Election Results: Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo
Greetings, all: The elections for the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) and the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) have concluded, and the results are shown below. In addition to the election results, there were also 2 candidates for 2 open seats on the Fedora Project Board. As the candidates were unopposed, voting was not held. Therefore, Neville A. Cross (FAS: yn1v) and Haïkel Guémar (FAS: number80) are both elected to the Fedora Board for a full two-release term. ** FESCo is electing 4 seats this cycle. A total of 265 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 1590 votes (265 * 6). The result of the FESCo election is as follows: # votes | name - --+-- 952 | Dennis Gilmore (FAS: ausil) 947 | Toshio Kuratomi (FAS: abadger1999) 905 | Stephen Gallagher (FAS: sgallagh) 849 | Miloslav Trmač (FAS: mitr) --- 768 | Marcela Mašláňová (FAS: mmaslano) 649 | Kyle McMartin (FAS: kyle) Therefore, Dennis Gilmore, Toshio Kuratomi, Stephen Gallagher, and Miloslav Trmač are each elected to FESCo for a full two-release term. ** FAmSCo is electing 3 seats this cycle. A total of 173 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 692 votes (173 * 4). The result of the FAmSCo election is as follows: # votes | name - --+-- 435 | Neville A. Cross (FAS: yn1v) 396 | Jon Disnard (FAS: masta) 379 | Truong Anh Tuan (FAS: tuanta) --- 291 | Marcel Ribeiro Dantas (FAS: mribeirodantas) Therefore, Neville Cross, Jon Disnard, and Truong Anh Tuan are each elected to FAmSCo for a full two-release term. Congratulations to all. -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Announcing the release of Fedora 20.
Greetings! We can say with great certainty the Fedora Project is pleased to announce the release of Fedora 20 ("Heisenbug"), which coincides with the 10th anniversary of the creation of the Fedora Project. Download this leading-edge, free and open source operating system now: http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora Detailed information about this release can be seen in the release notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Release_Notes/index.html *** Dedicated to Seth Vidal *** On July 8, the Fedora Project lost Seth Vidal, a dedicated, tireless, and brilliant contributor. Seth was a lead developer of Yum and the Fedora update repository system. He worked to ensure that the technical and community infrastructure of Fedora worked well and consistently for users and contributors around the world. Seth touched the lives of hundreds of Fedora contributors directly and millions of others indirectly by improving the experience of using and updating Fedora. The Fedora Project dedicates the Fedora 20 release to Seth and asks that you join us in remembering his generous spirit and incredible work that helped make Fedora what it is today. We miss you, Seth. *** 10 Years of Fedora *** The Fedora 20 release coincides with Fedora's tenth anniversary. The first Fedora release (then called Fedora Core 1) came out on November 6, 2003. The Fedora Project community has grown into an active and vibrant one that produces a new version of this leading-edge, free and open source operating system around every six months. *** Desktop Environments and Spins *** The Fedora Project strives to provide the best desktop experiences possible for users, from desktop environment to application selection. We also produce nearly a dozen spins tailor-made for desktop users, hardware design, gaming, musicians, artists, and early classroom environments. Spins are available for download here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Spins == GNOME 3.10 == Fedora 20 comes with GNOME 3.10, which has several new applications and features that will please GNOME-lovers. This release includes a new music application (gnome-music), a new maps application (gnome-maps), a revamp for the system status menu, and Zimbra support in Evolution. == KDE Plasma Workspaces 4.11 == The Fedora KDE SIG has rebased to KDE 4.11 for Fedora 20. This release includes faster Nepomuk indexing, improvements to Kontact, KScreen integration in KWin, Metalink/HTTP support for KGet, and much more. == Spins == Spins are alternate versions of Fedora. In addition to various desktop environments for Fedora, spins are also available as tailored environments for various types of users via hand-picked application sets or customizations. See all of the Fedora 20 Release Spins here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Spins *** ARM as a Primary Architecture *** While Fedora has supported a number of hardware architectures over the years, x86/x86_64 has been the default for the majority of Fedora users and for the Linux community in general. ARM, however, has been making massive strides. It already dominates the mobile market, is becoming a go-to platform for hobbyists and makers, and is showing enormous promise for the server market as well. In keeping with Fedora's commitment to innovation, the Fedora community has been pushing to make ARM a primary architecture to satisfy the needs of users and developers targeting the ARM platform. *** Cloud and Virtualization Improvements *** The Fedora 20 release continues the Fedora tradition of adopting and integrating leading edge technologies used in cloud computing. This release includes features that will make working with virtualization and cloud computing much easier. == First-Class Cloud Images == The Fedora Cloud SIG has been working hard to provide images that are well-suited for running as guests in public and private clouds like Amazon Web Services (AWS) and OpenStack. If you're using public or private cloud, you should grab one of the downloadable Cloud Images or find a supported EC2 image, here: http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#clouds == VM Snapshot UI with virt-manager == Taking VM snapshots is now much easier. Though qemu and libvirt have all the major pieces in place for performing safe VM snapshots/checkpoints, there isn't any simple, discoverable UI. This feature will track adding that UI to virt-manager and any other virt stack bits that need to be fixed/improved, including adding functionality to libvirt to support deleting and rebasing to external snapshots. == ARM on x86 with libvirt/virt-manager == You can now run ARM VMs on x86 hosts using standard libvirt tools: libvirt virsh, virt-manager and virt-install. *** Big Data *** The Fedora 20 release includes all the packages you need to run Apache Hadoop 2.2.0. Hadoop is a widely used, increasingly complete big data platform with a strong, growing com
Announcing the release of Fedora 19!
project.org Nightly composes of alternate Spins are available here: http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes *** Downloads, upgrades, documentation, and common bugs *** Start by downloading Fedora 19: http://get.fedoraproject.org/ If you are upgrading from a previous release of Fedora, refer to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading Fedora now includes FedUp in order to enable an easy upgrade to Fedora 19. *** Documentation *** Read the full release notes for Fedora 19, guides for several languages, and learn about known bugs and how to report new ones: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ Because of the number of changes to the installer, we particularly suggest taking a peek at the Installation Guide: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/19/html/Installation_Guide/index.html Fedora 19 common bugs are documented at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F19_bugs This page includes information on several known bugs in the installer, so we recommend reading it before installing Fedora 19. *** Contributing *** We can't build Fedora inside a box. We need your help! Bug reports are especially helpful--if you encounter any issues, please report them! Fedora is a fantastic, friendly community, and we have many ways in which you can contribute, including documentation, marketing, design, QA, and development. To learn how to help us, visit: http://join.fedoraproject.org/ *** Fedora 20 *** Fedora 20 has been in active development for several months already. We plan to release it in November 2013, though the final schedule is part of the planning process and subject to change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Schedule *** Contact information *** If you are a journalist or reporter, you can find additional information here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Press Enjoy! -Robyn Bergeron ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Election Season Begins: Fedora Board, FESCo, FAmSCo, and Fedora 20 naming election process
It is time again to begin Fedora's election season. This announcement contains information regarding the Fedora 20 Naming Election, as well as the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo), and Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) elections. ** Fedora 20 Naming Election ** The suggestion period for names for Fedora 20 is now open (May 15, 2013), and will end promptly at the end of the day on May 22, 2013 (23:59:59 UTC). So run - don't "paws" - and get your suggestion in for the next Fedora release name. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_20 Fine Print: You *must* follow the instructions and guidelines at the page listed above if you want your name to be considered. For instance, there must be an "is-a" link between the name "Schrödinger's Cat" (from Fedora 19) and the name you suggest. That link must be different than previous links for Fedora release names. Names of living people and well-known trademarks will likely be rejected as well. You can also find full schedule details for the release naming process on the above page. For those of you interested in reviewing the history of Fedora release names, there exists an appropriately named wiki page for doing so: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Fedora_release_names ** Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo Elections ** The nomination period for elections for the Fedora Board, FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassador Steering Committee), and FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) is now open, and will conclude at the end of day, May 25, 2013 (23:59:59 UTC). This election cycle will fill the following seats for a one-year period: * Fedora Board: 3 elected seats (2 additional seats will be appointed according to schedule) * FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee): 5 elected seats * FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee): 4 elected seats Full information about the committee elections, including the elections schedule, and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections Additionally, the elections questionnaire is NOW OPEN for adding questions which will be posed to candidates for the listed groups. Following the closing of the questionnaire, candidates will be asked to answer questions relevant to the position for which they are seeking election. Questions may be added until May 23, 2013 (you guessed it - 23:59:59 UTC). Questions should be added here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/Questionnaire Further information regarding each body's election follows below. As always, I encourage everyone to consider serving in an elected seat, or to encourage others that they feel would represent Fedora well to run for election. Finally: I'd like to send a special thank-you to Ankur Sinha for once again helping to coordinate elections and the elections schedule. Your work here is greatly appreciated! == Fedora Board == This election cycle will fill three elected seats for the Board (seats E3, E4, and E5). Two appointed seats (A3 and A4) will also be filled this cycle. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board_nominations https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/History == FESCo == This cycle will see candidates elected to five open seats in the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. For information on the nominations and elections, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations == FAmSCo == This election cycle will see candidates elected to fill four open seats on the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. For more information, refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_elections https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_nominations Cheers, -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 18.
ve feedback on software updates, write and edit documentation, design and do artwork, help with all sorts of promotional activities, and package free software for use by millions of Fedora users worldwide. To get started, visit http://join.fedoraproject.org today! == Fedora 19 == Even as we continue to provide updates with enhancements and bug fixes to improve the Fedora number experience, our next release, Fedora 19, is already being developed in parallel and has been open for active development for several months already. We have an early plan for release at the end of May 2013, and the final schedule for F19 is going to be based on the results of the planning process: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/Schedule == Feature Deprecation == Fedora has always been full of great features, but sometimes we need to cull the herd. Saying good-bye is always hard, but here are the ones we had to put out to pasture this time around. * /etc/sysconfig Deprecations: Several system configurations have moved out of /etc/sysconfig. The goal of these changes is to reduce - as described in http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-new-configuration-files.html - the unnecessary differences between Linux distributions and share a standard location for common settings. For a full list of changes read the release notes. http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/Release_Notes/index.html == Contact information == If you are a journalist or reporter, you can find additional information here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Press Enjoy! -Robyn Bergeron ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Election Results for FAmSCo, FESCo, and Fedora Board seats
Greetings! The elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo), and Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) have concluded, and the results are IN! and can be seen below. * * * The Fedora Board is electing 2 seats this cycle. A total of 201 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 1,005 votes (201 * 5). The results for the Fedora Board elections are as follows: name| # votes +- Jaroslav Reznik (FAS: jreznik, IRC: jreznik)| 855 Michael Scherer (FAS: misc , IRC: misc) | 437 +- Buddhika Kurera (FAS: bckurera, IRC: bckurera) | 299 John Dulaney (FAS: jdulaney, IRC: j_dulaney ) | 280 Dan Mashal (FAS: vicodan, IRC: dan408 ) | 266 Therefore, Jaroslav Reznik and Michael Scherer are each elected to the Fedora Board for a full two-release term. * * * FESCo is electing 4 seats this cycle. A total of 206 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 1,648 votes (206 * 8). The results for the FESCo elections are as follows: name| # votes +- Toshio Kuratomi (FAS: toshio, IRC: abadger1999) |808 Miloslav Trmac (FAS: mitr, IRC: mitr) |804 Marcela Mašláňová (FAS: mmaslano, IRC: mmaslano)|784 Stephen Gallagher (FAS: sgallagh, IRC: sgallagh)|713 +- Matthew Garrett (FAS: mjg59, IRC: mjg59)|710 Jon Ciesla (FAS: limb, IRC: limburgher) |612 Martin Sivák (FAS: msivak, IRC: msivak) |511 Therefore, Toshio Kuratomi, Miloslav Trmac, Marcela Mašláňová, and Stephen Gallagher are each elected to FESCo for a full two-release term. * * * FAmSCo is electing 3 seats this cycle. A total of 102 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 408 votes (102 * 4). The results of the FAmSCo election are as follows: name| # votes +- Alejandro Perez (FAS: aeperezt, IRC: aeperezt) | 244 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera (FAS: bckurera, IRC: bckurera) | 216 Truong Anh Tuan (FAS: tuanta, IRC: tuanta) | 198 +- Elad Alfassa (FAS: elad, IRC: elad661) | 181 Therefore, Alejandro Perez, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera, and Truong Anh Tuan are each elected to FAmSCo for a full two-release term. * * * Congratulations to all of the winning candidates, and thank you to all of those who participated in this election, by voting, running for an elected position, or helping with various parts of the election process. And a special shout-out of thanks goes out to Ankur Sinha for his work in coordinating all of the election details this cycle. Cheers, -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 19 release name voting
Voting for the release name of Fedora 19 has begun. The pool of names submitted by the community has been narrowed down to 8 possible names, one of which will become the release name for the successor to Fedora 18 ("Spherical Cow"). This vote began on November 9th, 2012, at 00:00 UTC, and will end at 23:59:59 on November 15th, 2012. * We are using the Range Voting method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_voting). * If this is your first time using the voting system, you may want to read the Fedora Elections Guide, located here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Contributor_Documentation/1/html/Fedora_Elections_Guide/index.html * In order to vote, you must have a valid Fedora Project Contributor Agreement (FPCA) on file and be a member of at least one non-CLA group. Ballots may be cast on the Fedora Elections System here, now! https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef19 Cheers, Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Board, FAmSCo, FESCo Election Season, and Fedora Board Appointment.
