel, systemd and pam).

*Configuring the limits:*
You can display the soft+hard limits of your current terminal using ulimit:
$ ulimit -Sn
1024
$ ulimit -Hn
4096
However, note that gnome-terminal runs under the systemd user session, so
at least in Debian/Ubuntu this will not see higher limits (i.e. neither
will Steam started from the terminal).

You can also use prlimit to see the limits of any running process. You can
use this to check limits of the systemd system instance, systemd user
instance, running Steam, etc.
$ sudo prlimit --nofile --pid 1
RESOURCE DESCRIPTION SOFTHARD UNITS
NOFILE   max number of open files 1048576 1048576 files

You can modify the limits on the fly like this:
$ sudo prlimit --nofile=1024:1048576 --pid PID

You can increase the default limits by editing /etc/systemd/system.conf
(and /etc/systemd/user.conf, if you want to edit systemd user session as
well) and setting:
DefaultLimitNOFILE=1024:1048576

Alternatively, you can drop a file like this:
[Manager]
DefaultLimitNOFILE=1024:1048576
into /etc/systemd/system.conf.d/ (and /etc/systemd/user.conf.d/).

*Default limits in Fedora:*
>From a technical point of view I'm not able to judge whether raising the
fileno limits by default is a trivial change or something with important
security implications. That's why I'm writing this email to hopefully get
replies from more knowledgeable people. The fact that Debian raised the
limits gives me hope we could do the same in Fedora (perhaps just in
Workstation, if the change in not welcome in the whole distribution). If
somebody can find the justification of Debian devs, that would be great.
I'd very much like to see Fedora (Workstation) being a good choice for
Linux gamers (we already packaged gamemode), and this might be an important
step to make sure Steam games don't work worse than on Ubuntu (but
hopefully even better, due to our more recent drivers).

Thanks for your feedback.


[1]
https://steamcommunity.com/games/221410/announcements/detail/1696055855739350561
[2] https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton
[3] https://spcr.netlify.com
[4] https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk
[5] https://github.com/zfigura/wine/blob/esync/README.esync
[6]
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/blob/proton_3.7/PREREQS.md#fd-limit-requirements
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Re: Attempting to contact unresponsive maintainers:

2018-10-05 Thread Jan Koscielniak
Hi,

> jkosciel:
> 
> conu [product: Fedora EPEL]
> conu [product: Fedora]

I had already given my project to my co-maintainers on tuesday. I have changed 
my FAS email adress to this one. Thank you for your concern.

Jan Koscielniak 
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Re: Problem with mock --forcearch=s390x

2018-10-05 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 2:53 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> You could --copyin the rpms and use rpm --noscripts (in mock shell) to
> install them. Not sure if it would function later, but should avoid the
> scriptlet being run.

Hmm, okay, I can give that a try.  Thanks for the suggestion.
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Re: What to do about sagemath

2018-10-05 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 2:48 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> How can I help with the python3 transition?

Thanks for the offer, Miro.  I don't know yet.  I know that I'm going
to have to make the build continue in spite of doctest failures.
There are still quite a few of those.  I'll try to work through the
issues this weekend.  If something pops up that you can help with, I
will let you know.

/me crosses fingers and hopes that upstream continues making good
progress on the python 3 transition.

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Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

2018-10-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 02:02:46AM +0100, Andrew Clayton wrote:
> Adam Williamson  wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 17:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline 
> > > replies.
> > > Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
> > > lists.  
> > ...like this one. ;)
> His email was from mutt as well! I guess fedora-devel just isn't
> old-school enough :(

Okay, I admit to some level of trolling there. :) 

My point, though, is that I don't think we can afford to be exclusively
old-school to the point where it makes a significant barrier to entry. A few
years ago, I think the landscape was different. As more young people come to
the project with a new perspective on online communication, we should look
at how _our_ practices should evolve.

Top-posting isn't just an annoying Gmail thing; it's a whole different
approach to using email for conversations. And, yeah, it *is* a much worse
one than our old-school threaded, minimal-quoting, usenet-inspired style.
That's why the general trend is *away* from email.

The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this way,
and https://theforeman.org/2018/07/discourse-6-months-on-impact-assesment.html
is really interesting and helpful read on the topic for those who might have
some ... trepidation.

I'm not sayin' we are ready to shut this list down, but it's honestly worth
considering if a different approach will be more effective.

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[Bug 1632347] perl-MooseX-Getopt-0.74 is available

2018-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1632347

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-MooseX-Getopt-0.74-1.f
   ||c29
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2018-10-05 12:02:42



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-MooseX-Getopt-0.74-1.fc29 has been pushed to the Fedora 29 stable
repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.

