Re: sys/timeb.h removed in Rawhide?

[Florian Weimer]

* Ron Olson:

> Pretty much as the subject says, I have a compile failure on Rawhide
> where a cpp file references . I checked and the file is
> not present in Rawhide, it *is* present in Fedora 32 and Fedora 33. I
> haven't found any references to it being deprecated so I'm wondering
> why it's missing.

It's going to come back because its removal breaks compatibility with
the 2001 POSIX standard.  But I expect there will be plenty of
deprecation warnings around it.

Thanks,
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Re: Has glibc just removed some symbols?

[Florian Weimer]

* Jerry James:

> See https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/ocaml-dune?collection=f34
>
> OCaml package builds are suddenly failing because the symbols
> __xstat64, __fxstat64, and __lxstat64 cannot be found, maybe due to
> this change:
>
> - linux: Move {f}xstat{at} to compat symbols
>
> Can the change be reverted until we can figure out exactly which
> packages will have to be rebuilt?

I brought this up on libc-alpha:

  

It's only a problem with static linking, and glibc upstream is slightly
out of sync with actual practices in this area.

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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Florian Weimer]

* Neal Gompa:

> This is a serious violation of glibc's stated promise of infinite
> backwards compatibility. How in the world did this slip through? Can
> we use our gating system to kick back builds that are obviously broken
> that even the package manager stops working?

This issue is not about removal of symbols, it's about adding symbols.
glib picked up new symbols, but glibc was not updated to match.  As a
result, the symbol is missing, even though it hasn't been removed from
glibc.

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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Florian Weimer]

* Fabio Valentini:

> Looks like the most recent glibc update in rawhide broke some stuff,
> including running dnf:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 57, in 
> from dnf.cli import main
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/__init__.py", line 30, in 
> 
> import dnf.base
>   File "/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 29, in 
> import libdnf.transaction
>   File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/__init__.py", line
> 12, in 
> from . import conf
>   File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/conf.py", line 13, in 
> 
> from . import _conf
> ImportError: /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: lstat64,
> version GLIBC_2.33
>
> dnf not working is clearly bad because it will prevent users who get
> the broken glibc update from fixing things, right?

I'm pretty sure this is the result of *not* updating glibc.  Did you
attempt a partial upgrade of rawhide, restricting the package set during
an update?

I cannot reproduce this: In the current compose and buildroot,
libglib-2.0.so.0 and libc.so.6 are consistent.

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Re: Where is python3.9-debuginfo?

[Mamoru TASAKA]

Orion Poplawski wrote on 2020/10/21 11:19:

What am I doing wrong?  This is on my rawhide VM.

$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=*-debuginfo install python3.9-debuginfo
Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:06 ago on Tue 20 Oct 2020 08:08:20 PM MDT.
No match for argument: python3.9-debuginfo
Error: Unable to find a match: python3.9-debuginfo



Well, I also have always trouble with installing "python3.9-debuginfo" and
I have to download directory from koji.

Looking at dnf metadata by
$ unzck -c 
/var/cache/dnf//repodata/-primary.xml.zck | 
less

actually metadata does not contain "python3.9-debuginfo" rpm, so maybe 
something is already
broken when creating dnf metadata??

Regards,
Mamoru
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Re: Where is python3.9-debuginfo?

[Samuel Sieb]

On 10/20/20 7:19 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

What am I doing wrong?  This is on my rawhide VM.

$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=*-debuginfo install python3.9-debuginfo
Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:06 ago on Tue 20 Oct 2020 08:08:20 
PM MDT.

No match for argument: python3.9-debuginfo
Error: Unable to find a match: python3.9-debuginfo


The simpler method is "dnf debuginfo-install python3.9".
(I don't know if the end result will be more successful though.)
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Re: sys/timeb.h removed in Rawhide?

[Christopher]

A quick Google search found this:
https://github.com/bminor/glibc/commit/d6fa3170997b4af0a702eebdae7e4d3c57d74b65
It looks like glibc previously deprecated, and now removed it. You
probably need to use gettimeofday or clock_gettime, as the note says.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 10:27 PM Ron Olson  wrote:
>
> Hey all-
>
> Pretty much as the subject says, I have a compile failure on Rawhide where a 
> cpp file references . I checked and the file is not present in 
> Rawhide, it *is* present in Fedora 32 and Fedora 33. I haven't found any 
> references to it being deprecated so I'm wondering why it's missing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
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sys/timeb.h removed in Rawhide?

[Ron Olson]

Hey all-

Pretty much as the subject says, I have a compile failure on Rawhide where
a cpp file references . I checked and the file is not present
in Rawhide, it *is* present in Fedora 32 and Fedora 33. I haven't found any
references to it being deprecated so I'm wondering why it's missing.

Thanks,

Ron
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Where is python3.9-debuginfo?

[Orion Poplawski]

What am I doing wrong?  This is on my rawhide VM.

$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=*-debuginfo install python3.9-debuginfo
Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:06 ago on Tue 20 Oct 2020 08:08:20 
PM MDT.

No match for argument: python3.9-debuginfo
Error: Unable to find a match: python3.9-debuginfo

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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[DJ Delorie]

Fabio Valentini  writes:
> ImportError: /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: lstat64, version 
> GLIBC_2.33

This looks like something was built against the new glibc, but tried to
run against the old glibc...
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[Bug 1889925] New: perl-Module-CoreList-5.20201020 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889925

Bug ID: 1889925
   Summary: perl-Module-CoreList-5.20201020 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Module-CoreList
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jose.p.oliveira@gmail.com, jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org, spo...@gmail.com,
st...@silug.org
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 5.20201020
Current version/release in rawhide: 5.20200920-1.fc34
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Module-CoreList/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
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Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/3080/


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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Jeff Law]

On 10/20/20 5:14 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-10-20 at 18:47 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> Can
>> we use our gating system to kick back builds that are obviously broken
>> that even the package manager stops working?
> Theoretically, yes, this is possible. We could add this and any other
> functional tests we liked to Fedora CI or openQA and gate on the
> results.
>
> Practically, it would at least require packagers to be conscientious
> about using side tags when building packages that need to be updated
> together, which currently they are not. It's still common practice to,
> say, build libfoo.so.n+1 first directly into rawhide, then rebuild
> libfoo's deps afterwards, without using a side tag. As long as people
> do that we will have trouble doing Rawhide gating on functional
> testing, because any test that uses a dep of libfoo will likely fail on
> the build of libfoo (because there won't be a rebuilt version of the
> dep to test with).
>
> To the point, this happened just recently with dnf and libdnf.
> An soname bump of libdnf was built directly into rawhide first:
>
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1621613
>
> then dnf was built afterwards:
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1621786
>
> any gating 'functional test of the package manager' would have blocked
> the libdnf build because the older dnf would not have worked with the
> new libdnf.
>
> Of course, I guess if we start doing that, it'll teach people to use
> side tags in a hurry. So maybe we should? :)

Perhaps.  In the immediate term, can someone untag the latest glibc
build (big sigh)?


Jeff
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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2020-10-20 at 18:47 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Can
> we use our gating system to kick back builds that are obviously broken
> that even the package manager stops working?

Theoretically, yes, this is possible. We could add this and any other
functional tests we liked to Fedora CI or openQA and gate on the
results.

Practically, it would at least require packagers to be conscientious
about using side tags when building packages that need to be updated
together, which currently they are not. It's still common practice to,
say, build libfoo.so.n+1 first directly into rawhide, then rebuild
libfoo's deps afterwards, without using a side tag. As long as people
do that we will have trouble doing Rawhide gating on functional
testing, because any test that uses a dep of libfoo will likely fail on
the build of libfoo (because there won't be a rebuilt version of the
dep to test with).

To the point, this happened just recently with dnf and libdnf.
An soname bump of libdnf was built directly into rawhide first:

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1621613

then dnf was built afterwards:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1621786

any gating 'functional test of the package manager' would have blocked
the libdnf build because the older dnf would not have worked with the
new libdnf.

Of course, I guess if we start doing that, it'll teach people to use
side tags in a hurry. So maybe we should? :)
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[Bug 1889922] New: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20201020 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889922

Bug ID: 1889922
   Summary: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20201020 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: iarn...@gmail.com, jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 5.20201020
Current version/release in rawhide: 5.20200920-1.fc34
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/CPAN-Perl-Releases/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


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correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Jeff Law]

On 10/20/20 4:47 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:44 PM Jeff Law  wrote:
>>
>> On 10/20/20 4:41 PM, Jerry James wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 4:38 PM Fabio Valentini  
>>> wrote:
 Looks like the most recent glibc update in rawhide broke some stuff,
 including running dnf:
>>> That looks like the same problem I wrote about this morning:
>>>
>>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Q5EL4U5DXCNAA3HSTRPR2XJGJWAGBZ2Z/
>>>
>>> If I'm reading the change correctly, everything referencing those
>>> symbols just needs a rebuild ... but that might be a significant chunk
>>> of the distribution.
>> Upstream glibc is almost certainly putting them back ;-)  I think ftimes
>> already went back in and the others are under discussion right now.
>>
> This is a serious violation of glibc's stated promise of infinite
> backwards compatibility. How in the world did this slip through? Can
> we use our gating system to kick back builds that are obviously broken
> that even the package manager stops working?
>
> Also, I'm surprised that reinstating symbols needs any discussion at
> all. The removals obviously have to be reverted, per their own
> infinite backwards compatibility promise.

They promise backwards compat for existing binaries.  They don't promise
backwards compat at the source level.  The distinction is often important.

The timeb related failures certainly fit in that category -- existing
binaries would continue to work, but nothing could be built that
referenced the timeb header file or the deprecated functions within it. 
Of course, once that change went live they realized that significant
source code still referenced that stuff so they reverted.

I can't comment on the  other symbols other than knowing upstream was
looking to reinstate them this morning -- I didn't dig into those as
they didn't impact the issue I was working on yesterday.


jeff

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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Neal Gompa]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 6:44 PM Jeff Law  wrote:
>
>
> On 10/20/20 4:41 PM, Jerry James wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 4:38 PM Fabio Valentini  
> > wrote:
> >> Looks like the most recent glibc update in rawhide broke some stuff,
> >> including running dnf:
> > That looks like the same problem I wrote about this morning:
> >
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Q5EL4U5DXCNAA3HSTRPR2XJGJWAGBZ2Z/
> >
> > If I'm reading the change correctly, everything referencing those
> > symbols just needs a rebuild ... but that might be a significant chunk
> > of the distribution.
>
> Upstream glibc is almost certainly putting them back ;-)  I think ftimes
> already went back in and the others are under discussion right now.
>

This is a serious violation of glibc's stated promise of infinite
backwards compatibility. How in the world did this slip through? Can
we use our gating system to kick back builds that are obviously broken
that even the package manager stops working?

Also, I'm surprised that reinstating symbols needs any discussion at
all. The removals obviously have to be reverted, per their own
infinite backwards compatibility promise.



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Re: Has glibc just removed some symbols?

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 4:42 PM Fabio Valentini  wrote:
> And of course I started a separate thread with that issue because I'm
> tired and forgot your post ...

Sounds like a great excuse to go get some rest and come back to find
out what somebody did to fix this. :-)
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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Jeff Law]

On 10/20/20 4:41 PM, Jerry James wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 4:38 PM Fabio Valentini  wrote:
>> Looks like the most recent glibc update in rawhide broke some stuff,
>> including running dnf:
> That looks like the same problem I wrote about this morning:
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Q5EL4U5DXCNAA3HSTRPR2XJGJWAGBZ2Z/
>
> If I'm reading the change correctly, everything referencing those
> symbols just needs a rebuild ... but that might be a significant chunk
> of the distribution.

Upstream glibc is almost certainly putting them back ;-)  I think ftimes
already went back in and the others are under discussion right now.

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Re: Has glibc just removed some symbols?

[Fabio Valentini]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 4:06 PM Jerry James  wrote:
>
> See https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/ocaml-dune?collection=f34
>
> OCaml package builds are suddenly failing because the symbols
> __xstat64, __fxstat64, and __lxstat64 cannot be found, maybe due to
> this change:
>
> - linux: Move {f}xstat{at} to compat symbols
>
> Can the change be reverted until we can figure out exactly which
> packages will have to be rebuilt?

I've just encountered a similar issue.

dnf on rawhide is now failing to start because of missing symbols,
which is pretty bad:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 57, in 
from dnf.cli import main
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/__init__.py", line 30, in 
import dnf.base
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 29, in 
import libdnf.transaction
  File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/__init__.py", line
12, in 
from . import conf
  File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/conf.py", line 13, in 
from . import _conf
ImportError: /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: lstat64,
version GLIBC_2.33

And of course I started a separate thread with that issue because I'm
tired and forgot your post ...

Fabio
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Re: glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Jerry James]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 4:38 PM Fabio Valentini  wrote:
> Looks like the most recent glibc update in rawhide broke some stuff,
> including running dnf:

That looks like the same problem I wrote about this morning:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/Q5EL4U5DXCNAA3HSTRPR2XJGJWAGBZ2Z/

If I'm reading the change correctly, everything referencing those
symbols just needs a rebuild ... but that might be a significant chunk
of the distribution.
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glibc troubles in rawhide?

[Fabio Valentini]

Hi everybody,

Looks like the most recent glibc update in rawhide broke some stuff,
including running dnf:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/dnf", line 57, in 
from dnf.cli import main
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/__init__.py", line 30, in 
import dnf.base
  File "/usr/lib/python3.9/site-packages/dnf/base.py", line 29, in 
import libdnf.transaction
  File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/__init__.py", line
12, in 
from . import conf
  File "/usr/lib64/python3.9/site-packages/libdnf/conf.py", line 13, in 
from . import _conf
ImportError: /lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: lstat64,
version GLIBC_2.33

dnf not working is clearly bad because it will prevent users who get
the broken glibc update from fixing things, right?

Fabio
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log4cxx soname bump

[Till Hofmann]

Hi all,

I'll upgrade log4cxx to 0.11.0, which bumps the soname.

The only dependency is fawkes, which I will rebuild.

