[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In Version||perl-Tk-804.029-4.fc16 Resolution||ERRATA Last Closed||2011-11-04 21:25:50 --- Comment #13 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-11-04 21:25:50 EDT --- perl-Tk-804.029-4.fc16 has been pushed to the Fedora 16 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 --- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-10-24 23:26:38 EDT --- perl-Tk-TableMatrix-1.23-12.fc16 has been pushed to the Fedora 16 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 --- Comment #12 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-10-24 23:42:23 EDT --- perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac-1.2-9.fc16 has been pushed to the Fedora 16 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 --- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-10-21 13:17:00 EDT --- perl-Tk-804.029-4.fc16 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 16. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Tk-804.029-4.fc16 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #10 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-10-21 20:10:30 EDT --- Package perl-Tk-804.029-4.fc16: * should fix your issue, * was pushed to the Fedora 16 testing repository, * should be available at your local mirror within two days. Update it with: # su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing perl-Tk-804.029-4.fc16' as soon as you are able to. Please go to the following url: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-14700 then log in and leave karma (feedback). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 --- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-10-13 03:29:17 EDT --- perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac-1.2-9.fc16 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 16. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac-1.2-9.fc16 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 --- Comment #7 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-10-13 04:53:52 EDT --- perl-Tk-TableMatrix-1.23-12.fc16 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 16. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Tk-TableMatrix-1.23-12.fc16 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 --- Comment #8 from Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de 2011-10-13 05:49:32 EDT --- I am delaying splitting out Tk::MMutil into a perl-Tk-MMutil subpackage, because something else has caught my attention: perl-Tk contains further modules, I believe to be devel modules in particular Tk/MakeDepend.pm and Tk/install.pm. Provided this, I am inclined to think it would be better to move Tk/MakeDepend, Tk/install and Tk/MMutil into a perl-Tk-devel sub package, instead of just splitting out Tk/MMutil Opinions, comments? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de changed: What|Removed |Added AssignedTo|andreas.bierfert@lowlatency |rc040...@freenet.de |.de | --- Comment #3 from Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de 2011-10-12 12:26:03 EDT --- Any objections to comment#2 ? Shouldn't there be any objections to splitting out Tk/MMutil.pm into a subpackage within the next couple of hours, I'll apply a patch implementing this to rawhide and f16, tomorrow. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||iarn...@gmail.com --- Comment #4 from Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 2011-10-12 13:01:54 EDT --- Only a half-hearted objection - I don't care too much about perl-Tk. But Tk::MMutil is nothing more than a Tk-specific EU::MM extension. Nothing explicitly requires or buildrequires it. Only a couple of perl-Tk packages (perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac and perl-Tk-TableMatrix) expect it to be there at build time due to BR perl(Tk) - and however you resolve this, both would need to be updated as a result (unless you do nothing, of course). I think it would be slightly more obvious for builds to fail because EU::MM is missing rather than Tk::MMutil is missing. Pretty much everyone knows what to do if EU::MM is missing at build time (just BR EU::MM). Missing Tk::MMutil could easily lead to WTF is Tk::MMutil? check on CPAN WTF? It's part of Tk, and perl-Tk is installed, but Tk::MMutil is missing!!. Bottom line, yes, perl-Tk should strictly require EU::MM. But for ~99.9% of users, it doesn't actually need to. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 --- Comment #5 from Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de 2011-10-13 00:43:54 EDT --- (In reply to comment #4) Only a half-hearted objection - I don't care too much about perl-Tk. But Tk::MMutil is nothing more than a Tk-specific EU::MM extension. Nothing explicitly requires or buildrequires it. Right - Minor packaging bugs. Only a couple of perl-Tk packages (perl-Tk-ProgressBar-Mac and perl-Tk-TableMatrix) expect it to be there at build time due to BR perl(Tk) Thanks for pointing out these 2 packages. Besides these 2, I haven't found any further packages using perl(Tk/MMutil), yet (But I am still checking). - and however you resolve this, both would need to be updated as a result (unless you do nothing, of course). Right - Such packages will be facing FTBS's during the next FTBS round or the next perl mass rebuild. I think it would be slightly more obvious for builds to fail because EU::MM is missing rather than Tk::MMutil is missing. Pretty much everyone knows what to do if EU::MM is missing at build time (just BR EU::MM). Missing Tk::MMutil could easily lead to WTF is Tk::MMutil? check on CPAN WTF? It's part of Tk, and perl-Tk is installed, but Tk::MMutil is missing!!. Well, isn't that the usual devel-runtime complaint? Nothing to worry much about, IMO. Bottom line, yes, perl-Tk should strictly require EU::MM. I do not agree. No mere run-time module should require EU::MM nor should any of these require perl-devel. In case of perl(Tk), it's only Tk::MMutil which pulls in EU::MM and perl-devel. That said, to me, splitting out Tk/MMutil, is just an ordinary devel-runtime package split with all the usual issues attached. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 --- Comment #1 from Nicolas Chauvet (kwizart) kwiz...@gmail.com 2011-10-10 17:35:01 EDT --- Created attachment 527333 -- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=527333 Filter perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) Patch tested to work with this scratch build for dist-f16 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3420279 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/getfile?taskID=3420279name=build.log -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel
[Bug 741777] Bogus requires on perl-devel from perl-tk
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741777 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rc040...@freenet.de --- Comment #2 from Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de 2011-10-11 00:21:27 EDT --- (In reply to comment #0) Additional info: # rpm -e perl-devel perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker perl-Test-Harness perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker) is needed by (installed) perl-Tk-804.029-3.fc16.x86_64 So that's the perl module that need to be filtered I disagree - This would be a mistake. perl-Tk uses MakeMaker: # grep -R MakeMaker usr/ usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/Tk/MMutil.pm:use ExtUtils::MakeMaker; So, rpm is right to add a dependency on perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker). If versions on earlier Fedoras didn't, this would be a bug. I.e. if this dependency shall be removed, the appropriate step would be to move Tk/MMutil.pm into a subpackage. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel