Re: deltarpm usefulness?

2021-11-06 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
It is not always about speed. There are still plenty of places in the world
where people are on limited data plans and to them using delta rpms makes a
lot of sense. They can work with slow speeds but not with high data
expenses. So i feel turning it on by default and having a setting to turn
it off is still a sane choice. Just my 2 cents.


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Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2020-07-05 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
I don't know about how important EFI and reducing the bootloader technical debt 
is for the project, but at least for me personally, it will be a straight way 
out. My hard disk has a traditional MBR based structure with about a TB of very 
important data. I don't know of a 100% reliable way of converting it to GPT. 
While I do have backup for most important files, not everything is backed up 
nor do I have means to do so.

The system works perfectly fine for me and I see no reason why I should opt for 
EFI. What is the value add for me, at least till I don't upgrade to a newer 
system? which I won't be at least for next 2 years. So forcing such a 
no-value-add change to existing user will drive them away. At least I would opt 
for a different distro in such case even though it's not something I want to do.

I feel the better approach would be to use it as default for new installations, 
if the disks are appropriately formatted or are empty at the time of 
installation. Else a fall back to grub should be transparently done.

Just my 2 cents from a user's perspective.
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Re: Unable to login to Wayland session on Fedora 26 Workstation

2017-07-05 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
I have gone ahead and filed a bug for this  (Bug ID: 1468029) and proposed it 
as final blocker as we are so close to Final release of Fedora 26 and this 
definitely seems like a blocker to me. A working Wayland session is a 
requirement for final release if I am not wrong.
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Unable to login to Wayland session on Fedora 26 Workstation

2017-07-05 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
Hi,

I am using Fedora 26 Workstation x86_64 right from the time of Alpha release, 
it was upgraded from Fedora 25 Workstation using dnf system upgrade.

I don't know when it happened, but today I noticed that on using any of the two 
sessions (Gnome or Gnome on X) from GDM, I always get an X session. I confirmed 
it by trying to do the Alt+F2 -> r command and shell restarted on both times, 
so it is confirmed that X is running.

I tried re-installing packages gdm, gnome-session, 
gnome-session-wayland-session, gnome-classic-session and gnome-session-xsession 
but the problem is still there.

On checking the .desktop files in /usr/share/xsessions, I found that for both 
gnome.desktop and gnome-xorg.desktop, the Exec line reads gnome-session only 
with no session name parameters etc. I don;t remember what should be the 
command lines for these, can anybody enlighten me?

Also, should this be reported as a blocker bug?

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Fedora 23 Rescue Grub Entry Remains after Upgrading to Fedora 24

2016-05-29 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj

Hello Everyone,

Yesterday, I upgraded my fully updated Fedora 23 Workstation 
installation to Fedora 24 using dnf system upgrade plugin without any 
issues. However, I noticed that though Fedora 24 kernel (currently 
4.5.5-300.fc24.x86_64)  is installed and present at the top of the list 
in grub entries, the rescue entry for the system is not updated to use 
the current Fedora 24 kernel. It is still based on the last Fedora 23 
kernel with fc23 in its name.


Is it the way it should be or is it something that should have been 
taken care of by the upgrade process? If that is the case, I think I 
should open a bug in Bugzilla.


I tried running dracut -fv and after that grub2-mkconfig -o 
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg, it updated the text of the rescue entry to read 
Fedora 24 Workstation, but still after booting, uname -a shows fc23 
kernel. Anybody got any idea about how can I regenerate it?


Thanks.

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Upstream Projects Schedule on F24 Wiki Page

2016-03-28 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj

Hi All,

I just noticed that the Upstream Projects Schedule section on the below 
page (Fedora 24 release schedule page) on wiki is not updated for Fedora 
24. Is it intentional?


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/24/Schedule

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modem-manager-gui update in F22 testing repo since 7 days

2015-06-03 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj

Hi Everyone,

There is an important fix for the package modem-manager-gui which 
resolves a crash on startup in the current version (current version is 
not usable at all on Fedora 22) in the updates-testing repo. It is there 
since 7 days and needs 1 karma point to get pushed to stable.


Can somebody please test it out and do the needful? or can the 
maintainer push it since its been 7 days already?


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Re: Fedora 22 Repositories contain Fedora 21 Packages?

2015-05-22 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
Thanks a lot for the quick clarifications Matthew, Kevin and Josh! This 
is why I love Fedora project, the most awesome community we have! :)


Regards,
Sumit Bhardwaj

On Saturday 23 May 2015 01:16 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

On Sat, 23 May 2015 01:10:21 +0530
Sumit Bhardwaj  wrote:


Hi All,

I have a fresh installation of Fedora 22 RC1 with all the extra stuff
I needed installed. Today I was going through the list of packages
installed on my system and was a little bit surprised to find some
packages ending in "fc21" in their names. Now, for an upgraded system
that might happen, but on a clean install, why I am getting FC21
packages?