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Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-10-05 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet  
wrote:

Ok, I can help with the debugging if needed. I just didn't know what
stack this was built on. Let me know if/what you'd like me to do.


Honestly I have no clue since the code seems foolproof. A bug report at 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib-networking/issues would be a good 
place to start so we can get it onto some bugtracker, at least.
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Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-10-05 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Fri, 2018-10-05 at 17:14 +0200, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet <
> nathan...@gnat.ca> wrote:
> > Ok, so should I be filing a bug and if so against which component?
> > I
> > wasn't sure if the google online accounts part of GNOME used GnuTLS
> > or
> > not.
> 
> It uses glib-networking, which does use GnuTLS. glib-networking
> already enables SNI (off the top of my head, in
> GTlsClientConnectionGnutls.c), so some further debugging is going to
> be required here to see if indeed it's true that the SNI extension is
> not being sent for some reason.

Ok, I can help with the debugging if needed. I just didn't know what
stack this was built on. Let me know if/what you'd like me to do.

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Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

2018-10-05 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 11:11 AM Matthew Miller  wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:27:02PM -, Ray Strode wrote:
> > Why switch, when we already have
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> > ? it does good quoting already, you get to click what you want, and i'm
> > guessing this reply i'm sending will show up plaintext.
>
> Unfortunately, all is not rosy there. See this thread on the users' list
> from this fall about confusion with hyperkitty quoting: 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/us...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HQATMLGPSWGT4PGPUMYOLA6FOL6AV3XO/#ZRYTMEI3HIBLYWGQK4RZUBA4RQZREZR7
> (Look back at your message I'm replying to here, and note that the standard
> attribution line is missing. And that's not the only issue identified.)
>
> Additionally, when one does reply, it's just using the standard web browser
> text box, and to my knowledge that doesn't have an easy "delete by line"
> keyboard command, let alone things like smart reflow with quoting. So that's
> not super-ideal for inline replies. Hyperkitty's threaded view also is
> rudimentary compared to a good mail client.
>
> All of this stuff would be something we could invest development resources
> in and make better, but we don't really _have_ those resources, and no
> significant outside-of-fedora hyperkitty development community ever
> developed. We're left with some pretty awful things like the prominent "Sign
> Up" button on every Fedora list leading to a big, ugly "Sign Up Closed: We
> are sorry, but the sign up is currently closed" screen —  which is not very
> inviting, to say the least.
>

Python is migrating to Mailman 3 now:
https://mail.python.org/mm3/mailman3/lists/

And there's interest in the openSUSE community to switch from mlmmj to
Mailman 3 with HyperKitty.

So the community *is* developing, it's just much later than probably expected.



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Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-10-05 Thread mcatanzaro
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet  
wrote:

Ok, so should I be filing a bug and if so against which component? I
wasn't sure if the google online accounts part of GNOME used GnuTLS or
not.


It uses glib-networking, which does use GnuTLS. glib-networking already 
enables SNI (off the top of my head, in GTlsClientConnectionGnutls.c), 
so some further debugging is going to be required here to see if indeed 
it's true that the SNI extension is not being sent for some reason.
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Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

2018-10-05 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:27:02PM -, Ray Strode wrote:
> Why switch, when we already have 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> ? it does good quoting already, you get to click what you want, and i'm
> guessing this reply i'm sending will show up plaintext.

Unfortunately, all is not rosy there. See this thread on the users' list
from this fall about confusion with hyperkitty quoting: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/us...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HQATMLGPSWGT4PGPUMYOLA6FOL6AV3XO/#ZRYTMEI3HIBLYWGQK4RZUBA4RQZREZR7
(Look back at your message I'm replying to here, and note that the standard
attribution line is missing. And that's not the only issue identified.)

Additionally, when one does reply, it's just using the standard web browser
text box, and to my knowledge that doesn't have an easy "delete by line"
keyboard command, let alone things like smart reflow with quoting. So that's
not super-ideal for inline replies. Hyperkitty's threaded view also is
rudimentary compared to a good mail client.

All of this stuff would be something we could invest development resources
in and make better, but we don't really _have_ those resources, and no
significant outside-of-fedora hyperkitty development community ever
developed. We're left with some pretty awful things like the prominent "Sign
Up" button on every Fedora list leading to a big, ugly "Sign Up Closed: We
are sorry, but the sign up is currently closed" screen —  which is not very
inviting, to say the least.

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Re: F29 Self-Contained Change: GnuTLS enables TLS 1.3 by default

2018-10-05 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 21:33 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> 
> Yes. If Google hands out certificates for other secure services in
> the
> same way as it does on its IMAP servers, any other TLS based client
> will
> need to be developed further.

