PYTEST.pyc files

2019-04-26 Thread Orion Poplawski
It appears that in at least some situations pytest will create 
-PYTEST.pyc files, and sometimes (always?) with weird permissions:


-rw---. 1 root root 1614 Jul 13  2018 
/usr/lib64/python3.7/site-packages/cytoolz/__pycache__/utils_test.cpython-37-PYTEST.pyc


I've noticed the following packages have them:

pytest-4.4.1-1.fc31.src.rpm
python-astropy-healpix-0.4-1.fc31.src.rpm
python-cytoolz-0.9.0.1-3.fc30.src.rpm
python-healpy-1.12.9-1.fc31.src.rpm
python-pytest-repeat-0.8.0-1.fc31.src.rpm
python-pytest-rerunfailures-6.0-1.fc31.src.rpm
python-pytest-shutil-1.6.0-2.fc31.src.rpm
python-reproject-0.4-6.fc30.src.rpm
python3-pytest-asyncio-0.10.0-1.fc31.src.rpm
scipy-1.2.1-1.fc31.src.rpm

These can be prevented by setting PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=1 when run pytest.

Can anyone else shed more light on this?  Should we add this to the 
guidelines? (Possibly not since there do not appear to be many packages 
like this).  I suspect it comes in when has to set 
PYTHONPATH=%{buildroot}%{python3_sitearch} due to needing to load 
compiled modules.


- Orion

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[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2019-04-27 - 91% PASS

2019-04-26 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2019/04/27/report-389-ds-base-1.4.1.2-20190426git6a6b8d9.fc29.x86_64.html
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[Bug 1703627] New: perl-Regexp-Grammars-1.050 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703627

Bug ID: 1703627
   Summary: perl-Regexp-Grammars-1.050 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Regexp-Grammars
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: wf...@worldbroken.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
wf...@worldbroken.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 1.050
Current version/release in rawhide: 1.049-2.fc30
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Regexp-Grammars/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.

Based on the information from anitya: 
https://release-monitoring.org/project/3295/

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[Bug 1703626] New: perl-Module-Faker-0.021 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703626

Bug ID: 1703626
   Summary: perl-Module-Faker-0.021 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Module-Faker
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, ppi...@redhat.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 0.021
Current version/release in rawhide: 0.020-4.fc30
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Module-Faker/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.

Based on the information from anitya: 
https://release-monitoring.org/project/6989/

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[Bug 1664030] perl-Class-DBI-Plugin-Type-0.02-35.fc30 FTBFS: tests fail with perl-DBD-SQLite-1.62-1.fc30

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1664030

Fedora Release Engineering  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Flags||needinfo?(tcallawa@redhat.c
   ||om)



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Release Engineering  ---
Dear Maintainer,

your package has not been built successfully in f30. Action is required from
you.

If you can fix your package to build, perform a build in koji, and either
create
an update in bodhi, or close this bug without creating an update, if updating
is
not appropriate [1]. If you are working on a fix, set the status to ASSIGNED to
acknowledge this. Following the latest policy for such packages [2], your
package
can be orphaned if this bug remains in NEW state more than 8 weeks.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy
[2]
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/

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[Bug 1703622] New: perl-Mojolicious-8.15 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703622

Bug ID: 1703622
   Summary: perl-Mojolicious-8.15 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Mojolicious
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: emman...@seyman.fr
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: emman...@seyman.fr,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org,
robinlee.s...@gmail.com, yan...@declera.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 8.15
Current version/release in rawhide: 8.14-1.fc31
URL: https://metacpan.org/release/Mojolicious

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
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Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Minimal GDB in buildroot

2019-04-26 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 26. 04. 19 23:49, Ben Cotton wrote:

* Python 3 will disappear from buildroot (yes, it was there just because of GDB)


\o/ That would simplify Python 3.N+1 bootstrapping!

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[Bug 1698172] perl-Sereal-4.007 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1698172



--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Sereal-4.007-1.fc29 has been pushed to the Fedora 29 testing repository.
If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for
instructions on how to install test updates.
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-7dbf06532f

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Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Minimal GDB in buildroot

2019-04-26 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Minimal_GDB_in_buildroot

== Summary ==
Create gdb-minimal package (without XML support, Python
support, Syntax Highlight and such) and switch to it in buildroot.

== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:ignatenkobrain|Igor Gnatenko]], [[User:sergiodj|Sergio
Durigan Junior]]
* Email: ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org, sergi...@sergiodj.net

== Detailed Description ==
Create subpackage in gdb source package called
gdb-minimal that will contain 2 files:
* /usr/libexec/gdb-minimal — GDB executable built without
optional unneeded features
* /usr/bin/gdb-add-index — Executable script shared with
gdb-headless package (modified to fallback to gdb-minimal if exists)

debuginfo code in RPM needs just gdb-add-index and that one doesn't
need any syntax highlight or python plugins to work.

As of Apr 26, following packages would disappear from buildroot:


boost-regex-1.69.0-6.fc30.x86_64
ctags-5.8-25.fc30.x86_64
gdbm-libs-1:1.18-4.fc30.x86_64
libbabeltrace-1.5.6-2.fc30.x86_64
libicu-63.1-2.fc30.x86_64
libipt-2.0-2.fc30.x86_64
python-pip-wheel-19.0.3-1.fc31.noarch
python-setuptools-wheel-40.8.0-1.fc30.noarch
python3-3.7.3-2.fc31.x86_64
python3-libs-3.7.3-2.fc31.x86_64
python3-pip-19.0.3-1.fc31.noarch
python3-setuptools-40.8.0-1.fc30.noarch
source-highlight-3.1.8-24.fc31.x86_64
sqlite-libs-3.27.2-3.fc31.x86_64


== Benefit to Fedora ==
* Python 3 will disappear from buildroot (yes, it was there just because of GDB)
* RPM download size for buildroot preparation will go down from 101M to 85M
* installed buildroot size will go down from 439M to 350M

== Scope ==
* Proposal owners: Create a subpackage in gdb, Add Suggests:
gdb-minimal into rpm-build
* Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8311 #8311]
* Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)

== Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== User Experience ==
Python 3 will disappear from buildroot, but nobody should have ever
relied on it since we have guidelines about that for long time:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#buildrequires

== Dependencies ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== Contingency Plan ==
* Contingency mechanism: (What to do?  Who will do it?) N/A (not a
System Wide Change)
* Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change)

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Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Minimal GDB in buildroot

2019-04-26 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Minimal_GDB_in_buildroot

== Summary ==
Create gdb-minimal package (without XML support, Python
support, Syntax Highlight and such) and switch to it in buildroot.

== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:ignatenkobrain|Igor Gnatenko]], [[User:sergiodj|Sergio
Durigan Junior]]
* Email: ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org, sergi...@sergiodj.net

== Detailed Description ==
Create subpackage in gdb source package called
gdb-minimal that will contain 2 files:
* /usr/libexec/gdb-minimal — GDB executable built without
optional unneeded features
* /usr/bin/gdb-add-index — Executable script shared with
gdb-headless package (modified to fallback to gdb-minimal if exists)

debuginfo code in RPM needs just gdb-add-index and that one doesn't
need any syntax highlight or python plugins to work.

As of Apr 26, following packages would disappear from buildroot:


boost-regex-1.69.0-6.fc30.x86_64
ctags-5.8-25.fc30.x86_64
gdbm-libs-1:1.18-4.fc30.x86_64
libbabeltrace-1.5.6-2.fc30.x86_64
libicu-63.1-2.fc30.x86_64
libipt-2.0-2.fc30.x86_64
python-pip-wheel-19.0.3-1.fc31.noarch
python-setuptools-wheel-40.8.0-1.fc30.noarch
python3-3.7.3-2.fc31.x86_64
python3-libs-3.7.3-2.fc31.x86_64
python3-pip-19.0.3-1.fc31.noarch
python3-setuptools-40.8.0-1.fc30.noarch
source-highlight-3.1.8-24.fc31.x86_64
sqlite-libs-3.27.2-3.fc31.x86_64


== Benefit to Fedora ==
* Python 3 will disappear from buildroot (yes, it was there just because of GDB)
* RPM download size for buildroot preparation will go down from 101M to 85M
* installed buildroot size will go down from 439M to 350M

== Scope ==
* Proposal owners: Create a subpackage in gdb, Add Suggests:
gdb-minimal into rpm-build
* Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8311 #8311]
* Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)

== Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== User Experience ==
Python 3 will disappear from buildroot, but nobody should have ever
relied on it since we have guidelines about that for long time:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#buildrequires

== Dependencies ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== Contingency Plan ==
* Contingency mechanism: (What to do?  Who will do it?) N/A (not a
System Wide Change)
* Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)
* Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change)

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Re: Can we maybe reduce the set of packages we install by default a bit?

2019-04-26 Thread Przemek Klosowski

On 4/25/19 6:10 PM, Björn Persson wrote:

It's perfectly possible for a number to be unique without being random.
As an example, you could hash the machine ID, which is supposedly
unique in space, and the system clock, which is unique in time. That
makes the hash unique in both space and time. Produce invocation IDs by
counting up from that value, or by hashing repeatedly. That way you
wouldn't need entropy for invocation IDs at every boot, only during
installation.

Such values would of course be somewhat predictable, but according to
what you've said in this thread, invocation IDs don't need to be
unpredictable. You've only said that you want them unique.


That is a good point---and by the way, you COULD make the same argument 
for hashing: one could create another installation-time seed value that 
will be guaranteed to not leak from the system, and mix it in the hash 
creation, making the hash unpredictable.


Between those two workarounds, it looks to me like we don't need 
randomness in secular systemd startup at all?



(Of course one needs to be aware that collisions are not impossible,
only improbable. That's equally true for hashes and random numbers.)


At the UUID-level bit lengths, the probability is vanishingly 
small---although one does have to realize that even very small 
probability events can be realized with enough statistics, like in this 
recent measurement of Xenon124 radioactive decay with time constant of 
over 10^22 years, trillion times longer than the life of the Universe:


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1124-4

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Re: rpmlint whitelisting broken in taskotron?

2019-04-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 20:24 Tim Flink  wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 16:42:30 +0200
> Fabio Valentini  wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've noticed that my bodhi updates started showing rpmlint errors for
> > my packages again, where they were previously silent because I supply
> > a $SRCNAME.rpmlintrc file in my dist-git repos.
> >
> > It looks like taskotron is broken and/or ignores this file again. Is
> > this a known issue?
> >
> > For example, this build from today shows rpmlint issues that are
> > explicitly whitelisted (using the file locally suppresses the
> > warnings/errors as intended):
> >
> > update: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-ecaba1eef1
> > in repo:
> >
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/elementary-greeter/blob/f30/f/elementary-greeter.rpmlintrc
>
> This was not a known issue, no. It stems from us depending on the cgit
> interface which was taken down a few days ago - we're getting 404s when
> we try to grab the rpmlintrc file
>
> I'm still looking into this but have filed an issue track it:
>
> https://pagure.io/taskotron/libtaskotron/issue/429
>
> Thanks for the report and sorry for the bother.
>
> Tim
>

Great, thanks for looking into it!

pagure provides really simple URLs to fetch raw files, so it shouldn't be
hard to adapt the code from cgit, for example:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/elementary-photos/raw/47e73b7ac14dea07b5fcbd39b5f2aff67fea4fbc/f/elementary-photos.rpmlintrc

Thanks again, Fabio


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Re: rpmlint whitelisting broken in taskotron?

2019-04-26 Thread Tim Flink
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 16:42:30 +0200
Fabio Valentini  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've noticed that my bodhi updates started showing rpmlint errors for
> my packages again, where they were previously silent because I supply
> a $SRCNAME.rpmlintrc file in my dist-git repos.
> 
> It looks like taskotron is broken and/or ignores this file again. Is
> this a known issue?
> 
> For example, this build from today shows rpmlint issues that are
> explicitly whitelisted (using the file locally suppresses the
> warnings/errors as intended):
> 
> update: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-ecaba1eef1
> in repo:
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/elementary-greeter/blob/f30/f/elementary-greeter.rpmlintrc

This was not a known issue, no. It stems from us depending on the cgit
interface which was taken down a few days ago - we're getting 404s when
we try to grab the rpmlintrc file 

I'm still looking into this but have filed an issue track it:

https://pagure.io/taskotron/libtaskotron/issue/429

Thanks for the report and sorry for the bother.

Tim


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Fedora 30 Final is GO

2019-04-26 Thread Ben Cotton
The Fedora 30 Final RC1.2 compose [1] is GO and will to be shipped
live on Tuesday, April 30, 2019.

For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes [2] or logs [3].

Thank you to everyone who has worked on this release and getting it out on time.

[1] https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/30_RC-1.2/
[2] 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-04-26/f30-final-go_no_go-meeting.2019-04-26-17.00.html
[3] 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-04-26/f30-final-go_no_go-meeting.2019-04-26-17.00.log.html

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 30 Final is GO

2019-04-26 Thread Ben Cotton
The Fedora 30 Final RC1.2 compose [1] is GO and will to be shipped
live on Tuesday, April 30, 2019.

For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes [2] or logs [3].

Thank you to everyone who has worked on this release and getting it out on time.

[1] https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/30_RC-1.2/
[2] 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-04-26/f30-final-go_no_go-meeting.2019-04-26-17.00.html
[3] 
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-04-26/f30-final-go_no_go-meeting.2019-04-26-17.00.log.html

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Fedora Rawhide-20190426.n.0 compose check report

2019-04-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images:

Atomichost raw-xz x86_64
Atomichost qcow2 x86_64

Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
2 of 47 required tests failed
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** 
below

Failed openQA tests: 9/146 (x86_64), 3/23 (i386), 1/2 (arm)

ID: 391878  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391878
ID: 391910  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391910
ID: 391911  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso install_default@uefi 
**GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391911
ID: 391913  Test: i386 Workstation-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391913
ID: 391927  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391927
ID: 391929  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391929
ID: 391935  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso desktop_browser
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391935
ID: 391978  Test: x86_64 universal install_multi **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391978
ID: 391988  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391988
ID: 392001  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/392001
ID: 392010  Test: x86_64 universal install_multi_empty
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/392010
ID: 392014  Test: i386 universal install_blivet_no_swap
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/392014
ID: 392026  Test: i386 universal install_package_set_kde
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/392026

Soft failed openQA tests: 3/23 (i386), 7/146 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

ID: 391890  Test: i386 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391890
ID: 391891  Test: i386 Server-dvd-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391891
ID: 391900  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391900
ID: 391909  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391909
ID: 391914  Test: i386 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391914
ID: 391949  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_minimal_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391949
ID: 391951  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391951
ID: 391952  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391952
ID: 391953  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391953
ID: 392009  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_minimal_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/392009

Passed openQA tests: 130/146 (x86_64), 17/23 (i386)

Skipped non-gating openQA tests: 1 of 171
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Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2019-04-26)

2019-04-26 Thread Randy Barlow
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2019-04-29)
===


Meeting started by bowlofeggs at 15:00:00 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-04-26/fesco.2019-04-26-15.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* init process  (bowlofeggs, 15:00:06)

* #2088 F31 Change – “dnf --best” as default behavior  (bowlofeggs,
  15:03:47)
  * AGREED: ask for a response from jmracek and punt till next week (+6,
0, -0)  (bowlofeggs, 15:19:05)

* #2096 F31 System-Wide Change: BuildRequires generators  (bowlofeggs,
  15:19:14)
  * AGREED: APPROVED (+7, 0, -0)  (bowlofeggs, 15:22:44)

* #2114 What is the scope of Modularity?  (bowlofeggs, 15:23:07)
  * LINK:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/modularity/making-modules/adding-new-modules/
still mentions it.  (nirik, 15:49:24)
  * AGREED: FESCo forbids the addition of new default stream settings
without FESCo approval until further notice while we work out the
buildroot problems. (+7, 0, -0)  (bowlofeggs, 16:06:04)
  * ACTION: mhroncok to file a bug on the modularity Taiga describing
the use cases we need to keep in mind when writing those (modularity
default streams) rules  (mhroncok, 16:08:05)

* #2115 Missing PkgDB features should be implemented  (bowlofeggs,
  16:10:24)
  * AGREED: APPROVED (+6, 0, -0)  (bowlofeggs, 16:14:56)
  * ACTION: mhroncok will file a council ticket  (bowlofeggs, 16:16:52)

* Next week's chair  (bowlofeggs, 16:17:49)
  * ACTION: jforbes will chair next week's meeting  (bowlofeggs,
16:18:45)
  * ACTION: mhroncok will chair in two weeks if we remember this #action
line  (bowlofeggs, 16:19:00)

* Open Floor  (bowlofeggs, 16:19:12)
  * ACTION: somebody to remember what bowlofeggs #actioned  (zbyszek,
16:19:26)
  * LINK: http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/64   (nirik,
16:22:42)
  * ACTION: mhroncok to file a releng or infra ticket about cronjob for
FTBFS weekly bugzilla reminders  (mhroncok, 16:25:42)

Meeting ended at 16:28:35 UTC.




Action Items

* mhroncok to file a bug on the modularity Taiga describing the use
  cases we need to keep in mind when writing those (modularity default
  streams) rules
* mhroncok will file a council ticket
* jforbes will chair next week's meeting
* mhroncok will chair in two weeks if we remember this #action line
* somebody to remember what bowlofeggs #actioned
* mhroncok to file a releng or infra ticket about cronjob for FTBFS
  weekly bugzilla reminders




Action Items, by person
---
* bowlofeggs
  * somebody to remember what bowlofeggs #actioned
* jforbes
  * jforbes will chair next week's meeting
* mhroncok
  * mhroncok to file a bug on the modularity Taiga describing the use
cases we need to keep in mind when writing those (modularity default
streams) rules
  * mhroncok will file a council ticket
  * mhroncok will chair in two weeks if we remember this #action line
  * mhroncok to file a releng or infra ticket about cronjob for FTBFS
weekly bugzilla reminders
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




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* mhroncok (87)
* nirik (56)
* sgallagh (45)
* zbyszek (38)
* bookwar (26)
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Re: Orphaning js-jquery

2019-04-26 Thread stan
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 11:07:54 - (UTC)
Petr Pisar  wrote:

I am a fedora user with no dog in this fight.
 
> Controversial property of modules are private build-time dependencies.
> Modularity allows packagers to hide them and to not to support them
> (to the extend that they work in my module). However, this
> privatisation has costs. It means duplication of work unless two ...

Isn't this contrary to the Fedora rules?  If I'm understanding this
correctly, it means that modules in Fedora can contain dependencies on
code that isn't available, so that Fedora (and users) can't build that
module from source.  And that the module could contain basically
anything because no one can examine the contents that built the
module.  Could someone privately pull in something like the proprietary
nvidia binary blob and use it to build their module without anyone
knowing?

Because I'm not knowledgeable about this, it might be that private
dependencies have to be packages built from source code available in the
Fedora ecosystem, and so this is not possible.  I just want to clarify
my understanding.
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Re: Who's right? Fedora armv7hl-redhat-linux-gnu vs GNU armv7l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf

2019-04-26 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Fri, 2019-04-26 at 16:38 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On 32-bit ARM Fedora's %{configure} macro forces:
> 
>   ./configure ... --host=armv7hl-redhat-linux-gnu ...
> 
> On the same host, config.guess prints:
> 
>   armv7l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf
> 
> The OCaml configure script tests for:
> 
>   AS_CASE([$host],
>   ...
>   [armv7*-*-linux-gnueabihf],
> [arch=arm; model=armv7; system=linux_eabihf],
>   ...
>   [armv7*-*-linux-gnueabi],
> [arch=arm; model=armv7; system=linux_eabi],
> 
> As a result it works if $host contains the GNU string, but fails on
> the forced Fedora host string.
> 
> Who's right here?  Also can I change what Fedora's %{configure} macro
> sets --host to by modifying only the spec file?
> 

Hum it seems something similar with [1] 

In resume is a difference between Debian vs Redhat , I believe the
solution is patch test script .