The nomination period for FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassador Steering Committee), FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee), and the Fedora Board is now open, and will close on November 13, 2012, at 23:59:59 UTC. This election cycle will fill the following seats for a one-year period: * Fedora Board: 2 elected seats, as well as 2 appointed seats * FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee): 4 elected seats * FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee): 3 elected seats Full information about the elections, including the elections schedule, and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections Running concurrently with the nomination period (and, hence, closing at the end of the nomination period), the elections questionnaire is also open for adding questions which will be posed to candidates. Following the closing of the questionnaire, candidates will be asked to answer questions relevant to the position for which they are seeking election. Questions may be added here, and, again, will also close on November 13, 2012: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F19_elections_questionnaire As noted above, there are 2 seats on the Fedora Board that will be appointed in this cycle, and I'm pleased as can be to announce that Major Hayden as the first of these appointments. I'm sure that many of you know Major from IRC (where you may know of him as rackerhacker), or perhaps from his blog posts about security or OpenStack, or from the Fedora Cloud SIG. He's enthusiastic, a fountain of knowledge, passionate about Fedora, and an all-around awesome guy, and I'm certain that he'll be able to bring some unique perspectives to the Board. Welcome, Major! Major will be taking the seat previously occupied by Toshio Kuratomi (aka: abadger1999). Toshio has served two years in his appointed seat on the Fedora Board, and I am incredibly grateful to him for his efforts, dedication, and commitment to the Board, and Fedora in general. You are a fantastic role model and contributor - thank you, Toshio! :) Further details regarding each body's election follows below. I encourage everyone to consider running for an elected seat if they have the interest and desire to do so, and to encourage others that they feel would be ideal representatives for particular Fedora bodies. Cheers! -Robyn == Fedora Board == This election cycle will fill two elected seats for the Board (seats E1 and E2). Two appointed seats (A1 and A2) will also be filled this cycle, the first of which is the aforementioned appointment of Major Hayden; the remaining seat will be appointed following the election. For more information on nominations, and the process refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board_nominations https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/History == FESCo == This cycle will see candidates elected to four open seats in the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. For information on the nominations and elections: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations == FAmSCo == This election cycle will see candidates elected to fill three open seats on the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee. For more information, refer to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_elections https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_nominations ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Deploying fedora infrastructure (koji) across clouds
- Original Message - > From: "Mo Morsi" > To: "aeolus-devel" , "Fedora Cloud SIG" > , > "Development discussions related to Fedora" > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:22:47 AM > Subject: Deploying fedora infrastructure (koji) across clouds > > // Deploying fedora infrastructure (koji) across clouds > // As promised, steps to deploy kojihub to an openstack instance > communicating with builders on ec2 > // Any provider supported by deltacloud will work > //(lots of em: http://deltacloud.apache.org/drivers.html) > > // A short video of these steps in action can be seen here: > // http://youtu.be/qF2ctg7ItNc > > // install deltacloud & drivers > $ sudo yum install wget deltacloud-core deltacloud-core-openstack > deltacloud-core-ec2 > > // start it > $ deltacloudd -i mock > > // small wrapper script around deltacloud: > $ wget https://raw.github.com/movitto/mycloud/master/mycloud.rb > $ chmod +x mycloud.rb > > // template describing kojihub cloud deployment > $ wget > https://raw.github.com/aeolus-incubator/templates/master/fedora_infra/koji/fedora-17/koji_f17.xml > > // template describing kojibuild cloud deployment > $ wget > https://raw.github.com/aeolus-incubator/templates/master/fedora_infra/koji/fedora-17/koji_builder_f17.xml > > // edit kojihub deployment to contain openstack credentials > $ vim koji_f17.xml > > // startup an instance on openstack w/ kojihub setup togo > $ ./mycloud.rb koji_f17.xml > > // grab public address from output, grab kojibuild ssl credentials > from > new instance > > $ scp -i ~/os.key ec2-user@kojihub:/etc/pki/koji/kojiadmin.pem . > $ scp -i ~/os.key ec2-user@kojihub:/etc/pki/koji/koji_ca_cert.crt . > > // edit kojibuild deployment to deploy to ec2 w/ correct koji > credentials & hub address > $ vim koji_builder_f17.xml > > // startup an instance on ec2 w/ kojibuild communicating w/ the hub > $ ./mycloud.rb koji_builder_f17.xml > > // open up a webbrowser, navigating to http://kojihub/koji to use > your > Koji instance! A few questions: #1: How does this take things like ARM or other archs into the picture - ie: I am guessing we can't really build ARM on ec2? :) #2: Could there be a way to take a (working) nightly build, build one's package against that nightly in a personal build of some sort, and somehow have a verification process that it built in that "personal build" before it goes into rawhide, etc? (or even... unit tests, etc.)? I'm mostly thinking about things like "how to not have perpetually broken rawhide" (avoid checking in things that will likely break the build in the first place). Re: the endless anaconda-killing-f18 thread: I know there's been some discussion about whether or not the devel process really accommodates what needs to happen with something like a full-blown anaconda re-write - and while I know that "THE CLOUD" is not the entire solution to that (there are obviously, as others have graciously pointed out, many other feature/fesco/planning/etc processes intertwined here that also need love) - it seems like having these capabilities might fit in to a solution, or at least, something on the road to a better devel/build process. There are plenty of projects doing CI/CD - and having cloud infra makes this significantly easier to enable - though obviously not a lot of cases of people doing an OS. -robyn > > -Mo > ___ > cloud mailing list > cl...@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud > -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Don't have a cow, man: Fedora 19 naming suggestions are now open. Submit your idea!
Greetings and salutations! It is time once again to choose the name for the next release of Fedora. Suggestions for names will be accepted beginning RIGHT THIS SECOND (October 9, 2012), and ending promptly at the end of the day on October 16, 2012 (23:59:59 UTC). So mooove on over, and help to pick out an udderly fabulous name for the next release. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_19 The awesome fine print: You *must* follow the instructions and guidelines at the page listed above if you want your name to be considered. For instance, there must be an "is-a" link between the name "Spherical Cow" (from Fedora 18) and the name you suggest. That link must be different than previous links for Fedora release names. Names of living people and well-known trademarks will likely be rejected as well. (Apologies to those wishing to make links between spherical cows having spots, and Tom Callaway.) You can also find full schedule details for the release naming process on the above page. For those of you interested in reviewing the history of Fedora release names, there is an appropriately named wiki page for doing so: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Fedora_release_names I fully expect that, as always, we will have a delightful (and occasionally wacky) assortment of names to choose from - I look forward to seeing your suggestions! -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
FUDCon Paris Updates: Subsidy requests opening, hotel reminders
Greetings! (...or perhaps I should say bonjour!) I'd like to share a few reminders and announcements regarding the upcoming FUDCon in Paris, France, on October 13-15, 2012. If you are planning to attend FUDCon and need a travel subsidy to do so, the ticketing system is now open for those requests. Requests will be accepted through August 15, 2012. Please note that funding requests without a ticket will not be considered. Preference will be given to attendees from the EMEA region who are actively contributing to Fedora, and have detailed their participation plans for FUDCon in their request. To place a subsidy request, please follow these steps: 1: Pre-register at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Paris_2012#Pre-registration - and put an X in the $$$ column 2: Read about the funding request process and place a funding request ticket in the FUDCon-planning ticket tracker here: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/wiki/FundingRequest Additionally, a few notes regarding the hotel in Paris: There are other events in Paris during this time period; most notably, our first day of FUDCon will be taking place at the Open World Forum conference, on the day in which the public is encouraged to participate in and learn about open source projects. OWF had nearly 2000 attendees last year. Accordingly, rooms might be in short supply as we approach FUDCon; please, book your hotel as soon as possible, not only for affordability purposes, but also so that you have a bed to sleep in. :) We currently have a rate of EUR81 per night at the ibis Paris La Vilette Cite des Sciencesfor the nights of the 12th, 13th, and 14th of October. However, this rate will expire at the end of August, and any remaining rooms in our block will expire. For instructions on booking your hotel, please read the Lodging/Hotel section of the FUDCon: Paris wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Paris_2012#Lodging_.2F_Hotel Cheers, -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Board appointment
I am very delighted to announce that John Rose (aka inode0) will be joining the Fedora Board in the final appointed slot for this cycle (seat A4). Many of you know John from his work in the Ambassadors team and his excellent election wrangling for many election cycles, as well as being a familiar face in FUDCon planning, and his care for transparency in finances (and transparency in general!). I believe he'll be a fine addition to the Board, and I look forward to his contributions and participation. As John comes on, I'd also like to thank Guillermo Gomez for his work done over the past year as the Board member who has been in this seat. You will be missed! :) A friendly reminder, also, that the Board is always happy to have community input; please feel welcome to join the Board's mailing list at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/Advisory-board to ask questions or participate in discussion. Welcome, John! :) -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Board runoff election results
Hello! The runoff election for the remaining Fedora Board seat has concluded. There was one remaining seat available. A total of 182 votes were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 364 votes (182 * 2). The results are shown below. # votes | name --- 214 | Nick Bebout (FAS: nb, IRC: nb) 188 | Robert 'Bob' Jensen (FAS: bjensen, IRC: EvilBob) Therefore, Nick Bebout will take the remaining Board seat, replacing Jon Stanley. (Many thanks to Jon for his dedication and time spent with the Board!) And with that - I thank everyone for their participation in this interesting runoff election. News about the remaining appointed Board seat will be forthcoming in the next few days. - Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Runoff election for Board seat has begun.
Greetings. As previously announced[1], the recent Board election resulted in a two-way tie for the third elected seat, between Nick Bebout and Robert 'Bob' Jensen. The runoff election for this remaining seat has started. Voting began today, Tuesday, June 12, at 00:00:00 UTC, and will end Wednesday, June 20, at 00:00:00 UTC. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS ENDING TIME COULD VERY WELL ACTUALLY OCCUR ON TUESDAY IN YOUR TIME ZONE. Please refer to a UTC time zone converter if you are unsure of your time zone's relation to UTC, such as: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Ballots may be cast on the Fedora Elections System at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting For more general information about the election, including eligibility information, please refer to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections As noted in previous announcements for elections, information about the candidates may be seen here: Fedora Board: * Nominations and questionnaire answers: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections/Nominations#Board_2012_F18_Elections_Run-off * Town Hall Logs: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#Fedora_Project_Board Please remember to cast your vote! Cheers, -Robyn [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2012-June/003084.html ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Election Results for Fedora Board, FAmSCo, and FESCo seats
Greetings, patient friends: The elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo), and Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) have concluded, and the results are shown below. Apparently, we like to keep things interesting around here; the improbable situation of having a tie for a seat has occurred. Read on for details! * * * FESCo is electing 5 seats this cycle. A total of 236 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 1,888 votes (236 * 8). The results for the FESCo elections are as follows: # votes | name 1319 | Kevin Fenzi (FAS: kevin, IRC: nirik) 1208 | Bill Nottingham (FAS: notting, IRC: notting) 1028 | Tomáš Mráz (FAS: tmraz, IRC: t8m) 901 | Peter Jones (FAS: pjones, IRC: pjones) 890 | Josh Boyer (FAS: jwboyer, IRC: jwb) 844 | Stephen Gallagher (FAS: sgallagh, IRC: sgallagh) 474 | John Dulaney (FAS:jdulaney, IRC: j_dulaney) 350 | Keiran Smith (FAS:affix, IRC:affix) Therefore, Kevin Fenzi, Bill Nottingham, Tomáš Mráz, Peter Jones, and Josh Boyer are each elected to FESCo for a full two-release term. * * * FAmSCo is electing 7 seats this cycle. As this is a special transitional election for FAmSCo, all seven seats are open for election. The four candidates receiving the most votes will be seated for two release cycles and the next three candidates by vote count will be seated for one release cycle. As those terms expire, future elections will be held each release to fill the open seats for two release terms. A total of 207 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 1,863 votes (207 * 9). # votes | name 1152 | Christoph Wickert (FAS: cwickert, IRC: cwickert) 887 | Jiri Eischmann (FAS: eischmann, IRC: sesivany) 796 | Clint Savage (FAS: herlo, IRC: herlo) 576 | Nick Bebout (FAS: nb, IRC: nb) 553 | Alejandro Perez (FAS: aeperezt, IRC: aeperezt) 543 | Daniel Bruno (FAS: dbruno, IRC: danielbruno) 512 | Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera (FAS: bckurera, IRC: bckurera) 470 | Truong Anh Tuan (FAS: tuanta, IRC: tuanta) 340 | Arif Tri Waluyo (FAS: arifiauo, IRC: arifiauo) Therefore, Christoph Wickert, Jiri Eischmann, Clint Savage, and Nick Bebout are each elected to FAmSCo for a two-release term; Alejandro Perez, Daniel Bruno, and Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera are each elected to FAmSCo for a one-release term. * * * The Fedora Board is electing 3 seats this cycle. Atotal of 199 ballots were cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 796 votes (199 * 4). # votes | name 534 | Peter Robinson (FAS: pbrobinson, IRC: pbrobinson) 505 | Eric Christensen (FAS: sparks, IRC: sparks) 358 | Nick Bebout (FAS: nb, IRC: nb) 358 | Robert 'Bob' Jensen (FAS:bjensen, IRC: EvilBob) Therefore: Peter Robinson and Eric Christensen are elected to the Board for a full two-release term. Additionally: Nick Bebout and Robert 'Bob' Jensen have tied for the remaining seat; a runoff election will be held to determine the remaining seat, beginning Tuesday, June 12, and ending Tuesday, June 19. * * * Congratulations to the winning candidates, and a hearty thank-you to all nominees for running and participating in this elections cycle. -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: glusterfs rename
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY > wrote: >> On 05/30/2012 02:23 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> >>> Yes, for the Fedora side of things I think gluster 3.2 is the best >>> strategy with a fedorapeople repo of 3.3 if it's considered worthwhile >>> for those that wish to play. For gluster 3.3 I suggest a feature page >>> for F-18 / rawhide. Is it feasible for the missing hekafs features to >>> be merged into the 3.3 release train by October when F-18 is due to be >>> released? >> >> >> I was under the impression that glusterfs would be automatically carried >> forward from f17 into f18, as it apparently was from f16 into f17. > > It will be carried forward but a major change of features and > enhancements is worth doing a feature page to advertise the feature > improvements (see the gnome feature page as an example[1] ), it's > something for marketing to use and allows you to also detail things > like the removal or merge of HekaFS. > >> F18 builds (of 3.2.6) are already available in koji. Until now I haven't >> heard that a feature page is needed for 3.2.x (or 3.3.x) to be included in >> f18. (But how to deprecate HekaFS on f18 once the glusterfs-3.3.0 build is >> available.) > > See above for feature page details. For deprecate HekaFS you add the > the appropriate obsoletes/provides as necessary to the gluster package > and follow the process for removing/obsoleteing a package in the wiki. > >> The features that are in HekaFS (in f16 and f17) will get merged into >> glusterfs-3.3.1+, as I indicated previously, but I won't promise how many of >> them will be there when f18 ships. We certainly hope that all of them will >> be, but we aren't making any promises. > > So that's something that can be documented in a feature page in the > wiki and updated as things progress through both the gluster devel > process and the fedora release process :) Okay, as a slightly more detailed version: You should follow the full feature process, to be put in the FeatureList for F18. If you want to see what that process looks like, you probably want to look at this diagram: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Process And make your feature page according to the template noted on that wiki page, and submit it to the feature wrangler (via a wiki category change) so that they can have it approved by fesco, at which point it can be added to the actual feature list :) -robyn > > Peter > > [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Gnome3.4 > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Reminder: Voting has begun in Fedora Board, FAmSCo, and FESCo elections, ends June 7th
Greetings! A friendly reminder that the elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo), and the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) began on June 1st, 2012, at 00:00:01 UTC, and will end Thursday, June 7th, 2012 at 23:59:59 UTC. Please refer to a UTC time zone converter if you are unsure if your time zone's relation to UTC, such as: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Ballots may be cast on the Fedora Elections System at: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting If this is the first time you've used the voting system, please refer to the Fedora Elections Guide, currently located at: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Contributor_Documentation/1/html/Fedora_Elections_Guide/index.html I encourage everyone to read about the candidates for each body; in addition to their nominations, candidates were also asked to participate in questionnaires and IRC town halls, and links for that information is shown below for each group of nominees. Fedora Board: * Nominations and questionnaire answers: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections/Nominations * Town Hall Logs: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#Fedora_Project_Board Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo): * Nominations and questionnaire answers: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations * Town Hall Logs: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#FESCo_.28Engineering.29 Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo): * Nominations and questionnaire answers: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2012_F18_nominations * Town Hall Logs: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#FAmSCo_.28Ambassadors.29 * Please note that voting for FAmSCo is no longer restricted to Ambassadors only; eligible voters need only be part of the cla_done and any other non-cla group in the Fedora Account System. For more general information about the election, including eligibility information, please refer to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections Please remember to cast your vote! Cheers, -Robyn "I just wrote an email without any hot dog puns" Bergeron ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Announcing Fedora 17. Relish it.
