Re: time is running: security issue BZ#2241470

2023-09-30 Thread Marcus Müller

Hi Marius,,

I'd also point out that if you want to inform the security team about something, you 
should inform directly – and it seems you've done that, by properly labeling that issue 
(which I can't read at all) as sensitive. As the others pointed out, there's nothing that 
can be done publicly before the embargo is lifted, which should coincide exactly with your 
deadline; anything else would amount to publishing a bugfix that you've now publicly 
announced is a fix for a critical security vulnerability!


If, for some reason, the issue you can read and we can't is marked confidential, but you 
see the security team has not taken appropriate attention to it, or don't understand the 
process they're going through, they do have an email address: secalert at [roterhut auf 
Englisch] dot com. Note that it's quite usual that reporters and security teams come to 
different assessments regarding appropriate measures, which is mostly due to different 
scopes of what they need to care about. As you've done here, being nice gets you far :)


Best,
Marcus

On 30.09.23 23:58, Justin Forbes wrote:

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 10:55 AM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:13:32AM +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:

Hi,

this is emerg ping for the security team, to take a look at this bz :

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241470

If this is an embargoed bug (I can't see it, so no idea if it is, but it
seems likely), please don't discuss it on a public mailing list.

Fedora has no means to secretly build anything, so it may be that the
maintainers of whatever this is are waiting for the embargo to lift to
push fedora updates.

Agreed. I also don't have access to the bug, but no matter the issue,
even if I have the patch months before the lift of embargo, and do
test builds locally, I can not commit a fix to Fedora dist-git and
start a build until an embargo is lifted.  We still typically get such
issues fixed and out to users within a few hours if critical.  That is
part of the open nature of Fedora, we literally do not have a back
channel.  That said, calling something out which is embargoed is
absolutely irresponsible and is not the way to ensure that people
continue to get read in on such issues.  If the bug exists, the
security team is likely well aware, and we do have processes in place.
A public mailing list is no place to discuss any non public bugs.

Justin


If you have access to the bug, thats the place to comment further.

kevin
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Re: time is running: security issue BZ#2241470

2023-09-30 Thread JT
As far as the "Fedora Security Team" we dont know anything that's not
public either.  RH's security team has access to the embargoed stuff and I
assume that they handle it privately with the package maintainer and prep
the patch themselves. I say assume because I have zero visibility into what
they do or how they handle things. The Fedora Security team... for what it
is... is mostly an end user facing team at this point.  IDK how it operated
in the past, it was dead when I started to reboot it last year. We deal
with public security issues and are a contract point for the community
around security matters.  We have no visibility into any embargoed matters
until it's made public. That's the nature of a fully open project -- no
secrets.
JT


On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 5:59 PM Justin Forbes  wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 10:55 AM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:13:32AM +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > this is emerg ping for the security team, to take a look at this bz :
> > >
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241470
> >
> > If this is an embargoed bug (I can't see it, so no idea if it is, but it
> > seems likely), please don't discuss it on a public mailing list.
> >
> > Fedora has no means to secretly build anything, so it may be that the
> > maintainers of whatever this is are waiting for the embargo to lift to
> > push fedora updates.
>
> Agreed. I also don't have access to the bug, but no matter the issue,
> even if I have the patch months before the lift of embargo, and do
> test builds locally, I can not commit a fix to Fedora dist-git and
> start a build until an embargo is lifted.  We still typically get such
> issues fixed and out to users within a few hours if critical.  That is
> part of the open nature of Fedora, we literally do not have a back
> channel.  That said, calling something out which is embargoed is
> absolutely irresponsible and is not the way to ensure that people
> continue to get read in on such issues.  If the bug exists, the
> security team is likely well aware, and we do have processes in place.
> A public mailing list is no place to discuss any non public bugs.
>
> Justin
>
> > If you have access to the bug, thats the place to comment further.
> >
> > kevin
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Re: time is running: security issue BZ#2241470

2023-09-30 Thread Justin Forbes
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 10:55 AM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:13:32AM +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is emerg ping for the security team, to take a look at this bz :
> >
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241470
>
> If this is an embargoed bug (I can't see it, so no idea if it is, but it
> seems likely), please don't discuss it on a public mailing list.
>
> Fedora has no means to secretly build anything, so it may be that the
> maintainers of whatever this is are waiting for the embargo to lift to
> push fedora updates.

Agreed. I also don't have access to the bug, but no matter the issue,
even if I have the patch months before the lift of embargo, and do
test builds locally, I can not commit a fix to Fedora dist-git and
start a build until an embargo is lifted.  We still typically get such
issues fixed and out to users within a few hours if critical.  That is
part of the open nature of Fedora, we literally do not have a back
channel.  That said, calling something out which is embargoed is
absolutely irresponsible and is not the way to ensure that people
continue to get read in on such issues.  If the bug exists, the
security team is likely well aware, and we do have processes in place.
A public mailing list is no place to discuss any non public bugs.

Justin

> If you have access to the bug, thats the place to comment further.
>
> kevin
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Re: time is running: security issue BZ#2241470

2023-09-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:13:32AM +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> this is emerg ping for the security team, to take a look at this bz :
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241470

If this is an embargoed bug (I can't see it, so no idea if it is, but it
seems likely), please don't discuss it on a public mailing list. 

Fedora has no means to secretly build anything, so it may be that the
maintainers of whatever this is are waiting for the embargo to lift to
push fedora updates. 

If you have access to the bug, thats the place to comment further.

kevin


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Heads-up: python-absl-py 2.0.0 coming to Rawhide

2023-09-30 Thread Ben Beasley
In one week, 2023-10-07, or slightly later, I plan to update 
python-absl-py to 2.0.0 in Rawhide[1].


This release has some potentially breaking changes, described in [2], 
but it is a leaf package, so there is no impact to other packages in Fedora.


[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-absl-py/pull-request/3

[2] https://github.com/abseil/abseil-py/releases/tag/v2.0.0
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Re: 16 packages still need a Python 3.12 rebuild, final freeze in 6 days

2023-09-30 Thread Sandro

On 30-09-2023 02:16, Jonathan Steffan wrote:

supervisor in fedora 39 is 4.2.2 but the version that supports python
3.12 is 4.2.5.  I filed Bug 2239529 about this and have received no
response.


I've updatedhttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2239529  with links
to an updated Rawhide scratch build and two PRs (Rawhide & F39) to
update this software. It's such a useful software package it would be a
shame to drop it.

I would also be willing to co-maintain this package, but the current
package admin has not been responsive to other requests.


Did you send a mail to supervisor-maintainers@fp.o requesting for the 
PRs to be merged and being added as a co-maintainer? I saw there's 
another co-maintainer of the package.


If that has been done and still no response on the PRs or Bugzilla, I'd 
say it's time to kick off the non-responsive maintainer procedure[1].


In the meantime a proven packager could merge the PRs and thus save the 
package from being retired.


[1] 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers/


-- Sandro
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time is running: security issue BZ#2241470

2023-09-30 Thread Marius Schwarz


Hi,

this is emerg ping for the security team, to take a look at this bz :

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2241470

excuse me, for bringing this to the list, as a security bz is the way to 
go, but time is running fast and the patched release needs to be build 
and shipped in 36h hours from now.


The deadline for having a fix shipped is the afternoon of SUN, 1. of Oct 
2023 . On this date, the patches in upstream go public and exploits
will be developed for them. this impacts ALL of redhat based 
installations which run as servers and are publically reachable. The 
component in question is the default package for rh based installations.


best regards,
Marius Schwarz

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mame validation time takes forever on rawhide/aarch64

2023-09-30 Thread Julian Sikorski

Hello,

mame package uses mame -validate as %check step. It has recently started 
to cause problems on rawhide/aarch64:

- I had to cancel 0.258 build after 16 hours [1]
- 0.259 build is stuck since ca. 1600 UTC yesterday [2]
Other branches built fine for aarch64, and so did other arches for 
rawhide. Additionally, there are no rawhide koschei builds since August 
making it harder to find the potential culprit.
How can I investigate further? I might need to disable %check if the 
reason cannot be found.


Best regards,
Julian

[1] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=106453404
[2] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=106887762
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