Re: F41 Change Proposal: Anaconda as native Wayland application (System Wide)

2024-06-05 Thread Ian Laurie via devel

On 6/5/24 4:57 PM, Michael J Gruber wrote:

Doesn't this prove that it's really a VirtualBox problem, not a Fedora
problem?

I mean, we still want Fedora to run "everywhere", but the previous
discussion indicated a "Fedora problem", and your observations put
things into perspective.


Virtual machines have to sneak out of their virtual existence and
interact with the real world now and then, or they would be pointless,
so virtualization is ultimately a fudge.  The graphics side of it being
the most complex part of the fudge.

I agree it is the task of the virtualization engine to keep up with
guests developments and keep the fudge working, but Xorg works, and
Wayland doesn't, and as a user I don't really care who is at fault.

If there were a little more give and take there could be fewer
problems.  As I understand things, the rush to run Anaconda in Wayland
is going to break workflows because many folks DL the
Everything-Netinstall ISOs and use it to install anything.  Since the
move to Wayland is unnecessary, it seems like it could be delayed until
Wayland is better supported by the wider ecosystem.

Of all things, the installation mechanism should be chosen to be as
broadly compatible with as much as possible, and frankly Wayland is
currently not that.

That said, if my whole life was Linux, I would move to a QEMU/KVM only
workflow, but I still have one pesky Win box in my life that I can't get
rid of (at work) so VirtualBox for me still makes sense.

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Re: F41 Change Proposal: Anaconda as native Wayland application (System Wide)

2024-06-04 Thread Ian Laurie via devel

On 6/4/24 6:56 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:

The most recent issue is that it's unbearably slow and sometimes
suffers serious graphics corruption unless 3D acceleration is turned
on.


Current best practice appears to be that 3D must be turned off.  With it
on, nothing works, not even an Xorg session.  However, it is fickle,
depending on the GNOME stack, there have been times when 3D on was
better.  With 3D off, and GNOME in an Xorg session, it almost works.

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Re: F41 Change Proposal: Anaconda as native Wayland application (System Wide)

2024-06-04 Thread Ian Laurie via devel

On 6/4/24 6:34 PM, Hans de Goede wrote:

What exactly is not working for you when you run a GNOME Wayland
session inside a VirtualBox guest ?


Hi Hans,

Sadly in my case I suffer the full range of problems, blocky massive
empty cursor, Old TV style loss of horizontal sync (video buffer overlap
problem apparently) basically I have all the issues outlined below
with screen shots shown, topics posted relate to Ubuntu but I have the
issue on Fedora (in my case, host is Fedora-Xfce-40 and guest is
Fedora-GNOME-40):

https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=110882

https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=110982

https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/21955

The above links have many other links, but see comment 22 on the ticket.

On my recent failed attempt for a GNOME VM under VirtualBox, I converted
the VM to QEMU/KVM via a raw image (not a difficult procedure).  Under
QEMU/KVM the exact same VM install works flawlessly.  So it wasn't that
my installation went wrong.

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Re: F41 Change Proposal: Anaconda as native Wayland application (System Wide)

2024-06-03 Thread Ian Laurie via devel

On 6/1/24 1:04 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Fri, 2024-05-31 at 13:36 +0200, Jiri Konecny wrote:

To my knowledge it shouldn't be. Fedora Workstation is already running
on Wayland by default for quite some time and even Live ISO is already
Wayland. To my knowledge Wayland don't have issues with graphics cards
in general.


GNOME has a fallback mechanism where it automatically runs the X.org
session if the Wayland session doesn't work. I believe that is active
on the live image. Of course, as telemetry is evil, we have absolutely
no idea how many Fedora users actually hit this mechanism.


One comment I would make is that VirtualBox doesn't *properly* support
Wayland [yet] requiring GNOME to be run as an Xorg session (of course
not an issue for Xfce etc).

If Anaconda is to be Wayland, my concern is that it may make all DEs
uninstallable, even ones like Xfce far removed from Wayland.

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Re: Retiring Celestia from Fedora due to licensing issues

2024-03-20 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/21/24 03:36, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:

I will be following the procedure for completely removing a package [3],
however there are a couple of things that I'd like to ask:


I think the Astronomy Labs version of Fedora ships with Celestia so
their group will needs a heads up.

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DNF5 ~ how to "remove --oldinstallonly" ?

2024-02-21 Thread Ian Laurie

I have my dnf configured with installonly_limit=6 and now and then find
it useful to get rid of old kernels (for example after a move from
Fedora n to n+1).

I know in the early days of DNF5 you couldn't do this, but can you do it
now?

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Re: Does splint work for anyone?

2024-02-09 Thread Ian Laurie

On 2/10/24 05:06, Stephen Smoogen wrote:


I was trying out the splint program on some code and found that it
doesn't seem to work on any recent release due to changes in various
header files

I tried using splint many years ago in connection with embedded
programming, and even though the GCC based embedded compiler I was using
was several major version numbers behind what was natively in Fedora, I
found splint to be hopelessly behind the times and utterly unusable.  I
don't know why it is even packaged in Fedora.

I wish I had the skills necessary to bring it up to date but I don't.

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Re: [Test-Announce] Kernel 6.7 Test Week is underway!

2024-02-01 Thread Ian Laurie

On 2/2/24 10:48, Leigh Scott wrote:

Thanks for holding the push to testing, I have managed to patch nvidia 545.xx 
and
550.xx so

470.xx is also patched.

I think it is ok to push the new kernel to testing, the legacy nvidia drivers 
shouldn't hold up the new kernel.


Thank you for doing this fix so quickly, it is greatly appreciated.

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Re: Planned un-retirements of Pantheon DE related packages

2023-11-21 Thread Ian Laurie

With elementary OS / Pantheon desktop upstream having made progress
with supporting newer versions of GNOME (i.e. support for newer
versions of libsoup, webkitgtk, gcr, etc.), it is now again possible
to build the Pantheon desktop components on Fedora 38+ (after I had
retired them from Fedora 37+). I am currently working on package
re-reviews and un-retirements.


Although I don't use Pantheon, I love one of its components,
specifically elementary-code. The ability to open any directory as if it
were a project can be really useful sometimes (especially ~/bin full of
shell scripts).

I am still using elementary-code-6.2.0-2.fc37 which interestingly does
actually work on 37/38/39 and even Rawhide.  Looking forward to an update.

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[EPEL-devel] Are we sticking with exa or moving to eza in EPEL?

2023-10-10 Thread Ian Laurie

I realize exa is still in the EPEL9 repos, was wondering if there is an
intention to move to its replacement eza as was done in F39 and F40?

Ian
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Re: F40 Change Proposal: KDE Plasma 6 (System Wide)

2023-09-17 Thread Ian Laurie

On 9/18/23 07:48, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:

SDDM was switched to Wayland for F38 and newer. If you want it to use X11,
you have to edit /etc/sddm.conf and set:

[General]
DisplayServer=x11


*sigh*

Well... setting DisplayServer=x11 works, the greeter works properly now.

Thanks.