"At the heat of a thousand hot dog cookers, the seventeenth release of Fedora shall be forged by contributors the world over, and it will be known as: Beefy Miracle. The mustard shall indicate progress. For six months, participants in the Fedora Project shall freely contribute to the release of the distribution, in the spirit of the Four Foundations -- Freedom, Friends, Features, and First -- and moreover, they shall relish in Fun, as a community without Fun would be like a day without sunshine. Upon release, a free and open source operating system shall be available to all, catering to a variety of tastes -- those of end-users, systems administrators, and developers, with a common thread that binds them all: No, not their love for hot dogs, silly, as we certainly know that Fedora shall be created and used by those whose dietary preference could be either Beefy or Leafy. Freedom, my friends, Freedom is the Great Condiment, which shall enable all users of the Beefy Miracle to Create, Share, and Do." -- The Book of Sauerkraut, Chapter 12, Verse 529 The Beefy Miracle hath arrived. Behold, for it is available to download now: http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora And lo, detailed information about this release can be seen in the release notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/17/html/Release_Notes/ == Condiments == Frankly, we believe this is the beefiest release ever -- chock full of condiments, more commonly known as Features, to customize your experience to your tastes. We take pride in our toppings, and in our fine ingredients; Fedora 17 includes both over- and under-the-bun improvements that show off the power and flexibility of the advancing state of free (range) software. On the desktop: GNOME 3.4 introduces many user experience improvements, including new search capabilities in the activities overview, improved themes, and enhancements to the Documents and Contacts applications. A new application, GNOME-boxes, provides easy access to virtual machines. Additionally, GIMP 2.8, the newest version of the GNU Image Manipulation Program, brings new improvements, such as single-window mode, layer groups, and on-canvas editing. For developers: You never sausage a great array of development tools! Fedora 17 includes a pre-release of Juno, the release of the Eclipse SDK expected in June 2012. Java 7 (and OpenJDK 7) is the default Java runtime and Java build toolset, and GCC 4.7.x is now the primary compiler in Fedora. Other language refreshes include shipping Ruby 1.9.3, the latest stable version of the Ruby language; PHP 5.4, the latest PHP stack; an update of Erlang to the R15 release; and the D language has been updated to the 2.058 release. Under the hood, and in the cloud: Serving up hot dogs all day long? Increase your reliability and versatility with the new enhancements to the clustering stack in Fedora 17. Load balancing and high availability improvements have been made, allowing systems administrators to deploy Fedora in environments requiring greater availability and clustered file systems. JBoss Application Server (AS) 7 has also been added to Fedora 17; this fast, lightweight, and modular application server allows you to run full Java EE applications. oVirt, a server virtualization management system with advanced capabilities for hosts and guests, is also included. The automatic multi-seat feature enables multiple, concurrent end-users to utilize a desktop from a single machine, which any systems administrator can relish. And we couldn't possibly write this without talking about our foray into Hot Dogs as a Service (HDaaS)... oh, just kidding, we just had to make a cloudy joke. In all seriousness, though, OpenStack, a collection of services that can be used to set up and run cloud compute and storage infrastructure, has been updated to the latest release, 2012.1 (Essex), in Fedora 17. Ketchup with the full list of features for Fedora 17 here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/FeatureList === Download and Upgrade === Fedora 17: It's bun-believable. Get it now: http://get.fedoraproject.org If you are upgrading from a previous release of Fedora, refer to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading Fedora 17 full release notes and guides for several languages are available at: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ Fedora 17 common bugs are documented at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F17_bugs === Fedora Spins === Fedora spins are alternate version of Fedora, tailored for various types of users via hand-picked application set or customizations. They can be found at: http://spins.fedoraproject.org == Contributing == There are many ways to contribute beyond bug reporting. You can help translate software and content, test and give feedback on software updates, write and edit documentation, design and do artwork, help with all sorts of promotional activities, and package free software for use
Fedora 17 Final is declared GOLD!
At the Fedora 17 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the F17 Final Release (RC4) was declared GOLD and ready for GA on May 29, 2012. Thanks to everyone who came today, and to everyone who helped get the Beefy Miracle ready for public devouring. :) Links to meeting minutes and logs follow below. Cheers, -Robyn Meeting Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-24/fedora_17_final_go_nogo_meeting_round_2.2012-05-24-17.01.html Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-24/fedora_17_final_go_nogo_meeting_round_2.2012-05-24-17.01.log.html == #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora 17 Final Go NoGo Meeting Round 2 == Meeting started by rbergeron at 17:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-24/fedora_17_final_go_nogo_meeting_round_2.2012-05-24-17.01.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Why are we here (rbergero, 17:05:46) * The purpose of this meeting is to determine the "shippiness" of the final release of F17 (RC4, to be specific). All blocker bugs must be resolved, the test matrices need to be completed, we need to meet final release criteria, QA needs to be on board. :) (rbergero, 17:06:54) * Blocker Bugs (rbergero, 17:07:23) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:08:21) * (824191) nfsiso install hangs during reboot (tflink, 17:09:32) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824191 (tflink, 17:09:32) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:09:32) * AGREED: - 824191 - RejectedBlocker - While this is a bug, it doesn't directly violate any of the Fedora 17 release criteria (the install completes, the installed system works). Given that it should only affect a minority of users and could be fixed with an updates.img - it doesn't need to block release. (tflink, 17:18:12) * (824641) kernel 3.3 crashes with blk_dump_rq_flags+ when using a file:/// backend instead of phy:// backend (tflink, 17:18:29) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824641 (tflink, 17:18:32) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:18:35) * AGREED: - 824641 - RejectedBlocker - This appears to be a Dom0 issue instead of a DomU issue which does not violate any of the Fedora 17 release criteria. In addition, the use of file:// storage backends is not recommended and phy:// storage backends do not seem affected by this bug (tflink, 17:34:24) * Release Criteria and Test Matrices (rbergero, 17:35:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Final_RC4_Install (tflink, 17:36:14) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Final_RC4_Desktop (tflink, 17:36:28) * 813257 is waived as a blocker as the only options are to wait indefinitely for a fix or drop kdepim entirely; we can't just drop the offending application as it's part of kdepim, which we need (adamw, 17:46:13) * 819275 agreed not to be worthy of blocker consideration as it affects fallback mode only, and fallback mode is niche now (adamw, 18:03:31) * Ship or not to ship, that is the question (rbergero, 18:04:32) * AGREED: We shall ship the Beefy Miracle (aka F17) on Tuesday, May 29 (rbergero, 18:05:56) Meeting ended at 18:07:23 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * adamw (90) * tflink (56) * rbergero (47) * dgilmore (24) * darnok (13) * akshayvyas (7) * nirik (6) * red_alert (5) * zodbot (5) * kparal (3) * mbroyles__ (3) * ADSLLC (1) * rbergeron (1) * satellit_Tris55R (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 17 FINAL Go/No-Go Meeting (#2), Thursday, May 24, @13:00 Eastern
Please join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the shipment readiness of F17 Final. Thursday, May 24, 2012 @ 17:00 UTC (13:00 EDT/10:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime: Keep an eye on the blocker list here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers Let's ship the beefy miracle, folks! :) -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections: Town hall meeting schedule
As you have (hopefully) heard by now, elections for the Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo are quickly approaching. In each election cycle, a series of town hall meetings is held to give community members and opportunity to ask candidates questions - and hear their answers - via IRC. The town hall schedule for the upcoming election is as follows: Fedora Project Board: * Tuesday, May 29, 2012 at 17:00 UTC * Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 20:00 UTC FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee): * Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 17:00 UTC * Thursday, May 31, 2012 at 20:00 UTC FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee): * Sunday, May 27, 2012 at 16:00 UTC * Monday, May 28 at 17:00 UTC Not sure what time that is? Use a handy-dandy time zone calculator to find out when to show up: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html Important information about how you can participate in the town halls via IRC, as well as the details of each town hall meeting, can be seen on the wiki here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#IRC_Town_Halls Additional details about the upcoming elections, including who the candidates are and the schedule for elections, can be seen here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections IRC town halls are a great and interesting way to get to know the candidates for the various bodies. I encourage you to come and participate, and bring your questions! Cheers, -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 GA to slip by one week.
At the Go/No-Go meeting today, it was decided to slip the GA of Fedora 17 by one week[1]. There are currently 4 remaining release blockers[2], necessitating the creation of RC2. Minutes follow below. GA for F17 is now scheduled for 2012-05-29. Adjustments to the schedule[3] and wiki will be completed later today. We will be meeting again next Thursday, 2012-05-24, for another Go/No-Go meeting. Thanks for your patience! -Robyn [1] Minutes:http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-17/f17_final_go_no_go_meeting.2012-05-17-17.03.html Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-17/f17_final_go_no_go_meeting.2012-05-17-17.03.log.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule = #fedora-meeting-1: F17 Final Go No Go Meeting = Meeting started by rbergeron at 17:03:17 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-17/f17_final_go_no_go_meeting.2012-05-17-17.03.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Gathering the Peeps (rbergeron, 17:03:43) * Purpose of this meeting (rbergeron, 17:04:50) * Purpose of this meeting is to see whether or not F17 Final is ready for shipment, according to the release criteria. (rbergeron, 17:05:21) * This is determined in a few ways: (rbergeron, 17:05:37) * No remaining blocker bugs (rbergeron, 17:05:46) * Test matrices are fully completed (rbergeron, 17:06:01) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 17:06:26) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 17:07:01) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_17_Final_RC_Test_Results (rbergeron, 17:08:28) * Blocker Bugs (rbergeron, 17:09:31) * 5 proposed blockers (tflink, 17:09:45) * 2 accepted blockers (tflink, 17:09:45) * (821077) Firstboot window does not fit the screen after install from F17 TC4 Final KDE Live (tflink, 17:10:47) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821077 (tflink, 17:10:50) * Accepted Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:10:53) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=585074 (spot, 17:14:32) * packaging the C code outside of firstboot seems like the best solution for now (tflink, 17:21:19) * ACTION: spot to get patch packaged, get ajax to sanity check patch (rbergeron, 17:23:02) * ACTION: tflink to coordinate with mgracik re: firstboot changes (rbergeron, 17:27:40) * (822123) Graphical grub is unusable slow (tflink, 17:28:11) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822123 (tflink, 17:28:11) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:28:11) * workedaround, just need to wait for RC2 (rbergeron, 17:31:00) * anaconda-17.28-1 should workaround this to the point where it's no longer a blocker (tflink, 17:31:01) * (794927) PackageKit cannot import GPG keys - Fatal error: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._pk_5ftransaction_5ferror.Code14: Invalid input passed to daemon: char '<' in text! (tflink, 17:31:54) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794927 (tflink, 17:31:58) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:32:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998 (nirik, 17:36:26) * AGREED: - 794927 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 17 alpha release criterion "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" (tflink, 17:42:27) * (748320) automatically import default GPG keys (tflink, 17:42:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748320 (tflink, 17:42:37) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:42:39) * AGREED: - 748320 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't directly hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and we've been shipping like this for a while now - rejected as blocker. However, this would improve the user experience and a tested fix would be considered for inclusion past code freeze (tflink, 17:47:12) * (822430) PK is stuck after installing a single update (tflink, 17:47:20) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822430 (tflink, 17:47:20) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:47:20) * no kittens will be harmed during the triage and fix for this bug ... if all goes according to plan (tflink, 18:03:59) * AGREED: - 822430 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't completely hit any of the Fedora 17 release criteria and has a simple workaround - install all of the updates. Thus it can be fixed by an update and does not need to block release. However, it does cause problems with certain update use cases and would be considered for freeze break. Separa
Fedora 17 FINAL Go/No-Go Meeting, Thursday, May 17, @13:00 Eastern
Please join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the shipment readiness of F17 Final. Thursday, May 17, 2012 @ 17:00 UTC (13:00 EDT/10:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting Note that we have historically had Go/No-go on Wednesdays, and Tuesdays for Final; we have been pushing the final call consistently to Thursdays, and thus (by popular demand) we are going to attempt having the meeting on Thursday itself, rather than dragging it out. The release readiness meeting will still follow this meeting, on Thursday. -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Elections: General information, and questionnaire opening.
GREETINGS! It is once again time for election season to begin. As noted in the elections schedule[1], the elections questionnaire is now open to populate with questions for candidates, and will close on May 8th. The elections nomination period will begin AFTER the questionnaire period has closed. You may add your burning questions for candidates to answer here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_elections_questionnaire The following seats are available in this election: * Fedora Project Board: 3 seats * FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee): 5 seats * FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee): 7 seats Please take note of the following changes for this election: * All questions for the questionnaire must be submitted by May 8th, prior to the beginning of nominations. As seen in the schedule above, the nomination period does not start until May 9th. * As noted on announce-list[2], FAmSCo is electing all 7 seats this cycle, with the goal of having staggered elections similar to the Board and FESCo. Additionally, voting eligibility has been widened to allow anyone who has signed the FPCA AND is a member of at least one additional non-FPCA/CLA group. (In other words: No longer just ambassadors, but those part of other teams as well.) Full election information may be seen here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections Participating in these bodies are one of many ways to contribute to Fedora; I encourage you to consider running, or to urge those you believe are excellent candidates to run. Additionally, your contributions are welcomed in helping to keep the elections running smoothly; volunteers are needed to help collect questionnaire answers from candidates, as well as for scheduling and moderating town halls. If you are interested in helping with those efforts, please contact John Rose[3]. And a big thank you! to John for coordinating the elections thus far, your efforts are very much appreciated. -Robyn [1]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#Committee_Elections_Schedule [2]http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2012-April/003063.html [3]http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Inode0 ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 17 Beta is declared GOLD.
At today's F17 Beta Go/No-Go meeting, the Fedora 17 Beta release was declared gold. F17 Beta will be released Tuesday, April 17, 2012. Thanks to everyone involved for pulling this one together and participating in the meetings, things came together well this week. :) For those interested in the details: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_no_go_meeting.2012-04-11-21.00.html Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_no_go_meeting.2012-04-11-21.00.log.html Full minutes follow below. Cheers, -Robyn #fedora-meeting-1: F17 Beta go no go meeting Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:32 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-11/f17_beta_go_no_go_meeting.2012-04-11-21.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * welcome, again (rbergeron, 21:06:00) * need clean bill of health on release blockers, testing done, etc. (rbergeron, 21:06:45) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804216 (tflink, 21:09:00) * AGREED: - 804216 - RejectedBlocker (beta) - This is a little nasty but it can be worked around by installing the langpacks manually post-install or enabling a network repo (tflink, 21:14:21) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811412 (tflink, 21:14:51) * AGREED: - 811412 - RejectedBlocker - Respun lives from RC4.1 will be accepted for beta. Since RC4.1 is not affected by this bug, dropping as a blocker for F17 beta (tflink, 21:20:01) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811438 (tflink, 21:20:13) * AGREED: - 811438 - RejectedBlocker - The oversized KDE spins were a direct consequence of moving to livecd-creator 17.7. Since the lives from RC4.1 are using livecd-creator 17.3, this bug does not apply to beta and thus is not a beta blocker (tflink, 21:23:13) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810451 (tflink, 21:24:00) * this bug has been reported to be fixed, one contrary report seems to be talking about a different bug (tflink, 21:25:12) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test (tflink, 21:30:46) * test matrices (rbergeron, 21:30:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC4_Desktop (tflink, 21:35:24) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC4_Base (tflink, 21:39:35) * go or no go? (rbergeron, 21:41:07) * blockers clear, matrices green (rbergeron, 21:41:36) * AGREED: ship rc4 and 4.1, we are a go for beta on 17th (rbergeron, 21:44:05) * ACTION: rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child is done at dentist (rbergeron, 21:44:29) * ACTION: adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight (rbergeron, 21:46:08) * HOORAY BETA (rbergeron, 21:46:52) Meeting ended at 21:48:46 UTC. Action Items * rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child is done at dentist * adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight Action Items, by person --- * adamw * adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight * rbergeron * rbergeron to ship minutes / shipment notice after her child is done at dentist * tflink * adamw or tflink to update blockers with resolutions tonight * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * tflink (64) * rbergeron (59) * adamw (47) * Viking-Ice (11) * brunowolff (10) * zodbot (7) * dgilmore (6) * spot (5) * nirik (4) * jsmith (4) * nb (3) * jskladan (1) * KookyMan (1) * bodhi_zazen (1) * gnafu (1) * robatino (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 17 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Round 3, Wednesday, April 11, @17:00 Eastern
Please join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important meeting. This will be Round 3 of this meeting for the Beta release of F17. Wednesday, April 11, 2012 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 17 Beta Blocker list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers Ongoing Beta RC test results can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_17_Beta_RC_Test_Results See you there, Wednesday, in #fedora-meeting-1. -Robyn, fingers and toes crossed thoroughly -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.
At the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Beta by an additional week[1]. Minutes follow below. Though the QA team was able to get through all validation testing, it was found that preupgrade was not functioning at an acceptable level, thus becoming an additional blocker which prevents us from shipping RC3, and necessitating the creation of an RC4. As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks, will be pushed out by one week. Beta will now be looking at an expected release of 2012-04-17, and F17 GA is now scheduled for 2012-05-22. This is the second one-week slip of beta. Adjustments to the full F17 schedule have been completed and now reflect the above Beta and GA dates, and high-level milestones have been updated as well on the Schedule wiki page[3]. We will be meeting again next Wednesday for another Go/No-Go meeting (2012-04-11.) All hail our QA pals and the anacondanistas for their dedication (and many, many others as well). -Robyn [1] Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-05/gono-go_continuation_f17_beta_rc3_part_two_or_three.2012-04-05-15.00.html Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-05/gono-go_continuation_f17_beta_rc3_part_two_or_three.2012-04-05-15.00.log.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule Minutes: = #fedora-meeting-1: Go/No Go Continuation, Round Two, RC3, F17 = Meeting started by rbergeron at 15:00:38 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-04-05/gono-go_continuation_f17_beta_rc3_part_two_or_three.2012-04-05-15.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Who's up (rbergeron, 15:01:03) * Test Results (rbergeron, 15:11:31) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Install (rbergeron, 15:11:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Base (rbergeron, 15:12:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Beta_RC3_Desktop (rbergeron, 15:12:22) * AGREED: we are okay with the level of test coverage as of now on RC3 (rbergeron, 15:16:31) * Blockers (rbergeron, 15:16:41) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741594 (adamw, 15:18:19) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741594#c14 (Martix, 15:18:54) * AGREED: 741594 does not hit any of the criteria and the cited scenarios are not significant enough to worry about delaying the beta (adamw, 15:29:18) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810226 (adamw, 15:31:12) * LINK: http://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/9198/ (adamw, 15:40:55) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810161 (adamw, 15:48:57) * AGREED: 810161 is rejected as a blocker because the impact is minor (it's essentially a cosmetic bug, desktop is still usable), also it only hits one specific virt configuration so it can at least be worked around. accepted as NTH and will be commonbugs'ed if we ship with it (adamw, 16:13:56) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810289 (adamw, 16:14:24) * AGREED: #810289 is rejected as a blocker on the basis that we've never actually checked for low space on upgrade (and hence have implictly never considered it a blocking issue). anaconda will just try to upgrade and explode. so this isn't in fact a regression compared to earlier releases, and we don't have a specific requirement for a low space check in criteria or anywhere else. accepted as NTH (adamw, 16:31:38) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810136 (adamw, 16:31:59) * AGREED: 810136 turns out to be a dupe of 810005, moving discussion (adamw, 19:45:37) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=810005 (adamw, 19:45:42) * AGREED: 810005 is accepted as a blocker per criterion "The installer must be able to successfully complete an upgrade installation from a clean, fully updated default installation (from any official install medium) of the previous stable Fedora release, either via preupgrade or by booting to the installer manually. The upgraded system must meet all release criteria". the known workaround has too many limitations to be considered 'good enough' (adamw, 19:53:23) * Go or no-go? (rbergeron, 19:54:12) * we have a blocker. (rbergeron, 19:54:27) * qa votes no-go, as do various others from engineering, fesco, pm (rbergeron, 19:55:18) * AGREED: we are no-go on F17 Beta RC3 sadly (adamw, 19:58:27) * ACTION: rbergeron to update schedule again (rbergeron, 19:58:55) * ACTION: rbergero to send slip mail (rbergeron, 20:00:19) * ACTION: tflink to do blocker meeting mail following slip notice (rbergeron, 20:00:38) * ACTIO
Fedora 17 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Wednesday, April 4, @17:00 Eastern
Please join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important meeting. This will be Round 2 of this meeting for the Beta release of F17. Wednesday, April 4, 2012 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 17 Beta Blocker list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers Ongoing Beta RC test results can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_17_Beta_RC_Test_Results See you there, Wednesday, in #fedora-meeting-1 (1, 1, !!!111, make a note of it!) -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 Beta to slip by one week.
At the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Beta by one week[1]. Minutes follow below. Despite valiant efforts by many awesome people, two new blockers appeared between RC1 and RC2, for which fixes are still incoming and will require the creation of an RC3 [2]. As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks, will be pushed out by one week. Beta will now be looking at an expected release of 2012-04-10, and F17 GA is now scheduled for 2012-05-15. The adjustments to the full F17 schedule will be done (very late) tonight, and published to the Schedule wiki page[3]. Please note that the high-level milestones shown on the wiki page have already been updated to reflect the Beta slip. Thanks for your patience. We will be meeting again next Wednesday for another Go/No-Go meeting. -Robyn [1] Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-03-28/f17_beta_go_no_go_meeting.2012-03-28-21.00.html Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-03-28/f17_beta_go_no_go_meeting.2012-03-28-21.00.log.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 17 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting, Wednesday, March 28, @17:00 Eastern
Please join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting-1 for this important meeting. Will the Beefy Miracle live up to the latter half of its name? Attend this meeting and find out! :) Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 17 Beta Blocker list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers Ongoing Beta RC test results can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_17_Beta_RC_Test_Results Cheers! (And do note that we will be in #fedora-meeting-1!) -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
It is time for another episode of: NAME THAT FEDORA RELEASE
Oh, Beefy Miracle, I have relished your name for months, but as your day for widespread consumption (release day) approaches, it is time for the community to choose the name of Fedora 18. This process begins with *you,* dear readers and contributors, as potential names are accepted for submission over the course of the next week, beginning now, March 20th, and ending March 27th (at 23:59:59 UTC, for those of you who can't mustard up any ideas until the last possible second). Frankly, I'm expecting an a-bun-dance of suggestions, and not just from people who cannot take my punni-ness any longer. Rules and guidelines for suggestions, as well as the location in which you may make your name suggestions, are on this wiki page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_18 A quick word on details: You *must* follow the guidelines at the page listed above for your name to be considered. These guidelines include the following items: * There must be an "is-a" link between the name "Beefy Miracle" (the name of F17) and your suggested name. * That link must be different from any previous links between release names. * Names of living people and well-known trademarks will likely be rejected as well. Schedule details for release naming are also shown on the F18 naming wiki page. I know that it may be hard to *top* Beefy Miracle (ahahahaha, get it? As in toppings!) but I do have every bit of faith that many of you have already thought of name suggestions that may or may not be more mature, or more neutral with regards to dietary restrictions. :) I do look forward to seeing your suggested names and recommend, as always, to have fun. Cheers, -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Summary & minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-03-19)
On 03/19/2012 06:38 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: * #830 F18 Feature: ARM as Primary Arch -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraARM (limburgher, 18:44:13) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Machine_Resources_For_Package_Maintainers (nirik, 18:45:42) * AGREED: ask qa, rel-eng, kernel and infra teams to provide feedback on the proposal. Ask fesco members to come up with critera that they would want to add and revisit next week. (+8,-:0,0:0) (limburgher, 19:09:50) It's fairly disappointing this was discussed during this meeting without being on the agenda that was sent out. This is a rather large item that needs a lot of discussion among the various groups in Fedora, and I'm sure that I'm not the only person that wasn't aware it was even going to be in the meeting today. (Even ignoring the fact that the agenda was sent without a proper Subject and easily skipped.) It's plain irritating that per the logs, the proposers of this thought it was just going to be covered in the 'Open Floor' section. Seriously, this is not the way to start off on a great foot for such a major proposal. Agreed, my apologies. I'm still getting the hang of chairing meetings and only saw the ARM feature after I sent the agenda. I added it to the meeting thinking additional discussion would be helpful, not necessarily that it needed a definitive vote. I'll certainly be more careful all around next time. My apologies on this as well (EVERYWHERE TONIGHT) - this feature went my way late Friday, I went back and forth with feature owners a bit over the weekend, and added the ticket as "open floor (for today) or meeting (next week)" figuring that there was not going to be a definitive vote, but that there was likely going to be numerous rounds of questions, and leaving it to the discretion of FESCo to decide if they wanted to even address it today vs. just acknowledge that "THIS IS COMING." Perhaps I could have made that clearer in the ticket, or more inherently known that "we cannot possibly look at a ticket without immediately having one million questions," but I don't think this should be put on the feature owners themselves as a bad way to start off; they were just looking to start the discussion as way-before-F18 as possible. Throw the blame my way, and I am pretty sure that the team of folks working on this are well aware that this is not going to be a cut-and-dry decision, and understand that it will likely take a while to get through the discussion of the feature with all involved parties. They made themselves quite available today, and I don't doubt that they will be doing the same in future meetings should this continue to go forward. -r -J josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: when does Fedora 18 Release Naming start?
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > So according to the Wiki, naming hasn't started yet, but it is also > almost over :-) > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_18 > > Naming Period: 13 March 13 through 20 March > > So when does it really start? Per the schedule published here: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-fpl.html (see line 76) tomorrow, or technically tonight sometimeish for all good things UTC. The sometime-tonight-ish is the "when I send out the announcement" part. Yes, I realize the wiki says something different, I was toying around with dates to avoid Easter, decided it was better to stick with the published schedule, and failed to undo the wiki page changes, what with my non-perfect-ism and all. :) Anyhoo, I'll fix the dates on the wiki before I ship out any announcements. Thanks for being detail-oriented, please see me for your voucher for one beef- or vegan- filled hot dog. :D -Robyn > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
FUDCon Kuala Lumpur travel subsidy requests are now open
Greetings, As you may know, there is a planned APAC FUDCon in Kuala Lumpur coming up soon, May 18-20 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012 If you are planning to attend FUDCon Kuala Lumpur and need a travel subsidy, the ticketing system is currently open for requests. Requests will be accepted through March 27, 2012. Please note that funding requests without a ticket will not be considered. The travel budget is limited, and preference will be given to attendees from the APAC region who are actively contributing to Fedora, and have detailed their participation plans for FUDCon in their subsidy request. To place a subsidy request, please follow these steps: 1: Pre-register at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012#Pre-registration 2: Put an X in the $$$ column 3: Read about the funding request process and place a funding request ticket in the FUDCon-planning ticket tracker here: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/wiki/FundingRequest Thank you! -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 18 feature processing?
On 03/05/2012 07:54 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: Hey, I'm wondering whether there's some kind of disconnect in the feature process at the moment: In order to avoid the kind of last-minute inclusion craze that everybody hates, we decided to postpone rpm-4.10 for F18 and hoped to get a pre-release version into rawhide right after branching F17, but it's been almost a month now since filing the feature (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RPM4.10) ready for wrangler, with no signs of activity from the wrangler to pass it on to FESCo (or request corrections) that I can see. Any idea what's up here? Lots of people are understandably busy with F17 preparations at this point, but now would also be the perfect time to start introducing features deemed for F18 into rawhide, rather than day before feature freeze. I'd rather have my "feature" done and dealt with well before F18 alpha even appears on the horizon. Sorry, your feature wrangler has been slightly preoccupied. :) I'll get the existing wrangler submissions reviewed/submitted for next week's FESCo meeting. I don't think you need to wait for the Feature wrangler here. Just commit it to the master branch and build for F18. It's not like kernel, gcc, and glibc upgrades sit around waiting on a Feature page to get looked at. Unless there is something that requires a large coordination with other packages, I think you're good. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 17 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD(en mustard color)!
At the F17 Alpha Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 17 Alpha release (RC4) was declared GOLD, and ready for shipment on February 28, 2012. GOLD is the color of mustard, and, as you know, mustard indicates progress. A huge thank you to everyone who made this on-time(!!!) Alpha release possible. My (occasionally inaccurate) research tells me that the last time we shipped an Alpha according to schedule was Fedora 10. That is some excellent progress, in my humble opinion :) Meeting details can be seen here: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-02-22/f17_alpha_go_no-go_meeting.2012-02-22-22.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-02-22/f17_alpha_go_no-go_meeting.2012-02-22-22.00.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-02-22/f17_alpha_go_no-go_meeting.2012-02-22-22.00.log.html Full minutes are posted below. RELEASE THE HOT DOGS! -Robyn = #fedora-meeting-1: F17 Alpha Go No-Go Meeting = Meeting started by rbergeron at 22:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-02-22/f17_alpha_go_no-go_meeting.2012-02-22-22.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Roll Call (rbergeron, 22:00:19) * tflink is here for QA (rbergeron, 22:00:45) * nirik here for fesco/devel in some way; dgilmore here for rel-eng (rbergeron, 22:01:49) * also present: rbergeron for wranglin', brunowolff for awesomeness and helpfulness (rbergeron, 22:02:07) * We are Gathered to Serve a Alpha Taste Test of The Beefy Miracle, and determine if we are ready to ship said Holiness. (rbergeron, 22:02:43) * Looking have the blocker list clear: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 22:03:09) * Test Matrices need to be complete (rbergeron, 22:03:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Install (rbergeron, 22:03:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Desktop (rbergeron, 22:03:44) * This will determine if release criteria have been met, if we can ship. (rbergeron, 22:03:57) * Release Blocker Review (rbergeron, 22:05:07) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 22:05:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796261 (tflink, 22:06:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=796261 (tflink, 22:07:03) * Bootloader not installed? (F17 Alpha RC4) (tflink, 22:07:18) * AGREED: - 796261 - RejectedBlocker - This seems to be an isolated incident since we have several positive results and only the one negative (tflink, 22:10:30) * No more remaining blockers for F17 alpha. (rbergeron, 22:10:44) * Test Matrices (rbergeron, 22:12:04) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Install (rbergeron, 22:12:19) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_17_Alpha_RC4_Desktop (rbergeron, 22:12:22) * remaining failures on test cases for alpha are not blockers (related to creation of usb media; issue is with livecd-tools and not alpha itself, should have a new build in the next few days) (rbergeron, 22:13:57) * AGREED: Test Matrices are acceptably complete, given livecd-tools fix coming, things look great and we have many other install methods working properly. (rbergeron, 22:16:32) * The Hot Dog Looks Tasty and Ready. Can we ship F17 Alpha? (rbergeron, 22:17:05) * AGREED: All criteria for shipping F17 alpha are met; QA, rel-eng, devel are prepared to ship on tuesday. (rbergeron, 22:20:45) * AGREED: F17 Alpha RC4 is accepted as Alpha! (rbergeron, 22:21:23) * Thanks to everyone for an on-time Alpha release, you rock! RELEASE THE HOT DOGS! (rbergeron, 22:22:17) * ACTION: rbergeron to send out GOLD announcement and meeting logs (rbergeron, 22:22:34) * Any other business? (rbergeron, 22:22:40) Meeting ended at 22:24:50 UTC. Action Items * rbergeron to send out GOLD announcement and meeting logs Action Items, by person --- * rbergeron * rbergeron to send out GOLD announcement and meeting logs * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * rbergeron (65) * tflink (20) * adamw (14) * dgilmore (7) * nirik (6) * brunowolff (5) * zodbot (5) * satellit_ (3) * jsmith (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 17 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Wednesday, February 22 @ 17:00 EST
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting for this important meeting, wherein we shall determine the readiness of the Alpha taste-testing of the Beefy Miracle, better known as Fedora 17. Wednesday, February 22, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EST/14:00 PST) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 17 Alpha Blocker list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers Cheers! -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 17 Feature Freeze is TOMORROW, February 7.
