Re: F31 Self-Contained Change proposal: Include several modules in the EFI build of Grub2 for security use-cases

2019-07-14 Thread Benjamin Doron
Hi all,
Change author here. I think that everything is on-track now. Sorry I hadn't 
seen any of these messages before, there's a newer post over here 
(https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/L64OGN7XWO7VQEUDKFB3IJ2HYUFTSPFA/)
 and I hadn't realised that this had been active. I've posted two scripts over 
there too. I'd appreciate any feedback on them.

Chris,
The only system for automatic decryption with a TPM that I know of is clevis, 
which operates in the initramfs for both LUKS1 and LUKS2. I mention it in the 
change proposal as a recommendation, but it is by no means a requirement.

Petr,
While you are correct, I'd rather attempt to prevent tampering and also set-up 
a system through which to detect any. Besides, this change proposal is simply 
meant to offer security-minded users options that weren't available to them 
before.


Benjamin
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[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2019-07-15 - 95% PASS

2019-07-14 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2019/07/15/report-389-ds-base-1.4.1.4-1.fc30.x86_64.html
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Re: python-oauthlib update

2019-07-14 Thread Chris
Hi! I just wanted to chime in as the maintainer and developer of Apprise.

I'm only using the OAuth v1 client and only for Twitter notifications, so i
don't foresee any issues.  Either way, I'll test it out as per your
advice.  If it's incompatible, I'll do my part and fix it up on my side.

Thank you kindly for the heads up! :)

Chris

On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 4:32 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> Greetings.
> (I am posting this to the devel list and also Bccing the maintainers of
> the involved packages below).
>
> A bit back I updated python-requests-oauthlib to 1.2.0.
>
> I didn't realize at the time that this version needs python-oauthlib
> 3.0.0 or newer.
>
> 3.0.0 is a api breaking major version:
> https://github.com/oauthlib/oauthlib/releases/tag/v3.0.0
>
> The following packages depend on python-oauthlib:
>
> cloud-init
> python-apprise
> python-jira
> python-requests-oauthlib
> python-social-auth-core
>
> From what I can tell:
>
> python-requests-oauthlib is already set for the update.
> python-social-auth-core - uses the oauth1 interface, should be ok.
> python-jira - users the oauth1 interface should be ok.
> python-apprise - uses the oauth1 interface should be ok.
> cloud-init - users the oauth1 interface should be ok.
>
> I will wait until mid next week to hear back from anyone that I
> shouldn't do the update. Otherwise I will go ahead and build 3.0.2 in
> rawhide.
>
> If I've missed any packages or compatibility, please let me know.
>
> Thanks!
>
> kevin
>
>
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Re: roundup of failing images for 2019-07-07

2019-07-14 Thread Rich Mattes

On 7/7/19 7:55 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

6. Fedora robotics live:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=36106496



I've submitted a PR and triggered a rebuild of an offending package to 
get this at least working again.  I'm hoping to dedicate some more time 
this cycle to do some more significant updates.


Rich
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Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-07-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 7/14/19 2:35 PM, John Reiser wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> Neal Gompa wrote:
> 
> [[snip]]
> 
>>> This will also make it impossible for people to locally do multilib
>>> build/installs. It will remove COPR’s ability to do the same. For that
>>> reason alone, I don’t particularly want this change to happen.
> 
>> Can you expand on what you mean by 'locally do' ?
> 
> I want to run "gcc -m32 -o my_app-i686 *.o ..." locally on my own box
> to build executables that run as 32-bit apps on multilib x86_64.
> For some apps 2GB of malloc() arena is plenty, and they run faster
> in 32-bit mode because a 64-byte cache line contains 16 pointers
> instead of only 8.

This should still work, unless there are libraries you use that are not
multilib.

> [[snip]]
> 
>> Finally, if you would prefer this not happen now, is there a time when
>> you would further down the road? Whats the critera/goalpost/cutoff?
> 
> One year after Red Hat Enterprise Linux version 7 reaches end-of-support.
> It would be handy for Fedora to have 32-bit *-devel packages until then.