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Re: F40 Change Proposal: KDE Plasma 6 (System Wide)

2023-09-15 Thread Ian Laurie

On 9/14/23 10:13, Adam Williamson wrote:

There is https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=427060 and
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449331 which is marked as a dupe
of it. Later comments on 427060 indicate some folks still have issues
with this.

My personal bugbear that I'd really like fixed is:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016563
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/spice/linux/vd_agent/-/issues/26


I created a VirtualBox KDE instance using:
Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-39_Beta-1.1.iso.  System was updated
with updates-testing enabled.

There are problems even before you login.  The mouse pointer works in
reverse in the greeter, vertical bar over the background, then an arrow
pointer when you hover over the password entry area.

After logging into a Wayland session the mouse weirdness continues with
random (it seems) pointers... sometimes an arrow pointer and sometimes a
vertical bar to select text, but not coinciding with where the cursor
is.  With text in KWrite, and the cursor being an arrow when it should
be a vertical bar, there is a big offset, so you end up selecting the
text on the line below the line you want.

After logging out it was a chore trying to select X11 because the offset
was present in the greeter (I don't believe I have experienced that
before) and you were trying to go lower than the screen to try and
select X11 from the drop-down.

Once in the X11 session everything just works like it should.

Logging out of X11 and back to the greeter things go weird again.

I didn't think the greeter used Wayland?  So there may be something else
going on.  I cannot swear to it, but I don't think I've noticed problems
in the greeter before.

As Adam posted, the offset problem already has a bug for it.  Wayland is
certainly unusable in VirtualBox, but now even the greeter has issues,
and I think that's newish.

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Re: F40 Change Proposal: KDE Plasma 6 (System Wide)

2023-09-13 Thread Ian Laurie

On 9/14/23 09:48, Neal Gompa wrote:

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 7:45 PM Ian Laurie  wrote:

I'm an Xfce user so my care factor is minimal.  I've not tried Plasma on
Wayland in the 39 branch yet but I do intend to.



Would you please report this to bugs.kde.org if it shows up in Fedora
39 KDE Beta? 
https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=kwin=wayland-generic


I'll try to do this Saturday my time.  I'll also report results here.

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Re: F40 Change Proposal: KDE Plasma 6 (System Wide)

2023-09-13 Thread Ian Laurie

On 9/14/23 05:58, František Šumšal wrote:

I second this as well. I tried to use Wayland with Plasma, but there's
a weird issue where with a multi-monitor setup, switching focus from


I have repeatedly tried Plasma on Wayland as VirtualBox guests and it
simply doesn't work.  There is a weird 10 to 20 pixel offset between the
visible mouse pointer and  what the GUI thinks is being pointed at...
which makes the GUI unusable.  I've reported this problem in the deep
dark past somewhere but nothing was done about it.  I've seen the
problem as recently as F38 during its beta period.  Plasma on X11 works
as expected.

I'm an Xfce user so my care factor is minimal.  I've not tried Plasma on
Wayland in the 39 branch yet but I do intend to.

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Re: Can we squeeze coreutils-9.4 into Fedora 39?

2023-08-30 Thread Ian Laurie

On 8/31/23 02:11, David Cantrell wrote:

I personally agree that this is enough of a change to warrant
consideration for Fedora 39, but I want Fedora QA to weigh in.


As per Adam's input I've created [1] and suggested to backport the
specific patch as a freeze exception.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2236321

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Re: Can we squeeze coreutils-9.4 into Fedora 39?

2023-08-30 Thread Ian Laurie

On 8/31/23 05:45, Adam Williamson wrote:

well, the question is not so much how useful is *this* change, but what
*other* changes does coreutils 9.4 introduce. During Beta freeze, it
would be much safer to just backport this specific change.

This is clearly not a Beta blocker, but you can propose it as a Beta
FE...


OK I have filed a BZ [1] and a freeze exception request against it,
hopefully I've done it correctly.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2236321

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Can we squeeze coreutils-9.4 into Fedora 39?

2023-08-29 Thread Ian Laurie

coreutils-9.3 brought changes to the behavior of the -v option which
broke some of my automation scripts.

Because of this I have been blocking updates to coreutils in Rawhide and
Fedora 39. and I'm running coreutils-9.2-4.fc39.x86_64.

This change in the -v option has been reverted in 9.4 (released
2023-08-29).  From [1]:

** Changes in behavior

  'cp -v' and 'mv -v' will no longer output a message for each file skipped
  due to -i, or -u.  Instead they only output this information with
--debug.
  I.e., 'cp -u -v' etc. will have the same verbosity as before
coreutils-9.3.

If it's too late to get 9.4 into 39, is it possible to locally include
this specific reverting patch?

[1] https://github.com/coreutils/coreutils/blob/master/NEWS

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Re: Replacing DNF with DNF5: changes reverted and helping steps

2023-08-07 Thread Ian Laurie

On 8/8/23 03:59, Nicola Sella wrote:

Hi all,

As discussed[1] DNF will not be obsoleted in fedora 39. The side-tag
with the reverted changes was merged[2,3] just now.
You can now try the new packages by upgrading to the newer version of
DNF5 (dnf5-5.1.1-1.fc39) which will not obsolete DNF (dnf-4-16.2-2.fc39)
anymore.

Note that, if you install the packages from the side-tag, DNF might not
be installed because it would be obsoleted by DNF5-5.1.0, from rawhide
repositories.
Therefore, if you want to upgrade and use DNF < 5 on your rawhide
system, here are some steps that should help you.

1. If you intend to install the new packages from the side-tag, you
might want to exclude rawhide repositories. You have two options:

a. First, upgrade the system to the latest packages in the side-tag:
$ dnf5 upgrade \
   --best --releasever=39 \
   --disablerepo=* \
   --enablerepo=side-tag
--repofrompath=side-tag,'https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/f39-build-side-71087/latest/x86_64/
 <https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/f39-build-side-71087/latest/x86_64/>'
Then, install DNF:
$ dnf5 install dnf \
   --best --releasever=39 \
   --disablerepo=* \
   --enablerepo=side-tag
--repofrompath=side-tag,'https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/f39-build-side-71087/latest/x86_64/
 <https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/f39-build-side-71087/latest/x86_64/>'

b. You can achieve the same goal in one step:
$ dnf5 install "dnf < 5" \
   --best --releasever=39 \
   --disablerepo=* \
   --enablerepo=side-tag
--repofrompath=side-tag,'https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/f39-build-side-71087/latest/x86_64/
 <https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/f39-build-side-71087/latest/x86_64/>'

2. If you would rather not use the side-tag OR you are updating after
the packages are available in rawhide, you should have no issues. The
same two options follow:

a. Upgrade and install:
$ dnf5 upgrade --best
$ dnf5 install dnf --best

b. Or, with the one-liner:
$ dnf5 install "dnf < 5" --best

Please, don't hesitate to reach back if you cannot install the newest
packages,



I think you may need a --nogpgcheck in there to allow it to work.

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Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-23 Thread Ian Laurie via devel

On 6/22/23 19:01, Matthew Miller wrote:

Sure, but... that's the _opposite_ of the direction things are going.


Awesome post.

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Re: Test upgrades from F37 to F38 - it will take you just a minute

2023-02-23 Thread Ian Laurie

On 2/24/23 10:17, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 2/22/23 20:30, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Do you want to make Fedora 38 better? Please spend 1 minute of your 
time and try to run:


Looked good here, just some downgrades as follows:

Downgrading:
  fwupd    x86_64 1.8.10-1.fc38
  fwupd-plugin-flashrom    x86_64 1.8.10-1.fc38
  fwupd-plugin-modem-manager   x86_64 1.8.10-1.fc38
  fwupd-plugin-uefi-capsule-data x86_64   1.8.10-1.fc38
  inxi noarch 3.3.24-2.fc38
  mock-core-configs    noarch 38.1-1.fc38


Took it a step further, did an actual upgrade on a bare metal system, 
Fedora 37 Xfce to Fedora 38, worked fine.


Dell Precision T5610 2 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2603 v2 @ 1.80GHz
(8 cores total)
NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760] (rev a1)

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Re: Test upgrades from F37 to F38 - it will take you just a minute

2023-02-23 Thread Ian Laurie

On 2/22/23 20:30, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
Do you want to make Fedora 38 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time 
and try to run:


Looked good here, just some downgrades as follows:

Downgrading:
 fwupdx86_64 1.8.10-1.fc38
 fwupd-plugin-flashromx86_64 1.8.10-1.fc38
 fwupd-plugin-modem-manager   x86_64 1.8.10-1.fc38
 fwupd-plugin-uefi-capsule-data x86_64   1.8.10-1.fc38
 inxi noarch 3.3.24-2.fc38
 mock-core-configsnoarch 38.1-1.fc38


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[EPEL-devel] Re: Hints for manual upgrading from CentOS 8 Stream to CentOS / Alma / Rockey 9

2023-02-08 Thread Ian Laurie

On 2/9/23 07:38, Richard Shaw wrote:
I know upgrades are not supported but its for a small home server that 
really only does two things:
For a home server you can use RHEL, the real deal, why mess with 
downstream rebuilds?


Just a thought.

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Rawhide with kernel-6.2 requires VBox SVGA video mode to boot in VirtualBox

2022-12-27 Thread Ian Laurie
I've not been able to boot Rawhide in VirtualBox with any 6.2 kernel. 
Last good kernel was kernel-6.1.0-65.fc38.x86_64.  My host is Fedora 37 
all updates applied.


Experimentation reveals that I can get my VMs to boot with a 6.2 kernel 
if I use the old "VBOX SVGA" display setting rather than the "correct" 
"VMSVGA" setting.


The old setting produces a configuration alert with Linux systems 
(although it does work).  This feels like a kernel problem to me rather 
than a VirtualBox problem at this point.


Anyone else seeing this, I can't be the only one?

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Re: Fedora 37 compose report: 20221108.n.0 changes

2022-11-08 Thread Ian Laurie

On 11/9/22 01:18, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote:

OLD: Fedora-37-20221107.n.0
NEW: Fedora-37-20221108.n.0

[big snip]

This seems to have all the gnome fixes, plus a load of KDE fixes, and 
the 6.0.7 kernel shouldn't this be a release candidate?


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Re: Karma for OpenSSL needed

2022-11-01 Thread Ian Laurie

  
  
On 11/2/22 04:22, Dmitry Belyavskiy
  wrote:


  
  Dear colleagues,


I've just pushed the updates for OpenSSL fixing 2 CVEs
  evaluated as HIGH. Could you please check the freshly pushed
  builds to get necessary karma ASAP?
  

Are we not fixing Fedora 35?  It won't be EOL until mid December
  (delays in 37 pushed it out a few times).

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[EPEL-devel] Re: Qt update and packages rebuild

2022-10-03 Thread Ian Laurie

On 10/4/22 08:16, Germano Massullo wrote:


There hasn't been a qt update in CentOS Stream 8 or 9 since May 2022, 
so you'll have to give more information.


I double checked and I found out the origin of my misunderstanding. I 
wrote everything in this comment

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129662#c8


I guess the issue here is that if a package is in EPEL9, but not in 
EPEL9-NEXT, and it can install, then "sudo dnf install keepassxc" is 
going to work just fine, and back when I did it, it did.


As a an unrelated issue, running "sudo dnf upgrade" from the command 
line, as I like to do, in GNOME results in gnome-shell crashing quite 
often, leaving updates in an indeterminate state and a possibly a 
corrupted database, so one is forced to use gnome-shell when in GNOME. 
However gnome-shell doesn't inform you of an updates conflict, so my 
problem may have dated back to May for all I know.


I became aware of the QT conflict when I used the command line to do 
updates from a virtual console, but the issue could have been there from 
any time in the past.


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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F36 to F37

2022-09-13 Thread Ian Laurie

On 9/12/22 22:59, Miroslav Suchý wrote:


Do you want to make Fedora 37 better? Please spend 1 minute of your 
time and try to run:


I have updated 5 native systems running Fedora 36 (all running Xfce) to 
Fedora 37 as follows:


(1) ASUS G750JS 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz

Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller 
(rev 06)


NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 870M] (rev a1)

(2) Dell Precision T5610 2 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2603 v2 @ 1.80GHz 
(8 cores total)


NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760] (rev a1)

(3) Dell Precision T3600 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz (8 
cores total)


NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [NVS 310] (rev a1)

(4) Dell Optiplex 3040 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6100T CPU @ 3.20GHz

Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)

(5) Intel NUC i7 NUC11PAH 1 x 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz

Intel Corporation TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] (rev 01)

All working fine. I have one more native system to convert, which is the 
exact same H/W platform as (5) above (but with less memory), which I 
will do after release.


Upgrades were performed around the time of the updates-testing 
activation point (long before the beta was released). I recall some 
non-show-stopping complaints from dnf, but the upgrades happened without 
a blocking incident and all machines are functioning normally now.


Ian

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Re: VirtualBox and HOST kernel-5.17.12 weirdness

2022-06-15 Thread Ian Laurie

On 6/16/22 06:36, Hans de Goede wrote:

Hi,

On 6/15/22 07:01, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 6/12/22 14:34, Sérgio Basto wrote:

On Sun, 2022-06-12 at 13:59 +1000, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 6/12/22 11:20, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 6/12/22 09:46, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 6/12/22 00:58, Hans de Goede wrote:

Hi,

On 6/11/22 01:02, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

On 2022-06-08 15:00, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

Ian Laurie wrote on Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:17 p.m.:

Is anyone else seeing crashes and other strange events in
VirtualBox
6.1.34 (from RPMFusion) with Linux guests when the Linux
host is
running
Fedora 36 with kernel-5.17.12?

[...]
The weird thing is that it works on other CPUs, an AMD
Athlon X2
and an Intel 10th generation i5-10500H.  Just my Ivy Bridge
Intel
i7-4820K has the problem.  I did try the kernel boot
parameter
mitigations=off, in case the Spectre or other workarounds
were
wrong for Ivy Bridge, but it still didn't work.

One more data point.  It fails on an Intel i5-750 too.  Same
broken
data connections and failed checksums.

My go-to test is to use "dnf clean" followed by "dnf upgrade"
running as root in a console (thus no networking is between
keyboard and computer - pipes often fail).  My server
snapshot
fails to get through the complete dnf upgrade on kernel
5.17.13,
works fine if booting the host with the earlier kernel
5.17.11
(using the GRUB boot menu to pick the older OS).

So, should we report this to VirtualBox?  They seem like the
most
appropriate people.  Kernel people would be a possibility?

Found a relevant bug report:
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/20976

And a forum discussion:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7=106071

Though they don't know that it only happens on certain CPUs
(or
motherboards or ?).  I'll add some notes about that there.

Note the rpmfusion VirtualBox packages now include this fix:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/Virtualization/virtualbox/fixes_for_kernel_5.18.patch?expand=1
  


See:
https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=22655

Which is supposed to fix this.

Regards,

Hans

I'm currently running this version, with the 5.18 fixes, but it's
not
working with kernels 5.17.12/13 or 14.  A person reporting
success
with 5.18.3 reported not having problems with the 5.17 kernels,
so
maybe there are multiple issues (has been suggested it may be
CPU/chipset related).  I have not yet tried it on 5.18 but I
certainly will today.

Ian


If I understand Sérgio's comment #15 correctly, the 5.18 kernel
fixes
don't address the CPU issues possibly created by CVE-2022-1789
fixes,
so there is probably no point in me trying an early 5.18.  So the
CPU
issues are common to both later 5.17 and 5.18.  Sadly all my
hardware
here falls under the broken category:

[1] ASUS G750JS 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz
Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 06)
NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 870M] (rev a1)
Fedora 36

[2] Intel NUC i7 NUC11PAH 1 x 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7
@
2.80GHz
Intel Corporation TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] (rev 01)
Fedora 36


Since it was going to cost me nothing but time, I tested
kernel-5.18.3-200.fc36.x86_64 with my existing
VirtualBox-6.1.34-4.fc36.x86_64 (RPMFusion updates-testing) and to my
astonishment it seems to be working.  On both platforms mentioned
above.  So maybe my understanding about the CVE fixes was not
correct.
Or something got fixed between 5.18.2 and 5.18.3 ?  Anyway the 5.18.3
Fedora kernel on Koji with the latest VirtualBox from RPMFusion still
in
testing seems to be working on 2 h/w platforms that were previously
failing from 5.17.12.

thank you for the feedback , yes you understand me well, but I hadn't
made tests with kernel-5.18.x

After read this thread this afternoon , I realize that I also have one
Intel(R) Core(TM), I have the i5-9300H CPU and I noticed have network
issues with  kernel-5.17.12.  so I downgrade the kernel kernel-5.17.9-
200.fc35.x86_64 and I confirmed that I hadn't the issues with network.

So I was also affected by kernel-5.17.12, but just had weird network
issues ...

So now, I not sure anymore if we have 2 issues or if it all the same
i.e. kvm mitigations which was in first place on kernels 5.18, or even
if virtualbox kernel-5.18 patch is unrelated. The important for me is
kernel-5.18 patch for virtualbox don't have regressions .


Sérgio,

Now that 5.18.3 & 5.18.4 are working as VirtualBox hosts, we seem to have 
problems with 5.18.x as a guest.  For me, 5.18.x kernels are not seeing the network 
interface.  I am seeing this with 5.18.3 and 5.18.4 in the guest, regardless of the 
outer host.  In fact I am seeing this on both Linux and Windows 10 hosts.

This is due the e1000 nic driver accidentally being disabled in
the 5.18 kernels. This is fixed in 5.18.4-301 / 5.18.4-201 / 5.18.4-101

Regards,

Hans
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Re: VirtualBox and HOST kernel-5.17.12 weirdness

2022-06-14 Thread Ian Laurie

On 6/12/22 14:34, Sérgio Basto wrote:

On Sun, 2022-06-12 at 13:59 +1000, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 6/12/22 11:20, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 6/12/22 09:46, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 6/12/22 00:58, Hans de Goede wrote:

Hi,

On 6/11/22 01:02, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

On 2022-06-08 15:00, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

Ian Laurie wrote on Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:17 p.m.:

Is anyone else seeing crashes and other strange events in
VirtualBox
6.1.34 (from RPMFusion) with Linux guests when the Linux
host is
running
Fedora 36 with kernel-5.17.12?

[...]
The weird thing is that it works on other CPUs, an AMD
Athlon X2
and an Intel 10th generation i5-10500H.  Just my Ivy Bridge
Intel
i7-4820K has the problem.  I did try the kernel boot
parameter
mitigations=off, in case the Spectre or other workarounds
were
wrong for Ivy Bridge, but it still didn't work.

One more data point.  It fails on an Intel i5-750 too.  Same
broken
data connections and failed checksums.

My go-to test is to use "dnf clean" followed by "dnf upgrade"
running as root in a console (thus no networking is between
keyboard and computer - pipes often fail).  My server
snapshot
fails to get through the complete dnf upgrade on kernel
5.17.13,
works fine if booting the host with the earlier kernel
5.17.11
(using the GRUB boot menu to pick the older OS).

So, should we report this to VirtualBox?  They seem like the
most
appropriate people.  Kernel people would be a possibility?

Found a relevant bug report:
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/20976

And a forum discussion:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7=106071

Though they don't know that it only happens on certain CPUs
(or
motherboards or ?).  I'll add some notes about that there.

Note the rpmfusion VirtualBox packages now include this fix:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/Virtualization/virtualbox/fixes_for_kernel_5.18.patch?expand=1
  



See:
https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=22655

Which is supposed to fix this.

Regards,

Hans

I'm currently running this version, with the 5.18 fixes, but it's
not
working with kernels 5.17.12/13 or 14.  A person reporting
success
with 5.18.3 reported not having problems with the 5.17 kernels,
so
maybe there are multiple issues (has been suggested it may be
CPU/chipset related).  I have not yet tried it on 5.18 but I
certainly will today.

Ian


If I understand Sérgio's comment #15 correctly, the 5.18 kernel
fixes
don't address the CPU issues possibly created by CVE-2022-1789
fixes,
so there is probably no point in me trying an early 5.18.  So the
CPU
issues are common to both later 5.17 and 5.18.  Sadly all my
hardware
here falls under the broken category:

[1] ASUS G750JS 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz
Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics
Controller (rev 06)
NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 870M] (rev a1)
Fedora 36

[2] Intel NUC i7 NUC11PAH 1 x 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7
@
2.80GHz
Intel Corporation TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] (rev 01)
Fedora 36


Since it was going to cost me nothing but time, I tested
kernel-5.18.3-200.fc36.x86_64 with my existing
VirtualBox-6.1.34-4.fc36.x86_64 (RPMFusion updates-testing) and to my
astonishment it seems to be working.  On both platforms mentioned
above.  So maybe my understanding about the CVE fixes was not
correct.
Or something got fixed between 5.18.2 and 5.18.3 ?  Anyway the 5.18.3
Fedora kernel on Koji with the latest VirtualBox from RPMFusion still
in
testing seems to be working on 2 h/w platforms that were previously
failing from 5.17.12.

thank you for the feedback , yes you understand me well, but I hadn't
made tests with kernel-5.18.x

After read this thread this afternoon , I realize that I also have one
Intel(R) Core(TM), I have the i5-9300H CPU and I noticed have network
issues with  kernel-5.17.12.  so I downgrade the kernel kernel-5.17.9-
200.fc35.x86_64 and I confirmed that I hadn't the issues with network.