Kind regards,
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Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

[Peter Robinson]

b

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 8:49 PM Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
 wrote:
>
> On 19.10.2020 17:25, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:16 pm, Arnoldas Skinderis
> >  wrote:
> >> I'am also have Thikpads and MSI running BIOS and some of those
> >> machines  still are the beast in some terms. Dropping BIOS would
> >> pretty much force me to use something else.
> >> I don't want to lose Fedora.
> >
> > This proposal was soundly rejected, so don't worry about it.
>
>
> Never was an official proposal to begin with so I cant see how it was
> "soundly rejected" but yes the dialog highlighted that there will be
> quite few years before the distribution can get to the point where an
> official proposal can be made. Maybe 2024 would be a target goal for
> such effort. Regardless consensus has to be reached on how long/old
> hardware should be supported so people expectations can be
> raised/lowered accordingly. Arguably something that the Council should
> look at.

While I don't actually believe old hardware should be dropped I don't
believe there was a consensus reached.

Fedora is a distribution that aims to be first so I believe there
should be work done so that spins or editions that wish to be able to
drop support for BIOS installs while other parts of the distribution
retaining compatibility for legacy platforms be enable to do so and I
don't feel that that discussion has been had, a lot of the discussion
was focused on single people "this is my use case" not the wider use
cases of the distribution or what SIGs are interested in.
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Fedora-IoT-32-20201020.0 compose check report

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ID: 702772  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis
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Passed openQA tests: 15/16 (x86_64)

Installed system changes in test x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default_upload: 
System load changed from 0.30 to 0.15
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[Bug 1886862] perl-WebService-Rajce-1.202830 is available

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   |.830-1.fc31 |.830-1.fc31
   ||perl-WebService-Rajce-1.202
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Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

[Jóhann B . Guðmundsson]

On 19.10.2020 17:25, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 8:16 pm, Arnoldas Skinderis 
 wrote:
I'am also have Thikpads and MSI running BIOS and some of those 
machines  still are the beast in some terms. Dropping BIOS would 
pretty much force me to use something else.

I don't want to lose Fedora.


This proposal was soundly rejected, so don't worry about it. 



Never was an official proposal to begin with so I cant see how it was 
"soundly rejected" but yes the dialog highlighted that there will be 
quite few years before the distribution can get to the point where an 
official proposal can be made. Maybe 2024 would be a target goal for 
such effort. Regardless consensus has to be reached on how long/old 
hardware should be supported so people expectations can be 
raised/lowered accordingly. Arguably something that the Council should 
look at.



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[Bug 1888288] perl-EV in epel8

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[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

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The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
  13  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-b15161810d   
pdns-4.3.1-1.el8
   5  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-69c0102261   
singularity-3.6.4-1.el8
   4  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-b7912a8edb   
suricata-5.0.4-1.el8
   1  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-e85de73cdb   
pdns-recursor-4.3.5-1.el8


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing

awesome-vim-colorschemes-0-11.20200911git41a0d9e.el8
cscppc-1.8.1-1.el8
csdiff-1.9.0-1.el8
csmock-2.6.0-1.el8
cswrap-1.9.0-1.el8
editline-1.17.1-2.el8
perl-EV-4.22-1.el8

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 awesome-vim-colorschemes-0-11.20200911git41a0d9e.el8 
(FEDORA-EPEL-2020-ee0b755042)
 Collection of color schemes for Neo/vim, merged for quick use

Update Information:

Update to latest version

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Artem Polishchuk  - 
0-11.20200911git41a0d9e
- build(update): commit 41a0d9e
* Mon Jul 27 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0-10.20191209gitb5037cb
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild
* Tue Jan 28 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0-9.20191209gitb5037cb
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_32_Mass_Rebuild




 cscppc-1.8.1-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-c0286e89f6)
 A compiler wrapper that runs cppcheck in background

Update Information:

- update to the latest upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Kamil Dudka  1.8.1-1
- update to latest upstream release




 csdiff-1.9.0-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-c0286e89f6)
 Non-interactive tools for processing code scan results in plain-text

Update Information:

- update to the latest upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Kamil Dudka  1.9.0-1
- update to latest upstream release




 csmock-2.6.0-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-c0286e89f6)
 A mock wrapper for Static Analysis tools

Update Information:

- update to the latest upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Kamil Dudka  2.6.0-1
- update to latest upstream release




 cswrap-1.9.0-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-c0286e89f6)
 Generic compiler wrapper

Update Information:

- update to the latest upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Kamil Dudka  1.9.0-1
- update to latest upstream




 editline-1.17.1-2.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-c508531951)
 A small compatible replacement for readline

Update Information:

small compatible replacement for readline

ChangeLog:


References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1867290 - Review Request: editline - A small compatible 
replacement for readline
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1867290




 perl-EV-4.22-1.el8 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-da3639cc2e)
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This 

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora EPEL 7 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
   4  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-d015f19e05   
singularity-3.6.4-1.el7
   4  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-01179f6b9f   
suricata-4.1.9-1.el7


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 7 updates-testing

cscppc-1.8.1-1.el7
csdiff-1.9.0-1.el7
csmock-2.6.0-1.el7
cswrap-1.9.0-1.el7
editline-1.17.1-2.el7
sympa-6.2.58-1.el7

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 A compiler wrapper that runs cppcheck in background

Update Information:

- update to the latest upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Kamil Dudka  1.8.1-1
- update to latest upstream release




 csdiff-1.9.0-1.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-bdf04699aa)
 Non-interactive tools for processing code scan results in plain-text

Update Information:

- update to the latest upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Kamil Dudka  1.9.0-1
- update to latest upstream release




 csmock-2.6.0-1.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-bdf04699aa)
 A mock wrapper for Static Analysis tools

Update Information:

- update to the latest upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Kamil Dudka  2.6.0-1
- update to latest upstream release




 cswrap-1.9.0-1.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-bdf04699aa)
 Generic compiler wrapper

Update Information:

- update to the latest upstream release

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Kamil Dudka  1.9.0-1
- update to latest upstream




 editline-1.17.1-2.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-10f5ee1341)
 A small compatible replacement for readline

Update Information:

small compatible replacement for readline

ChangeLog:


References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1867290 - Review Request: editline - A small compatible 
replacement for readline
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1867290




 sympa-6.2.58-1.el7 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-96fc1e07de)
 Powerful multilingual List Manager

Update Information:

From upstream release notes: - No owner defined in a list is no longer treated
as erroneous configuration - Unexpected synchronization of included users will
no longer occur - Command line option to rebuild archives of particular list

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Xavier Bachelot  6.2.58-1
- Update to 6.2.58
* Wed Jul 29 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
6.2.56-2.1
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jul 13 2020 Xavier Bachelot  6.2.56-2
- Prepare for some js packages retirement in Fedora

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1861996 - Failed to install on rawhide
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1861996
  [ 2 ] Bug #1876789 - Update to upstream 6.2.57
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1876789


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The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
   5  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-2dbce134fd   
singularity-3.6.4-1.el6


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing

sympa-6.2.58-1.el6

Details about builds:



 sympa-6.2.58-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2020-059f0b7454)
 Powerful multilingual List Manager

Update Information:

From upstream release notes: - No owner defined in a list is no longer treated
as erroneous configuration - Unexpected synchronization of included users will
no longer occur - Command line option to rebuild archives of particular list

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 20 2020 Xavier Bachelot  6.2.58-1
- Update to 6.2.58
* Wed Jul 29 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
6.2.56-2.1
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild
* Mon Jul 13 2020 Xavier Bachelot  6.2.56-2
- Prepare for some js packages retirement in Fedora

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1861996 - Failed to install on rawhide
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1861996
  [ 2 ] Bug #1876789 - Update to upstream 6.2.57
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1876789


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Re: Orphaned packages (including pdc-client) looking for new maintainers

[Brandon Nielsen]

On 10/20/20 2:14 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 3:11 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:


On 10/20/20 9:08 PM, Brandon Nielsen wrote:

I would be interested in taking celt071 if nobody else wants it. I use Mumble
regularly.


See also https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2478#comment-695972



I adopted it before seeing this comment, and then orphaned it again
afterward. Whoops!





Fair enough, I retract my interest!
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Re: Orphaned packages (including pdc-client) looking for new maintainers

[Neal Gompa]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 3:11 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> On 10/20/20 9:08 PM, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> > I would be interested in taking celt071 if nobody else wants it. I use 
> > Mumble
> > regularly.
>
> See also https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2478#comment-695972
>

I adopted it before seeing this comment, and then orphaned it again
afterward. Whoops!



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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

[Ben Cotton]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2020-10-21 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net
>
Here are the nominated bugs to be discussed tomorrow:

* glibc: Back out glibc-rhbz1869030-faccessat2-eperm.patch workaround
for systemd UAPI breakage
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1869030
* [Rawhide/Fedora33] gcc crashes at brew during Firefox build
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1886399

There are currently no accepted Prioritized Bugs.

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Re: Orphaned packages (including pdc-client) looking for new maintainers

[Miro Hrončok]

On 10/20/20 9:08 PM, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
I would be interested in taking celt071 if nobody else wants it. I use Mumble 
regularly.


See also https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2478#comment-695972

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Re: Orphaned packages (including pdc-client) looking for new maintainers

[Brandon Nielsen]

On 10/19/20 4:55 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote:

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for 
sure

that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life


[Snip]

I would be interested in taking celt071 if nobody else wants it. I use 
Mumble regularly. The only wrinkle is I'm not currently a packager, 
though I do have a package in review[0] that I grossly underestimated 
the complexity of.


I was hoping to get rnnoise[1] included in Fedora and enabled in Mumble. 
I already have it packaged[2] and was hoping to submit it after the 
hundred years war with my first package reached its conclusion, but 
perhaps I should submit it for review now in the hopes of being able to 
adopt celt071?


[0] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1350884
[1] - https://github.com/xiph/rnnoise
[2] - 
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/nielsenb/mumble/package/rnnoise/

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[Bug 1886862] perl-WebService-Rajce-1.202830 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1886862

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version|perl-WebService-Rajce-1.202 |perl-WebService-Rajce-1.202
   |.830-1.fc34 |.830-1.fc34
   ||perl-WebService-Rajce-1.202
   ||.830-1.fc31
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2020-10-20 19:02:43



--- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-0a104d397c has been pushed to the Fedora 31 stable repository.
If problem still persists, please make note of it in this bug report.


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[Bug 1889632] Upgrade perl-Text-Sprintf-Named to 0.0405

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889632



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-6fd40105c4 has been pushed to the Fedora 32 testing repository.
In short time you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
--advisory=FEDORA-2020-6fd40105c4`
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-6fd40105c4

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information
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[Bug 1889341] perl-Test-Run-CmdLine-0.0132 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889341



--- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-95a71e75a0 has been pushed to the Fedora 32 testing repository.
In short time you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
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--advisory=FEDORA-2020-95a71e75a0`
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https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-95a71e75a0

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information
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[2020-10-20] Fedora i3 SIG Meeting Minutes

[Justin W. Flory (he/him)]

Hi folks, the i3 SIG met again for our second and final meeting for
October. This week's call was a video call. The recording is being
uploaded, but for now, check out the meeting summary below.

Some Pull Requests that followed up on our meeting discussions today:


* Docs:
* Kickstart: Import README from Spin repo
* Ideas: Initial import from i3 Spin repo

https://pagure.io/i3-sig/docs/pull-request/4
https://pagure.io/i3-sig/docs/pull-request/6


* Spin:
* README: Add badges, add outlinks to SIG activity points
* Cleanup: Remove exported docs, flatten/simplify directory
  hierarchy

https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/pull-request/19
https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/pull-request/20

Minutes below.


= = = = =

Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 17:01:27 2020 UTC.

Minutes:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-i3/2020-10-20/i3.2020-10-20-16.20.html
Minutes (text):
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-i3/2020-10-20/i3.2020-10-20-16.20.txt
Log:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-i3/2020-10-20/i3.2020-10-20-16.20.log.html

* * * * *

=
#fedora-i3: Fedora i3 SIG Meeting - Video (Jitsi) edition
=


Meeting started by jwf at 16:20:39 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-i3/2020-10-20/i3.2020-10-20-16.20.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* Join the video call! Recording is ON. https://meet.jit.si/fedora-i3
  (jwf, 16:21:13)
  * LINK: https://meet.jit.si/fedora-i3   (jwf, 16:21:15)
  * ACTION: i3-sig F34 Change Proposal ticket: Please give +1 or -1 with
feedback ASAP. https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/4
(jwf, 16:21:44)
  * LINK: https://hackmd.io/d8duYeKaQemJZypirIQRQQ?both   (jwf,
16:21:56)
  * LINK:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/spins.lists.fedoraproject.org/
(jwf, 16:24:41)
  * ACTION: x3mboy[m] Drop a note to the sp...@lists.fp.o list about the
GTK race condition bug, in case other Spin maintainers have seen
this issue before.  (jwf, 16:25:11)
  * ACTION: nasirhm Split kickstart up and follow up by next i3 SIG
meeting (Tue 4 Nov 2020)  (jwf, 16:33:26)
  * AGREED: Enable dunst by default (both installation and live-session)
(jwf, 16:38:56)
  * AGREED: Don't include update notifications  (jwf, 16:39:03)
  * AGREED: We're good with `feh` for setting up the Wallpaper, Research
on How wallpaper is rendered.  (jwf, 16:39:15)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/blob/master/f/Ideas.md
(x3mboy[m], 16:40:05)
  * AGREED: Packages added to i3-core: network-manager-applet,
pavucontrol, volumeicon  (jwf, 16:45:01)
  * IDEA: Send out a Limesurvey to community about test cases and
software requests for i3 Spin  (jwf, 16:55:13)
  * ACTION: jwf Ping siddharthvipul for help with Limesurvey  (jwf,
16:55:24)
  * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/tree/master   (odilhao,
16:57:16)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/i3/Brainstorm
(x3mboy[m], 16:58:52)
  * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/SIGs/   (jwf,
17:01:09)
  * ACTION: x3mboy[m] Drop a ping to siddharthvipul about fixing the
Fedocal meeting day/time for i3 SIG  (jwf, 17:01:22)

Meeting ended at 17:01:27 UTC.




Action Items

* i3-sig F34 Change Proposal ticket: Please give +1 or -1 with feedback
  ASAP. https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/4
* x3mboy[m] Drop a note to the sp...@lists.fp.o list about the GTK race
  condition bug, in case other Spin maintainers have seen this issue
  before.
* nasirhm Split kickstart up and follow up by next i3 SIG meeting (Tue 4
  Nov 2020)
* jwf Ping siddharthvipul for help with Limesurvey
* x3mboy[m] Drop a ping to siddharthvipul about fixing the Fedocal
  meeting day/time for i3 SIG




Action Items, by person
---
* i3-sig
  * i3-sig F34 Change Proposal ticket: Please give +1 or -1 with
feedback ASAP. https://pagure.io/i3-sig/Fedora-i3-Spin/issue/4
* jwf
  * jwf Ping siddharthvipul for help with Limesurvey
* nasirhm
  * nasirhm Split kickstart up and follow up by next i3 SIG meeting (Tue
4 Nov 2020)
* x3mboy
  * x3mboy[m] Drop a note to the sp...@lists.fp.o list about the GTK
race condition bug, in case other Spin maintainers have seen this
issue before.
  * x3mboy[m] Drop a ping to siddharthvipul about fixing the Fedocal
meeting day/time for i3 SIG
* x3mboy[m]
  * x3mboy[m] Drop a note to the sp...@lists.fp.o list about the GTK
race condition bug, in case other Spin maintainers have seen this
issue before.
  * x3mboy[m] Drop a ping to siddharthvipul about fixing the Fedocal
meeting day/time for i3 SIG
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
---
* jwf (25)
* zodbot (8)
* x3mboy[m] (3)
* nasirhm (2)
* odilhao (1)
* i3-sig (0)
* x3mboy (0)
* defolos (0)




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[Bug 1889632] Upgrade perl-Text-Sprintf-Named to 0.0405

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889632

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-35757c325e has been pushed to the Fedora 31 testing repository.
In short time you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
--advisory=FEDORA-2020-35757c325e`
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-35757c325e

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[Bug 1889341] perl-Test-Run-CmdLine-0.0132 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889341



--- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-53e7947f45 has been pushed to the Fedora 31 testing repository.
In short time you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
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[389-devel] please review: PR 4388 - remove Perl legacy tools

[Mark Reynolds]

https://github.com/389ds/389-ds-base/pull/4388

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[389-devel] Re: Mapping tree rework

[Pierre Rogier]

Hi,

As we are speaking about the test, we should not forget to test the
different
mapping tree usages:
   the common ones  (like standard, chaining or referral on update backends)
   and the uncommon ones (like those involving the various distribution
plugins)
I am a bit uneasy about thoses, as I remember they sometimes involved weird
configuration and custom plugins), that said it is old stories and things
have probably changed. Let's hope that we now have a nice list of supported
distribution scenarios
 that could be tested ...

Regards,
   Pierre

On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:10 PM Mark Reynolds  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So some of the arguments here is that we are introducing risk for
> something that is not really a big problem.  Or, simply not worth investing
> in. From a Red Hat perspective "we" would *never* fix this, it's just not
> a problem that comes up enough to justify the work and time.  But...  The
> initial work has been done by the upstream community (William).  So from a
> RH perspective we are getting this work for free.  Personally I don't see
> this code change as "very" risky, but this is a very sensitive area of the
> code.  That being said, I am not opposed to adding it, but...  I think we
> need much more testing around it to build confidence in the patch.  I would
> want tests that deal with suffixes of varying size, names, nested
> levels/complexity:
>
> o=my_server.com
>
> dc=example,dc=com
>
> dc=abcdef,dc=abc  (same length as suffix above - since the patch uses
> sizing as a way of sorting)
>
> dc=test,dc=this,dc=patch
>
>
> I want tests that are adding and removing subsuffixes, and
> sub-subsuffixes, and making sure ldap ops work, and replication, etc.  I
> want tests that use many different suffixes at the same time and many
> subsuffixes - some customers have 50 subsuffixes.  Our current CI test
> suite does not have these kinds of tests, and we need them.
>
> As of today I'm not comfortable with the current CI tests to ack this
> patch, but if we can ramp it up and cover more scenarios it would be a step
> in the right direction.  This is all just my humble opinion, we are all
> still just talking :-)
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
> On 10/19/20 6:47 AM, Pierre Rogier wrote:
>
> Hi William,
>
> Things are not black and white:
>there is a huge difference between a fix with limited impact (like
> adding some check in configuration tools or in the server) and redesigning
> something that is used in many different contexts for every request handled
> by the server ...
>
> In the first case we could easily mitigate the risk by testing and be
> fairly confident, in the second case the tests are too complex to achieve
> the same confidence and we should take this kind of risk only if there were
> a serious benefit to balance it, but in this case, there are other
> solutions with less risks.
>
> I can understand it could seem too conservervative and frustrating but
> that is the price when working on mature projects. If you do not do that,
> the product becomes unstable, and users quickly abandon it.
>
> Regards,
>Pierre
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 1:27 AM William Brown  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On 16 Oct 2020, at 17:48, Pierre Rogier  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi William,
>> > I agree with your architecture points and that is why I said my
>> proposal is a less appealing trade off.
>> >
>> > My real concern is your last point:
>> >  we just do not know and IMHO we are unable to predict what (or if)
>> config will cause problems, and I am afraid we will only discover it when
>> people start to complain.
>> > So I still think that the benefit/risk ratio is bad)
>> >
>>
>> I think this wasn't my point. The thing is *any* change will have that
>> "unknown" risk. Our job is to qualify and identify as many of those risks
>> as we can, to remove them as unknowns. Think about the work recently to
>> merge the changelog to the main db, or BDB to LMDB work, even changing from
>> perl to python for installation. These are all significantly larger
>> changes, which would be "much riskier" but all of them have been managed
>> effectively by the team communicating, coordinating, analysing, designing
>> and testing changes.
>>
>> So I really don't accept this "unknown" risk argument. I have laid out a
>> design that explores the configuration, how it works today and how the
>> values are currently trusted, and a process to manage and understand this
>> change in a way to minimise the risk. There are associated tests, and it
>> passes with address sanitiser, and other test cases for mapping trees,
>> replication and others.
>>
>> If we just say "unknown risk" at every change we make we'd never
>> progress. We may as well packup and go home, the project is completed.
>>
>> So I still stand by my design and the PR I have submitted in this case,
>> and if there are concerns about esoteric configurations, then we should
>> identify and understand them too beyond the testing I have already provided.
>>
>> —

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2020-10-21)

[Fabio Valentini]

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Wednesday at 14:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on
irc.freenode.net.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto

or run:
  date -d '2020-10-21 14:00 UTC'


Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

= Discussed and Voted in the Ticket =

Nonresponsive maintainer: fedpop
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2478
APPROVED (+3, 0, -0)

F34 Self-Contained Change: Compress Kernel Firmware
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2485
APPROVED (+4, 0, -0)

F34 System-Wide Change: DNS Over TLS
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2486
APPROVED (+4, 0, -0)

Updates Policy exception: rpkg-macros 1.0 and preproc-rpmspec 1.1
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2488
APPROVED (+3, 0, -0)

F34 Self-Contained Change: Reduce installation media size by
eliminating the intermediate EXT4 filesystem in the SquashFS
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2489
APPROVED (+4, 0, -0)

= Followups =

#topic #2479 F33 UEFI Secure Boot signing keys
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2479

= New business =

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Re: Removing unsupported AUTH_DES interfaces in libtirpc.

[Steve Dickson]

Hey... 

Thanks for all the input!

On 10/19/20 1:21 PM, Steve Dickson wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> About a year ago I stub out the interfaces
> and had them return an error if called. 
> No one has complained... 
> 
> This time I would like to remove interfaces
> so there will be no support whatsoever to 
> pass some upcoming audits... 
> 
> This means I will need to change the SONAME for 
> libtirpc which will effect a large other packages.
> 
> The last time I did this all hell broke out so
> I'm trying to avoid that this time.
> 
> So can someone please point me to the correct
> way to change a SONAME without cause total chaos
> 

It sounds like I'm trying to fix something that is 
not broken... and I too want want to keep the 
ABI as stable as possible.