We will still have 32bit devel packages in the x86_64 repos after this
change. It doesn't affect multilib at all. It only stops building and
publishing the 'pure' i386 repos on the mirror network.

I don't think we can drop multilib until at least steam/wine are ready
for it at least.

kevin






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Re: Orphaned python-breathe

2019-07-14 Thread Dan Čermák
I'll take it: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/8531

Miro Hrončok  writes:

> Upon the maintainers request, I've just orphaned python-breathe.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1706355
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Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-07-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 7/14/19 2:27 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:

> Building library packages and making your own multilib repo is
> impossible without having both the i686 repo and the x86_64 repo, as
> you need to build for both and then munge them together for a multilib
> repo.

Sure. Do many people do that anymore?
> Historically, we really haven’t wanted people to pull from the Koji
> repo, and we probably still don’t want to do that, since it’s not
> mirrored and stressing it could cause more problems our already
> overtaxed build system environment.

I contend that the number of people who would want to do this is
miniscule and in the noise.

No one (sane) would start a 32bit app these days, so likely it's legacy
support. The cases I know of are steam and wine. I am sure there's 3rd
party items beyond that, but even rhel6 is going to go away soon, so
these folks are going to have to come up with some solution really soon.

>>From my point of view, I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of the
> 32-bit x86 repo until we’re at the point where people would not need
> to build their own multilib repositories. The cost of generating that
> for mirroring isn’t that high relative to the amount of pain we’ll
> cause for external folks trying to build off Fedora.

Fair enough. I see it as already at the time when there are very few of
thoese people and we can keep them going for a while by asking them to
use the koji buildroot repo.

> Think, for example, the repo that shall not be named. That project’s
> Koji instance pulls in Fedora through the mirrored content as an
> external source, which feeds its ability to do multilib builds.

Sure, they can repoint that to koji buildroot and keep going.

> I’m sorry, but I don’t see us getting rid of this for the foreseeable
> future without breaking virtually all of our downstreams.

Those few that need to be 32bit applications still. I really don't think
this is "all of our downstreams".

kevin




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Re: manpath.be, man page package checks/policy

2019-07-14 Thread Georg Sauthoff
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 04:49:40PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 04:19:02PM +0200, Georg Sauthoff wrote:
[..]
> > See also its about page https://manpath.be/about for some of its
> > features (e.g. permalinks, short links, reverse links ...).
> 
> Looks interesting. One thing that seems missing at first sight is
> search: it'd be great to have interactive search across sections.
> Right now, it's only easy to find a page is one knows the section
> and the exact name.

Right now you can google search the site like this:

memory management site:manpath.be/f30

This turns up the malloc and fork man pages, for example.

I plan to add a search feature to the site. Probably first a search form
in the left column that redirects the query to a google search like in
the above example. In a second step perhaps I'll also add some internal
search functionality.
 
> One issue that I had before with similar services was that it was
> never possible to rely on any given one to provide _all_ man
> pages. In systemd we link to man pages online from online versions
> of our pages under http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/index.html,
> and we have to link to a bunch of different services
> (man7.org, linux.die.net, mankier.com), because we need to link
> to kernel man pages, and various fringe tools, some distro-specific
> man pages, etc. Two suggestions: 1. pull pages from many different

My approach for Fedora/CentOS is to import all valid man pages from all
available packages (i.e. what is available if you just enable
the fedora/base + updates repositories). 

Thus, with respect to Fedora/CentOS the man page repository should be
pretty complete.

I plan to add more distributions/versions in the future.

> sources, 2. include a suggestion box for people to mention what
> they can't find.

