Re: how to explicitly disable rawhide while building a spin/remix

[Ben Williams]

install the fedora-kickstarts rpm
edit the fedora-repo.ks to use fedora-repo-not-rawhide.ks
ksflatten your kickstart and it will use the normal fedora repos 

(when all else fails talk to the Fedora Respin SiG in #fedora-respins)
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Re: getting kernel-devel added

[Ben Williams]

Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 16:35:50 +
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On 09/12/2017 11:35 AM, Ben Williams wrote:
They used the F26 release so now have the release kernel and so they instal=
l sudo dnf install kernel-devel and still have issues (kernel and kernel-de=
vel versions do not match).

You're saying that they need to reboot, because kernel-devel update forces =
 the new kernel but they still run on the old kernel? that's going to bite =
them repeatedly every time kernel updates, if the virtual tools bypass the =
system packaging. It needs to be solved by virtual tools integration, or by=
 more explicit warnings on kernel updates.

no not what i said and the reboots are not the issue
once kernel-devel is on the system with the correct kernel any future updates 
both will be updated.
the issue is kernel-devel is not installed ootb with any of our DEs and i am 
giving the issue to you from the enduser prespective

install the f26 release iso from get fedora do a rpm -qa |grep kernel  
kernel-devel is needed by lots of our endusers

I produce the updated isos i have added kernel-devel to my ks but it would be a 
better exiperence going forward for the new enduser if kernel-devel was 
included by default in the woekstation and spins

Ben

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getting kernel-devel added

[Ben Williams]

hello

This is an issue i am seeing with new users:

I was at a University installfest this weekend and this was the major 
issues for Endusers.


case A) Students are using Fedora on windows in a VM (Vbox in this case) 
for a class. they are required for said class to install the guest 
additions. they are constantly running into errors that the guest 
addidions will not build  (there install does not have kernel-devel 
install.  They used the F26 release so now have the release kernel and 
so they install sudo dnf install kernel-devel and still have issues 
(kernel and kernel-devel versions do not match).


Case B) third party video or wireless driver same issue no kernel-devel, 
no wireless no internet == fix by sneakernet



Both of these issues can be easily fixed by including kernel-devel in a 
group or by adding kernel-devel to all the Desktop Environment kickstarts.


To me this simple fix will help our new users and will not leave such a 
unfriendly feeling (and hopeful increase our contributor base down the road)


Ben

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Re: devel Digest, Vol 153, Issue 91

[Ben Williams]

I will give it a try I am sure i will be making a new batch of updated 
F24 lives later this week



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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 12:35:37 -0500
From: Neal Gompa 
Subject: Re: Announcement: Python 3 port of livecd-creator (was: Re:
Announcement: DNF port of livecd-creator)
To: Development discussions related to Fedora

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On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 12:17 PM, John Florian  wrote:

On Sun, 2016-11-13 at 05:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:

Hi,

FYI, Neal Gompa has now put up a Copr with the DNF + Python 3 version of the
livecd-tools:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/ngompa/livecd-creator/



This is interesting news for me.  I'm a long time user (in an employed
capacity) of livecd-tools and it sort of felt like the project was circling
the drain.  I've recently started playing with livemedia-creator and have
found some aspects that look wonderfully powerful (e.g., the lorax
templates) but have also found it frustrating to use when it doesn't like my
kickstart.  I'm past that frustration (for now), but have hit another bump.
To make the spins from lm-c into what I need, I must modify the lorax
templates and since our spins are done in our Koji there doesn't yet appear
to be anyway to achieve that.


In order to use alternative templates, the livemedia-creator command
must have an additional parameter passed. Koji currently doesn't
support this facility, which makes it difficult to use when you need
to support custom layouts. If you'd like this capability, file a bug
against koji in bugzilla for it.


So I'm at a crossroad of enhancing Koji to support custom lorax templates or
to maybe hold out for this breath of life in livecd-tools.  Are you planning
to get this work into the livecd-tools in the standard Fedora repos?  What
about Koji support?  Would this work as is or will that require further
work?