Ok, so should I be filing a bug and if so against which component? I
wasn't sure if the google online accounts part of GNOME used GnuTLS or
not.

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[rpms/perl-Sys-Virt] New Commits To "rpms/perl-Sys-Virt" (master)

2018-10-05 Thread pagure

The following commits were pushed to the repo rpms/perl-Sys-Virt on branch
master, which you are following:
83c54fca8dba6727276bed7085386469e60fed22Daniel P. BerrangéUpdate to 
4.8.0 release



To view more about the commits, visit:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Sys-Virt/commits/master
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Fedora Modularity Classroom for packagers next Tuesday

2018-10-05 Thread Adam Samalik
Hey all,

I'll be hosting a Fedora Modularity Classroom targeted at packagers who
want to build multiple versions of software on independent lifecycles for
Fedora.

When: Tuesday, October 09 at 1400 UTC
How: Bluejeans https://bluejeans.com/6638527489 (or simply dial MODULARITY)

More details:
https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-classroom-session-fedora-modularity-101/

Recording will be available on YouTube.

Cheers!
Adam


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Re: Problem with mock --forcearch=s390x

2018-10-05 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 5.10.2018 04:58, Jerry James wrote:

I am trying to determine why the latest version of bigloo segfaults on
s390x during the build.  I launched a mock build with mock -r
fedora-rawhide-s390x --forcearch=s390x --rebuild
bigloo-4.3c-1.fc30.src.rpm, then went away for several hours.  I came
back to see this:

   Running scriptlet: desktop-file-utils-0.23-9.fc29.s390x   570/570
   Running scriptlet: fontconfig-2.13.1-1.fc30.s390x 570/570
   Running scriptlet: adwaita-icon-theme-3.30.0-1.fc30.noarch570/570
   Running scriptlet: hicolor-icon-theme-0.17-3.fc29.noarch  570/570
   Running scriptlet: shared-mime-info-1.10-2.fc29.s390x 570/570
   Running scriptlet: gdk-pixbuf2-2.38.0-4.fc30.s390x570/570

And there it sits.  Running ps shows:

root 27051 15060  0 Oct4 ?00:00:00
/usr/bin/qemu-s390x-static /bin/sh /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.WNZJDC 0 0
root 27053 27051 99 Oct4 ?10:09:31
/usr/bin/qemu-s390x-static /bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders-64
--update-cache

So apparently gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders-64 has hung.  This didn't
happen during the koji build, so it must be some artifact of building
with qemu-static.  Does anybody have any idea how I can either
diagnose or avoid the hang?



You could --copyin the rpms and use rpm --noscripts (in mock shell) to 
install them. Not sure if it would function later, but should avoid the 
scriptlet being run.


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Re: What to do about sagemath

2018-10-05 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 5.10.2018 04:56, Jerry James wrote:

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 7:58 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

IMHO You can build the python3 package as well, but blacklist it from
the module.


I'm starting to lean back towards migrating to the (experimental,
buggy) python 3 build.  Lots of python 3 fixes have gone into the (not
quite released) sagemath 8.4.  That would certainly be less work for
me, since I wouldn't have to keep up with python 2 versions of various
packages.  That would be a good thing.  I am soo far behind on
Fedora work.  My TODO list has never been so long before, so I think
adding python 2 package maintenance onto the heap is not a great idea.

I still haven't heard anything from Paulo.  I don't know what his
status is, but he seems to be absent for the time being, which means
it's pretty much just me minding the sagemath store.  The state of the
packages will have to bow to my time pressure, unless somebody else
steps up to help with maintenance, which hasn't happened yet.

That was a roundabout way of saying, "I haven't figured out how
modules work yet.  I don't know when I will have time to figure it
out, but probably not soon.  Sagemath is already broken in Rawhide due
to certain python 2 packages disappearing, so something has to be
done, and this seems like the least work for me." :-)


How can I help with the python3 transition?

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[Bug 1536481] fusioninventory-agent segfaults when running SNMP

2018-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1536481

Johan Cwiklinski  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
Last Closed||2018-10-05 04:39:31



--- Comment #3 from Johan Cwiklinski  ---
No longer reproducible issue, closing. If it happens again and you can provide
aditional data, see upstream issue ;)

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[Bug 1536481] fusioninventory-agent segfaults when running SNMP

2018-10-05 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1536481



--- Comment #2 from Johan Cwiklinski  ---
Hi again,

Upstream has requested additional informations:
https://github.com/fusioninventory/fusioninventory-agent/issues/571#issuecomment-427258434

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