Because per my understanding, for any branched release, packages are
completely rebuilt. Then how did this happen?

There was no mass rebuild for f22. There was not time in the schedule
to do it and still release around when we wanted to.

Additionally, there's aways some few packages that fail to rebuild in
the mass rebuild but yet continue to work fine. So, on any release you
could see packages from older versions, it's nothing to worry about.


More to the point, do I have to care about or do something about
these? Will these be auto upgraded later with their FC22 counterparts?

No. No need to worry. When/if they need an update for some reason, they
would be built with a newer version and you would update.

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Re: Getting changes from new RC builds to previous ones

2015-05-22 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj

Hi Kevin,

Thanks for explanation. That cleared things up for me. I was not aware 
of the bleed "repo", and indeed all those updates were there. Need to 
read the wiki more :)


As a matter of fact, I just got all the updated packages from the RC2 
build from "fedora" repository, so its clear to me now.


Regards,
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Fedora 22 Repositories contain Fedora 21 Packages?

2015-05-22 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
list-1.0.8-9.fc21.noarch
d-feet-0.3.9-1.fc21.noarch
xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.7-12.fc21.noarch
python-beaker-1.5.4-10.fc21.noarch
nodejs-mkdirp-0.3.5-5.fc21.noarch
python-ecdsa-0.11-3.fc21.noarch
nodejs-ini-1.1.0-5.fc21.noarch
nodejs-retry-0.6.0-7.fc21.noarch
nodejs-sntp-0.2.4-3.fc21.noarch
nodejs-asn1-0.1.11-5.fc21.noarch
nodejs-npmconf-0.1.3-2.fc21.noarch
nodejs-aws-sign-0.3.0-3.fc21.noarch
mono-winforms-2.10.8-7.fc21.x86_64
nodejs-minimatch-0.2.12-4.fc21.noarch
po-debconf-1.0.16-4.nmu2.fc21.noarch
nodejs-archy-0.0.2-10.fc21.noarch
python-feedparser-5.1.3-7.fc21.noarch
paktype-naskh-basic-fonts-4.1-4.fc21.noarch
redhat-menus-12.0.2-8.fc21.noarch
nodejs-semver-2.1.0-3.fc21.noarch
nodejs-which-1.0.5-10.fc21.noarch
nodejs-config-chain-1.1.7-3.fc21.noarch
nodejs-sigmund-1.0.0-7.fc21.noarch
nodejs-child-process-close-0.1.1-4.fc21.noarch
python-dns-1.11.1-4.fc21.noarch
jnr-x86asm-1.0.2-5.fc21.noarch
pdfmod-0.9.1-8.fc21.noarch
joda-time-2.3-2.tzdata2013g.fc21.noarch
ghostscript-fonts-5.50-33.fc21.noarch
system-config-date-docs-1.0.12-2.fc21.noarch
python-beautifulsoup4-4.3.2-3.fc21.noarch
nodejs-rimraf-2.2.2-2.fc21.noarch
nodejs-chownr-0.0.1-11.fc21.noarch
libcue-1.4.0-4.fc21.x86_64
python-pyasn1-modules-0.1.7-4.fc21.noarch
nodejs-read-package-json-1.1.3-2.fc21.noarch
python-BeautifulSoup-3.2.1-8.fc21.noarch
telepathy-filesystem-0.0.2-7.fc21.noarch
rubypick-1.1.1-2.fc21.noarch
python-decorator-3.4.0-5.fc21.noarch
comps-extras-23-2.fc21.noarch
nodejs-boom-0.4.2-4.fc21.noarch
nodejs-hawk-1.0.0-2.fc21.noarch
pytz-2012d-7.fc21.noarch
nodejs-http-signature-0.10.0-5.fc21.noarch
nodejs-request-2.25.0-2.fc21.noarch
mono-web-2.10.8-7.fc21.x86_64
nodejs-uid-number-0.0.3-9.fc21.noarch

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 22 Final status is Go, release on May 26, 2015

2015-05-22 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj

Hurrah! Heartiest congratulations to everyone involved!

BTW,  does this means that RC3 is the final build?? No more RCs, right?

Thanks.

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Re: Getting changes from new RC builds to previous ones

2015-05-22 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj

Hey Parag / Everybody,

RC3 has also been released however, I haven't got a single update yet 
post installation of RC1. If I am not wrong, TC and RC builds are 
composed from Fedora stable repo. So if packages are being added to this 
repo before composing the RC builds, how come these updates are not 
getting pushed to me? Just curious.


