Re: Fedora search

2013-11-02 Thread Frankie Onuonga
Hi folks,

I trust all is well.

I believe this email will spark something so I will cc Kevin in it because
of multiple reasons.
I would like somethings to be clear from the word go.

I am not too sure where to start with this email.
I have combined emotions of extremely mad and extremely excited at the same
time .
First I would like to thank all those who have been kind enough to offer
their assistance.
I would also like to say thank you to those that have started brainstorming.
I am sure in sometime we will be able to see the fruits of our labor.

Now in regards to the reason why I am least amused today. I am going to be
straight to the point and clear with this. I do not appreciate a user who
is here to critic and offer no solution. I generally follow open source
ethics but if your job is to come in and critic with a  lot of rubbish
opinions (yes I am referring directly to whoever posted that this is not
something to look into and even worse insist on it) then please don't waste
your time. Keep off this thread.

It does not amuse me to the slightest bit when criticism is given with no
solution. I understand when someone makes a mistake. I also understand when
someone has a valid point.
I do not understand when you give an opinion with a solution being you will
never use the service.
You can not rate something before use.
I would also advice you have a look at the mailing list guidelines so that
you are up to speed.


The best of minds are probably here with us, people do not mention who they
work for but trust me they are here. Fine we admit google is miles ahead. I
personally know they took time to get there.

I also have read their papers and there are open source solutions that have
been mentioned earlier (Apache lucene/sol) that try and mimic this. Seeing
it is for our use , which in my opinion is small I think it is a great
start.

Third, free and open source is all that is used here. simple.

I would therefore proceed to mention, if you are not contributing in a
positive way, be kind to the world. We do not have super cow abilities.


Kind Regards,

Onuonga Frankie


On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Alek Paunov a...@declera.com wrote:

 On 02.11.2013 02:32, Michael Cronenworth wrote:

 This will be my last mailing on this topic as I will not contribute or
 use this feature in Fedora, but this reply warranted clarification.

 On 11/01/2013 06:14 PM, Alek Paunov wrote:

 Another simple answer: CSE is a low quality search - no facets, no (real)
 content age restriction. The same is valid also for every other
 service/application which is solely based on generic web pages crawling.


 CSE is as full blown as a Google Appliance. More advanced than anything
 you can write in Perl/Python/Ruby in a month. Site restrictions, keyword
 restrictions, (real) age restrictions, autocomplete help, synonyms,
 image search, all of which are provided through a XML API.[1]


 Indeed. Don't get me wrong - I like CSE service for what it is good for.
 It seems that I had not been clear enough with my English - Sorry!

 Nobody is able to write a good, modern index in a month - lucene/solr,
 xapian, etc, are all evolved in long, long years. Our task is a proper
 deployment of one or combination of them, not inventing a new.

 Why e.g. solr instead of CSE or dpsearch (which is opensource, and also
 mentioned in the old tickets)?

 Granularity: With CSE/dpsearch the indexed content unit is a crawled and
 automatically processed Web document (I say Web document instead of HTML
 page, because CSE handles many types). Not single BZ comment. Not change
 comment in a spec file. Not Git commit. Or in the reverse direction: Email,
 not thread (because we do not yet have yet archive page displaying the
 whole thread). I.e. there are no concept of document and subdocuments (in
 which most of our content belongs).

 Attributes: You can not attach custom scalar/category attributes (the base
 of the faceted search) to the FTS indexed units.

 Please correct me if I am wrong about CSE with some of the above.

 Fedora has datasources (bugs, wikis, mails, packages, docs, etc,) not just
 sitemaps/pages, and they all talk about same things (common topic
 hierarchies, common tag hierarchies, common authors). They form highly
 interlinked virtual knowledge base.

 We should start index the sources in their native structure now, to be
 able to upgrade some happy day to full blown semantic search (when
 available), which is actually what we badly need.


  In our case, we are the owners of the content, we know how it is
 structured, we
 know where are the feeds with the pure content changes, we can
 explicitly feed
 the indexes with all named attributes of the content nodes and later
 use them.