So I was also affected by kernel-5.17.12, but just had weird network
issues ...

So now, I not sure anymore if we have 2 issues or if it all the same
i.e. kvm mitigations which was in first place on kernels 5.18, or even
if virtualbox kernel-5.18 patch is unrelated. The important for me is
kernel-5.18 patch for virtualbox don't have regressions .


Sérgio,

Now that 5.18.3 & 5.18.4 are working as VirtualBox hosts, we seem to have 
problems with 5.18.x as a guest.  For me, 5.18.x kernels are not seeing the network 
interface.  I am seeing this with 5.18.3 and 5.18.4 in the guest, regardless of the 
outer host.  In fact I am seeing this on both Linux and Windows 10 hosts.

Ian

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Re: VirtualBox and HOST kernel-5.17.12 weirdness

2022-06-11 Thread Ian Laurie


On 6/12/22 11:20, Ian Laurie wrote:


On 6/12/22 09:46, Ian Laurie wrote:


On 6/12/22 00:58, Hans de Goede wrote:

Hi,

On 6/11/22 01:02, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

On 2022-06-08 15:00, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

Ian Laurie wrote on Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:17 p.m.:

Is anyone else seeing crashes and other strange events in VirtualBox
6.1.34 (from RPMFusion) with Linux guests when the Linux host is 
running

Fedora 36 with kernel-5.17.12?

[...]
The weird thing is that it works on other CPUs, an AMD Athlon X2 
and an Intel 10th generation i5-10500H.  Just my Ivy Bridge Intel 
i7-4820K has the problem.  I did try the kernel boot parameter 
mitigations=off, in case the Spectre or other workarounds were 
wrong for Ivy Bridge, but it still didn't work.
One more data point.  It fails on an Intel i5-750 too.  Same broken 
data connections and failed checksums.


My go-to test is to use "dnf clean" followed by "dnf upgrade" 
running as root in a console (thus no networking is between 
keyboard and computer - pipes often fail).  My server snapshot 
fails to get through the complete dnf upgrade on kernel 5.17.13, 
works fine if booting the host with the earlier kernel 5.17.11 
(using the GRUB boot menu to pick the older OS).


So, should we report this to VirtualBox?  They seem like the most 
appropriate people.  Kernel people would be a possibility?


Found a relevant bug report:
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/20976

And a forum discussion:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7=106071

Though they don't know that it only happens on certain CPUs (or 
motherboards or ?).  I'll add some notes about that there.

Note the rpmfusion VirtualBox packages now include this fix:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/Virtualization/virtualbox/fixes_for_kernel_5.18.patch?expand=1 



See:
https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=22655

Which is supposed to fix this.

Regards,

Hans


I'm currently running this version, with the 5.18 fixes, but it's not 
working with kernels 5.17.12/13 or 14.  A person reporting success 
with 5.18.3 reported not having problems with the 5.17 kernels, so 
maybe there are multiple issues (has been suggested it may be 
CPU/chipset related).  I have not yet tried it on 5.18 but I 
certainly will today.


Ian

If I understand Sérgio's comment #15 correctly, the 5.18 kernel fixes 
don't address the CPU issues possibly created by CVE-2022-1789 fixes, 
so there is probably no point in me trying an early 5.18.  So the CPU 
issues are common to both later 5.17 and 5.18.  Sadly all my hardware 
here falls under the broken category:


[1] ASUS G750JS 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz
Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics 
Controller (rev 06)

NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 870M] (rev a1)
Fedora 36

[2] Intel NUC i7 NUC11PAH 1 x 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 
2.80GHz

Intel Corporation TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] (rev 01)
Fedora 36



Since it was going to cost me nothing but time, I tested 
kernel-5.18.3-200.fc36.x86_64 with my existing 
VirtualBox-6.1.34-4.fc36.x86_64 (RPMFusion updates-testing) and to my 
astonishment it seems to be working.  On both platforms mentioned 
above.  So maybe my understanding about the CVE fixes was not correct.  
Or something got fixed between 5.18.2 and 5.18.3 ?  Anyway the 5.18.3 
Fedora kernel on Koji with the latest VirtualBox from RPMFusion still in 
testing seems to be working on 2 h/w platforms that were previously 
failing from 5.17.12.


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Re: VirtualBox and HOST kernel-5.17.12 weirdness

2022-06-11 Thread Ian Laurie


On 6/12/22 09:46, Ian Laurie wrote:


On 6/12/22 00:58, Hans de Goede wrote:

Hi,

On 6/11/22 01:02, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

On 2022-06-08 15:00, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

Ian Laurie wrote on Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:17 p.m.:

Is anyone else seeing crashes and other strange events in VirtualBox
6.1.34 (from RPMFusion) with Linux guests when the Linux host is 
running

Fedora 36 with kernel-5.17.12?

[...]
The weird thing is that it works on other CPUs, an AMD Athlon X2 
and an Intel 10th generation i5-10500H.  Just my Ivy Bridge Intel 
i7-4820K has the problem.  I did try the kernel boot parameter 
mitigations=off, in case the Spectre or other workarounds were 
wrong for Ivy Bridge, but it still didn't work.
One more data point.  It fails on an Intel i5-750 too.  Same broken 
data connections and failed checksums.


My go-to test is to use "dnf clean" followed by "dnf upgrade" 
running as root in a console (thus no networking is between keyboard 
and computer - pipes often fail).  My server snapshot fails to get 
through the complete dnf upgrade on kernel 5.17.13, works fine if 
booting the host with the earlier kernel 5.17.11 (using the GRUB 
boot menu to pick the older OS).


So, should we report this to VirtualBox?  They seem like the most 
appropriate people.  Kernel people would be a possibility?


Found a relevant bug report:
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/20976

And a forum discussion:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7=106071

Though they don't know that it only happens on certain CPUs (or 
motherboards or ?).  I'll add some notes about that there.

Note the rpmfusion VirtualBox packages now include this fix:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/Virtualization/virtualbox/fixes_for_kernel_5.18.patch?expand=1 



See:
https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=22655

Which is supposed to fix this.

Regards,

Hans


I'm currently running this version, with the 5.18 fixes, but it's not 
working with kernels 5.17.12/13 or 14.  A person reporting success 
with 5.18.3 reported not having problems with the 5.17 kernels, so 
maybe there are multiple issues (has been suggested it may be 
CPU/chipset related).  I have not yet tried it on 5.18 but I certainly 
will today.