So I will nix the idea of changing the SONAME 
and just remove functions from the header files.

Thanks again!!

steved.
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corsepiu pushed to perl-Return-Type (f33). "Upgrade to 0.007."

[notifications]

Notification time stamped 2020-10-20 16:03:13 UTC

From d5b2ff35266033993827428bdbdbefc00c36bdae Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Ralf Corsépius 
Date: Oct 20 2020 15:53:10 +
Subject: Upgrade to 0.007.


---

diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index ab6300c..b692540 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1 +1 @@
-/Return-Type-0.005.tar.gz
+/Return-Type-0.007.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Return-Type.spec b/perl-Return-Type.spec
index e64986a..9cf054a 100644
--- a/perl-Return-Type.spec
+++ b/perl-Return-Type.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Return-Type
-Version:0.005
-Release:12%{?dist}
+Version:0.007
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Specify a return type for a function
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:https://metacpan.org/release/Return-Type
@@ -56,6 +56,9 @@ library are supported.
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Oct 20 2020 Ralf Corsépius  - 0.007-1
+- Upgrade to 0.007.
+
 * Tue Jul 28 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0.005-12
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 0f95d21..7338aa4 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-SHA512 (Return-Type-0.005.tar.gz) = 
3becf953b58102d771a88408e51d13158e667da98a4dcae2cf6b51cb0b90a7fb94a220a037ffcf9834ea47a47f69e756fc070d5b9a01ea5709fd9fb291701fb6
+SHA512 (Return-Type-0.007.tar.gz) = 
b99af812cfbaa18e706f410001cfe8646b1a6e71b5fd77ca2459f211620773d55129c16d0b5305b39a66050d4faeadea78507c2422ee72910c0edd99cb5c32dc



https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Return-Type/c/d5b2ff35266033993827428bdbdbefc00c36bdae?branch=f33
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corsepiu pushed to perl-Return-Type (master). "Upgrade to 0.007."

[notifications]

Notification time stamped 2020-10-20 15:56:49 UTC

From d5b2ff35266033993827428bdbdbefc00c36bdae Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Ralf Corsépius 
Date: Oct 20 2020 15:53:10 +
Subject: Upgrade to 0.007.


---

diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index ab6300c..b692540 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1 +1 @@
-/Return-Type-0.005.tar.gz
+/Return-Type-0.007.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Return-Type.spec b/perl-Return-Type.spec
index e64986a..9cf054a 100644
--- a/perl-Return-Type.spec
+++ b/perl-Return-Type.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Return-Type
-Version:0.005
-Release:12%{?dist}
+Version:0.007
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Specify a return type for a function
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:https://metacpan.org/release/Return-Type
@@ -56,6 +56,9 @@ library are supported.
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Oct 20 2020 Ralf Corsépius  - 0.007-1
+- Upgrade to 0.007.
+
 * Tue Jul 28 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
0.005-12
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 0f95d21..7338aa4 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-SHA512 (Return-Type-0.005.tar.gz) = 
3becf953b58102d771a88408e51d13158e667da98a4dcae2cf6b51cb0b90a7fb94a220a037ffcf9834ea47a47f69e756fc070d5b9a01ea5709fd9fb291701fb6
+SHA512 (Return-Type-0.007.tar.gz) = 
b99af812cfbaa18e706f410001cfe8646b1a6e71b5fd77ca2459f211620773d55129c16d0b5305b39a66050d4faeadea78507c2422ee72910c0edd99cb5c32dc



https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Return-Type/c/d5b2ff35266033993827428bdbdbefc00c36bdae?branch=master
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[Test-Announce] [Test Week] Kernel 5.9 2020-10-26

[Sumantro Mukherjee]

Hey All,

I would like to invite all of you to participate in the Kernel 5.9
Test week which is happening from 2020-10-26 to 2020-11-02. It's
fairly simple, head over to the wiki [0] and read in details about the
test week and simply run the test case mentioned in[1] and enter your
results.

As usual, the Fedora QA team will hangout at #fedora-test-day@freenode
for questions and discussion.


[0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2020-10-26_Kernel_5.9_Test_Week
[1] http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/97


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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 33 Candidate RC-1.2 Available Now!

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2020-10-20 at 01:21 +, rawh...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> According to the schedule [1], Fedora 33 Candidate RC-1.2 is now
> available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation
> testing! For more information on release validation testing, see:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
> 
> Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
> https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/33
> 
> You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
> locations, and enter results on the Summary page:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_RC_1.2_Summary
> 
> The individual test result pages are:
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_RC_1.2_Installation
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_RC_1.2_Base
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_RC_1.2_Server
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_RC_1.2_Cloud
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_RC_1.2_Desktop
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_33_RC_1.2_Security_Lab
> 
> All RC priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must
> pass in order to meet the RC Release Criteria [3].
> 
> Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the
> test list [5].
> 
> Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
> http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
> 
> [1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-33/f-33-quality-tasks.html
> [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
> [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_RC_Release_Criteria
> [4] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
> [5] 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/t...@lists.fedoraproject.org/

Just to keep everyone in the loop here: this candidate has all known
blocker fixes, *except*
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1883609 . The planned fix
for that is a new shim build that is signed with a key that will not be
revoked, but we're still waiting on that to be built and signed.

We wanted to give FESCo the option at Thursday's go/no-go of deciding
not to block on the re-signed shim any more, so we did this compose.
The plan is to do full testing on it, and if that doesn't turn up any
other blockers, we'll decide whether to ship it on Thursday. So if
folks can please try to help get complete test results on this
candidate, that'd be great.

Thanks very much!
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[Bug 1883530] Add perl-Curses-UI to EPEL8

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1883530

Dave Johansen  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Flags|needinfo?(davejohansen@gmai |
   |l.com)  |



--- Comment #2 from Dave Johansen  ---
I'm not currently maintaining packages for EPEL/RHEL, so sorry but I can't help
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Re: saratech

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[Bug 1889575] perl-Graph-0.9706 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889575

Upstream Release Monitoring  
changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|perl-Graph-0.9705 is|perl-Graph-0.9706 is
   |available   |available



--- Comment #2 from Upstream Release Monitoring 
 ---
Latest upstream release: 0.9706
Current version/release in rawhide: 0.97.04-15.fc33
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Graph/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/7524/


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Fedora-IoT-33-20201020.0 compose check report

[Fedora compose checker]

No missing expected images.

Soft failed openQA tests: 1/16 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-IoT-33-20201019.0):

ID: 702688  Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702688

Passed openQA tests: 15/16 (x86_64)

Installed system changes in test x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
System load changed from 0.08 to 0.20
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700994#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702691#downloads
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[Bug 1889341] perl-Test-Run-CmdLine-0.0132 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889341

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-c565d127ca has been pushed to the Fedora 33 testing repository.
In short time you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
--advisory=FEDORA-2020-c565d127ca`
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-c565d127ca

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information
on how to test updates.


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[Bug 1888513] perl-Math-FFT-1.36 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888513



--- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-5a8de7186f has been pushed to the Fedora 33 testing repository.
In short time you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
--advisory=FEDORA-2020-5a8de7186f`
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https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-5a8de7186f

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information
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[Bug 1889027] perl-DateTime-TimeZone-2.42 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889027



--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-4c709aaaf3 has been pushed to the Fedora 33 testing repository.
In short time you'll be able to install the update with the following command:
`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
--advisory=FEDORA-2020-4c709aaaf3`
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https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-4c709aaaf3

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information
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[Bug 1889198] perlbrew-0.89 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889198

Fedora Update System  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-d41c37dd89 has been pushed to the Fedora 33 testing repository.
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`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
--advisory=FEDORA-2020-d41c37dd89`
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https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-d41c37dd89

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[Bug 1889161] perl-Verilog-Perl-3.472 is available

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889161

Fedora Update System  changed:

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 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



--- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-9eb31fb6d5 has been pushed to the Fedora 33 testing repository.
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`sudo dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
--advisory=FEDORA-2020-9eb31fb6d5`
You can provide feedback for this update here:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-9eb31fb6d5

See also https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Updates_Testing for more information
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[Bug 1889018] perl-Devel-PPPort-3.62 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889018

Fedora Update System  changed:

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 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA



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[Bug 1888767] perl-Devel-CheckOS-1.85 is available

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Fedora-33-20201020.n.0 compose check report

[Fedora compose checker]

No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 1/181 (x86_64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-33-20201019.n.0):

ID: 702489  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702489

Soft failed openQA tests: 10/181 (x86_64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-33-20201019.n.0):

ID: 702441  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702441
ID: 702460  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702460
ID: 702487  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_update_graphical
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702487
ID: 702500  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_printing
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702500
ID: 702520  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702520
ID: 702523  Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702523
ID: 702537  Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702537
ID: 702549  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_minimal_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702549
ID: 702571  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702571
ID: 702574  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_minimal_uefi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702574

Passed openQA tests: 170/181 (x86_64)

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi: 
System load changed from 0.15 to 0.26
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700714#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702440#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default_upload: 
System load changed from 0.64 to 0.82
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700758#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702484#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
Used swap changed from 18 MiB to 28 MiB
Average CPU usage changed from 4.18571429 to 15.9
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700760#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702486#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default_upload: 
Used swap changed from 9 MiB to 8 MiB
System load changed from 1.43 to 1.55
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700777#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702503#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi: 
Used swap changed from 9 MiB to 53 MiB
System load changed from 0.88 to 1.31
Average CPU usage changed from 2.24285714 to 37.92857143
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700778#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702504#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default_upload: 
Used swap changed from 28 MiB to 22 MiB
System load changed from 0.43 to 0.77
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700794#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702520#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso 
install_default@uefi: 
Mount /run/user/0 appeared since previous compose
Used mem changed from 871 MiB to 706 MiB
Used swap changed from 25 MiB to 9 MiB
System load changed from 0.50 to 0.25
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700797#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702523#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 universal install_package_set_kde: 
System load changed from 0.96 to 1.19
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700838#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702564#downloads

Installed system changes in test x86_64 universal install_package_set_minimal: 
System load changed from 0.03 to 0.18
Previous test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/700885#downloads
Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702611#downloads


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Has glibc just removed some symbols?

[Jerry James]

See https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/package/ocaml-dune?collection=f34

OCaml package builds are suddenly failing because the symbols
__xstat64, __fxstat64, and __lxstat64 cannot be found, maybe due to
this change:

- linux: Move {f}xstat{at} to compat symbols

Can the change be reverted until we can figure out exactly which
packages will have to be rebuilt?
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Fedora-Rawhide-20201020.n.0 compose check report

[Fedora compose checker]

No missing expected images.

Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
24 of 43 required tests failed, 17 results missing
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** 
below

Failed openQA tests: 99/181 (x86_64)

New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20201019.n.0):

ID: 702291  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702291
ID: 702312  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702312
ID: 702334  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702334
ID: 702353  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702353

Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20201019.n.0):

ID: 702182  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702182
ID: 702183  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vncconnect_server
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702183
ID: 702189  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_server
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702189
ID: 702201  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_vnc_client
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702201
ID: 702220  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso memory_check@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702220
ID: 702221  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso memory_check
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702221
ID: 702224  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_notifications_live
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702224
ID: 702242  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_live
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702242
ID: 702283  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_encrypted_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702283
ID: 702310  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702310
ID: 702311  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_encrypted_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702311
ID: 702328  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702328
ID: 702331  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702331
ID: 702344  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702344
ID: 702361  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702361
ID: 702362  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702362
ID: 702363  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default@uefi **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702363
ID: 702364  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702364
ID: 702365  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default_upload **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702365
ID: 702381  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload 
**GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702381
ID: 702391  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_resize_lvm
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702391
ID: 702398  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default_upload **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702398
ID: 702404  Test: x86_64 universal install_repository_http_graphical 
**GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702404
ID: 702408  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702408
ID: 702425  Test: x86_64 universal install_mirrorlist_graphical **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702425
ID: 702426  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi 
**GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702426
ID: 702427  Test: x86_64 universal install_multi **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702427
ID: 702428  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default@uefi **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702428
ID: 702429  Test: x86_64 universal install_resize_lvm
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702429
ID: 702430  Test: x86_64 universal install_repository_http_variation 
**GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702430
ID: 702431  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_no_user **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702431
ID: 702432  Test: x86_64 universal install_scsi_updates_img **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702432
ID: 702433  Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_pata **GATING**
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/702433
ID: 702434  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_hd_variation
URL: 

[Bug 1889632] Upgrade perl-Text-Sprintf-Named to 0.0405

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889632



--- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System  ---
FEDORA-2020-35757c325e has been submitted as an update to Fedora 31.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-35757c325e


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[Bug 1889632] Upgrade perl-Text-Sprintf-Named to 0.0405

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FEDORA-2020-2c9a6b24e4 has been submitted as an update to Fedora 33.
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[Bug 1881518] perl-Unicode-Collate-1.28 is available

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--- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System  ---
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[Bug 1882958] perl-MIME-Base64-3.16 is available

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[Bug 1884931] perl-Pod-Checker-1.74 is available

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[Bug 1882957] perl-Unicode-Collate-1.29 is available

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[Bug 1888006] perl-DB_File-1.855 is available

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[Bug 1887366] perl-Pod-Usage-2.01 is available

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[Bug 1885368] perl-Digest-MD5-2.58 is available

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[Bug 1882938] perl-File-Temp-0.2310 is available

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[Bug 1884870] perl-File-Temp-0.2311 is available

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[Bug 1880857] perl-Module-CoreList-5.20200920 is available

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[Bug 1887366] perl-Pod-Usage-2.01 is available

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[Bug 1880857] perl-Module-CoreList-5.20200920 is available

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[Bug 1881646] perl-version-0.9928 is available

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[Bug 1883498] perl-Module-Load-0.36 is available

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[Bug 1870861] perl-version-0.9927 is available

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[Bug 1870878] perl-Module-CoreList-5.20200820 is available

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[Bug 1879217] perl-IO-Socket-IP-0.41 is available

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[Bug 1879600] perl-DB_File-1.854 is available

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[Bug 1871053] perl-Module-Load-Conditional-0.74 is available

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[Bug 1889632] Upgrade perl-Text-Sprintf-Named to 0.0405

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Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Text-Sprintf-Named-0.0
   ||405-1.fc34



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An enhancement release suitable for all Fedoras.


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Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

[Nicolas Mailhot via devel]

Le mardi 20 octobre 2020 à 12:32 +0200, Petr Pisar a écrit :
> 
> In my opinion what became slugish (besides web browsers) are desktop
> environments that "accelerated" GUI by a move to OpenGL and
> JavaScript.
> A typical examples are login managers. GDM actually loads full Gnome,
> thus GDM
> consumes 500 MB of memory and after logging in Gnome shell for user's
> session
> takes another 500 MB. SDDM becomes insanely graphics-demanding. The
> QML
> backend first started polling old Intel VGAs, then spits flickering
> artifacts
> on old Radeons. Regarding feature-parity it completely looses to KDM
> (no XDM,
> broken PAM with non-password authentication mechisms, it even became
> a blocker
> for F33).

The worst thing is that was done as the same time that wayland moved
input management to the window manager. Any random GUI action can now
result in feel-good GUI prettification that will starve input
processing of CPU, resulting in frozen mouse pointers and missed
repeated or reordered keystrokes.

So, useless desktop except as a browser shell where typing is marginal.

> journalctl | grep gnome-shell | grep 'libinput error' | grep 'your
system is too slow' | wc -l
7060

> cat /proc/cpuinfo  | grep model
model   : 142
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz
model   : 142
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz
model   : 142
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz
model   : 142
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-7200U CPU @ 2.50GHz

Hardly an underpowered system

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Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 10/19/20 6:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

The issue is that while 'moore's' law was no longer doubling every 18months
it was still working and tasks had to be rewritten to work with more
cores/threads/etc. As that happened the software's need for more CPU power
has increased to the point were a 10+ year computer isn't very useful for
'modern' software (browser and various applications). Instead if you want
to have something work on a 2012 system well.. just use software from
2012.  It is still available.
I know you know, you are being polemic and cheating. 2012's SW is 
unusable today.



Sure you can install Linux on that 15 year
old computer but if you have to tell the user well you can't actually use a
browser, an editor or half the things you can do on your cheapest
smart-phone.. what use is that computer?
Do yourselves a favor and try it yourselves: A 2012 mid-class system 
still outperforms many todays low-end systems and many notebooks.


These systems are well suitable for many purposes!

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Fedora 33 compose report: 20201020.n.0 changes

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OLD: Fedora-33-20201019.n.0
NEW: Fedora-33-20201020.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images:  0
Added packages:  3
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   6
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  225.10 KiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   24.99 MiB
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Size change of upgraded packages:   309.31 KiB
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Summary: A library wrapping email authentication header verification and 
generation
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Size:72.91 KiB

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Summary: Message Identifiers for internationalization
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Size:129.14 KiB


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freeipa-client-samba freeipa-common freeipa-python-compat freeipa-selinux 
freeipa-server freeipa-server-common freeipa-server-dns freeipa-server-trust-ad 
python3-ipaclient python3-ipalib python3-ipaserver python3-ipatests
Size: 8.18 MiB
Size change:  5.30 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Oct 13 2020 Alexander Bokovoy  - 4.8.10-6
  - Handle sshd_config upgrade properly
Fixes: rhbz#1887928


Package:  mailman3-3.3.2~rc2-1.fc33
Old package:  mailman3-3.2.2-3.fc33
Summary:  The GNU mailing list manager
RPMs: mailman3
Size: 1.45 MiB
Size change:  220.89 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Jul 28 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
3.2.2-4
  - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild

  * Sat Aug 01 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
3.2.2-5
  - Second attempt - Rebuilt for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild

  * Fri Oct 16 2020 Neal Gompa  - 3.3.2~rc2-1
  - Update to 3.3.2rc2 to fix build
  - Refresh and clean up patch set


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Summary:  A small text editor
RPMs: nano nano-default-editor
Size: 3.39 MiB
Size change:  1.25 KiB
Changelog:
  * Mon Oct 12 2020 Neal Gompa  - 5.3-3
  - Ensure default-editor subpackage is easily swappable

  * Thu Oct 15 2020 Zdenek Dohnal  - 5.3-4
  - fix nano-default-editor.fish - don't give EDITOR an universal scope


Package:  os-prober-1.77-6.fc33
Old package:  os-prober-1.77-5.fc33
Summary:  Probes disks on the system for installed operating systems
RPMs: os-prober
Size: 232.55 KiB
Size change:  748 B
Changelog:
  * Sat Oct 10 2020 Hedayat Vatankhah  - 1.77-6
  - Workaround for grub2-mount slow wildcard file matching, fixes #1770599


Package:  ostree-2020.7-3.fc33
Old package:  ostree-2020.6-5.fc33
Summary:  Tool for managing bootable, immutable filesystem trees
RPMs: ostree ostree-devel ostree-grub2 ostree-libs ostree-tests
Size: 11.69 MiB
Size change:  81.01 KiB
Changelog:
  * Wed Oct 14 2020 Colin Walters  - 2020.7-2
  - https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree/releases/tag/v2020.7

  * Thu Oct 15 2020 Jonathan Lebon  - 2020.7-3
  - Backport https://github.com/ostreedev/ostree/pull/2219 for
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888436


Package:  python-zope-configuration-4.0.3-23.fc33
Old package:  python-zope-configuration-4.0.3-21.fc33
Summary:  Zope Configuration Markup Language (ZCML)
RPMs: python3-zope-configuration
Size: 54.93 KiB
Size change:  137 B
Changelog:
  * Wed Jul 29 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
4.0.3-22
  - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild

  * Sat Aug 01 2020 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
4.0.3-23
  - Second attempt - Rebuilt for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_33_Mass_Rebuild



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[Bug 1883530] Add perl-Curses-UI to EPEL8

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1883530



--- Comment #5 from David Hannequin  ---
Hi,

I done request. See below.
https://pagure.io/releng/fedora-scm-requests/issue/29855


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[Bug 1889685] perl-Clone-PP-1.08 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889685



--- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring 
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An HTTP error occurred downloading the package's new Source URLs: Getting
https://cpan.metacpan.org/modules/by-module/Clone/Clone-PP-1.08.tar.gz to
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[Bug 1889685] New: perl-Clone-PP-1.08 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1889685

Bug ID: 1889685
   Summary: perl-Clone-PP-1.08 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
Status: NEW
 Component: perl-Clone-PP
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com,
perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
  Target Milestone: ---
Classification: Fedora



Latest upstream release: 1.08
Current version/release in rawhide: 1.07-13.fc33
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Clone-PP/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/


More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring


Please keep in mind that with any upstream change, there may also be packaging
changes that need to be made. Specifically, please remember that it is your
responsibility to review the new version to ensure that the licensing is still
correct and that no non-free or legally problematic items have been added
upstream.


Based on the information from anitya:
https://release-monitoring.org/project/2708/


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[Bug 1855962] bugzilla can't send non-html email

[bugzilla]

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1855962

Sjoerd Mullender  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|CLOSED  |NEW
 Resolution|ERRATA  |---
   Keywords||Reopened



--- Comment #12 from Sjoerd Mullender  ---
Reopening in the hope someone sees my comments.


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Fedora-Cloud-31-20201020.0 compose check report

[Fedora compose checker]

No missing expected images.

Passed openQA tests: 7/7 (x86_64)
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