Re: Can we please stop enforcing Signed-off-by commits?
On 1/17/19 6:59 AM, Randy Barlow wrote: > > The DCO explicitly states that the contribution itself is granted to > the project under the same license that the project uses. I think the Apache 2.0 licence does that too. -- #kenB-|} Ken, Baron Coar RHCA, RHCVA, Sanagendamgagwedweinini Red Hat IT Infrastructure signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs
On 06/01/2018 10:29 AM, David Sommerseth wrote: > > So the menu could look something like > > - > Fedora > Recovery options > |`- Fedora (older kernel, 4.13.0-103) > |`- Fedora (older kernel, 4.14.5-300) > |`- Fedora (older kernel, 4.15.3-304) > \-- System recover mode (expert) > - %s/Fedora/Fedora %version/ and I like it better. However, I think this is trending away from the 'don't show/allow grub menu with single kernel' patch discussion> -- #kenB-|} Ken, Baron Coar RHCA, RHCVA, Sanagendamgagwedweinini Red Hat IT Infrastructure signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/JOAEHJZT5AANVJCHJ7FF6TJB4K4XQP3C/
Re: Hiding the grub menu by default on single OS installs
On 06/01/2018 04:04 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > > For F30, single OS Fedora Workstation install install we get: > > 1) grub menu not shown, 0 second timeout, no way to get to the menu ^ This scares me and I would not like to see it implemented. What is the impetus for this change? What outside requests are satisfied by it? Or is this from internal developer opinions and discussions with no input from end users? (*Not* meant as an insult!) -- #kenB-|} Ken, Baron Coar RHCA, RHCVA, Sanagendamgagwedweinini Red Hat IT Infrastructure ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/PM6LDIVZLCZNRU4YR35STE7GHJMBL6MI/
Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu
On 06/01/2018 05:06 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > It is irony, that people, who are capable to get into the grub menu if > they need, complain about it being hidden. So to say, I am 100% for > hiding the grub menu, speeding up the boot process, and if need it, I'll > find a way to get it. I fail to see any irony here. When I need to get into the grub menu, it's usually an emergency (or at least highly-stressful) situation, with no documentation handy, and flailing about trying to figure out how to make it appear just adds to the stress and the blue tinge of the air in my vicinity. What *exactly* is this trying to solve? IIRC, the patch is to hide the grub menu IFF there's only one kernel because 'it serves no useful function.' A number of people (myself included) have disputed that assertion. If the assertion is invalid, the patch shouldn't be applied. Correct? That seems simple enough. Or maybe I don't understand the process, lacking sufficient Fedora-devel-fu karma. How many non-tech end users install Fedora straight from the distro, as opposed to those who install a frobbed version, with different defaults, from a repackager? _I.e._, repackagers can set grub up however they like. Is Fedora's goal to be end-user friendly, tech friendly, or the all-singing all-dancing Linux distro? -- #kenB-|} Ken, Baron Coar RHCA, RHCVA, Sanagendamgagwedweinini Red Hat IT Infrastructure ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/VZMJFSW4BX63THDFN525SKRKGYHOB6GX/
Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu
On 05/31/2018 07:29 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Well, to unpack a bit: "let's just slap a choice in the installer!" is > almost never the right answer. I consider myself n00b-slapped. My only defence is my ignorance of discussions in this area. Point taken. :-) -- #kenB-|} Ken, Baron Coar RHCA, RHCVA, Sanagendamgagwedweinini Red Hat IT Infrastructure ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/A5E67JFUIYFQYFG37T757B3TLWTOXLRQ/
Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu
On 05/31/2018 06:06 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III > wrote: >>> "CM" == Chris Murphy writes: >> >> Plus, there's an upside: if you're hammering F11 or F8 or F12 or Esc or >> whatever to try and get into the BIOS, and you miss it, then at least >> you stop in grub instead of going straight into the OS. > > Ick. Why 'ick'? If you're playing Rachmaninoff on the keyboard during the boot sequence, I think it's a pretty clear indicator that you want to interrupt it somehow. (Unless you're a cat.) So I'd count any sort of interruption as a win, rather than proceeding to a full boot. >> Anyway, I don't really care what gets chosen here, but I sure would like >> the option to actually configure what keys grub watches instead of just >> having it be 'Esc' and maybe patched to include 'F8'. Grub seems to be >> so flexible so it seems odd that this bit is hardcoded. > > That's a good point. +1 -- #kenB-|} Ken, Baron Coar RHCA, RHCVA, Sanagendamgagwedweinini Red Hat IT Infrastructure ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ZX4E2ACEUGAUKGRXQT6C2S7ZT23SCNOE/
Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu
At 2018-05-31T02:36, Jason L Tibbitts III irritated the Akashic Field to say: > > If a user is technical, and our documentation is reasonably good, > then they should be able to achieve the level of verbosity they want. When you need to get into single-user mode, the documentation is probably not to hand. :-) How about making this a yes/no installation option? With a default of not changing the current behaviour? "Do you want to always see the Grub menu, even when you only have a single kernel installed on your bloody machine? Choosing 'Y' will retain the behaviour exhibited by prior versions of Fedora. [Yn]" :-) -- #kenB-|} Ken, Baron Coar RHCA, RHCVA, Sanagendamgagwedweinini Red Hat IT Infrastructure ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/ADZQ2DLLBSNBA43KAHOV35WERDAFO3IL/