Ian

If I understand Sérgio's comment #15 correctly, the 5.18 kernel fixes 
don't address the CPU issues possibly created by CVE-2022-1789 fixes, so 
there is probably no point in me trying an early 5.18.  So the CPU 
issues are common to both later 5.17 and 5.18.  Sadly all my hardware 
here falls under the broken category:


[1] ASUS G750JS 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz
Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller 
(rev 06)

NVIDIA Corporation GK104M [GeForce GTX 870M] (rev a1)
Fedora 36

[2] Intel NUC i7 NUC11PAH 1 x 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
Intel Corporation TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] (rev 01)
Fedora 36

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Re: VirtualBox and HOST kernel-5.17.12 weirdness

2022-06-11 Thread Ian Laurie


On 6/12/22 00:58, Hans de Goede wrote:

Hi,

On 6/11/22 01:02, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

On 2022-06-08 15:00, Alexander G. M. Smith wrote:

Ian Laurie wrote on Friday, 3 June 2022 at 11:17 p.m.:

Is anyone else seeing crashes and other strange events in VirtualBox
6.1.34 (from RPMFusion) with Linux guests when the Linux host is running
Fedora 36 with kernel-5.17.12?

[...]
The weird thing is that it works on other CPUs, an AMD Athlon X2 and an Intel 
10th generation i5-10500H.  Just my Ivy Bridge Intel i7-4820K has the problem.  
I did try the kernel boot parameter mitigations=off, in case the Spectre or 
other workarounds were wrong for Ivy Bridge, but it still didn't work.

One more data point.  It fails on an Intel i5-750 too.  Same broken data 
connections and failed checksums.

My go-to test is to use "dnf clean" followed by "dnf upgrade" running as root 
in a console (thus no networking is between keyboard and computer - pipes often fail).  My server 
snapshot fails to get through the complete dnf upgrade on kernel 5.17.13, works fine if booting the 
host with the earlier kernel 5.17.11 (using the GRUB boot menu to pick the older OS).

So, should we report this to VirtualBox?  They seem like the most appropriate 
people.  Kernel people would be a possibility?

Found a relevant bug report:
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/20976

And a forum discussion:
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=7=106071

Though they don't know that it only happens on certain CPUs (or motherboards or 
?).  I'll add some notes about that there.

Note the rpmfusion VirtualBox packages now include this fix:
https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file/Virtualization/virtualbox/fixes_for_kernel_5.18.patch?expand=1

See:
https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=22655

Which is supposed to fix this.

Regards,

Hans


I'm currently running this version, with the 5.18 fixes, but it's not 
working with kernels 5.17.12/13 or 14.  A person reporting success with 
5.18.3 reported not having problems with the 5.17 kernels, so maybe 
there are multiple issues (has been suggested it may be CPU/chipset 
related).  I have not yet tried it on 5.18 but I certainly will today.


Ian


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Re: VirtualBox and HOST kernel-5.17.12 weirdness

2022-06-06 Thread Ian Laurie


On 6/6/22 20:25, Paul Black via devel wrote:

On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 at 05:17, Ian Laurie  wrote:

Is anyone else seeing crashes and other strange events in VirtualBox
6.1.34 (from RPMFusion) with Linux guests when the Linux host is
running
Fedora 36 with kernel-5.17.12?



I do and on two different machines (one a Lubuntu guest and the other 
with CentOS 7). 5.17.11 works fine on both.


I tried 6.1.35 which has fixes for 5.18 - 
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/20914 - but that was no different.


With 6.1.97, the problem seems harder to trigger but not impossible.



Problem persists with 5.17.13, for VirtualBox users seems the last 
usable kernel is 5.17.11.


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Re: VirtualBox and HOST kernel-5.17.12 weirdness

2022-06-03 Thread Ian Laurie


On 6/4/22 14:17, Ian Laurie wrote:
Is anyone else seeing crashes and other strange events in VirtualBox 
6.1.34 (from RPMFusion) with Linux guests when the Linux host is 
running Fedora 36 with kernel-5.17.12?


When I first started to see problems on my first host I blamed my SSD 
drive, memory etc until I noticed the same problems on another host 
system.  The 2 hosts are running very different h/w (one is an ASUS 
laptop the other an Intel NUC).


Long story short I can fix all the problem on both hosts by booting 
kernel-5.15.11.


Weirdness examples...

(1) If you boot Fedora 36 Cinnamon guest, login, launch a terminal and 
just drag it around the screen... Cinnamon crashes. Sometimes the 
terminal accepts text, sometimes not requiring the VM to be terminated 
the nasty way.


(2) GNOME... similar to above but you get knocked back to the greeter.

(3) Xfce... if you run updates, a lot of the downloads have hashes 
that don't match, requiring re-download.  This happens in Cinnamon also.


(4) Any GUI... if you run TOR browser it crashes quickly with error 
139 usually, or randomly some other error.


I am not blaming the kernel, the issue could be a kernel change 
VirtualBox isn't compatible with.  But since I have this on 2 host was 
wondering if others are already some way along in working out the 
problem.



Sorry, typo, should be "I can fix all the problems on both hosts by booting 
kernel-5.17.11".

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VirtualBox and HOST kernel-5.17.12 weirdness

2022-06-03 Thread Ian Laurie
Is anyone else seeing crashes and other strange events in VirtualBox 
6.1.34 (from RPMFusion) with Linux guests when the Linux host is running 
Fedora 36 with kernel-5.17.12?


When I first started to see problems on my first host I blamed my SSD 
drive, memory etc until I noticed the same problems on another host 
system.  The 2 hosts are running very different h/w (one is an ASUS 
laptop the other an Intel NUC).


Long story short I can fix all the problem on both hosts by booting 
kernel-5.15.11.


Weirdness examples...

(1) If you boot Fedora 36 Cinnamon guest, login, launch a terminal and 
just drag it around the screen... Cinnamon crashes. Sometimes the 
terminal accepts text, sometimes not requiring the VM to be terminated 
the nasty way.


(2) GNOME... similar to above but you get knocked back to the greeter.

(3) Xfce... if you run updates, a lot of the downloads have hashes that 
don't match, requiring re-download.  This happens in Cinnamon also.


(4) Any GUI... if you run TOR browser it crashes quickly with error 139 
usually, or randomly some other error.


I am not blaming the kernel, the issue could be a kernel change 
VirtualBox isn't compatible with.  But since I have this on 2 host was 
wondering if others are already some way along in working out the problem.


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Re: Possible regression in GNOME in Fedora 36 Branched 20220401.n.0

2022-04-03 Thread Ian Laurie

On 4/4/22 10:09, Brandon Nielsen via devel wrote:

On 4/3/22 6:45 PM, Ian Laurie wrote:
I noticed in VirtualBox with GNOME and 20220401.n.0 that if I resized 
the VM window when logged into GNOME it slammed me back to the  
greeter, apparently without killing my login session.


I still had a VM from a week ago based on the 1.2 cut, but it was 
fully updated about a week ago.  This VM did not exhibit this issue, 
but after running latest updates today, it did.


I don't know how important VirtualBox is in the grand scheme of 
things, and don't have an easy way to test this quickly in QEMU/KVM.  
But if someone else could check this out and can confirm the same, 
then we need a BZ ticket for it I think.


I logged this as a warning for now:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0_Installation 





I'm pretty sure I have seen the same in Gnome Boxes, but I haven't had a 
chance to look into it. It doesn't seem to happen every time.


I've done some playing and it looks like it is the first resize after 
the first login after a boot causes it.  After that it doesn't seem to 
happen (or it is very infrequent if it does).


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Re: Possible regression in GNOME in Fedora 36 Branched 20220401.n.0

2022-04-03 Thread Ian Laurie

On 4/4/22 10:00, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 4/3/22 16:45, Ian Laurie wrote:
I noticed in VirtualBox with GNOME and 20220401.n.0 that if I resized 
the VM window when logged into GNOME it slammed me back to the  
greeter, apparently without killing my login session.


What video device does VirtualBox provide to the OS?


That machine is at another location, but I am 99% sure it would be 
VMSVGA with 3D Acceleration turned off (which is the default).  I 
believe VMSVGA emulates a VMware SVGA graphics device.


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Possible regression in GNOME in Fedora 36 Branched 20220401.n.0

2022-04-03 Thread Ian Laurie
I noticed in VirtualBox with GNOME and 20220401.n.0 that if I resized 
the VM window when logged into GNOME it slammed me back to the  greeter, 
apparently without killing my login session.


I still had a VM from a week ago based on the 1.2 cut, but it was fully 
updated about a week ago.  This VM did not exhibit this issue, but after 
running latest updates today, it did.


I don't know how important VirtualBox is in the grand scheme of things, 
and don't have an easy way to test this quickly in QEMU/KVM.  But if 
someone else could check this out and can confirm the same, then we need 
a BZ ticket for it I think.


I logged this as a warning for now:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_36_Branched_20220401.n.0_Installation

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[EPEL-devel] Re: slowing down the stalled request process

2022-03-30 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/31/22 02:43, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:

[snip]


(*) And while a month seems better, I also see
that timeframe being frustrating to others who
want to use those packages, or to build
dependent packages.  No great answers.
This comment is only loosely related to this thread, but as just an end 
user I would rather get a "no can do" or a "can do later" on an EPEL 
request rather than no response at all.


I have two EPEL 9 requests outstanding with no response now for a week 
short of 4 months.  Both packages are in EPEL 8 so I considered the 
requests very reasonable.  I can understand that RHEL 9 changes may have 
introduced "difficulties" but some response, any response, would be nice.


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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F35 to F36

2022-03-15 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/16/22 01:13, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:

On 15/03/2022 01:25, Ian Laurie wrote:
Sadly it's not able to boot graphically, but I think the issue is 
with my RPMFusion NVIDIA drivers.  I can login fine to a virtual 
console however, and lightdm is running, just not working.  The 
startx command also fails.


1. You need to disable UEFI Secure Boot or configure akmods to 
automatically sign all built kmods (no documentation available yet).
2. On 470xx drivers branch you must disable Wayland on GDM (Fedora 36 
system-wide change). NVIDIA support Wayland only on 495.xx branch or 
newer.


As an 470.xx NVIDIA drivers maintainer, I think I should disable 
Wayland support on our side during the package installation.


Thanks for that info.  I'm running Xfce so I have lightdm not gdm.  In 
my case it was UEFI enabled in the BIOS, but this would have been the 
case with fc35 as well so I'm a bit perplexed why previously with Fedora 
35 it "appeared" to work but failed miserably in Fedora 36.  Also after 
the upgrade to 36, I was able to get graphics by booting the last 35 kernel.


Maybe the NVIDIA drivers were never working as such before, but somehow 
it was gracefully "falling back" to default drivers with the old kernel 
but not the new one?  No idea what was happening.


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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F35 to F36

2022-03-15 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/12/22 04:43, Miroslav Suchý wrote:


Do you want to make Fedora 36 better? Please spend 1 minute of your 
time and try to run:



I've done 2 upgrades from 35 -> 36 (real, not tests) on native systems.

On one, as explained earlier in this thread , I had to migrate 
VirtualBox from the Oracle version to the RPM Fusion version, and also 
ditch the RPM Fusion NVIDIA drivers which were preventing a boot to a 
graphical greeter (and also breaking the startx command), presumably 
because of a  comparability issue with the 5.17 kernel.


On the second system it just worked without fiddling.  The systems were 
as follows:


[1] Dell Precision T5610 2 x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2603 v2 @ 1.80GHz 
(8 cores total)

NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 760] (rev a1)

[2] Dell Optiplex 3040 1 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6100T CPU @ 3.20GHz
Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 (rev 06)

Both systems are relatively legacy unfortunately, but still looking good 
here.


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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F35 to F36

2022-03-14 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/15/22 11:25, Ian Laurie wrote:

On 3/14/22 20:55, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:

On 14/03/2022 10:49, Ian Laurie wrote:
Yeah I'm thinking I should, and not just because of this.  Mainly 
for on-time kernel support.


Also, since Fedora 36 the NVIDIA and VirtualBox kmods can be 
automatically signed after the build to support UEFI Secure Boot.


I decided to go for it on my server/workstation at work and upgrade to 
36 (after moving to RPMFusion's VirtualBox).


Sadly it's not able to boot graphically, but I think the issue is with 
my RPMFusion NVIDIA drivers.  I can login fine to a virtual console 
however, and lightdm is running, just not working.  The startx command 
also fails.


If I boot my last fc35 kernel-5.16.14-200.fc35.x86_64 everything works 
with the GUI..



Getting rid of the NVIDIA stuff has fixed things for now, I can boot 
graphically with the fc36 kernel.



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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F35 to F36

2022-03-14 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/14/22 20:55, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:

On 14/03/2022 10:49, Ian Laurie wrote:
Yeah I'm thinking I should, and not just because of this.  Mainly for 
on-time kernel support.


Also, since Fedora 36 the NVIDIA and VirtualBox kmods can be 
automatically signed after the build to support UEFI Secure Boot.


I decided to go for it on my server/workstation at work and upgrade to 
36 (after moving to RPMFusion's VirtualBox).


Sadly it's not able to boot graphically, but I think the issue is with 
my RPMFusion NVIDIA drivers.  I can login fine to a virtual console 
however, and lightdm is running, just not working.  The startx command 
also fails.


If I boot my last fc35 kernel-5.16.14-200.fc35.x86_64 everything works 
with the GUI..


Welcome to zuke
Running Fedora release 36 (Thirty Six)
kernel-5.16.14-200.fc35.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Mar 11 20:31:18 UTC 2022

zuke$ rpm -qa | grep nvidia
kmod-nvidia-470xx-5.16.10-200.fc35.x86_64-470.103.01-1.fc35.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-470xx-5.16.11-200.fc35.x86_64-470.103.01-1.fc35.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-470xx-5.16.12-200.fc35.x86_64-470.103.01-1.fc35.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-470xx-5.16.13-200.fc35.x86_64-470.103.01-1.fc35.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-kmodsrc-470.103.01-3.fc36.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-libs-470.103.01-3.fc36.x86_64
akmod-nvidia-470xx-470.103.01-2.fc36.x86_64
nvidia-settings-470xx-470.103.01-2.fc36.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-470.103.01-3.fc36.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-470xx-5.17.0-0.rc7.116.fc36.x86_64-470.103.01-2.fc36.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-470xx-5.16.14-200.fc35.x86_64-470.103.01-2.fc36.x86_64
zuke$

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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F35 to F36

2022-03-14 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/14/22 20:55, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:

On 14/03/2022 10:49, Ian Laurie wrote:
Yeah I'm thinking I should, and not just because of this.  Mainly for 
on-time kernel support.


