Re: [Test-Announce] New Release Freeze Times

2020-02-25 Thread Thomas Moschny
Am Di., 25. Feb. 2020 um 20:37 Uhr schrieb Matthew Miller
:
> > Whereas with 12h clocks, I think midnight is 12:00 PM, and noon is 12:00
> > AM? Which is still confusing me after having known about it for decades.
>
> It's the opposite, which furthers your point. :)

That does not seem to be very clear:
https://www.npl.co.uk/resources/q-a/is-midnight-12am-or-12pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock#Confusion_at_noon_and_midnight

- Thomas
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Re: [Test-Announce] New Release Freeze Times

2020-02-25 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 11:06:30AM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> I assume 00:00 UTC was confusing for people used to the AM/PM (12h) time
> format instead of the 24h format.
> 
> For people used to 24h clocks, it's completely obvious that 00:00 is the
> beginning of the day, and 24:00 is the end of the day (= equivalent to
> 00:00 of the following day).
> 
> Whereas with 12h clocks, I think midnight is 12:00 PM, and noon is 12:00
> AM? Which is still confusing me after having known about it for decades.

It's the opposite, which furthers your point. :)



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Re: [Test-Announce] New Release Freeze Times

2020-02-22 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Sat, Feb 22, 2020, 10:47 Ralf Corsepius  wrote:

> On 2/20/20 8:04 PM, Mohan Boddu wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It has been brought to our attention that release freezes starting at
> > 00:00 UTC has been confusing for a lot of people. So, we decided to
> > change it to 14:00 UTC.
>
> This longs for an explanation.
>
> I fail to understand why 14:00 UTC should be less confusing than 00:00
> UTC. Seems like planless bikesheding to me.
>
> Ralf
>

I assume 00:00 UTC was confusing for people used to the AM/PM (12h) time
format instead of the 24h format.

For people used to 24h clocks, it's completely obvious that 00:00 is the
beginning of the day, and 24:00 is the end of the day (= equivalent to
00:00 of the following day).

Whereas with 12h clocks, I think midnight is 12:00 PM, and noon is 12:00
AM? Which is still confusing me after having known about it for decades.

Fabio

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Re: [Test-Announce] New Release Freeze Times

2020-02-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 2/20/20 8:04 PM, Mohan Boddu wrote:

Hi all,

It has been brought to our attention that release freezes starting at
00:00 UTC has been confusing for a lot of people. So, we decided to
change it to 14:00 UTC.


This longs for an explanation.

I fail to understand why 14:00 UTC should be less confusing than 00:00 
UTC. Seems like planless bikesheding to me.


Ralf
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