 But you don't know how other people on the web find and link to Fedora
 pages to provide accurate page ranking.


 Personas: 1. Active Fedora contributor, 2. Fedora contributor, 3. Power
 Fedora user/sysadmin, 4. Fedora user, 5. Potential Fedora user, 

Re: Fedora search

2013-11-01 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 1 Nov 2013 04:22:33 +
 Frankie Onuonga frankie.onuo...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  I think this goes back to the concept of having something that we
  can do for ourselves.

 It is a nice to have concept.
 But Fedora users (even new ones) will use whatever search engine
 they are comfortable\familiar with.

Thanks for this.
The idea is that we create something simple.
I am not suggesting design from scratch .
I am looking into an open source solution that I can implement.

We currently have one but it is slow and to be honest a little frustrating
in my opinion.
In regards to this kindly have a look at the ticket I had linked in the
earlier posts.

good day/night.

Kind Regards,

Frankie Onuonga.


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Re: Fedora search

2013-10-31 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Ben Boeckel maths...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 30 Oct, 2013 at 19:29:25 GMT, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
  What about using a custom Google search engine?
 
  https://www.google.com/cse/

 Google is having more and more privacy issues lately. Why not use
 DuckDuckGo and write a 'bang' search for fedora sites?
 !fedora-guidelines, !fedora-package !fedora-wiki, etc.?


I think this goes back to the concept of having something that we can do
for ourselves. Something that we can take in and manage on our own. Sure,
at first it will be a lot of heavy lifting but this is not something I
mind. It has to be done.
I think we really just need to look into tools that are free and open
source and then move forward.

However, as mentioned before this is my opinion. The more criticised the
better.  If we(the community at large) do not mind, can we proceed to look
at various tools.

Thanks .


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Fedora search

2013-10-30 Thread Frankie Onuonga
Hi guys,
I hope all is well.


I am writing in regards to something I had written about two months ago.
This in regards to the search engine.

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1055#trac-add-comment


I think we need to seriously fix this thing once and for all.

I am looking at designing a solution for us.
I however would like to start from the basics.
We will need to look at the solutions that are present at the current time.
This should allow us to critic and analyse them.

I will then take this issue into the meeting for voting and whatever is
decided is what I shall implement.

Kindly do advice if you have any pointers on this project.
I however must be honest and say it will take me about 2 months to complete
when i start because I have a day job elsewhere.
This does not mean I will not want assistance. As always assistance is
highly appreciated.


I hope this will be fruitful so we can close this once and for all. Or
should I say until we need a revision done.

Thanks,
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Re: Fedora search

2013-10-30 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.comwrote:

 Frankie Onuonga wrote:

 I am writing in regards to something I had written about two months ago.
 This in regards to the search engine.

 https://fedorahosted.org/**fedora-infrastructure/ticket/**
 1055#trac-add-commenthttps://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1055#trac-add-comment


 I think we need to seriously fix this thing once and for all.

 I am looking at designing a solution for us.
 I however would like to start from the basics.
 We will need to look at the solutions that are present at the current
 time.
 This should allow us to critic and analyse them.

 I will then take this issue into the meeting for voting and whatever is
 decided
 is what I shall implement.

 Kindly do advice if you have any pointers on this project.
 I however must be honest and say it will take me about 2 months to
 complete when
 i start because I have a day job elsewhere.
 This does not mean I will not want assistance. As always assistance is
 highly
 appreciated.


 I hope this will be fruitful so we can close this once and for all. Or
 should I
 say until we need a revision done.


 What about using a custom Google search engine?

 https://www.google.com/cse/

My notion has always been that people always want something that is made in
house.
I do not think they will take up something that is in a black box but I
might be wrong.


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Re: Fedora search

2013-10-30 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.comwrote:

 Frankie Onuonga wrote:

 My notion has always been that people always want something that is made
 in house.
 I do not think they will take up something that is in a black box but I
 might
 be wrong.


 Site search engines are mostly useless to me, and I know I'm not alone.
 Why else would the ticket go untouched for 4 years?

 Reasons against YASE (yet another search engine):
 1. They provide horrible results. The Big Boys (G, Y!, B, etc.) aggregate
 on levels beyond what one man can program in a few hours (no offense).
 2. Most people bring up one of the Big Boys to search anyway.
 3. It's another piece of software Infrastructure has to maintain.


 i would not go with the word useless.
I also would not conclude in such a hurry that is the reason the ticket has
gone un touched.
I think there was no one to optimise performance at the time  independent
of the solution that was chosen.

In terms of the reasons your opinion is highly respected. I however doubt
it on horrible results.
I would kindly request you to have a look at what other distros have done.

I respect your opinions but I can not conclude in a solid way with them.
Sorry.

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Re: Anyone else using and interested in co-maintaining sogo?

2013-10-15 Thread Frankie Onuonga
Hi,

sounds amazing.
I could take it up but I can not promise to do so soon.
I have some things on my hands that will need about a month to finish up.

thanks,




On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Needing a calendar server for the company, I've ended up packaging the
 groupware server SOGo [1], which is a neat MS Exchange alternative. SRPM of
 sogo plus deps are here:

 http://smani.fedorapeople.org/**review/sogo-2.0.7-1.fc21.src.**rpmhttp://smani.fedorapeople.org/review/sogo-2.0.7-1.fc21.src.rpm
 http://smani.fedorapeople.org/**review/sope-2.0.7-1.fc21.src.**rpmhttp://smani.fedorapeople.org/review/sope-2.0.7-1.fc21.src.rpm
 http://smani.fedorapeople.org/**review/lasso-2.3.6-1.fc21.src.**rpmhttp://smani.fedorapeople.org/review/lasso-2.3.6-1.fc21.src.rpm

 I think the packages are pretty decent and fit for inclusion into Fedora,
 and they might well be of interest to other people. However, I am hestitant
 to post them for review since Objective-C and GNUStep are not really known
 territory for me, and I'm also rather unexperienced with stuff like LDAP.

 So, anyone who would like to see these in Fedora and is willing to help
 out if things go wrong?

 Thanks,
 Sandro


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Re: Red Hat and Fedora Working Groups

2013-10-05 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Mathieu Bridon
boche...@fedoraproject.orgwrote:

 On Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:29 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:

 Did you look at the history who signed up to the WG page before it even
 got announced to the community?


 Who? People who were at Flock and/or had read the meeting logs and knew
 about the WG about to be announced.

 I knew about that page before it was announced.

 And I don't work for Red Hat, I just happen to read the FESCo meeting logs
 every week.


  Want to take this further shall we start pointing out individuals that
 Red Hat invented job positions for within our communities then planted
 individuals outside the community in those positions to satisify it's
 compulseve corporate need for control?


 So every time you say that, I can't help thinking you're just jealous they
 took someone « outside the community » instead of you.

 It might not be what you're thinking, but it's really how you sound.

 Maybe those « individuals » are just more competent? Or you know, maybe
 Red Hat prefers hiring people who don't spend their time vomiting their
 hatred on mailing-lists?

 It sounds like this is an issue from way back from the tone of this email.

Come on guys we cant keep going back and forth on this.  find it sad that
we are.
My opinion is this.
we get funding from these guys. So to some extent I think they ca put in
engineers to assist us when they see a feature that they want in.
I am not commenting on the methods they use.
This is because I actually do not care.

It is open source. Unhappy with something, just fork it and move on. That
is the beauty of it.
No one will come after you cause that is the beauty of the whole thing.

I think we also need to look at deliverables. I  usually am not the person
looking at the small details.
For me it is more of deliver and we are all good.
I mean if this needs to be revised I am sure we can have a look at it and
ask them to change it for the community.

this is just my $0.02

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Project take up:Infrastructure-Search

2013-09-22 Thread Frankie Onuonga
Hi guys,

I am looking to take up a project that i saw had been left idle for
sometime.
The project URL is:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Search

I said in sometime because of what is listed
at:https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1055

If this is possible, kindly do advice.
I am sure I can make sometime for it as I am only currently involved
actively in one other project withing the whole eco-system. 

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Re: Screen blackened

2013-09-06 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Richard Vickery richard.vicker...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 On Sep 5, 2013 7:12 PM, David Beveridge d...@bevhost.com wrote:
 
  On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Frankie Onuonga 
 frankie.onuo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Samuel Sieb sam...@sieb.net wrote:
 
  On 09/04/2013 08:07 PM, Frankie Onuonga wrote:
 
  It is irritating to constantly have to adjust on every boot.
  I think we need to work on it for sure.
 
  Try the kernel parameter I suggested earlier:
  video.use_bios_initial_backlight=0
 

Even more odd is that when i send output to my external monitor and put a
video on full screen the funs scream like the processor is doing so much
work.
Odd thing is it is not a HD clip. I have probably thrown worse a this
machine but fun does not come up that heavily.
Anyway such is such.



  tried it.
  Does not work for me.
 
 
  nor me.  But I can just adjust the brightness on each boot with a 2
 finger keypress.
  Seemed to appear when the kernel went to 3.10.x
 
 Which keys?


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Re: Screen blackened

2013-09-05 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Samuel Sieb sam...@sieb.net wrote:

 On 09/04/2013 08:07 PM, Frankie Onuonga wrote:

 I have this problem.
 It is just that I decided to some extent I decided i will ignore.
 It is irritating to constantly have to adjust on every boot.

 I think we need to work on it for sure.
 The only problem is I personally cant take it up as my hands are tied.
 i hope someone sees this and works on it.

  Try the kernel parameter I suggested earlier:
 video.use_bios_initial_**backlight=0

 tried it.
Does not work for me.
I had actually given this a shot earlier.
Thank you though :-)


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Re: COPR

2013-09-04 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Wed, 2013-09-04 at 08:54 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
 On 09/03/2013 03:41 PM, Frankie Onuonga wrote:
  I mean we have a really sharp crew here.
  Why not?
 
 We have sharp crew, but they have a lot of other work to do. So thinking 
 about how to offload some developer work with 
 others make IMO sense.
Thank you for the response.
Yes I understand.
It makes sense to me too.
I meant the community in general :-) .
And yes you are right.
 
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Re: Screen blackened

2013-09-04 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Samuel Sieb sam...@sieb.net wrote:

 On 09/04/2013 06:27 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:

 I was at Starbucks where I guess it was too light. When I got back I
 could read the screen and under the user name it told me to reboot to
 install updates. Though I didn't use the command, I hope I can
 remember it for when I need it again; perhaps I'll save it on my
 Blackberry.

  Was this just a one-time occurence then?  If so, then my suggestion
 probably won't help. In my case, it's a permanent problem.

 I have this problem.
It is just that I decided to some extent I decided i will ignore.
It is irritating to constantly have to adjust on every boot.

I think we need to work on it for sure.
The only problem is I personally cant take it up as my hands are tied.
i hope someone sees this and works on it.



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Re: COPR

2013-09-03 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM, 80 karlthe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ultimately, we ended up (again) discussing should we replace Koji by OBS
 ?

 Unless there is commitment from people to maintain this, we can't even
 consider this as a solution.

 True.
I think we reallly need to pick out what we like about OBS . review that
and ensure we modify koji to do it.
I mean we have a really sharp crew here.
Why not?



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Re: COPR

2013-08-31 Thread Frankie Onuonga
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 11:39 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
 Hi,
 I would like to get your feedback about COPR [1]
 
 [1] http://miroslav.suchy.cz/blog/archives/2013/08/29/what_is_copr/index.html
 
 We are the beggining and there are two options of where we can go:
 http://miroslav.suchy.cz/blog/archives/2013/08/29/copr_and_integration_with_koji/index.html
 http://miroslav.suchy.cz/blog/archives/2013/08/30/copr_implemented_using_obs/index.html
 
 I would like to ask *you* what is your opinion?
First,thank you very much for the blog post.

In regards to this I think it is difficult or should I say time
consuming to get people to move from what they are already used to.
I think OBS works differently from Koji.
Personally I prefer what we have, but this is just a matter of
preference.
I think we need to consider what is easy for users/developers to use.

I think also security needs to be looked into as described in one of the
earlier posts.

There are features that are there in the other system , I think we can
easily get a team that can build something similar for us.

There are a lot of great minds here.
The most attractive tip for me was:

build package in VM, which is safer then Koji (just chroot in Koji). And
that VM is without network, which is safer then current COPR which
allows network connections.

This is something that needs to be worked on.

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Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-21 Thread Frankie Onuonga


On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 09:39 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
 Dne 20.8.2013 20:28, Frankie Onuonga napsal(a):
 
  On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 13:01 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 07:35:54PM +0300, Frankie Onuonga wrote:
 I am hoping to assist in packaging if required.
  what are you interested in? Anything specific? Languages?
  I would like something that is cloud related but, I do not think I can
  be too picky when it comes to this.
  Awesome. Come join the Fedora Cloud SIG
 
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG
 
  by signing up for our mailing list. Cloud is, of course, a big topic --
  any particular area of interest there?
  well I saw there was some work, on one the pages that required someone
  to do something.
  I can not recall that well but let me search through.
  all i recall was seeing openshift there.
 
  It looked interesting.
 
  I am not too sure if this is a place to start.
  I will therefore ask that I be given something to get my fingers dirty.
  I honestly do not think I can be picky on this.
 
  I am here to learn with an open mind, heart and hands.
 
  thank you.
 
 
 Not sure how much it is cloud related, but there is list of bugs which 
 should be easy to fix [1], so you might want to choose one of them.
I might be wrong here.
Infact I am most likely wrong.
but will def take a look.
still trying to get my hands into things.
Not sure who someone should ask to take this up.


 
 Vít
 
 
 [1] http://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/


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Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-20 Thread Frankie Onuonga


On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 14:02 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
   I am hoping to assist in packaging if required.
 
 Hi,
Hi,
 what are you interested in? Anything specific? Languages?

I would like something that is cloud related but, I do not think I can
be too picky when it comes to this.

I say this as this is my first time.

I am comfortable with c and python but I am sure that learning something
new is also a plus.

I am willing to take whatever is thrown to me as long as it is a
learning experience.

thank you.

kind regards,

Frankie.

 
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Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-20 Thread Frankie Onuonga


On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 13:01 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 07:35:54PM +0300, Frankie Onuonga wrote:
 I am hoping to assist in packaging if required.
   what are you interested in? Anything specific? Languages?
  I would like something that is cloud related but, I do not think I can
  be too picky when it comes to this.
 
 Awesome. Come join the Fedora Cloud SIG
 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG
 
 by signing up for our mailing list. Cloud is, of course, a big topic --
 any particular area of interest there?
well I saw there was some work, on one the pages that required someone
to do something.
I can not recall that well but let me search through.
all i recall was seeing openshift there.

It looked interesting.

I am not too sure if this is a place to start.
I will therefore ask that I be given something to get my fingers dirty.
I honestly do not think I can be picky on this.

I am here to learn with an open mind, heart and hands.

thank you.
 
 
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Self Introduction

2013-08-19 Thread Frankie Onuonga


Hi guys,

Following the set of guidelines provided at:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers#Install_the_client_tools_.28Koji.29_and_set_up_your_certificate

I would like to introduce myself.

My names are Onuonga Frankie.

my page on the fedora system is
:https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Onuonga

I am in my final year at the university.
I am taking a bachelors in computer science and mathematics.
My major is advanced computer architecture which involves: signal
processing, systems programming, parallel programming, simulation and
modeling.


I am joining the list to assist in packaging.
I do not have any specific one yet but would like to get my hands
dirty with what I am given.

my Key fingerprint is :DAA5 8A30 CDF7 E90A 52C2  AF87 3D95 6592 7DB5
43E6


thank you.
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Re: Self Introduction

2013-08-19 Thread Frankie Onuonga


On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 11:42 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
 Where is your package? 
I do not have one.
I am hoping to assist in packaging if required.

thank you.
 


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