There is a suggestion feature when a requested page isn't found but is
available in another section. For example:

https://manpath.be/f30/2/popen

yields:

Page not found (404)
No such man page: popen(2)
Similar pages:

popen(3)
popen(3p)

(where the alternatives are linked)

If you navigate to a page that is available in a certain section but
also in others the right column lists the alternatives - in case one
wasn't aware of the alternatives - and/or used a suboptimal section.
Example:

https://manpath.be/f30/1/write

lists the alternatives: write(1p), write(2) and write(3p)

Best regards
Georg
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Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-07-14 Thread John Reiser

Kevin Fenzi wrote:

Neal Gompa wrote:


[[snip]]


This will also make it impossible for people to locally do multilib
build/installs. It will remove COPR’s ability to do the same. For that
reason alone, I don’t particularly want this change to happen.



Can you expand on what you mean by 'locally do' ?


I want to run "gcc -m32 -o my_app-i686 *.o ..." locally on my own box
to build executables that run as 32-bit apps on multilib x86_64.
For some apps 2GB of malloc() arena is plenty, and they run faster
in 32-bit mode because a 64-byte cache line contains 16 pointers
instead of only 8.

[[snip]]


Finally, if you would prefer this not happen now, is there a time when
you would further down the road? Whats the critera/goalpost/cutoff?


One year after Red Hat Enterprise Linux version 7 reaches end-of-support.
It would be handy for Fedora to have 32-bit *-devel packages until then.
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Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-07-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 5:21 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
>
> On 7/14/19 1:15 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> > This will also make it impossible for people to locally do multilib
> > build/installs. It will remove COPR’s ability to do the same. For that
> > reason alone, I don’t particularly want this change to happen.
>
> Can you expand on what you mean by 'locally do' ?
>
> Current multilib packages will still be available in the x86_64 repo.
> Users can still install them from there just fine.
>
> If a user wants to locally build a i686 package, they can use mock
> against the koji i686 buildroot repo to do so. They could then put that
> package in a local repo with x86_64 packages and run createrepo on it.
>
> It's true there would be no easily mirrored i386 for them to copy to
> aviod the internet, but is that really a big use case?
>
> Finally, if you would prefer this not happen now, is there a time when
> you would further down the road? Whats the critera/goalpost/cutoff?
>

Building library packages and making your own multilib repo is
impossible without having both the i686 repo and the x86_64 repo, as
you need to build for both and then munge them together for a multilib
repo.

Historically, we really haven’t wanted people to pull from the Koji
repo, and we probably still don’t want to do that, since it’s not
mirrored and stressing it could cause more problems our already
overtaxed build system environment.

From my point of view, I don’t think it’s worth getting rid of the
32-bit x86 repo until we’re at the point where people would not need
to build their own multilib repositories. The cost of generating that
for mirroring isn’t that high relative to the amount of pain we’ll
cause for external folks trying to build off Fedora.

Think, for example, the repo that shall not be named. That project’s
Koji instance pulls in Fedora through the mirrored content as an
external source, which feeds its ability to do multilib builds.

I’m sorry, but I don’t see us getting rid of this for the foreseeable
future without breaking virtually all of our downstreams.




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Re: Difference between pungi and livemedia-creator

2019-07-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 7/14/19 1:19 PM, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> Hi,
> I was using livemedia-creator but I'd want to understand well what's the
> differences between both pungi and livemedia-creator.

pungi is a higher level tool for making everything.

So, pungi talks to koji, gathers rpms, calls createrepo_c to make repos,
calls koji to run livemedia-creator and oz and imagefactory and
appliance-tools to make those images, etc.

So, if you just want a live media, livemedia-creator is likely what you
want.

If you want to make a bunch of deliverables, pungi would likely be a
better fit.

kevin




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Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-07-14 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 7/14/19 1:15 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:

> This will also make it impossible for people to locally do multilib
> build/installs. It will remove COPR’s ability to do the same. For that
> reason alone, I don’t particularly want this change to happen.

Can you expand on what you mean by 'locally do' ?

Current multilib packages will still be available in the x86_64 repo.
Users can still install them from there just fine.

If a user wants to locally build a i686 package, they can use mock
against the koji i686 buildroot repo to do so. They could then put that
package in a local repo with x86_64 packages and run createrepo on it.

It's true there would be no easily mirrored i386 for them to copy to
aviod the internet, but is that really a big use case?

Finally, if you would prefer this not happen now, is there a time when
you would further down the road? Whats the critera/goalpost/cutoff?

kevin




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Difference between pungi and livemedia-creator

2019-07-14 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi,
I was using livemedia-creator but I'd want to understand well what's the
differences between both pungi and livemedia-creator.

Thanks in advance
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Re: Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-07-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 4:10 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Noi686Repositories
>
> (Ben is on vacation, so I announcing this on his behalf.)
>
> == Summary ==
>
> Stop producing and distributing the Modular and Everything i686 repositories.
>
> == Owner ==
>
> * Name: Kevin Fenzi
> * Email: ke...@scrye.com
>
> == Current status ==
> * Targeted release: [[Releases/31| Fedora 31 ]]
> * Last updated:   {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}
> * Tracker bug: 
> * Release notes tracker: 
>
> == Detailed Description ==
>
> With the dropping of the i686 kernel package it's no longer possible to 
> directly
> install Fedora 31 or later on i686 hardware, however, it is still possibly to
> upgrade older releases as long as we continue to provide a repository. This 
> will
> leave those users with an old possibly vulnerable kernel installed.
>
> The only other use/need for the repostories is to allow maintainers to debug 
> and
> test fixes for multilib shipped packages, but the koji buildroot repo can be
> used for this use case.
>
> == Benefit to Fedora ==
>
> * users won't try and upgrade old i686 installs with insecure kernels.
> * compose times will be decreased (no more gathering i686 packages up and
> running createrepo on them).
> * Updates push times will be reduced.
> * disk size on mirrors will be reduced.
>
> == Scope ==
> * Proposal owners:
>
> ** modify pungi-fedora to no longer produce i386 repo for Everything and
> Modular, modify bodhi config for f31+ to not make i386 repos for
> updates/updates-testing.
> ** modify mock to use the koji buildroot for i686 for f31+ for those few users
> that need to build i686 packages locally.
>
> * Other developers: n/a
>
> * Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues 8529]
>
> == Upgrade/compatibility impact ==
>
> i686 users will not be able to upgrade, and will have to move to another
> supported arch.
>

This will also make it impossible for people to locally do multilib
build/installs. It will remove COPR’s ability to do the same. For that
reason alone, I don’t particularly want this change to happen.



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Fedora 31 System-Wide Change proposal (late): No i686 Repositories

2019-07-14 Thread Miro Hrončok

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Noi686Repositories

(Ben is on vacation, so I announcing this on his behalf.)

== Summary ==

Stop producing and distributing the Modular and Everything i686 repositories.

== Owner ==

* Name: Kevin Fenzi
* Email: ke...@scrye.com

== Current status ==
* Targeted release: [[Releases/31| Fedora 31 ]]
* Last updated:   {{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}

* Tracker bug: 
* Release notes tracker: 

== Detailed Description ==

With the dropping of the i686 kernel package it's no longer possible to directly 
install Fedora 31 or later on i686 hardware, however, it is still possibly to 
upgrade older releases as long as we continue to provide a repository. This will 
leave those users with an old possibly vulnerable kernel installed.


The only other use/need for the repostories is to allow maintainers to debug and 
test fixes for multilib shipped packages, but the koji buildroot repo can be 
used for this use case.


== Benefit to Fedora ==

* users won't try and upgrade old i686 installs with insecure kernels.
* compose times will be decreased (no more gathering i686 packages up and 
running createrepo on them).

* Updates push times will be reduced.
* disk size on mirrors will be reduced.

== Scope ==
* Proposal owners:

** modify pungi-fedora to no longer produce i386 repo for Everything and 
Modular, modify bodhi config for f31+ to not make i386 repos for 
updates/updates-testing.
** modify mock to use the koji buildroot for i686 for f31+ for those few users 
that need to build i686 packages locally.


* Other developers: n/a

* Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues 8529]

== Upgrade/compatibility impact ==

i686 users will not be able to upgrade, and will have to move to another 
supported arch.


== How To Test ==

* Confirm that there are no trees under 
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/development/rawhide/Everything/i386/ 
or 
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/development/rawhide/Modular/i386/
* Confirm that there are no trees under 
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/updates/31/{Everything|Modular}/i386 
or 
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/updates/testing/31/{Everything|Modular}/i386
* Confirm that mock can init a chroot for fedora-i386-31 using the koji 
buildroot repository.


== User Experience ==

* Users will get updates and rawhide and rc composes faster.

* Users will not be able to upgrade to a insecure Fedora configuration.


== Contingency Plan ==

i686 trees will just continue to be composed and published. Users can upgrade to 
them (with an old kernel from f30).

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Re: Long standing FTBFS

2019-07-14 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 23. 06. 19 22:38, Miro Hrončok wrote:
The following packages fail to build from source from at least Fedora 28 and 
their FTBFs bugs are still in the NEW state.


Please make them build or retire them from Fedora. If you cannot work on the 
packages but still consider them useful, orphan them:




PyPE https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674593
cas https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674721
cyphesis https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674783
encuentro https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674855
fedora-motd https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674876
gnome-activity-journal https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1674988
googsystray https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675050
ipsilon https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675158
igor https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675141
libhocr https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675279
librapi https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675303
librra https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675308
pyroom https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675708
python-googlevoice https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675741
python-libturpial https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675752
resiprocate https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675888
kupfer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675241
ladish https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675245
libopensync-plugin-python https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675299
qct https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1675829
synce-kpm https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1676103
turpial https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1676167
writetype https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1676219

This is the second reminder sent 3 weeks after the first one.

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Re: manpath.be, man page package checks/policy

2019-07-14 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 04:19:02PM +0200, Georg Sauthoff wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> so I've created https://manpath.be - a site that provides access to the
> man pages of several distributions - including several Fedora and CentOS
> versions.
> 
> See also its about page https://manpath.be/about for some of its
> features (e.g. permalinks, short links, reverse links ...).

Looks interesting. One thing that seems missing at first sight is
search: it'd be great to have interactive search across sections.
Right now, it's only easy to find a page is one knows the section
and the exact name.

One issue that I had before with similar services was that it was
never possible to rely on any given one to provide _all_ man
pages. In systemd we link to man pages online from online versions
of our pages under http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/index.html,
and we have to link to a bunch of different services
(man7.org, linux.die.net, mankier.com), because we need to link
to kernel man pages, and various fringe tools, some distro-specific
man pages, etc. Two suggestions: 1. pull pages from many different
sources, 2. include a suggestion box for people to mention what
they can't find.

I don't have any comment on the issues you listed. It'd be useful to
diagnose such issues automatically. That'd probably help to cut down
on the number of issues.

Zbyszek
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Re: Fedora Data Engineering SIG: interested in a Fedora SIG to work on this?

2019-07-14 Thread Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
Hmm ..

I think I'll do something in between, .. a set of documentation on how to
install and run the softwares , and a set of rpms which contains Fedora
integration (systemd service, profile.d files, wrapper scripts, etc) to
make things works better with Fedora if the user followed the convention
provided by the docs. Which I think it's somewhat similar with the approach
of some existing foss game engine packages which requires separate, manual
download of data files / proprietary components.

Thanks for the feedback!
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[Bug 1727848] perl-Mojolicious-8.20 is available

2019-07-14 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1727848

Emmanuel Seyman  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Mojolicious-8.20-1.fc3
   ||1
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2019-07-14 09:06:38



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[Bug 1728178] perl-Data-ObjectDriver-0.18 is available

2019-07-14 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1728178

Emmanuel Seyman  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Data-ObjectDriver-0.18
   ||-1.fc31
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2019-07-14 09:02:53



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[Bug 1728299] perl-MojoX-JSON-RPC-0.12 is available

2019-07-14 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1728299

Emmanuel Seyman  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-MojoX-JSON-RPC-0.12-1.
   ||fc30
 Resolution|--- |RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2019-07-14 09:02:10



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