Kevin has already submitted a request to merge our work into the
canonical livecd-tools repository[1]. Once merged, we hope that
upstream will push a new release to supported releases with the new
code. The work we did shouldn't affect Koji support any, though if you
run Koji on something other than Fedora, you'll need to have the
latest DNF 1.1 version available on the system running Koji. With the
release of RHEL 7.3 and EPEL7 subsequently bumping up to it, the
version of DNF for EL7 can be bumped to the latest 1.1 release. Please
request that in bugzilla, if you want it.

I'm currently not providing EL7 packages because of the lack of DNF
1.1. With no CentOS 7.3 available yet, I cannot produce packages that
would be installable by the vast majority of people.

[1]: https://github.com/rhinstaller/livecd-tools/pull/37


I'm just trying to gauge where to focus my efforts project-wise.  Hopefully
I can contribute something here.

I would encourage you to try out our new livecd-tools and see how it
performs for your needs. Contributions are welcome as well. If
upstream doesn't pull it in, the code will be maintained on Kevin's
GitHub repository[2].

[2]: https://github.com/kkofler/livecd-tools



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Re: Fedora.NEXT Products and the fate of Spins

[Ben Williams]

May take on the Spins

1) Spins have given us a great way to show people what is in Fedora 
without installing
2) We have been producing Multi-Live media for several years to give out 
at events.
3) The multi-lives make the display machines very easy to maintain (new 
release wipe hd and reinstall multi-live )
4) I personally produce updated Live isos for the community. We have 
seen that they do and have many times solved issues that people had 
installing on the original release.
5) yes Spins create a overhead as far as testing etc. but in the end run 
they are the best way to get a enduser to experiment to see if they like 
running Fedora.

6) now do i think we need spins for any group other than Workstation no


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Fedora 12 re-spins Released

[Ben Williams]

The Fedora Unity Project is proud to announce the release of new ISO 
Re-Spins of Fedora 12.

These Re-Spin ISOs are based on the officially released Fedora 12 
installation media and include all updates released as of February  2nd, 
2010.

The ISO images are available for i386, x86_64, architectures via Jigdo 
or Torrent starting Wednesday  February 10th, 2010 (saving about 437MB 
of updates for a default install).

Go to http://spins.fedoraunity.org/spins to get the bits!

We are glad to be able to announce the current Fedora 12 Re-Spin, 
20100202, despite problems in this Re-Spin. Nonetheless, we, Fedora 
Unity, have decided to release this Re-Spin with the following side-note:

  Due to a newly discovered  bug the re-spins do not include 
all the SCSI drivers (BUSLOGIC as an example which is used by VMware)  ***


We would like to give a special thanks to the following for testing this 
Re-Spin:

- vwbusguy-   Scott Williams
- Southern_Gentleman  Ben Williams
- kanarip Jeroen van Meeuwen
- fenrus2 Dennis Johnson
- BobLfootBob Lightfoot
- adm1Davis Leggett


Fedora Unity Re-Spin 20100202 Changelog ( 
http://spins.fedoraunity.org/changelogs/20100202/ )

Testing Results

A full test matrix can be found at our Test Matrix ( 
http://spins.fedoraunity.org/Members/Southern_Gentleman/F12-20100202-matrix/ 
)

About Fedora Unity Re-Spins

Fedora Unity has taken up the Re-Spin task to provide the community with 
the chance to install Fedora with recent updates already included.

This is a community project, for and by the community. You can 
contribute to the community by joining our test process.

Go to http://spins.fedoraunity.org/spins to get the bits!


Assistance Needed

If you are interested in helping with the testing or mirroring efforts, 
please contact the Fedora Unity team.

Contact information is available at http://fedoraunity.org/ or the 
#fedora-unity channel on the Freenode IRC Network (irc.freenode.net).

To report bugs in the Re-Spins please use http://bugs.fedoraunity.org/

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