[1]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1134914#c9


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Fedora rawhide compose report: 20190426.n.0 changes

2019-04-26 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20190425.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20190426.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:9
Dropped images:  3
Added packages:  10
Dropped packages:2
Upgraded packages:   76
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  39.22 MiB
Size of dropped packages:3.35 MiB
Size of upgraded packages:   6.21 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   17.49 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: Server boot s390x
Path: Server/s390x/iso/Fedora-Server-netinst-s390x-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.iso
Image: Xfce live x86_64
Path: Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.iso
Image: LXQt live x86_64
Path: Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-LXQt-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.iso
Image: Cloud_Base raw-xz s390x
Path: Cloud/s390x/images/Fedora-Cloud-Base-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.s390x.raw.xz
Image: LXQt live i386
Path: Spins/i386/iso/Fedora-LXQt-Live-i386-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.iso
Image: Server dvd s390x
Path: Server/s390x/iso/Fedora-Server-dvd-s390x-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.iso
Image: Cloud_Base qcow2 s390x
Path: Cloud/s390x/images/Fedora-Cloud-Base-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.s390x.qcow2
Image: Cloud_Base vmdk s390x
Path: Cloud/s390x/images/Fedora-Cloud-Base-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.s390x.vmdk
Image: Security live x86_64
Path: Labs/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Security-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20190426.n.0.iso

= DROPPED IMAGES =
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Path: Spins/armhfp/images/Fedora-SoaS-armhfp-Rawhide-20190425.n.0-sda.raw.xz
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Path: Spins/i386/iso/Fedora-KDE-Live-i386-Rawhide-20190425.n.0.iso
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Path: 
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RPMs:california
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Package: perl-AutoClass-1.56-4.fc30
Summary: Automatically define classes and objects for Perl
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RPMs: R-rgeos
Size: 3.54 MiB
Size change:  14.75 KiB
Changelog:
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0.4.3-1
  - Update to latest version


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Size change:  84 B
Changelog:
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  - require python3-tkinter (rhbz#1702714)


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Old package:  bcc-0.8.0-4.fc31
Summary:  BPF Compiler Collection (BCC)
RPMs: bcc bcc-devel bcc-doc bcc-lua bcc-tools python3-bcc
Size: 48.83 MiB
Size change:  2.78 MiB
Changelog:
  * Mon Apr 22 2019 Neal Gompa  - 0.8.0-5
  - Make the Python 3 bindings package noarch
  - Small cleanups to the spec

  * Thu Apr 25 2019 Rafael dos Santos  - 0.9.0-1
  - Rebase to latest upstream version (#1686626)
  - Rename libbpf header to libbcc_bpf


Package:  berusky-1.7.1-12.fc31
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Summary:  Sokoban clone
RPMs: berusky
Size: 1002.48 KiB
Size change:  24.39 KiB
Changelog:
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  - Fixed missing SDL.h headers in flatpak build.


Package:  cpprest-2.10.13-1.fc31
Old package:  cpprest-2.10.12-3.fc31
Summary:  C++ REST library
RPMs: cpprest cpprest-devel

Who's right? Fedora armv7hl-redhat-linux-gnu vs GNU armv7l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf

2019-04-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On 32-bit ARM Fedora's %{configure} macro forces:

  ./configure ... --host=armv7hl-redhat-linux-gnu ...

On the same host, config.guess prints:

  armv7l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf

The OCaml configure script tests for:

  AS_CASE([$host],
  ...
  [armv7*-*-linux-gnueabihf],
[arch=arm; model=armv7; system=linux_eabihf],
  ...
  [armv7*-*-linux-gnueabi],
[arch=arm; model=armv7; system=linux_eabi],

As a result it works if $host contains the GNU string, but fails on
the forced Fedora host string.

Who's right here?  Also can I change what Fedora's %{configure} macro
sets --host to by modifying only the spec file?

Rich.

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[Bug 1703498] New: perl-Test2-Suite-0.000120 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703498

Bug ID: 1703498
   Summary: perl-Test2-Suite-0.000120 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Test2-Suite
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: ppi...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, ppi...@redhat.com
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 0.000120
Current version/release in rawhide: 0.000119-1.fc31
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test2-Suite/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.

Based on the information from anitya: 
https://release-monitoring.org/project/9536/

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Re: Orphaning js-jquery

2019-04-26 Thread Ben Rosser
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 8:25 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> There was the packager UX initiative draft [2] proposed in December 2018,
> however it seems nobody really is eager to go and start doing this.
> It seems that this is a bit too much for volunteers and Red Hat paid Fedora
> contributors are already folly occupied by their primary responsibilities.
>
> [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/Packager_Experience

I was the author of that proposal. I started working on it because I
completely agree with the complaints that have been raised in this
thread thus far. In fact, I *made* similar complaints back in December
and was encouraged to file the objective proposal in question.

Unfortunately, I've realized over the last few months that I did not
have the time or energy to be the sole person pushing this forward.
I'm sorry that I've let it languish.

I'd still like to see the objective be realized. Though, perhaps,
rather than have the objective proposal suggest creating a SIG or WG
to organize packager experience efforts, we need to do this the other
way around: we should create a SIG or packager experience and then
*that SIG as a group* should prepare and submit an objective proposal
describing what they want to work on.

Ben Rosser
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Re: Orphaning js-jquery

2019-04-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 3:23 PM Nicolas Mailhot
 wrote:
>
> Le jeudi 25 avril 2019 à 20:00 -0400, Christopher a écrit :
> > Fighting with the "Modularity team", whoever they are
> > (a SIG? a mailing list?, a team at RedHat? ... I don't really know
> > who they are)
>
> Just to be clear: this is not about fighting the Modularity team (or
> any other team, for that matter). Modularity, Silverblue, RHEL, etc,
> all assume something to build upon. And this something may be Fedora as
> we know it today, or something else entirely, I don’t care (much).
>
> Yet there is no public advocate of this something. All the energy is
> poured in “value-added” endeavours which delegate hard problems to a
> backbone starved of investments and resources.
>
> This is not healthy or sustainable.

I completely agree.

While I understand that it's more exciting to work on the "new shiny
project" (Modularity), the basis we all want to build upon
(traditional RPM packages in the "normal" repos, in this case) cannot
be allowed to rot, or we all stand on shaky ground.

For example, the Stewardship SIG recently took ownership of around 200
orphaned, now mostly module-only packages - some of which have a
dependency tree larger than 2000 (!) binary packages.

TL;DR: I don't think pulling the rug out under a significant portion
of the fedora package set (and maintainers) is a good idea, until
we're sure that there's solid ground under our feet.

Fabio

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Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-26 Thread Jan Staněk
On 26. 04. 19 16:24, Zuzana Svetlikova wrote:
> I'll take them.

Already mine (announced in the js-jquery orphaning thread) ;)
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rpmlint whitelisting broken in taskotron?

2019-04-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hi,

I've noticed that my bodhi updates started showing rpmlint errors for
my packages again, where they were previously silent because I supply
a $SRCNAME.rpmlintrc file in my dist-git repos.

It looks like taskotron is broken and/or ignores this file again. Is
this a known issue?

For example, this build from today shows rpmlint issues that are
explicitly whitelisted (using the file locally suppresses the
warnings/errors as intended):

update: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-ecaba1eef1
in repo: 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/elementary-greeter/blob/f30/f/elementary-greeter.rpmlintrc

Fabio
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Re: Making Perl site paths ABI-specific

2019-04-26 Thread Dan Book
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:36 PM Petr Pisar  wrote:

>
> Any opinions? Should we go with this change? Wich format do you like most?
>

I think this is a great idea, and the first option is most similar to
normal Perl lib paths.

-Dan
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Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers

2019-04-26 Thread Zuzana Svetlikova
I'll take them.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:56 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:

> On 15. 04. 19 18:52, Christopher wrote:
> > If nobody picks up the ones by my name (nodejs-path-exists,
> > nodejs-bluebird, nodejs-grunt-known-options), then I will probably
> > have to orphan js-jquery, because it probably needs those for its
> > build (I can't think of any other reason my name would be listed next
> > to those).
>
> That is indeed the reason.
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Re: Making Perl site paths ABI-specific

2019-04-26 Thread Paul Howarth
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 16:36:38 +0200
Petr Pisar  wrote:
> It was a long time ago I wrote to this list. I'm thinking about
> changing site paths.
> 
> Now, perl configures site paths to:
> 
> /usr/local/lib64/perl5
> /usr/local/share/perl5
> 
> so that anyone installing distributions from CPAN in a system-wide
> manner will install his modules there. These two paths are listed
> before core and vendor path used by Fedora packages in order to allow
> users to override Perl modules coming with Fedora.
> 
> This layout has the nice feature that user's code is available across
> Fedora upgrades. However, this feature is also bad because perl tends
> to change ABI and as a result XS modules stop working and becuse the
> site location precedence they can hinder even Fedora's Perl code.
> Then inexperienced users report bugs for perl that Perl stopped
> working after upgrade Fedora.
> 
> My proposal is make the two paths changing with every new
> incompatible Perl release (that happens every year with a new minor
> Perl version). Example:
> 
> /usr/local/lib64/perl5/5.30
> /usr/local/share/perl5/5.30
> 
> As a result when users upgrade to Perl 5.30, their locally installed
> modules become unavailable and thus they won't be able to affect the
> new system. Also the user immediatelly recongnizes that his locally
> installed code "disappeared" instead of receiving some cryptic error
> message from XSLoader few days later when some optional XS module
> gets loaded.

Having seen a few of these bugs, I think this is a good idea.

> So if we conclude that this change is good and should be implemented,
> the only uncertainity is the issue of aestetic: How exactly should
> the paths be named? I can see these posibilities:
> 
> 
> /usr/local/share/perl5/5.30
> /usr/local/share/perl5/30
> /usr/local/share/perl5.30
> 
> The first two keep all Perl files under one directory, while the
> third one proliferates directories right under /usr/local/share. It
> also is backward compatible for people who back up or NFS-mount the
> paths. The last two makes the path a little bit shorter. While the
> first and last resembles a soname we already give to libperl.so
> (/usr/lib64/libperl.so.5.30). The first two have also a very tiny
> posibility of a clash with Perl modules namespaced into "5.30::" or
> "30::" that could survive from current days (installed
> into /usr/local/share/perl5). I like the first option.
> 
> Any opinions? Should we go with this change? Wich format do you like
> most?

I like the first one too.

Paul.
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Modular packages and Python 3.8 rebuild

2019-04-26 Thread Miro Hrončok

The following modular packages require Python 3.7 on Fedora 30:

$ dnf repoquery --releasever 30 --repo=fedora-modular 
--repo=updates{,-testing}-modular --whatrequires 'libpython3.7m.so.1.0()(64bit)'

python3-pygit2-0:0.27.4-1.module_f30+2959+693db98d.x86_64

$ dnf repoquery --releasever 30 --repo=fedora-modular 
--repo=updates{,-testing}-modular --whatrequires 'python(abi) = 3.7'

meson-0:0.50.0-1.module_f30+3586+7354b37a.noarch
meson-0:0.50.1-1.module_f30+3966+49c83da1.noarch
python3-aexpect-0:1.5.1-4.module_f30+2883+7f6a800a.noarch
python3-pygit2-0:0.27.4-1.module_f30+2959+693db98d.x86_64
stratis-cli-0:1.0.2-1.module_f30+3525+55cfb91a.x86_64

That's:
python-pygit2-0.27.4-1.module_f30+2959+693db98d.src.rpm
meson-0.50.0-1.module_f30+3586+7354b37a.src.rpm
meson-0.50.1-1.module_f30+3966+49c83da1.src.rpm
python-aexpect-1.5.1-4.module_f30+2883+7f6a800a.src.rpm
python-pygit2-0.27.4-1.module_f30+2959+693db98d.src.rpm
stratis-cli-1.0.2-1.module_f30+3525+55cfb91a.src.rpm


I have no idea how to query rawhide, because i only get nothing provides 
module(platform:f31) errors when I try to set releasever to 31 or to query 
--repo=rawhide-modular.


I'd like to know what shall I do about Python 3.8 rebuilds of those.
How do I do it? Where do I do it?

How do I test it against my copr before we proceed in a rawhide side tag?
Should I just fetch the srpms and use them as they are? Will they build? Do I 
have all their build dependencies? How can I tell without trying?


How do I cc their maintainers?
Does -maintain...@fedoraproject.org include the maintainers of the 
modular build?


So many questions. Can somebody please help me handle those?

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Re: Orphaning js-jquery

2019-04-26 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 25 avril 2019 à 20:00 -0400, Christopher a écrit :
> Fighting with the "Modularity team", whoever they are
> (a SIG? a mailing list?, a team at RedHat? ... I don't really know
> who they are) 

Just to be clear: this is not about fighting the Modularity team (or
any other team, for that matter). Modularity, Silverblue, RHEL, etc,
all assume something to build upon. And this something may be Fedora as
we know it today, or something else entirely, I don’t care (much).

Yet there is no public advocate of this something. All the energy is
poured in “value-added” endeavours which delegate hard problems to a
backbone starved of investments and resources.