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On Thursday 21 May 2015 11:28 AM, Parag Nemade wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Sumit Bhardwaj
 wrote:

Hi All,

I have switched to Fedora 22 Workstation yesterday, fresh install using RC1
ISO. Everything is working well.

However, today I noticed RC2 build is up. But since final freeze in effect,
I got no updates when checked today with dnf upgrade --refresh command.

Is there any way I can pull these changes into my current setup? I intend to
keep this setup and take it to final release without reinstalling.



I think you should get RC2 package updates by tomorrow. The request to
push those packages to F22 stable can be tracked in ticket
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6120#comment:25

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Getting changes from new RC builds to previous ones

2015-05-20 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
Hi All,

I have switched to Fedora 22 Workstation yesterday, fresh install using RC1
ISO. Everything is working well.

However, today I noticed RC2 build is up. But since final freeze in effect,
I got no updates when checked today with dnf upgrade --refresh command.

Is there any way I can pull these changes into my current setup? I intend
to keep this setup and take it to final release without reinstalling.


Thanks.

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Updates repositories switch to Fedora 22 normal Updates

2015-05-13 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj

Hi,

Noticed that we have now entered the Final Freeze, so I was wondering 
when will the Fedora 22 repositories will auto-switch to the normal 
updates repositories from current update-testing? If I am not wrong this 
change is pushed via a package update somewhere around this time.


I usually wait till this time and then do my upgrade. Otherwise, when 
repos are switched, sometimes a lot of packages get downgraded/upgraded 
while doing distro-sync. This is just my way of doing things...no real 
benefits etc that I can think of.


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Re: F22 System Wide Change: Legacy implementations of the Java platform in Fedora

2015-02-24 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
Hi All,

I have been reading this mail chain for some time and there is something
I wanted to say. It's kind of a long mail, I apologize for taking so
much of your time but request you to please bear with me. I work as a
technical consultant on IBM WebSphere, IBM BPM, Java/J2EE and Python
technology stacks, who has to code on Java/J2EEquite often as well and I
use Fedora 21 Workstation as my primary OS. My field of work is such
that I need to use JDK versions 1.4, 5, 6, 7 and 8, all from time to
time. This is because as time passed, solutions delivered to customers
were built using incremental versions of Java/J2EE specifications and
were not frequently upgraded. In my role, the changes/fixes I do to
these enterprise apps are usually small and require only a certain jar
file to be recompiled, or in some cases only one class. In such cases,
maintaining binary compatibility is a must and for that I need to
recompile that one jar/class with the original version of JDK that was
used to compile the rest of the project in the first place.

I use Oracle java in most cases due to corporate policies (for personal
use, I use the latest version of OpenJDK). Now as per Oracle's policy,
which I am sure is similar for OpenJDK as well, a particular version of
JDK/JRE is updated till and even some time after the next major version
is released, and then at a certain Update level, Oracle stops supporting
it. That update version becomes the final update for that particular
major release, and is sent into archives, while updates keep on getting
released for the current version.

With Oracle JDK, there are two installation approaches available for RPM
based systems. They provide an RPM package which installs java
in /usr/java, i.e. in system area and the latest installed java version
become default. However, they also provides tarballs of JDKs, that
contain certain standard directory structure of JDK  intact inside one
folder. These tarballs can be extracted and placed in any place on file
system and once JAVA_HOME is pointed towards these+PATH is locally
updated to include it, user can basically use this JDK without any
issues. What version of Java is installed in system as default, in
system area (/usr/java) become irrelevant.

With IDEs like Eclipse and NetBeans the process is even simpler, as you
can define these individual folders as JDKs for particular API versions
in IDE configuration permanently and while creating a project can choose
to use any of these "defined JDKs". This is the approach that I take. I
have the last updated versions of all the JDKs from 1.4 to 8 in my /opt
folder. I have these configured in Eclipse and NetBeans for each API
version and I use them all as required by the project.

So I guess if OpenJDK can follow the same approach and can give an
option to download tarballs of older versions and use them in place,
without requiring any installation, as a definite directory structure,
then the problem is solved. There is no need to maintain old version per
se in repositories, as these are not updated anymore and the user will
be able to use multiple versions without conflict of any kind. As for
the default JDK, it can be kept how it is now i.e. The latest available
JDK can be maintained in Fedora repos as they are being maintained now
and updates can be provided for the defined lifetime of that JDK.

Let me know what you guys think about this approach.