A friendly reminder as we move towards a miraculous, beefy release: * Feature freeze is tomorrow, February 7, 2012. At this point, all accepted features should be substantially complete, and testable. Additionally, if a feature is to be enabled by default, it must be so enabled at Feature Freeze. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Feature_Freeze_Policy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Milestones#Feature_Freeze If you are a FEATURE OWNER: * The percentage of completion on your feature's wiki page should reflect your current progress. Feature pages should be updated *at least* monthly. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Status * Features which do not appear to be substantially complete will be sent to FESCo for review as to whether or not they should continue to be listed as a release feature. Your feature's wiki page status and indication of progress is what determines whether or not it will be sent to FESCo. Please, for the love of Beefy, UPDATE YOUR PAGES. There are 62 features () currently slated for F17. Updating your feature page's completion percentage, along with the date that you updated your page, prevents me from having to relentlessly beg you all individually via e-mail to do the same thing. :) If you have questions, concerns, flames, or winning lottery tickets which will prevent you from completing your feature, please don't hesitate to contact me. -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Wireless Access at FUDCon Blacksburg
If you are attending FUDCon:Blacksburg next week (January 13-15), you need to request a guest internet access account in order to use the guest wireless access on the Virginia Tech campus. It is requested that you sign up for this account PRIOR to your arrival at FUDCon. Pretty please. Directions for obtaining wireless access are listed on the FUDCon Blacksburg wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012#Wireless_Registration However, since I'm really nice, I'll spell it out in this email as well: 1. Go to the guest wireless registration page, here: https://guest.cns.vt.edu/apps/home.action 2. Enter start date: 1/13/2012, for example 3. Enter end date: 1/15/2012, for example 4. Sponsoring Department: Select "Mathematics" 5. Contact Person: Enter "Ben Williams" (our awesome, gracious host and contact at VT) 6. Purpose: FUDCon 7. Click the "Create Request" button 8. Enter email address and select "New Guest" 9. Fill out form including secret questions, password boxes, and agree to the Acceptable Use Policy 10. Click "Create Account" 11. Receive email in your inbox and verify your request. Thanks, and I'm looking forward to seeing everyone next week in Blacksburg! :) -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Self Introduction
On 12/01/2011 02:12 AM, Schwickerath Ulrich wrote: > Hello, > > My name is Ulrich Schwickerath, I'm working at CERN for the IT division, > where I've done some rpm packaging of internally used software for > many years. I got involved in virtualization and cloud computing activities, > and have been working with OpenNebula. Recently, we upgraded > our OpenNebula server to SL6 and OpenNebula 3.0, for which I had to do some > packaging of ruby gems which I believe are useful for the > community as well. I started in August with one request [1] which I would > like to complete, to start with. > > Thanks to all, > Ulrich > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=719854 Hi Ulrich, A big cloudy welcome to you as well (gee, look at all the cloudy introductions today!) As I said to Troy - you're welcome to also join the Cloud SIG mailing list - we have a number of people interested in swapping cloudy package reviews, discussing things, etc. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud I see in your bz that IRC access is not an option right now, which is a bummer, but we are always happy to converse on list. Cheers, -Robyn -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Self Introduction
On 11/30/2011 04:25 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: > Hello, > I've been creating rpm packages for Fermi Linux for over 10 years, and > Scientific Linux 8 years, but I never had time to do anything for Fedora > and EPEL. Now that I'm not with Scientific Linux, I've got the time. > I'd like to help with the OpenShift client packages for Fedora and EPEL. > So I'm going to sign up to be a co-maintainer for rubygem-rhc, and > rubygem-json-pure (a new dependancy for rhc). > > Troy Dawson Can I please roll out a giant blue carpet to welcome you? :) You should consider also joining the Cloud SIG mailing list - we'd love to hear about your progress in openshift-land, and help out where we can. (We also have IRC meetings on Fridays, and you're of course welcome to join, and we hang out in #fedora-cloud.) https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/cloud -Robyn -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Minutes from today's town hall meeting for FESCo election candidates
Minutes and logs from today's town hall for the FESCo candidates can be seen here: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2011-11-21/fedora_townhall.2011-11-21-18.01.html Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2011-11-21/fedora_townhall.2011-11-21-18.01.log.html Cheers, Robyn -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] FUDCon Blacksburg subsidies announcement, and general planning update.
Greetings everyone, A few updates on the upcoming FUDCon in Blacksburg, VA in January 2012: * We will be having our second subsidy meeting on Wednesday, November 23rd. This meeting will be for evaluating and processing any available subsidy monies for international attendees, as well as processing any new North America-based subsidy requests. If you are requesting a subsidy, please ensure that your Trac ticket for requesting subsidies is complete, particularly and especially with detail to what you plan to accomplish / do while at FUDCon. With more than ten international requests, and limited funding, it is especially important for the people attending the meeting to have a clear picture of your plans in order to make a decision on funding. The subsidy meeting is open for anyone to attend. Please feel free to participate, especially if you have requested funding, so that we may ask questions and get answers in a timely manner. The meeting occurs this Wednesday (during the normal FUDCon planning meeting time) at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net (9am Pacific, Noon Eastern). For more information on applying for a subsidy, please read https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/wiki/FundingRequest * Pre-registration for FUDCon is open. If you are planning to attend, please visit the event wiki page at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012 to add your name to the registration list. * Rooms at the hotel for FUDCon can be booked now. The block is open until December 28, 2011. Details on booking your room can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012#Lodging_.2F_Hotel * As always, your participation is welcomed, and your help is appreciated. Signing up on the fudcon-planning mailing list is a great way to find out how you can help, and to get more details about FUDCon as the event draws near. Sign up at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning to get on the list. Thanks, and I hope to see you at FUDCon! :) -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 16.
The Fedora Project is pleased to announce the release of Fedora 16 ("Verne"). Fedora is a leading-edge, free and open source operating system that continues to deliver innovative features to many users, with a new release about every six months. Fedora 16 brings exciting new features for desktop users, for system administrators, and for developers. Highlights of these features can be found below. If the mere mention of Fedora 16 is all you need, download options can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora For detailed information, see the release notes: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Release_Notes/ == Dedication== During the preparation of Fedora 16, the computing world lost one of its great contributors: Dennis Ritchie. Ritchie co-invented Unix and the C language. He also co-authored The C Programming Language, a book that taught many programmers just at the time personal computing was exploding. Without Ritchie computing would be nothing like it is today. A humble man, not well-known outside his field, Dennis will always be remembered by those of us who practice the craft. Thank you, Dennis. == What's New in Fedora 16? == For desktop users: a journey to the center of the desktop... * GNOME 3.2, the latest update to the most popular desktop environment, brings new features, including: o System Settings gains an "Online Accounts" panel, which provides a central point for managing online accounts like Google, Facebook, etc. o A new contact management application is integrated with Empathy, Evolution and the new "Online Accounts" settings panel o A new document management application provides a simpler alternative to traditional file management for both local and "in-cloud" documents. * KDE 4.7, the most recent version of this feature-rich desktop environment, brings substantial updates, including: o DigiKam 2.0 adds face detection and recognition, geotagging and more. o An updated Plasma Workspaces window manager (KWin) makes KDE better suited for mobile devices, and also adds improvements for desktop users. o A new shutdown dialog allows users with multiple operating systems to select the OS to boot next. For developers: Twenty thousand lines in C... * Perl 5.14, a new version of Perl, brings many enhancements, including Unicode 6.0 support. * GCC Python Plugins extend GCC with Python 2 and 3, without dealing with the C internals of GCC. * D2: Fedora 16 is the first Linux distribution to include the newest version of D, a systems programming language combining the power and high performance of C and C++ with the programmer productivity of modern languages such as Ruby and Python. For system administrators: around the world in eighty columns... * GRUB2: This leap forward allows better configuration options and better support for non-x86 architectures. * New system account ID numbering: Fedora 16 starts user IDs at 1000, providing more room for system accounts and making it easier for administrators not have services run as root. This improves interoperability with other Linux distributions that start user IDs at 1000. * Chrony: Chrony provides network time protocol (NTP) client and server pieces which are more tolerant of unstable clocks and Internet connections which are not always on. * ext4 driver mounts ext2 and ext3: Fedora 16 uses the ext4 driver to mount ext2 and ext3 file systems, reducing the size of the kernel code. * Improved virtualization tools: o Fedora 16 provides improvements to virtual networking, making large deployments easier. o Virt-manager guest inspection is a unique-to-Fedora tool allowing read-only access to guest file systems, applications, and Windows registry. o Fedora 16 provides locking of virtual disks to prevent a disk being used by multiple virtual machines simultaneously. * Cloud goodies galore: o Aeolus, a cross-cloud Infrastructure-as-a-Service (IaaS) platform, which consists of a web-based user interface and tools for managing cloud instances across heterogenous clouds. o OpenStack, another IaaS platform, which takes form as a collection of services for setting up and running a cloud compute and storage infrastructure. o Pacemaker-cloud, which provides application service high availability for cloud environments. o HekaFS, a cloud-ready version of GlusterFS, which extends the filesystem to be suitable for deployment by a cloud provider by adding in stronger authentication and authorization, encryption, and multi-tenancy. This is only a taste of what is included in Fedora 16. A more detailed list can be found at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/FeatureList == Download and Upgrade == Fedora 16 is not science fiction. It is here right now: http://get.fedoraproject.org To launch Fedora 16 instances in the cloud, refer to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_images If you are upgrading from a previous release of F
Re: Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5
Sorry (about the lack of clarification, *and* for top-posting - on a sucky client) - I was going for brevity, and mistakenly thought that the policies/requirements for each election was on the main election page and/or each nomination page - and it's not, which should also be corrected. -Robyn - Original Message - From: "Bruno Wolff III" To: "Robyn Bergeron" Cc: t...@lists.fedoraproject.org, devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 3:29:38 PM Subject: Re: Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5 On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 08:16:57 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > > Full information about the elections, including the elections schedule, > and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections This misses an important link. FESCO has their policy for elections at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy One of the listed requirements is that nominees be members of the packager group. We currently have a FESCO nominee who participates in QA who does not qualify for FESCO if the information on that page is still accurate. This should probably get clarified before the election gets started. I think FESCO dates back before there was a formal QA group and it may make sense to modify the requirements for FESCO members in light of changes over the last 3 years. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Nomination period for Fedora Board, FESCo, and FAmSCo elections closes Nov. 5
Greetings and salutations, It is time for yet another edition of "Robyn's Fedora Public Service Announcements" :) I'd like to give you a friendly reminder that the nomination period for the upcoming Fedora elections will be closing promptly TOMORROW, Saturday, November 5, 2011, at 23:59:59 UTC (US 19:59:59 EDT, 16:59:59 PDT). Full information about the elections, including the elections schedule, and links to where one may nominate, can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections This election cycle will fill the following seats for a one-year period: * Fedora Board: 2 elected seats, as well as 2 appointed seats * FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee): 4 elected seats * FAmSCo (Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee): 7 elected seats Running concurrently with the nomination period (and, hence, closing at the end of the nomination period), the elections questionnaire is also open for adding questions which will be posed to candidates. Following the closing of the questionnaire, candidates will be asked to answer questions relevant to the position for which they are seeking election. Questions may be added here, and, again, will also close on Saturday, November 5, 2011: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_elections_questionnaire If you are planning on seeking election to one of these bodies, please remember to complete your self-nomination *prior* to the deadline. Additionally, if you have a fellow contributor who had indicated interest and has not yet self-nominated, be a Friend and remind them to act promptly. Thanks! -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Final Release Declared GOLD!
At the Fedora 16 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 16 Final Release was declared GOLD and ready for release on November 8, 2011. And to clarify: It is a nice, golden, almost... mustard-like color. :) Thank you to EVERYONE for your sleepless nights, endless testing, prompt bug-fixing, and endless patience through 5 release candidates. A reminder that the Fedora 16 Release Wide Readiness Meeting will take place Today, pretty much now, at 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern/ 12 PM Pacific) at irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting-1 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings #fedora-meeting: F16 Final Go or No Go Meeting Round Two http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting Meeting started by rbergeron at 18:00:29 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-11-03/f16_final_go_or_no_go_meeting.2011-11-03-18.00.log.html Meeting summary --- * Gathering Friends (rbergeron, 18:00:47) * Why are we here (rbergeron, 18:01:27) * Purpose of this meeting is to determine if all the Release Criteria have been met, so we can ship this puppy out the door. (rbergeron, 18:02:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Final_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 18:02:36) * Blocker Bugs (rbergeron, 18:02:53) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 18:03:03) * Look at his beady, majestic eyes. (rbergeron, 18:03:35) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=750469 was just reopened (robatino, 18:03:56) * LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Installation_Guide/Making_USB_Media-UNIX_Linux.html (tflink, 18:17:42) * Test Matrices and etc. (rbergeron, 18:25:30) * AGREED: 750469 needs to be fixed but does not need to delay f16 release; we can fix by updating l-i-t-d in all extant releases (14, 15) (adamw, 18:25:43) * absolutely all tests are covered and pass or warn (rbergeron, 18:26:13) * Release Engineering (rbergeron, 18:29:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4967#comment:17 (tflink, 18:31:09) * Anything else before we Set Sail? (rbergeron, 18:35:01) * To Go, or Not To Go? (rbergeron, 18:36:49) * F16 is declared GOLD! Ship it. (rbergeron, 18:38:51) * AGREED: F16 is declared GOLD! Ship it. (rbergeron, 18:39:04) * Thanks to EVERYONE for your sleepless nights, your hard work, your bug fixing. (rbergeron, 18:39:34) * And endless testing, and endless building. (rbergeron, 18:39:45) * There is a readiness meeting in ~20 minutes here in #fedora-meeting. (rbergeron, 18:40:04) * rbergeron will send out a GOLDEN GOLD MAIL to mailing lists. (rbergeron, 18:40:22) * in #fedora-meeting-1. (rbergeron, 18:40:39) * Grats to everyone on shipping yet another INCREDIBLY feature-filled release. (rbergeron, 18:41:27) Meeting ended at 18:42:18 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * rbergeron (88) * adamw (54) * thedonvaughn (25) * nirik (20) * jsmith (10) * tflink (9) * N1tr0g3n (9) * bcl (8) * zodbot (5) * dlehman (5) * kparal1 (2) * red_alert (2) * robatino (1) * hno_ (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 FINAL Go/No-Go Meeting is WEDNESDAY, not TODAY, sorry!
See below; everything still applies, except: Meeting is Wednesday, November 2, 2011, at 21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT, 14:00 PDT). I'm just, you know, making sure y'all are paying attention. AdamW is the winner today! :D -Robyn On 11/01/2011 05:02 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting for this important > meeting, Tuesday, November 1, 2011, at 21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT, 14:00 PDT). > > "Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering > meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular > release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." > > "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of > the QA Team." > > For more details about this meeting see: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting > > And while you wait, keep an eye on the current F16 final blockers, and > help fill out the test result matrices: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_16_Final_RC_Test_Results > ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 FINAL Go/No-Go Meeting, TUESDAY, November 1, 2011 @ 21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT)
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting for this important meeting, Tuesday, November 1, 2011, at 21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT, 14:00 PDT). "Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting And while you wait, keep an eye on the current F16 final blockers, and help fill out the test result matrices: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_16_Final_RC_Test_Results ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F16 Final Change Deadline is Monday, Oct. 24.
Greetings, This is your friendly reminder that the Final Change Deadline for F16 is Monday, October 24, 2011. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Change_deadlines "After the change deadlines for the Final release no more updates are made to the branched development repository (e.g. /pub/fedora/linux/development/16). The only exceptions are accepted blocker and "nice to have" bugs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_nth_bug_process All updates after this time are considered zero day updates of the release, and are pushed to the updates repository which is available on the public availability date. For example, the repository for Fedora 16 is /pub/fedora/linux/updates/16." The next step in the process is to create a final release candidate (RC) to pass on to QA for testing as soon as possible. The RC is scheduled to be created on Tuesday, October 25. Outstanding blocker bugs can delay the creation of the RC, possibly resulting in a one-week slip of the schedule. Current outstanding blocker bugs can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers Thanks, Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Subsidy requests for FUDCon Blacksburg are now OOOOOPEN!
Greetings, FUDCon friends, near and far: As you are probably aware, the 2012 North American FUDCon will be held in Blacksburg, Virginia, on the campus of Virginia Tech. If you are planning on attending, it's never too early to pre-register, and to start thinking about your travel plans. FUDCon Blacksburg will take place January 13-15, 2012. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012 I'm happy to announce that we are officially accepting subsidy requests for travel to Blacksburg. If you are requesting a subsidy, we just have a few steps that we ask you to follow: 1: Register on the FUDCon: Blacksburg wiki page in the pre-registration area. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012#Pre-registration 2: Put an X in the $$$ column. 3: Create a funding request ticket in the FUDCon trac at: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/wiki/FundingRequest General information about being sponsored can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees . Requests are processed in a first-come, first-served manner, though generally prioritization is giving to local travel over international travel first. Requests will be reviewed by fellow Fedora community members at FUDCon subsidy request meetings over the next few weeks. The first subsidy meeting will take place on Wednesday, November 9th. The time and IRC channel will be announced as we approach that day. As always, participation both in planning as well as subsidy granting is ALWAYS welcome. Please join us on the fudcon-planning mailing list for information about meetings, as well as for general FUDCon updates, and see the "meetings" section of your FUDCon's wiki page for meeting information. Mailing list: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning FUDCon Blacksburg Meetings: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012#Meetings ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] F16 Beta Go/No Go Meeting, Round 2.5, + report-out on yesterday's meeting.
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting for the second half of this important meeting. Thanks to the tireless* efforts of our outstanding QA folks, testing on RC4, created late yesterday, has been ongoing all night long. We'll be having the second-and-a-half round of our F16 Beta Go/No-Go TODAY. The first half of this meeting occurred yesterday[1][2], and it was decided that we would make a stretched effort to have another RC including fixes by midnight last night that looked viable, which actually happened. (Had it not been viable, we would have called it No-Go by midnight.) Thursday, September 29, 2011 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 16 Beta Blocker list: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers -Robyn * Though I know you guys are *very* tired, and your work is MONDO appreciated. [1] Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-28/f16_beta_go_no_go.2011-09-28-21.00.txt [2] Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-28/f16_beta_go_no_go.2011-09-28-21.00.log.html Meeting Minutes from Go/No-Go Round 2.0: #fedora-meeting: F16 Beta Go No Go Meeting Round two Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:24 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-28/f16_beta_go_no_go.2011-09-28-21.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Who is here? (rbergeron, 21:00:53) * present: jdulaney, nirik, rbergero (rbergeron, 21:01:03) * Why are we here? (rbergeron, 21:01:47) * Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to see whether or not the beta release criteria have been met. (rbergeron, 21:02:28) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Beta_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 21:02:43) * Current release blockers (rbergeron, 21:05:29) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 21:05:38) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727522 (adamw, 21:08:57) * AGREED: 727522 is really fixed, the apparent rc2/rc3 reproducers were pilot error (adamw, 21:11:50) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (adamw, 21:11:53) * 737731 doesn't block f16 image creation, will get fixed by an F15 update. (rbergeron, 21:13:06) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741655 (adamw, 21:13:45) * AGREED: 741655 is not a beta blocker as it's a crazy custom partition layout, moved to final (adamw, 21:15:51) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741781 (adamw, 21:16:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741781#c19 provides an explanation of the two bugs, if you want a quickish catch-up (adamw, 21:18:29) * AGREED: If we have a built anaconda and RC4 by midnight pacific tonight, opt to do go/no-go tomorrow. Otherwise, slip one week. (rbergeron, 21:37:28) * if we don't have what is needed by midnight pacific, Robyn will send out the No-Go Mail. (rbergeron, 21:39:32) * ACTION: nirik will be coordinating the RC; he needs to be told when anaconda/grub is ready. (rbergeron, 21:39:48) * For status updates/questions, please check in #fedora-qa (rbergeron, 21:41:42) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741817 (adamw, 21:43:10) * AGREED: 741817 not a blocker as long as it leaves f15 install bootable, adamw will check that (adamw, 21:53:56) * Re-No/Go Meeting time (rbergeron, 21:54:13) * AGREED: will meet tomorrow, same bat time, same bat channel, to do final go/no-go decision. (rbergeron, 21:56:32) * robyn will be out tomorrow (rbergeron, 21:56:44) Meeting ended at 21:58:19 UTC. Action Items * nirik will be coordinating the RC; he needs to be told when anaconda/grub is ready. Action Items, by person --- * nirik * nirik will be coordinating the RC; he needs to be told when anaconda/grub is ready. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * rbergeron (142) * adamw (125) * jdulaney (28) * nirik (27) * dgilmore (26) * jsmith (24) * pjones (11) * VileGent (4) * zodbot (4) * tflink (3) * hno (3) * brunowolff (1) * tk009 (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list
[Test-Announce] F16 Beta Go/No Go Meeting, Round 2.
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Wednesday, September 28, 2011 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 16 Beta Blocker list: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Beta to slip by one week.
Late yesterday at the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Beta release of F16 by one week [1]. Minutes follow below. There are numerous unresolved blockers at this time [2], resulting in the inability to compose a viable release candidate. As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks, will be pushed out by one week. We will proceed with having the F16 Beta readiness meeting today, 2011-09-22, as previously announced on the Logistics mailing list. We will have another F16 Beta Blocker Bug meeting this Friday. The adjustments to the F16 schedule will be done as soon as humanly possible, and published to the Schedule wiki page[3]. Thanks for your patience. We will be meeting again next Wednesday for another Go/No-Go meeting. -Robyn [1]Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2011-09-21/f16_beta_go_no-go_meeting.2011-09-21-21.02.log.html Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2011-09-21/f16_beta_go_no-go_meeting.2011-09-21-21.02.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/Schedule #fedora-meeting-1: F16 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:02:12 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2011-09-21/f16_beta_go_no-go_meeting.2011-09-21-21.02.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Gathering Bodies and Minds (rbergeron, 21:02:28) * Why are we here? (rbergeron, 21:03:53) * The purpose is to decide whether the *beta* release criteria hav ebeen met. (rbergeron, 21:04:34) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Beta_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 21:05:13) * Remaining Blocker Bugs (rbergeron, 21:06:02) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 21:06:14) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (adamw, 21:07:20) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (adamw, 21:07:32) * Big outstanding bugs are 738803, 737731, 738964. (rbergeron, 21:07:59) * we have fixes for 738803, 738964, but landed recently and we dont' have a compose with them yet. (rbergeron, 21:09:55) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964 (adamw, 21:11:52) * Unable to make system bootable due to bootloader choice (tflink, 21:12:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964 (tflink, 21:12:20) * AGREED: - 738964 - AcceptedBlocker - This can cause lots of problems with existing disks and installations. The fix needs quite a bit of testing by nature (tflink, 21:19:12) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (adamw, 21:19:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738803 (tflink, 21:20:21) * SELinux denial(s) prevent(s) gnome-shell from starting on F16 Beta RC1 (tflink, 21:20:30) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (adamw, 21:22:25) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (tflink, 21:24:17) * Bootloader is left in F15 configuration when preupgrading to F16 (tflink, 21:24:26) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735866 (adamw, 21:26:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735866 (tflink, 21:27:25) * boot hangs with udevadm settle - timeout of 120 seconds (tflink, 21:27:34) * will make final call on 735866 staying as blocker or not on friday (rbergeron, 21:37:27) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737774 (adamw, 21:38:10) * AGREED: 737774 is a blocker (adamw, 21:41:05) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739258 (adamw, 21:41:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739258 (tflink, 21:41:27) * Graphical firstboot runs, even if /etc/sysconfig/firstboot has RUN_FIRSTBOOT=NO (tflink, 21:41:38) * AGREED: 739258: jsmith is sure about this one but no-one else can reproduce, ask jsmith to look into it more closely and re-evaluate on friday (adamw, 21:49:16) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739345 (adamw, 21:49:51) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739345 (tflink, 21:50:08) * pylorax throws an exception when used with fedora-logos-16.0.2 (tflink, 21:50:19) * AGREED: 739345 is a blocker as it can make it impossible to generate images (adamw, 21:55:48) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739910 (adamw, 21:56:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739910 (tflink, 21:56:28) * gnome-packagekit fails when trying to update - The package id's '' are not valid (tflink, 21:56:46) * AGREED: 739910 is not a blocker or nth as the affected gnome-packagekit is not in the beta frozen package set (adamw, 22:01:53) * https
[Test-Announce] F16 Beta Go/No-Go meeting
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 16 Alpha Blocker list: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 16 Alpha is hereby declared GOLD!
At the F16 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting that just occurred, the Fedora 16 Alpha release was declared GOLD. F16 Alpha will be released Tuesday, August 23, 2011. Thanks to all of those who helped out to make this happen, as always -- we wouldn't be here without everyone's assistance and hard work. For those interested in the details... Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-17/f16_alpha_gono-go_meeting_%232.2011-08-17-21.05.html Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-17/f16_alpha_gono-go_meeting_%232.2011-08-17-21.05.log.html Documentation folks: Please note that there is a known bug that is being requested to be documented in the Alpha release notes; details are in the logs/minutes. Thank you!! Cheers, -Robyn Full minutes follow below: === #fedora-meeting: F16 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting (redux) === Meeting started by adamw at 21:05:45 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-17/f16_alpha_gono-go_meeting_#2.2011-08-17-21.05.log.html Meeting summary --- * roll call (adamw, 21:06:18) * present nirik tflink, thedonvaughn, pjones, athmane, gr72, nb, cebbert, viking_ice, boblfoot (adamw, 21:07:33) * preamble (adamw, 21:07:49) * the Purpose of the Go/No-Go is to gather yay/nay's from Release Engineering, QA, and devel on whether or not what we have put together is ready for release and meets the release criteria. (adamw, 21:08:18) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Alpha_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 21:10:36) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Alpha_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 21:11:13) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 21:11:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_16_Alpha_RC5_Install (adamw, 21:11:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_16_Alpha_RC5_Base (adamw, 21:11:58) * There are no remaining proposed blockers, and no unresolved approved blockers. (rbergeron, 21:11:58) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_16_Alpha_RC5_Desktop (adamw, 21:12:11) * AGREED: : document 731529 as a known bug, to be fixed by beta as it is a blocker, in alpha release notes (rbergeron, 21:18:41) * AGREED: document 731529 as a known bug, to be fixed by beta as it is a blocker, in alpha release notes (rbergeron, 21:19:05) * ACTION: rbergeron to copy docs for release notes purposes on meeting minutes (rbergeron, 21:19:30) * QA is a 'go' - no remaining unresolved blockers, test matrices look good. (rbergeron, 21:20:20) * release engineering (rbergeron, 21:20:24) * release engineering is a 'go', no issues are known, nirik is channeling dgilmore. :) (rbergeron, 21:22:52) * Devel (rbergeron, 21:22:58) * Nirik is in for fesco/devel - he is a go. (rbergeron, 21:23:26) * It's a go! (rbergeron, 21:23:34) * Release will be tuesday, 2011-08-23. (rbergeron, 21:23:55) * ACTION: rbergeron to send out meeting notes to appropriate lists. (rbergeron, 21:24:05) * RC5 is our guy. All parties needed for this meeting agree that we are GO. (rbergeron, 21:24:27) * Any other business? (rbergeron, 21:25:33) * dgilmore has verified that releng is a go. (rbergeron, 21:30:31) Meeting ended at 21:30:52 UTC. Action Items * rbergeron to copy docs for release notes purposes on meeting minutes * rbergeron to send out meeting notes to appropriate lists. Action Items, by person --- * rbergeron * rbergeron to copy docs for release notes purposes on meeting minutes * rbergeron to send out meeting notes to appropriate lists. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * rbergeron (57) * adamw (49) * nirik (16) * gr72 (11) * thedonvaughn (9) * jsmith (7) * nb (5) * zodbot (5) * Viking_Alpha (5) * pjones (4) * robatino (3) * tflink (2) * cebbert (2) * dgilmore (2) * BobLfoot (1) * jforbes_kvmforum (1) * clumens (1) * athmane (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting #2, Wednesday, August 17 @ 17:00 EDT
On 08/17/2011 07:23 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > Sorry for belated notice, though I've talked to almost everyone > involved about the timing - have been travelling. > > Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. > > Wednesday, August 17, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) This should state 2100 UTC, which is still 17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT. I apologize for my (apparently ongoing) inability to correctly convert timezones, despite even double-checking things in a converter. :) -Robyn > > "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering > meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular > release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." > > "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of > the QA Team." > > For more details about this meeting see: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting > > In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 16 Alpha Blocker list: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers > > -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting #2, Wednesday, August 17 @ 17:00 EDT
Sorry for belated notice, though I've talked to almost everyone involved about the timing - have been travelling. Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Wednesday, August 17, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 16 Alpha Blocker list: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha to slip by one week.
Today at the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Alpha by one week[1]. Minutes follow below. There are numerous unresolved blocker bugs at this time[2], requiring the creation of an RC4 once these blockers are resolved. As a result, ALL MAJOR MILESTONES, and their dependent tasks, will be pushed out by one week. We will proceed with having the F16 Alpha readiness meeting tomorrow, 2011-08-11, as previously announced on the Logistics mailing list. We will have another F16 Alpha Blocker Bug meeting this Friday. The adjustments to the F16 schedule will be done (very late) tonight, and published to the Schedule wiki page[3]. Thanks for your patience. We will be meeting again next Wednesday for another Go/No-Go meeting. -Robyn [1] Logs: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-10/f16_alpha_gono-go_meeting.2011-08-10-21.00.log.html Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-10/f16_alpha_gono-go_meeting.2011-08-10-21.00.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/Schedule === #fedora-meeting: F16 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting === Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:26 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-10/f16_alpha_gono-go_meeting.2011-08-10-21.00.log.html Meeting summary --- * present: spot, codeblock, dgilmore, pjones, athmane, cebbert, jsmith-mobile, adamw (rbergeron, 21:03:42) * Go/No-Go Meeting (rbergeron, 21:04:07) * the Purpose of the Go/No-Go is to gather yay/nay's from Release Engineering, QA, and devel on whether or not what we have put together is ready for release and meets the release criteria. (rbergeron, 21:05:28) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting (adamw, 21:06:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers <-- that one I know by heart, though. (rbergeron, 21:06:42) * Proposed Blockers (rbergeron, 21:09:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729563 (rbergeron, 21:10:04) * clumens has an updates image (linked in BZ) for people to try out. (rbergeron, 21:12:33) * AGREED: : #729563, NTH Alpha, consider adding criterion for selinux must be enabled by default later. (rbergeron, 21:14:39) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729500 (rbergeron, 21:15:04) * Error while installing updates on Fedora 16 Alpha RC3 (rbergeron, 21:15:20) * AGREED: revisit #729563 at Blocker meeting friday, try to get more testers. PLEASE TEST THIS ONE AND TRY TO DUPLICATE, FOLKS! (rbergeron, 21:17:34) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729528 (rbergeron, 21:17:53) * #729528 - Unable to configure events in reporter to forward in anaconda for F-16-Alpha-RC3 (rbergeron, 21:18:09) * AGREED: #729528 Alpha Blocker, per criterion of installer must be able to report failures to BZ, wiht appropriate info included. (rbergeron, 21:22:19) * http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729537 (rbergeron, 21:22:53) * 729537 - Anaconda cannot report crashes in text mode in F16 Alpha RC3 due to missing report-cli (rbergeron, 21:23:14) * AGREED: 729537 Alpha Blocker, per criterion of installer must be able to report failures to BZ, with appropriate info included. (rbergeron, 21:25:32) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728707 (rbergeron, 21:25:48) * 728707 - on package upgrade RPM is removing empty directories accidentally (rbergeron, 21:26:02) * AGREED: 728707 is a blocker under 'must be able to install updates' criterion - this constitutes not installing updates properly (adamw, 21:33:36) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=729600 (adamw, 21:37:37) * LINK: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Installation_Guide/Making_USB_Media-UNIX_Linux.html (jlk, 21:47:30) * AGREED: 729600 not blocker or nth, installing from a dd'ed DVD iso is expected to require extra configuration. documentation should be improved to outline the steps required (adamw, 21:56:27) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728863 (adamw, 21:57:30) * go/no-go vote (adamw, 22:00:30) * AGREED: Fedora 16 Alpha is no-go at this time (adamw, 22:01:32) * ACTION: rbergeron will take care of updating the schedules (adamw, 22:02:04) * open floor (adamw, 22:03:40) Meeting ended at 22:05:08 UTC. Action Items * rbergeron will take care of updating the schedules Action Items, by person --- * rbergeron * rbergeron will take care of updating the schedules * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * adamw (167) * rbergeron (73) * pjones (66) * jlk (49) * dgilmore (36) * Viking_Alpha (35) * tfli
Re: Btrfs status for F16
On 08/08/2011 05:44 AM, Josef Bacik wrote: > Hello, > > In order to hopefully (and I understand this is a unrealistically big > hope) stem the amount of hostile comments and random remarks about > Btrfs not being ready for F16 that I get with _every_ bz that get's > filed against it, let me announce this as clearly as possible > > BTRFS WILL NOT BE THE DEFAULT FILE SYSTEM FOR F16 > > Fesco outlined basic requirements that needed to be met by Alpha for > the switch to be allowed to happen and we have not met those > requirements so it won't be happening for F16. > > I appreciate those who will continue to use it and report bugs, we are > working very hard on trying to get everything more stable and it is a > slow going process. With your help we will be in a better situation > for F17. Thanks, Thanks for the update. I'm going to take it off the Feature List, and recategorize the Feature back to FeaturePageIncomplete. Next time! :) -Robyn > Josef -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Wednesday, August 10 @ 17:00 EDT
On 08/08/2011 08:15 AM, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. > > Wednesday, August 10, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) My mistake - 21:00 UTC. 17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT still applies. -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, Wednesday, August 10 @ 17:00 EDT
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Wednesday, August 10, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 16 Alpha Blocker list: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: New feature for Fedora 16: new mkdumprd
On 07/14/2011 03:35 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Américo Wang > wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 03:50:07PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> Would any of you kindly help to review my proposed feature >> for Fedora 16? >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NewMkdumprd Feature proposal dealing was yesterday? >>> deadline, of course. >>> >> Am I too late? I made the page before the deadline, just sent >> it out a little late. :-/ > The deadline is for FESCo to review it by, so yes you're a little late. > > However, you can still do the work and get it into F16. The only > thing you won't get is some possible marketing as a feature. You can > still get it mentioned in the release notes though. > > josh A few things here: Yes, the feature proposal deadline is for *FESCo* to have reviewed and accepted features, as laid out here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Milestones#Submitting_New_Features However, as Feature Wrangler, I'd argue that the milestone name is slightly misleading -- and this used to be far more easily dealt with when FESCo meetings occurred on Tuesdays, which is the same date as the feature submission deadline. It doesn't help that Feature Wrangler (me) is still fairly new at this in some ways... and thus I myself didn't realize that the "submission" deadline is actually an "acceptance" deadline. Which means there are currently 14 features waiting for FESCo review that came in between about an hour *before* the FESCo meeting, and the end of the day on 7/12, that I should have pushed back on, but didn't. I'll follow up to the devel-list on a separate mail that will hopefully catch a few more eyeballs, but essentially I'm going to propose to FESCo that this feature, along with all of the other features submitted at the last moment, be able to be considered. -Robyn -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 16 Schedule Reminders - Feature Submission and Feature Freeze.