Also, since Fedora 36 the NVIDIA and VirtualBox kmods can be 
automatically signed after the build to support UEFI Secure Boot.


Yup.  Consider it done.

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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F35 to F36

2022-03-14 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/14/22 19:15, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:

On 14/03/2022 04:39, Ian Laurie wrote:
  Problem: package VirtualBox-6.1-6.1.32_149290_fedora33-1.x86_64 
requires libvpx.so.6()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed


Use VirtualBox from the RPM Fusion repository.



Yeah I'm thinking I should, and not just because of this.  Mainly for 
on-time kernel support.


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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F35 to F36

2022-03-13 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/12/22 04:43, Miroslav Suchý wrote:


dnf --releasever=36 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f36 \
--enablerepo=updates-testing \
$(rpm -q fedora-repos-modular >/dev/null && echo 
--enablerepo=updates-testing-modular) \

--assumeno distro-sync


For me the only error I received was:

Error:
 Problem: package VirtualBox-6.1-6.1.32_149290_fedora33-1.x86_64 
requires libvpx.so.6()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed

  - libvpx-1.10.0-2.fc35.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade repository
  - problem with installed package 
VirtualBox-6.1-6.1.32_149290_fedora33-1.x86_64

(try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages)


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Re: Fedora 34 cryptsetup fails to mount veracrypt volume with kernel 5.11.3, worked in 5.11.2

2021-03-09 Thread Ian Laurie
Just FYI kernel 5.11.5 still doesn't work for me, 5.11.2 does work. 
Didn't check 5.11.4 however.


On 3/10/21 7:50 AM, Ian Laurie wrote:

Thanks Milan, turns out our generated passphrase is exactly 64 bytes long.


If your passphrase is longer than 63 characters, please read
https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/-/issues/627
(And try 5.11.4 kernel.)

If not, please report this upstream (or to bugzilla) with more info.

Milan




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Re: Fedora 34 cryptsetup fails to mount veracrypt volume with kernel 5.11.3, worked in 5.11.2

2021-03-09 Thread Ian Laurie

Thanks Milan, turns out our generated passphrase is exactly 64 bytes long.


If your passphrase is longer than 63 characters, please read
https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/-/issues/627
(And try 5.11.4 kernel.)

If not, please report this upstream (or to bugzilla) with more info.

Milan


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Fedora 34 cryptsetup fails to mount veracrypt volume with kernel 5.11.3, worked in 5.11.2

2021-03-09 Thread Ian Laurie
Fedora 34 with latest updates (kernel-5.11.3-300.fc34.x86_64) won't 
mount Veracrypt volumes.  I can boot with the previous kernel 5.11.2 and 
it works fine.


kernel-5.11.3-300.fc34.x86_64
cryptsetup-2.3.4-2.fc34.x86_64

Commands I'm using are:

sudo cryptsetup open /dev/sdb1 vcvolume --type tcrypt --veracrypt 
--tcrypt-hidden

sudo mount /dev/mapper/vcvolume $HOME/secure

If I install and use Veracrypt I can mount the volume on 5.11.3 
(presumably because it's not using the kernel mechanisms to do it).


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Re: Unable to install using Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-34-20210213.n.0.iso

2021-02-14 Thread Ian Laurie

Sorry, fixed, I'll send just plain text.

Ian

On 15/02/2021 5:18 am, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 12:24:12PM +1100, Ian Laurie wrote:

Hey Ian... would it be possible for you to adjust your mail client to
send text and html instead of just html? Many on this list expect the
text part of emails to be readable. Thanks. ;)

As for the perf error, there was a thread on it on the test list:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/t...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/SXMEEBXPIYXEMNZKJO3STBLW6MKK4SWA/

It should get fixed tomorrow.

Thanks for testing things!

kevin


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Re: Unable to install using Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-34-20210213.n.0.iso

2021-02-13 Thread Ian Laurie

  
  
Tried KDE.  Part way through the installation got the following
error:

"The following error occurred while installing the payload.  This is
a fatal error and installation will be aborted.

DNF error:Error in POSTIN scriptlet in rpm package
xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi"

Ian

On 14/02/2021 1:29 pm, Ian Laurie
  wrote:


  
  It looks like the perf-5.11.0-0.rc7 dependency issue was caused by
  selecting the "C Development Tools and Libraries" option on the
  right side, so presumably MATE would have worked without that
  selected.
  
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I tried testing out
  Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-34-20210213.n.0.iso with an
  Xfce and MATE install, both failed.
  
  I've attached screen shots of the error my software selection
  gave me for each attempt.
  
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Re: Unable to install using Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-34-20210213.n.0.iso

2021-02-13 Thread Ian Laurie

  
  
It looks like the perf-5.11.0-0.rc7 dependency issue was caused by
selecting the "C Development Tools and Libraries" option on the
right side, so presumably MATE would have worked without that
selected.

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  wrote:


  
  I tried testing out
Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-34-20210213.n.0.iso with an
Xfce and MATE install, both failed.

I've attached screen shots of the error my software selection
gave me for each attempt.

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Unable to install using Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-34-20210213.n.0.iso

2021-02-13 Thread Ian Laurie

  
  
I tried testing out
  Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-34-20210213.n.0.iso with an Xfce
  and MATE install, both failed.
  
  I've attached screen shots of the error my software selection gave
  me for each attempt.
  
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Re: Rawhide hangs booting 5.11.0-rc2

2021-01-12 Thread Ian Laurie

I've managed to find and fix the bug which is causing this today,
and I have posted a patch fixing this upstream, so hopefully the
fix will make 5.11-rc4 (otherwise it should be in -rc5). No need
to file a bug and I suggest just sticking with 5.10 until this
is fixed in the 5.11 rc-s.

Regards,

Hans



Hi Hans,

I did file a bug report against rc2 but I suspect it may be a different 
issue, most of the crashes that appeared in the abrt mechanism were not 
reportable.


FWIW here it is:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1914598

But I think it's a different issue.

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Rawhide hangs booting 5.11.0-rc2

2021-01-09 Thread Ian Laurie
I just updated a VirtualBox Rawhide guest with latest updates which 
included the 5.11.0-rc2 kernel and the system hangs on boot (pic 
attached).  The system was updated a few days ago so was reasonably up 
to date before today.


Booting the previous kernel 5.10.0-rc6 still works OK.

In case something weird happened in the update, I reverted to a backed 
up copy of the vm (also reasonably up to date) and updated kernel* and 
rebooted with the exact same results.


Is anyone else seeing this problem with VirtualBox guests?

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