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On Tue, 2015-02-24 at 18:22 +0100, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:

> On 02/24/2015 05:21 PM, Mario Torre wrote:
> > On Tue, 2015-02-24 at 15:37 +0100, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> >> On 02/24/2015 02:15 PM, Jiri Vanek wrote:
> >>> On 02/24/2015 12:43 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> >>>> I am against official guidelines or policy for legacy JDK packages. I
> >>>> don't think that any such policy is needed and it would only encourage
> >>>> adoption of old packages for which there might be no security updates.
> >>>
> >>> Well thats the point - people are calling for them. And wont to maintain
> >>> them with this risk.
> >>
> >> I thought that the point of this change proposal was "enabling community
> >> to maintain legacy JDKs", not encouraging people to package them without
> >> good reason or without involvement to truly maintaining them. Packaging
> >> older JDKs is *already* possible, so IMHO this change accomplishes
> >> nothing but showing people how they can dump old, unmaintained software
> >> into Fedora.
> > 
> > Well, in this case it would not be un-maintained, the Fedora package
> > would *not* be maintained *by us* (the Red Hat Java Team) indeed, but we
> > are still actively contributing to the upstream software in its various
> > versions. While you as a packager cannot specifically c

Re: Removal of Fedora Planet post links from start.fedoraproject.org

2015-02-17 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
Well, I understand your point Matthew. Yes, often the post are on the
geekier side and may not be related to Fedora project as such, but most
of them are about Linux in general and day to day problems/solutions in
a Linux user's life. I am not aware of the intentions behind the Planet
Fedora aggregator's invention but if I am not wrong, all the blog posts
that appear on it are from Fedora contributors only, from some project
or other. Many times these posts are very informative and solve highly
technical problems or provide way around some tricky situations based on
real life experiences. So Planet Fedora is important for me personally,
both as a user and as a developer. Going to it directly by entering the
URL is ok but is a additional step.

What you are saying about the start page is correct and yes, it should
cater to the wider audience as much as possible. What I think can be
done at least is since the new UI has tabs on top, another tab can be
added that points to the planet fedora aggregator. It still won't be
that useful but at least it won't be completely gone from the page. I
think its an important part of it and I am sure there will be few other
also, if not many, who developed a habit of checking it from start page
over time like me. 

I will do some more thinking on it and if I come up with some subtle
design changes that can incorporate planet Fedora links without actually
changing the new design language and audience view of the page, I will
surely share it. In that case, with whom can I share these?

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Sumit Bhardwaj 

On Tue, 2015-02-17 at 11:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:07:37AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > Hope its the right place to discuss this. Recently, during the redesign
> > > of the start.fedoraproject.org page, the links to updated/new posts from
> > > planet.fedoraproject.org were removed. Any specific reason for this?
> > Often, those posts were not Fedora related, and generally out of our
> > control. I'm glad you found them usually interesting — that's valuable
> > feedback.
> 
> After some coffee, I should add some more explanation. Fedora has many
> times more users than developers, and the start page should primarily
> appeal to that wider audience. Most of the content on the planet — even
> that which is properly Fedora-related — is pretty highly tilted towards
> the geekier contributor side. There's nothing wrong with that, but it
> can be overwhelming. So, the goal with the Magazine is to be more
> user-focused (although there's still a lot of contributor-focused stuff
> mixed in as well; we're still working on the balance).
> 
> If you're deeply involved and want the firehose,
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org is there. If *you'd* like to contribute
> user-focused content (even reposting from your blog, or whatever), see 
> <https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/52782/how-do-i-contribute-to-fedora-magazine/?answer=52786#post-id-52786>
> 
> There's also value in having users aware of the wider community and
> drawing them in, so, again... we're working out the balance, and
> everyone's help figuring that out is welcome.
> 
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Removal of Fedora Planet post links from start.fedoraproject.org

2015-02-17 Thread Sumit Bhardwaj
Hi All,

Hope its the right place to discuss this. Recently, during the redesign
of the start.fedoraproject.org page, the links to updated/new posts from
planet.fedoraproject.org were removed. Any specific reason for this?

I, for one, used those links for quickly going through the new blog
posts. Planet Fedora blog articles are much more frequent than those
posted in fedora magazine (although that is needed as well). So 8 out of
10 times when I opened my browser, I used to get something new to read
and  follow from there to the actual blog if I find it interesting.

Now with blog links gone, I feel less and less compelled to open the
page every time I open my browser and I feel like removing it as my
start page. I think the idea behind having a start page is to have users
actually use it as start page and find value in doing that. I personally
feel that is gone, because now, most of the times I get the same
articles. So once a day visit to fedora magazine is enough.

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Sumit Bhardwaj 


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