A few friendly reminders: * The Feature Submission deadline for Fedora 16 is *tomorrow*, July 12. The current process for submitting a feature for Fedora 16 can be seen here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy * Feature Freeze comes quickly after the Feature Submission deadline, on July 26. Please note that at this point, Features should be *substantially complete and in a testable state.* For more information on the Feature Freeze policy, please read: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/FeatureFreezePolicy And finally for those of you interested in seeing how the Feature List is shaping up for Fedora 16, it is up to date with the latest and greatest approvals from today's FESCo meeting. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList This is where I'm going to put on my Gentle Reminder Hat, and give everyone a chance to go into their individual feature pages and update their percentage complete, and update their "Last Updated" date, which I will apply to the main FeatureList page. Your efforts here are appreciated, and help a number of groups understand how close you are to completion, or conversely, if you are at risk of not making deadlines. If percentages don't start getting updated, and "last-updated" dates aren't getting touched, I'll be reaching out to folks individually, but I would prefer to see that people take the initiative and keep those things up. Otherwise I have to get out the not-so-Gentle-Reminder-Hat, and frankly, I don't look very good in that one. Communication is the key here. If you believe you are *at risk* of not making the Feature Freeze, please update your feature page accordingly. The rest of the schedule, as always, can be seen here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/Schedule Thanks! -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Reminder: Fedora Engineering Steering Committee election town hall is today.
Greetings! As previously announced, the town hall for the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) is today, May 31, 2011. The town hall will be taking place at 1800 UTC (2pm US-Eastern). For information on how to participate, please see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#How_to_Join Further information about the elections, including the schedule and process, can be seen here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections There are 5 seats open in this FESCo election, and 8 candidates. Please consider attending the town hall today, and bringing your questions to be asked of the nominees during the course of the town hall. A summary and the IRC log will be posted and linked from the wiki after the discussion, if you're unable to watch it live. FESCo candidates and their information can be seen here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations Cheers, Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 15 Final Release is declared GOLD!
At the Fedora 15 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 15 Final Release was declared GOLD and ready for release on May 24, 2011. Please note that the Fedora 15 Release Wide Readiness Meeting will take place on Thursday at 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern/ 12 PM Pacific) on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings Thanks to everyone for doing your part to get Fedora 15 out the door! :) == #fedora-meeting: Fedora 15 Go or No go Meeting http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting == Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-05-17/fedora_15_go_or_no_go_meeting.2011-05-17-21.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Who's here? (rbergeron, 21:00:54) * Why are we here? (rbergeron, 21:02:11) * The purpose of this meeting is to decide whether the final release criteria have been met (rbergeron, 21:02:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Final_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 21:02:50) * To Go, or Not to Go? That is the question. (rbergeron, 21:03:51) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 21:04:16) * the four proposed blockers are not blockers, per yesterday's QA meeting. (rbergeron, 21:07:04) * AGREED: We are technically blocker free. (rbergeron, 21:09:57) * Test Matrices (rbergeron, 21:10:13) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Final_RC3_Desktop (rbergeron, 21:10:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Final_RC3_Install (rbergeron, 21:11:10) * We will be composing a sugar live image late with some sugar-specific fixes pulled in. (rbergeron, 21:12:49) * Only desktop and KDE can block the release. (rbergeron, 21:13:03) * AGREED: Test matrices are acceptable for a go. (rbergeron, 21:13:45) * Rel-eng (rbergeron, 21:14:11) * FESCo/Devel (rbergeron, 21:15:14) * GOLD? (rbergeron, 21:16:31) * AGREED: Fedora 15 is declared gold. shipit! (rbergeron, 21:18:09) * open floor (rbergeron, 21:18:48) * Thanks to the systemd and gnome/desktop guys as both groups did a lot of work to get those large features working well. (rbergeron, 21:19:30) * and Thanks! to everyone else as well! (rbergeron, 21:19:36) * ACTION: rbergeron to send out GOLD email to the lists (rbergeron, 21:19:58) * Please note there is a readiness meeting on Thursday, email has been sent to logistics list as well as attendees needed to be present. (rbergeron, 21:20:21) Meeting ended at 21:22:46 UTC. Action Items * rbergeron to send out GOLD email to the lists Action Items, by person --- * rbergeron * rbergeron to send out GOLD email to the lists * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * rbergeron (58) * adamw (29) * dgilmore (8) * cwickert (6) * Viking-Ice_ (6) * brunowolff (5) * jsmith (4) * zodbot (3) * stickster (3) * nirik99 (3) * spot (3) * fenrus02 (2) * jlaska (2) * red_alert (1) * therefore (1) * athmane (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release is declared GOLD!
At the Fedora 15 Final Go/No-Go meeting today, the Fedora 15 Final Release was declared GOLD and ready for release on May 24, 2011. Please note that the Fedora 15 Release Wide Readiness Meeting will take place on Thursday at 19:00 UTC (3 PM Eastern/ 12 PM Pacific) on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings Thanks to everyone for doing your part to get Fedora 15 out the door! :) == #fedora-meeting: Fedora 15 Go or No go Meeting http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting == Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-05-17/fedora_15_go_or_no_go_meeting.2011-05-17-21.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Who's here? (rbergeron, 21:00:54) * Why are we here? (rbergeron, 21:02:11) * The purpose of this meeting is to decide whether the final release criteria have been met (rbergeron, 21:02:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Final_Release_Criteria (rbergeron, 21:02:50) * To Go, or Not to Go? That is the question. (rbergeron, 21:03:51) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 21:04:16) * the four proposed blockers are not blockers, per yesterday's QA meeting. (rbergeron, 21:07:04) * AGREED: We are technically blocker free. (rbergeron, 21:09:57) * Test Matrices (rbergeron, 21:10:13) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Final_RC3_Desktop (rbergeron, 21:10:48) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Final_RC3_Install (rbergeron, 21:11:10) * We will be composing a sugar live image late with some sugar-specific fixes pulled in. (rbergeron, 21:12:49) * Only desktop and KDE can block the release. (rbergeron, 21:13:03) * AGREED: Test matrices are acceptable for a go. (rbergeron, 21:13:45) * Rel-eng (rbergeron, 21:14:11) * FESCo/Devel (rbergeron, 21:15:14) * GOLD? (rbergeron, 21:16:31) * AGREED: Fedora 15 is declared gold. shipit! (rbergeron, 21:18:09) * open floor (rbergeron, 21:18:48) * Thanks to the systemd and gnome/desktop guys as both groups did a lot of work to get those large features working well. (rbergeron, 21:19:30) * and Thanks! to everyone else as well! (rbergeron, 21:19:36) * ACTION: rbergeron to send out GOLD email to the lists (rbergeron, 21:19:58) * Please note there is a readiness meeting on Thursday, email has been sent to logistics list as well as attendees needed to be present. (rbergeron, 21:20:21) Meeting ended at 21:22:46 UTC. Action Items * rbergeron to send out GOLD email to the lists Action Items, by person --- * rbergeron * rbergeron to send out GOLD email to the lists * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * rbergeron (58) * adamw (29) * dgilmore (8) * cwickert (6) * Viking-Ice_ (6) * brunowolff (5) * jsmith (4) * zodbot (3) * stickster (3) * nirik99 (3) * spot (3) * fenrus02 (2) * jlaska (2) * red_alert (1) * therefore (1) * athmane (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 15 FINAL Go/No-Go Meeting, TUESDAY, May 17, 2011 @ 21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT)
Join us on irc.freenode.net in #fedora-meeting for this important meeting, Tuesday, May 17, 2011, at 21:00 UTC (17:00 US-Eastern, 14:00 US-Pacific). "Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting And while you wait, keep an eye on the current F15 final blockers, and help fill out the test result matrices: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_15_Final_RC_Test_Results See you there! (And my apologies for sending this out in a less-than-timely manner - I had it stuck in my head that this meeting was Wednesday.) -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 15 Final Change Deadline, and Outstanding Blocker Bugs
This is your friendly reminder that we have reached the Final Change Deadline for Fedora 15. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Change_deadlines "After the change deadlines for the Final release no more updates are made to the branched development repository (e.g. /pub/fedora/linux/development/15). The only exceptions are accepted blocker and "nice to have" bugs: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_nth_bug_process All updates after this time are considered zero day updates of the release, and are pushed to the updates repository which is available on the public availability date. For example, the repository for Fedora 15 is /pub/fedora/linux/updates/15." The next step in the process is to create a final release candidate (RC) to pass on to QA for testing as soon as possible. However, we have a handful of bugs left that are blocking the creation of the RC. Delays in resolving the bugs listed below will prevent the creation of the RC, and CAN CAUSE A SLIP IN THE SCHEDULE. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=697834 697834 :: NEW :: gnome-menus :: rstrode Other menu appears in default installation (any .desktop entry with Category=Settings ends up here (even if there's also Category=System)) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693809 693809 :: ASSIGNED :: imsettings :: tagoh Error message about missing input methods should be removed ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 15 Beta is hereby declared GOLD!
At the Fedora 15 Beta Go/No-Go meeting today, the F15 Beta was declared GOLD and ready for release on April 19, 2011. Thanks to everyone, as always, for their hard work and participation in getting this out the door. :) Meeting minutes are below. -Robyn #fedora-meeting: Fedora 15 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-04-13/fedora_15_beta_gono-go_meeting.2011-04-13-21.00.log.html . Meeting summary --- * Roll Call! (rbergeron, 21:00:54) * Need representatoin from QA, Rel-eng, fesco. (rbergeron, 21:01:54) * Why we're here: (rbergeron, 21:05:06) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Engineering_Readiness_Meetings (rbergeron, 21:05:17) * In a nutshell: we are gathered today to determine if release criteria have been met and if the release can be considered GOLD. (rbergeron, 21:05:56) * review of release criteria and so forth (rbergeron, 21:06:19) * AGREED: - remaining blocker, bz 657618, is in verified, only hitting one person, fix is in RC2 already, should not block the release. (rbergeron, 21:11:16) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Beta_RC2_Desktop (adamw, 21:11:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Beta_RC2_Install (adamw, 21:11:50) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694928 (adamw, 21:16:45) * AGREED: No unresolved blocker bugs and all release criteria being met, Fedora 15 Beta is hereby declared GOLD. (rbergeron, 21:30:52) * Open discussion (rbergeron, 21:31:01) Meeting ended at 21:33:49 UTC. Action Items Action Items, by person --- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --- * rbergeron (66) * adamw (59) * jlaska (21) * dgilmore (14) * nirik (8) * nb (6) * zodbot (5) * jsmith (5) * fenrus02 (3) * cwickert (3) * red_alert (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Beta Go/No-Go Meeting Wednesday, April 13, 2011 @ 21:00 UTC
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Wednesday, April 13, 2011 @ 21:00 UTC (17:00 EDT/14:00 PDT) "Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime keep an eye on the Fedora 15 Beta Blocker list and help us get the testing matrix completed by testing. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (One approved blocker left, currently in VERIFIED - woohoo!) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_15_Beta_RC_Test_Results ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Updates stats help wanted
On 04/06/2011 11:05 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > A bit of history: When The Board came up with their updates vision > statement, it included: > > "Project members should be able to transparently measure or monitor a > new updates process to objectively measure its effectiveness, and > determine whether the updates process is achieving the > aforementioned vision statements." > > (see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision ) > > We have some status available to use from Bodhi. > We would like to add more, but aren't sure which are feasable to > implement or would be good to meet the above goal. > > We have a FESCo ticket: > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/517 > > open with an example of the bodhi output and some ideas on what might > be worth collecting, but it's been stalled due to lack of time and > driver. > > Would there be someone out there willing to work on making a list of > 'nice to have' stats and possibly helping implement collecting them? Might make a nice GSoC project, if someone is willing to mentor. -Robyn > Thanks. > > kevin -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha declared GOLD!