This is not healthy or sustainable.

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Re: update-desktop-database in %post snippet

2019-04-26 Thread Rex Dieter
Petr Mensik wrote:

> Is it still valid request to add update-desktop-database into %post,
> like mentioned by fedora-review tool [1]? Almost at the end of the
> comment. I were not able to find any information about it in Package
> Guidelines. 

Here's a link to relevant guideline,
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Scriptlets/

(spoiler alert: no, update-desktop-database is no longer needed)

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Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Retire Python 2

2019-04-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 8:09 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:17 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> >
> > On 26. 04. 19 3:08, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:20 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 25. 04. 19 20:35, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > >>>   > How much is going to be needed for "mock" to still work for 
> > >>> older
> > >>>   > operating systems?
> > >>>
> > >>>  I'm confused. How is the change relevant for mock? I think I'm 
> > >>> missing some
> > >>>  pieces of the thought process here, could you please elaborate on 
> > >>> that?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> In the past, changes where old versions of python were no longer 
> > >>> supported in
> > >>> Fedora, then newer versions of mock/etc became dead in older OS's like 
> > >>> RHEL-5's
> > >>> python24 and RHEL-6's python26. This would make compiling packages for 
> > >>> certain
> > >>> versions of the OS impossible because the parent operating system 
> > >>> didn't have a
> > >>> version of python it could use and you couldn't use newer source code 
> > >>> on the
> > >>> older os.
> > >>>
> > >>> The question is moot because you are the wrong person to ask. The 
> > >>> person to ask
> > >>> is the owner of mock and I expect the answer will be... I don't have 
> > >>> time to
> > >>> support N versions of python but you have the source code.. so do it 
> > >>> yourself.
> > >>> [Probably nicer than that.. but the general effect.]
> > >>
> > >> mock in EPEL 6 is already "dead" in that matter:
> > >>
> > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1694159
> > >>
> > >> mock in EPEL 7 can run on Python 3.6:
> > >>
> > >> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mock/pull-request/6
> > >
> > > Which could make sense, but makes mock more awkward to install.
> >
> > How is that more awkward? The installation would still be be `yum install
> > epel-release && yum install mock`.
>
> It brings in a distinct scripting language that is not part of the
> commercially supported base OS and makes the OS image for the server
> with mick installed notably larger. It's not *outrageous*, but it
> branches the tools for mock further from the base python on older,
> RHEL 7 systems. It adds support and places even more commoercial grade
> support on the EPEL repository.packages.

Not for long. RHEL 7.7 is going to include Python 3 in the base:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1639030

And even if it wasn't, mock only exists in EPEL anyway, so we can
consider EPEL dependencies for mock itself.


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Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Retire Python 2

2019-04-26 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:17 AM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> On 26. 04. 19 3:08, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:20 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> >>
> >> On 25. 04. 19 20:35, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> >>>   > How much is going to be needed for "mock" to still work for older
> >>>   > operating systems?
> >>>
> >>>  I'm confused. How is the change relevant for mock? I think I'm 
> >>> missing some
> >>>  pieces of the thought process here, could you please elaborate on 
> >>> that?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In the past, changes where old versions of python were no longer 
> >>> supported in
> >>> Fedora, then newer versions of mock/etc became dead in older OS's like 
> >>> RHEL-5's
> >>> python24 and RHEL-6's python26. This would make compiling packages for 
> >>> certain
> >>> versions of the OS impossible because the parent operating system didn't 
> >>> have a
> >>> version of python it could use and you couldn't use newer source code on 
> >>> the
> >>> older os.
> >>>
> >>> The question is moot because you are the wrong person to ask. The person 
> >>> to ask
> >>> is the owner of mock and I expect the answer will be... I don't have time 
> >>> to
> >>> support N versions of python but you have the source code.. so do it 
> >>> yourself.
> >>> [Probably nicer than that.. but the general effect.]
> >>
> >> mock in EPEL 6 is already "dead" in that matter:
> >>
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1694159
> >>
> >> mock in EPEL 7 can run on Python 3.6:
> >>
> >> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mock/pull-request/6
> >
> > Which could make sense, but makes mock more awkward to install.
>
> How is that more awkward? The installation would still be be `yum install
> epel-release && yum install mock`.

It brings in a distinct scripting language that is not part of the
commercially supported base OS and makes the OS image for the server
with mick installed notably larger. It's not *outrageous*, but it
branches the tools for mock further from the base python on older,
RHEL 7 systems. It adds support and places even more commoercial grade
support on the EPEL repository.packages.
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[Bug 1703411] perl-App-cpm-0.980 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703411

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-App-cpm-0.980-1.fc31
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2019-04-26 11:33:43



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[Bug 1703294] perl-DBD-Pg-3.8.0 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703294



--- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-DBD-Pg-3.8.0-1.fc30 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 30.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-314a5d5185

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FYI: Fedora 31 will drop ocaml-emacs subpackage

2019-04-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Upstream moved the ocaml-emacs subpackage into a separate repository,
out of the main compiler repository:

  https://github.com/ocaml/ocaml/commit/20425ec4bbc3b7a22b1494970f5ed8a0aed0041d

As a result I will drop the ocaml-emacs subpackage when we move to
OCaml 4.08.0 in Fedora 31.

We already package emacs-tuareg which is a better emacs mode for OCaml
editing, and really everyone should use that instead.  However it's
likely not compatible at the elisp level so it's not a straight
replacement package.

If someone wants to turn the caml-mode repository into a Fedora
package then let me know and I can help, but I'm not in any rush to do
it myself because I use tuareg mode.

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[Bug 1703294] perl-DBD-Pg-3.8.0 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703294

Jitka Plesnikova  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED
   Fixed In Version||perl-DBD-Pg-3.8.0-1.fc31



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Re: Orphaning js-jquery

2019-04-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-04-26, Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> On 26. 04. 19 10:55, Vít Ondruch wrote:
>> How does modularity make it easier though?
>>>
>>> It seems to me that it does the exact opposite - instead of having
>>> one version of each package to maintain I now have multiple versions
>>> to worry about! I mean obviously I could convert to a module and
>>> only maintain one version but what would be the point?
>> 
>> Converting to module does not mean maintaining one version. It means
>> that you have to maintain the one version on multiple versions of
>> Fedora, where previously this was not needed.
>> 
>> E.g. if there is new OpenSSL in Rawhide and Ruby needs to be modified
>> somehow, then the modification has to be compatible with older Fedoras,
>> whereas previously you would do that change just for Rawhide.
>> 
>> TBH, keeping modules alive is much harder then it was without modules.
>> Not even mentioning the possibility of having multiple versions ...
>
> And yet somehow, somebody considers that easier.
> I still try to understand that and I always fail.
>
Modularity was designed to have a module life cycle independent from the
underlying distribution. I.e. having one stream built from one sources
for multiple Fedoras. This is a benefit for users. (If we assume that
users care what version of software they use. We could maybe consider
users as developers in this matter.)

Having the same sources on multiple Fedoras of course implies a packager
has to maintain compatibility across multiple Fedoras. In the end it's
exactly what an upstream struggles for. If you are an upstream then you
want to enable your users to build the same code for multiple
distributions. It makes packagers to produce more upstreamable patches.
Is it more labour for packagers? Yes, it is. But it frees the packager
from worrying Did I apply the fix for all supported Fedoras? Do I have
to resolve merge conflicts when backporting patches? I believe this is
what Mikołaj found attractive and why decided for modules. This is
especially true for closed ecosystems like Java packages that have
almost no dependencies on non-Java stuff. In this perspective modularity
can be beneficial for packagers too.

Controversial property of modules are private build-time dependencies.
Modularity allows packagers to hide them and to not to support them (to
the extend that they work in my module). However, this privatisation has
costs. It means duplication of work unless two packager realize they can
refer to the same package from their modules. But the common package is
whose responsibility now? And looking back at users, poor users won't
get that package for free. Yes, I agree that that this aspect of
modularity hinders an integration role of packaging. Integrating
thousounds of pieces of software, all of them as first-class citizens
and offering them to users makes distributions very attractive for
developers or anyone who wants to fork or spin of flavour or extend
the distribution.

One can dispute that now nobody, especially developers, needs
distributions with a wide selection of software because everybody uses
containers and installs software from upstream bypassing distributor's
packages. Well, that may be true for closed ecosystems (like Java maven
artifacts, Ruby gems etc.), however, look at any CI configuration files
(those foo.yml poluting roots for git repositories).  They start with
"dnf install openssl-devel"-like incantation.  Distributions are not
dead. They are still needed. And will be needed untill those fancy
upstream ecosystems (CPAN, PyPI etc.) gets to know how integrate with
foreign pieces (e.g. with C libraries).

In my humble opinion modularity would be more beneficial if every RPM
package gets it's own that-package-contained module by default. This
plethora of modules would of course demand appropriate tooling. Tooling
as we have around RPM (repositories, composes, package managers). Or
vice versa instead of reinventig weel enable Koji to expand-build one
SRPM for multiple Fedoras. And enable composes to contain multiple
version of packages. And having the build-only packages/modules
in a separate "unsupported" repository or just flagged in metadata as
unsupported.

The issue with modules in Fedora is that they look like aliens (metadata
and tooling), behave like aliens (dnf system-upgrade) and are born like
aliens (MBS above Koji).

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[Bug 1703411] New: perl-App-cpm-0.980 is available

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703411

Bug ID: 1703411
   Summary: perl-App-cpm-0.980 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-App-cpm
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 0.980
Current version/release in rawhide: 0.979-1.fc31
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/App-cpm/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.

Based on the information from anitya: 
https://release-monitoring.org/project/8399/

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Re: update-desktop-database in %post snippet

2019-04-26 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
On Friday, 26 April 2019 11:30:22 CEST Petr Mensik wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Is it still valid request to add update-desktop-database into %post,
> like mentioned by fedora-review tool [1]? Almost at the end of the
> comment. I were not able to find any information about it in Package
> Guidelines. Should that hint be removed from fedora-review or should be
> documentation updated?
> 
> Are my eyes too tired to find correct place?
> 
> 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1658153#c85
> 
> Regards,
> Petr


> Generated by fedora-review 0.6.1 (f03e4e7) last change: 2016-05-02

Update your fedora-review to 7.2. It should be in stable now, if not use 
updates-testing.

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Re: update-desktop-database in %post snippet

2019-04-26 Thread Vascom
No. It must be removed from %post.

пт, 26 апр. 2019 г. в 12:30, Petr Mensik :
>
> Hi!
>
> Is it still valid request to add update-desktop-database into %post,
> like mentioned by fedora-review tool [1]? Almost at the end of the
> comment. I were not able to find any information about it in Package
> Guidelines. Should that hint be removed from fedora-review or should be
> documentation updated?
>
> Are my eyes too tired to find correct place?
>
> 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1658153#c85
>
> Regards,
> Petr
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update-desktop-database in %post snippet

2019-04-26 Thread Petr Mensik
Hi!

Is it still valid request to add update-desktop-database into %post,
like mentioned by fedora-review tool [1]? Almost at the end of the
comment. I were not able to find any information about it in Package
Guidelines. Should that hint be removed from fedora-review or should be
documentation updated?

Are my eyes too tired to find correct place?

1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1658153#c85

Regards,
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Plan to retire ffgtk (Fritzbox manager)

2019-04-26 Thread Louis Lagendijk
hi all,
I am planning to retire ffgtk as I no longer use it and it does no
longer work with "recent" Fritzbox modem firmware from AVM. Any
objections?

I now Roger exists s replacement, but I have no interest in packiging
it.

best regards, Louis
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Re: Orphaning js-jquery

2019-04-26 Thread Vít Ondruch

Dne 26. 04. 19 v 11:15 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
> On 26. 04. 19 10:55, Vít Ondruch wrote:>> How does modularity make it
> easier though?
>>>
>>> It seems to me that it does the exact opposite - instead of having
>>> one version of each package to maintain I now have multiple versions
>>> to worry about! I mean obviously I could convert to a module and
>>> only maintain one version but what would be the point?
>>
>>
>> Converting to module does not mean maintaining one version. It means
>> that you have to maintain the one version on multiple versions of
>> Fedora, where previously this was not needed.
>>
>> E.g. if there is new OpenSSL in Rawhide and Ruby needs to be modified
>> somehow, then the modification has to be compatible with older Fedoras,
>> whereas previously you would do that change just for Rawhide.
>>
>> TBH, keeping modules alive is much harder then it was without modules.
>> Not even mentioning the possibility of having multiple versions ...
>
>
> And yet somehow, somebody considers that easier.


Of course. If Java in RHEL is in module, then Fedora maintainer probably
does not have desire to maintain it in Fedora differently.

Also, just FTR, there used to be 3 people working on Java packages in
Red Hat and now it is not more than 1,5 if I am not mistaken. That must
be visible somewhere.

TBH, the disconnect between RHEL and Fedora is IMHO much bigger then it
used to be and this is also plays its role.


Vít


> I still try to understand that and I always fail.
>
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Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Retire Python 2

2019-04-26 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 26. 04. 19 3:08, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 3:20 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:


On 25. 04. 19 20:35, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

  > How much is going to be needed for "mock" to still work for older
  > operating systems?

 I'm confused. How is the change relevant for mock? I think I'm missing some
 pieces of the thought process here, could you please elaborate on that?


In the past, changes where old versions of python were no longer supported in
Fedora, then newer versions of mock/etc became dead in older OS's like RHEL-5's
python24 and RHEL-6's python26. This would make compiling packages for certain
versions of the OS impossible because the parent operating system didn't have a
version of python it could use and you couldn't use newer source code on the
older os.

The question is moot because you are the wrong person to ask. The person to ask
is the owner of mock and I expect the answer will be... I don't have time to
support N versions of python but you have the source code.. so do it yourself.
[Probably nicer than that.. but the general effect.]


mock in EPEL 6 is already "dead" in that matter:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1694159

mock in EPEL 7 can run on Python 3.6:

https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mock/pull-request/6


Which could make sense, but makes mock more awkward to install. 


How is that more awkward? The installation would still be be `yum install 
epel-release && yum install mock`.


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Re: Orphaning js-jquery

2019-04-26 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 26. 04. 19 10:55, Vít Ondruch wrote:>> How does modularity make it easier 
though?


It seems to me that it does the exact opposite - instead of having
one version of each package to maintain I now have multiple versions
to worry about! I mean obviously I could convert to a module and
only maintain one version but what would be the point?



Converting to module does not mean maintaining one version. It means
that you have to maintain the one version on multiple versions of
Fedora, where previously this was not needed.

E.g. if there is new OpenSSL in Rawhide and Ruby needs to be modified
somehow, then the modification has to be compatible with older Fedoras,
whereas previously you would do that change just for Rawhide.

TBH, keeping modules alive is much harder then it was without modules.
Not even mentioning the possibility of having multiple versions ...



And yet somehow, somebody considers that easier.
I still try to understand that and I always fail.

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Re: Orphaning js-jquery

2019-04-26 Thread Vít Ondruch

Dne 25. 04. 19 v 20:37 Tom Hughes napsal(a):
> On 25/04/2019 19:29, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 04:23, Nicolas Mailhot
>> mailto:nicolas.mail...@laposte.net>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     Le mercredi 24 avril 2019 à 16:14 -0400, Stephen Gallagher a écrit :
>>  >
>>  > FWIW, things should *not* be getting harder. Some folks just
>> jumped
>>  > the gun and made changes they weren't supposed to (yet) and
>> now the
>>  > Modularity team has a lot of fires to put out and very few
>> resources
>>  > with which to do it.
>>
>>     That’s not overly nice to the people that “jumped the gun”. They’re
>>     using modularity exactly as it was designed. Tragedy of the
>> commons is
>>     an entirely predictible outcome, of something without a built-in
>>     sharing strategy.
>>
>>
>> That is my view of the matter also. There are a lot of packagers with
>> way too many packages... and we have too many dependencies... so any
>> tool which allows for that to be 'easier' is going to start an
>> avalanche of packages getting moved out of the 'ursine commons'. As
>> someone said yesterday to me, it is like showing that you can make a
>> better living as a farmer using industrial farming techniques and
>> then complaining that the small old-fashioned farmer no longer
>> exists... or that a lot of people quit being farmers because those
>> who used the industrial methods took over the market.
>
> How does modularity make it easier though?
>
> It seems to me that it does the exact opposite - instead of having
> one version of each package to maintain I now have multiple versions
> to worry about! I mean obviously I could convert to a module and
> only maintain one version but what would be the point?


Converting to module does not mean maintaining one version. It means
that you have to maintain the one version on multiple versions of
Fedora, where previously this was not needed.

E.g. if there is new OpenSSL in Rawhide and Ruby needs to be modified
somehow, then the modification has to be compatible with older Fedoras,
whereas previously you would do that change just for Rawhide.

TBH, keeping modules alive is much harder then it was without modules.
Not even mentioning the possibility of having multiple versions ...


Vít


> There would
> still be extra metadata relating to the module to maintain anyway.
>
> Tom
>
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[Bug 1703269] serious typo in Summary

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703269



--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.007-2.fc28 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 28.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-cea20b75e9

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[Bug 1703269] serious typo in Summary

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703269



--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.007-2.fc29 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 29.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-8fa1d1a00c

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[Bug 1703269] serious typo in Summary

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703269

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
perl-Sereal-Encoder-4.007-2.fc30 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 30.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-cd6c7244a7

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[Bug 1703269] serious typo in Summary

2019-04-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703269

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED



--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar  ---
That's indeed a sereous problem. I will fix it.

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Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal: Set skip_if_unavailable default to false

2019-04-26 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:50 PM Jan Pokorný  wrote:
>
> On 25/04/19 09:35 +0200, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
> > Also please note that fedora-cisco-openh264.repo ships with
> > "skip_if_unavailable=true".
>
> off-topic: which in fact doesn't matter much, since you'll, sooner
> or later and whether you want or not, receive non-free (in a sense)
> binaries over the native Firefox channel (guidelines yada yada yada)
> anyway: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1648024

Not entirely off topic, the change description states that Fedora
repositories ship with skip_if_unavailable=false but
fedora-cisco-openh264.repo doesn't.

Thanks for the bug report, that explains what I thought was pebcak
when this was introduced and all I could do was disable the plugin.
But I would argue that bug is off topic ;-)

I just hope the DNF team would implement a retry on failed downloads
to not consider a repository unavailable right off the bat especially
when we have a list of mirrors to pick from.

Dridi
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Fedora 30 RC 1.2 compose check report

2019-04-26 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 1/146 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm)

ID: 391523  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391523
ID: 391526  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391526

Soft failed openQA tests: 3/24 (i386), 3/146 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

ID: 391486  Test: i386 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391486
ID: 391487  Test: i386 Server-dvd-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391487
ID: 391496  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391496
ID: 391505  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391505
ID: 391506  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391506
ID: 391510  Test: i386 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/391510

Passed openQA tests: 142/146 (x86_64), 21/24 (i386)

Skipped non-gating openQA tests: 1 of 172
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[Test-Announce] Fedora 30 Candidate RC-1.2 Available Now!

2019-04-26 Thread Adam Williamson
According to the schedule [1], Fedora 30 Candidate RC-1.2 is now
available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation
testing! For more information on release validation testing, see:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan

Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/30

You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
locations, and enter results on the Summary page:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.2_Summary

The individual test result pages are:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.2_Installation
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.2_Base
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.2_Server
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.2_Cloud
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.2_Desktop
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_30_RC_1.2_Security_Lab

All RC priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must
pass in order to meet the RC Release Criteria [3].

Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the
test list [5].

Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

[1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-30/f-30-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_30_RC_Release_Criteria
[4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[5] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/t...@lists.fedoraproject.org/
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