At the F15 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting that just occurred, the Fedora 15 Alpha release was declared GOLD. Thanks to all of those who helped out to make this happen! Meeting notes can be found here: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-03-02/fedora_15_alpha_gono-go_meeting.2011-03-02-22.00.txt Full Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-03-02/fedora_15_alpha_gono-go_meeting.2011-03-02-22.00.log.html Cheers! And onwards we go to Beta :) -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
[Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting Wednesday, March 2, 2011 @ 22:00 UTC
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Wednesday, March 2, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EST/14:00 PST) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 15 Alpha Blocker list: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=657616&hide_resolved=1 Talk to you today (sorry for the late notice; I think I've touched base with it on most folks about it for this week, though. I'm officially ill.) -Robyn ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 15 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting Wednesday, March 2, 2011 @ 22:00 UTC
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Wednesday, March 2, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EST/14:00 PST) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 15 Alpha Blocker list: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=657616&hide_resolved=1 Talk to you today (sorry for the late notice; I think I've touched base with it on most folks about it for this week, though. I'm officially ill.) -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 15 Alpha to slip by one week
Today at the Go/No-Go meeting[1] we decided to slip the Alpha by one week. The slip is due to a blocker bug affecting a number of non-US keyboard layouts, including German and French[2], which does not currently have a fix or a reasonable workaround. All other blocker bugs are currently in VERIFIED, or alternately, have workarounds documented in F15_Common_bugs. At this time, we are not adjusting later milestone dates. We will continue with the F15 Alpha readiness meeting tomorrow, as previously announced on the logistics mailing list, and will have another F15 Alpha Blocker Bug meeting Friday. Thanks for your understanding. We will meet again next week for another GO/NO-GO meeting. -Robyn [1] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-02-23/fedora-meeting.2011-02-23-22.00.html [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=676827 ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora 15 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting Wednesday, February 23, 2011 @ 22:00 UTC
Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Wednesday, February 23, 2011 @22:00 UTC (17:00 EST/14:00 PST) "Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting In the meantime, keep an eye on the Fedora 15 Alpha Blocker list: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=657616&hide_resolved=1 Talk to you Wednesday! -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Fedora Board, FESCo & FAmSCo Elections - Voting Information
Greetings, The elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo), and the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) began at UTC on 20th November 2010, and are scheduled to run until 23:59 UTC on 28th November 2010. (Please refer to a UTC time zone converter, such as http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html if you are unsure of your time zone's relation to UTC.) All groups have chosen to use the Range Voting method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_voting). Ballots may be cast on the Fedora Elections System at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting. If this is the first time you've used the voting system, please refer to the Fedora Elections Guide, currently located at http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/documents/elections-guide. To read more about the candidates, please refer to each group's nomination pages: * FAmSCo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2010_nominations * Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections/Nominations * FESCo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations For more general information about the election, as well as finding links for reading candidate answers to questionnaires and IRC town hall transcripts, please refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections. Please remember to cast your vote! Thanks, Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > Fedora 14 was a pretty relaxing and stable release. I'm thinking that > Fedora 15 may be much more exciting. ;) > > Things I know of so far: > > * systemd > * gnome3 / gnome-shell default > * removing a bunch of suid stuff in favor of capabilities > * xfce 4.8 (with any luck). > > Things that are out there, but no idea if anyone is working on them or > if they might be ready by f15: > > * grub2 (no one is driving for this that I know of, but has some > advantages over our grub1 if someone is willing to run with it, although > it may be a lot of work to get it to where we need it). > > * btrfs (Is this ready to be default? :) If so, would that warrant a > change in our lvm by default setup? > > * Can we finally remove hal? (xfce4.8 shouldn't need it anymore with > any luck). > > * Will NM finally be able to do bridging? > > * Some kind of packaged wayland to play with, even if it doesn't do > much? > > Any other exciting work in progress that might land in F15 that people > are actively working on? I just wrote a blog post somewhat relating to this which some of you good folks may have already seen on planet.fp.o, but I'll advertise it here briefly anyhow: http://wordshack.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/clouds-and-jobs-and-fudcons-oh-my/ The short version: the Cloud SIG is planning on having a bunch of goodies, including BoxGrinder, OpenStack, CloudFS, Sheepdog, and (HOPEFULLY) Deltacloud submitted as features for F15. Most of them are already in the works. Links / info about those projects are in the aforementioned blog post link. But I happen to think that having more of a set of building blocks for cloud applications and management in Fedora is VERY, very exciting. :) -Robyn > > kevin > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Want to help pick the F14 Release Slogan?
We need a slogan for the F14 release. A release slogan is a short call-to-action that fits the artwork theme from Design, found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_release_slogan#Themes. (F13's slogan was "Rock it.") If you are interested in suggesting ideas for the release slogan, please take a look at the Release Slogan SOP, and the criteria for selection, at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_slogan_SOP. The slogan must be: * short (1-3 words) * a call to action * positive It should reinforce that Fedora helps the user achieve something great. It should also reflect some of ideas and themes found in the release artwork, and, if possible, also touch upon the Four Foundations (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations). Please put your slogan ideas here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_release_slogan#New_slogan_ideas The deadline for submissions is Tuesday, August 17, at 21:00 UTC, which is our next Marketing meeting (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings). We'll be discussing submissions there, and then the FPL, Mo Duffy, and the Marketing team lead (that's me!) will take that input and select the final slogan on Wednesday, August 18. Let me know if you have any questions, comments, or concerns -- and let the wiki table know if you have any ideas! Cheers, -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
FESCo and Fedora Project Board Elections - Town Hall Schedule - Starting tomorrow!
As many of you know, the FESCo and Board elections are right around the corner. In each election cycle, a series of town hall meetings is conducted to give the community an opportunity to ask the candidates questions - and hear their answers - on IRC. The town halls for each election are held twice, to allow for participation by community members in varying time zones. The town hall schedule is as follows: Friday, May 14, 2010 - FESCo town hall - 16:00 UTC (12:00pm US Eastern) Monday, May 17, 2010 - Fedora Project Board town hall - 00:00 UTC (8:00pm US Eastern, -SUNDAY-, May 16) Monday, May 17, 2010 - Fedora Project Board town hall - 17:00 UTC (1:00pm US Eastern) Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - FESCo town hall - 02:00 UTC (10:00pm US Eastern, -TUESDAY-, May 18) The town hall schedule, as well as important information about how you can participate in the town halls via IRC, can be seen on the wiki at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#IRC_Town_Halls . For more details on the elections and candidates, please visit http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections. I'm hoping for an excellent community turnout for these town halls - I encourage everyone to join in and participate. -Robyn -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: PROPOSAL: Fedora user survey
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Jon Masters wrote: >> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:30 -0500, Chris Ball wrote: >> >>> Now, there's a reasonable argument that says that Fedora users without >>> FAS accounts didn't vote for FESCo, so it's still legitimate to ask >>> *those* users what they think. The impossibility of reaching such a >>> group of users without incorporating selection bias would turn me off >>> from trying to do that -- it would be nice if we could find out how >>> the entire Fedora-using world feels about updates, but that's not >>> actually plausible. Even just the set of Fedora users who visit >>> http://fedoraproject.org/ is significantly selection-biased already, >>> in my opinion. >> >> You could argue that only certain really interested parties will look at >> fedoraproject.org, but that's why I was suggesting the start page or >> firstboot (bad idea, I know), or something people will see when they >> first open a browser or use a system. Not just the die hards. >> >> My personal opinion is that user feedback in general is a good thing, >> even if you ultimately choose to disregard it. And I think putting a >> survey up for 6 months (e.g. all of F13) would give plenty of time to do >> reasonably useful statistical analysis of opinions. Shove in a few other >> more generic questions if there are any others - e.g. "what do you use >> Fedora for anyway?". Wouldn't that be good to know :) >> >> Jon. >> >> P.S. The government is elected, doesn't mean they don't still hold a >> census every decade to find out who their users are. >> > > Ok just basic statistics here (I will defer to Jeff Spaleta or Diana > or other gurus)... but your analogy and survey need improvement to > have statistical validity. In these sort of surveys you either need to > survey everyone OR survey a random sample that are not self-selected. > > Valid census data is one that has close to 100% coverage within some > statistical deltas. It is probably the most valid data because of > that, however it can be gammed if the people taking don't take it > seriously. [The statistical deltas are the things that everyone argues > about saying you can't trust the data... but well we are all comrade > scientists here (thats supposed to be a funny)] > > Surveys are valid within some margin of error and 'confidence level' > as long as the data can be shown not be self-selecting, the questions > properly phrased, and a study of various groups being polled is known > (reference to census material to know that if you randomly call X > people in Y region you will get Z% of sub-group.) You have to work out > how many people you tried to survey, how many completed the survey, > how much confidence you have in the population etc. > > For a group as small as Fedora (less than 50,000 registered users who > you could survey) you would need to survey that actually is much > larger than standard. An initial survey would probably want to have a > confidence level of 95% and a confidence interval of +/- 5%. If after > the survey your percentages are within that error bar (47% for/48% > against..) you need to resurvey with a larger number. So for a first > step, we would need to get a survey list made, have the questions > reworded/etc to meet various survey tests, and then randomly pick a > population and survey them (I am over simplifying here... there are > various steps required I am not sure of). > > That looks to be about 400 people need to randomly selected and > complete the survey (for +/- 5%). to get down to 1% you would need to > get 6500 people. I don't think that the near-impossibility of having a statistically sound sample that would hold up in a court of law means that we shouldn't at least get a feel for who users are by doing a survey. Certainly, an somewhat unstatistically-sound sampling is much better than all of us guessing, is it not? :) > > > > -- > Stephen J Smoogen. > > Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? > -- Robert Browning > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: PROPOSAL: Fedora user survey
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:48 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:30 -0500, Chris Ball wrote: > >> Now, there's a reasonable argument that says that Fedora users without >> FAS accounts didn't vote for FESCo, so it's still legitimate to ask >> *those* users what they think. The impossibility of reaching such a >> group of users without incorporating selection bias would turn me off >> from trying to do that -- it would be nice if we could find out how >> the entire Fedora-using world feels about updates, but that's not >> actually plausible. Even just the set of Fedora users who visit >> http://fedoraproject.org/ is significantly selection-biased already, >> in my opinion. > > You could argue that only certain really interested parties will look at > fedoraproject.org, but that's why I was suggesting the start page or > firstboot (bad idea, I know), or something people will see when they > first open a browser or use a system. Not just the die hards. > > My personal opinion is that user feedback in general is a good thing, > even if you ultimately choose to disregard it. And I think putting a > survey up for 6 months (e.g. all of F13) would give plenty of time to do > reasonably useful statistical analysis of opinions. Shove in a few other > more generic questions if there are any others - e.g. "what do you use > Fedora for anyway?". Wouldn't that be good to know :) Did someone say... SURVEY?? :) Well. I know the Marketing team would like to know the answers to some of these generic, demographical questions, which is why we're also planning a general end-user survey. :) Marketing FAD is this weekend (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_FAD_2010) and one of our task items is to develop questions for a general Fedora end-user survey. While this is obviously not going to be solely developer-focused, developing a short list of feedback-oriented, rather than vote-oriented questions, with FESCo would be great. By feedback oriented, I mean that questions should be more along the lines of, "What is your current level of satisfaction with X," rather than, "Which of the following should we do? X, Y, or Z?" (In case you're wondering, or getting ready to flame Robyn, the survey is mostly going to be a "who are you, where are you, what are you using Fedora for, how often are you downloading, how do you participate, etc." type of survey. We will have room for more questions, but we do want to keep in mind that having a 350-question survey is a Bad Idea, so we want to be concise and to the point in order to encourage people to actually -finish- the survey. 5-10 minutes, max. Wiki page is here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_research) We're planning on using limesurvey (limesurvey.org) for infrastructure - once we get it packaged (plz come help! :D) and tested and deployed on fp.o infrastructure, we're going to move ahead. And so - if anyone from devel / FESCo is interested in participating in developing a few questions to tack on to our survey - as I said previously, awesome, and I'd be happy to coordinate details on the marketing list. Alternately, since we do plan on allowing any of the fp.o Family to use limesurvey for their own survey needs once it's up and running - you certainly have the option of running your own survey on the infrastructure, and I'd be happy to help word questions appropriately and such. And of course, the option exists to do something entirely different on your own. :) Food for thought. It never hurts to know who end users are - it is just good to be clear up front in a survey that it is a -survey-, and not a -vote-; results are for feedback, not for making immediate decisions, and the questions should be worded as such. I'll be in the corner with my flame-retardant gear on if anyone has questions :D But seriously: We'd love to have a good success with a first survey, and that means having feedback from all the different Fedora teams. We want to get information that is useful to everyone - and NOT let it be an election of any kind. -Robyn > > Jon. > > P.S. The government is elected, doesn't mean they don't still hold a > census every decade to find out who their users are. +1 :) > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F13 Release Slogan - Rock it.
For the 13th Release of Fedora, "Goddard," the Fedora Marketing team ran an open, community based process of slogan submissions, found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_slogan_SOP. That process included guidelines for producing great slogans, and as a result of our call, we received a large number of slogan contributions, which are recorded at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan. After an exciting and enjoyable Marketing Team meeting, the release slogan for Fedora 13 "Goddard" has been chosen and approved: "Rock it!" We would like to thank all the contributors who have participated in this process. Cheers! -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Call for F13 release slogan suggestions
Greetings Friends, We need a slogan for the F13 release. It will be chosen one week from now, on 3/2. A release slogan is a short call-to-action that fits the artwork theme from Design, found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan#Themes. (F12's slogan was "Unite.") If you are interested in suggesting ideas for the release slogan, please take a look at the Release Slogan SOP, and the criteria for selection, at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_slogan_SOP. The slogan must be: * short (1-3 words) * a call to action * positive It should reinforce that Fedora helps the user achieve something great. It should also reflect some of ideas and themes found in the release artwork, and, if possible, also touch upon the Four Foundations (http://https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations). Please put your slogan ideas here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan#New_slogan_ideas The deadline for submissions is Tuesday 3/2 at 20:00 UTC, which is our next Marketing meeting (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings). We'll be discussing submissions there, and then the FPL, Mo Duffy, and the Marketing team lead will take that input and select the final slogan on 3/2, following the marketing meeting. Let me know if you have any questions, comments, or concerns -- and let the wiki table know if you have any ideas! Cheers, Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Call for Participation - Fedora 13 Talking Points
Talking points are key highlights of the new release. They should be compelling, but they will not necessarily be comprehensive. There are different types of talking points for different types of people: general desktop users/everyone, developers, and sysadmins. For the Fedora 13 cycle, we will also have talking points to address some of the Spins. They are meant to provide a short, effective answer to the question, "What cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?" Each cycle, the Marketing team compiles a short list of approximately three talking points for each of these audiences for the upcoming release. For Fedora 13, they're found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points If you have a talking point that you feel meets the criteria found on the talking points SOP page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP, add it to the the table on the F13 page with supporting information. Please make your contributions and changes on the wiki page, so that the Marketing team can efficiently capture and consider your input. The Marketing team will make final adjustments to the list of talking points at their meeting on February 23, which will be announced on the marketing list and is open to everyone. If you are interested in attending the meeting, the agenda, location, and time details can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings. Following the meeting, the finalized list of talking points will be announced, and posted to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points. We welcome you to participate in the process! Cheers, -Robyn ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:54 AM, inode0 wrote: > On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: >> And to answer your question about what "isnt' broken". I suggest you look >> at our http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Statistics page. We've only seen >> growth in 2 of our last 6 releases. Think about that. > > While I don't see that as directly relating to the mission of the > Fedora Project I understand it is important to many people and I > understand there is an indirect link with the mission. But what > indicates that is a problem with the distribution as opposed to a > marketing problem? > The marketing "problem" is this: Who are we marketing to? Defining the target audience - as broad as it may be - helps here. I'd also speculate that part of the reason that Fedora is not seeing as much grown in terms of downloads is that a lot of people don't like to fix what isn't broken. When things -just work-, the average end-user doesn't necessarily want to rock the boat. It could be a good thing. :) Especially when you consider that - although growth in downloads may not be consistent - contributor account growth seems to be very healthy. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Accounts_2009-10.png > John > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Board efforts: scope, concept, and permission?
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Adam Miller wrote: > Hello all, > I wanted to bring a few things up and I wanted to bring them up on > de...@lists.fp.o because this is where most people spend their time. > > First off: "Does letting thousands of contributors do what they > want have a negative impact on our OS? (Mike)"[0] > - I would prefer that this be rephrased to a quote I read that > originated from John Rose (inode0) "isn't it amazing how thousands of > contributors doing whatever they want created such a spectacular OS?" > and I would prefer a focus be turned towards something like "Why was > that the result of doing something that is essentially chaotic?" > I guess my main question is: "Why are we fixing something that isn't > broken?" > > Second: "The Board has been working on defining a target audience > for Fedora. In response to this, some people feel that Fedora should > allow sub-groups to define their own target audience"[1] > - I don't entirely understand this, don't SIGs or (sub groups) > essentially exist purely because there is some target audience? > Clarification on this not would be appreciated. > > Now, we come to the part that I feel is going to be viewed as a > touchy subject by many. Why are there words like "letting" and > "allow" being thrown around so often? I understand there are > guidelines and policies for certain things of technical or legal > nature in Fedora, but it feels a little like there is an attempt here > to dictate how myself, as well as all others, spend their time > contributing to The Fedora Project. I don't think the goal is to dictate how the community spends their time. I'd like to think of it as more of a starting point for attracting new contributors; "here are our broader goals, how you can help, and why you should invest your time in our community, rather than elsewhere." The open-source concept isn't exactly niche anymore; there is an increasing number of people out there who want to contribute, but unlike days long since past where people would contribute because something was broken or non-existent, they're just here to contribute, learn how community works. Finding those potential contributors and giving them a pathway to success is essential to Fedora's long-term growth and reaching our goals (whatever those may be). > > [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Unfinished_Board_issues > [1] > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Walters/SpinsSigsRemixes_TargetAudience > > I would just like to know other contributors thoughts on these topics. > > Thank you for your time, > -AdamM > > -- > http://maxamillion.googlepages.com > - > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel