Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 12:17 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

 0) The autoqa note above. The maintainer could override that and push
 to testing. 

 2) F21 is currently in Alpha freeze. Only updates that fix accepted
 blockers or freeze exceptions go to stable. As far as I know, this
 update doesn't. Someone could propose one if they felt strongly about
 it. Failing that it's not going to go 'stable' until after Alpha is go. 

The maintainer can push the f20 package to stable if they want. The
AutoQA adjustment won't prevent that. It's just a safety to require a
manual check of the situation.

It would probably be reasonable to FE it into F21 too, but F20 doesn't
need to wait for that.
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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread Martin Stransky

On 09/08/2014 08:32 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Sun, 2014-09-07 at 12:17 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:


0) The autoqa note above. The maintainer could override that and push
to testing.



2) F21 is currently in Alpha freeze. Only updates that fix accepted
blockers or freeze exceptions go to stable. As far as I know, this
update doesn't. Someone could propose one if they felt strongly about
it. Failing that it's not going to go 'stable' until after Alpha is go.


The maintainer can push the f20 package to stable if they want. The
AutoQA adjustment won't prevent that. It's just a safety to require a
manual check of the situation.

It would probably be reasonable to FE it into F21 too, but F20 doesn't
need to wait for that.


Submitted to stable, sorry for that.
ma.


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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread quickbooks office
There are currently 208 Pending Updates
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F20/pending

On the left column it shows 112 pending updates.

I have never seen it go down to zero?

On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
 On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:24:58 +0200
 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:



 Am 07.09.2014 um 20:17 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
  On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:06:03 +0200
  Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 
  Am 07.09.2014 um 19:55 schrieb drago01:
  On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Reindl Harald
  h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
  there must be something wrong in the infrastructure
 
  * the update has more than enough karma
  * it's even not visible in updates-testing
 
  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-32.0-1.fc20,xulrunner-32.0-1.fc20,thunderbird-lightning-3.3-3.fc20,thunderbird-31.1.0-1.fc20
 
  So seems like its newer than either F21 and/or rawhide
 
  maybe
 
  but somebody should take action, these are security relevant
  updates deployed all over the plant including Android except Fedora
 
  There's several issues here:
 
  0) The autoqa note above. The maintainer could override that and
  push to testing.
 
  1) The update got karma to go stable before it was even pushed to
  testing, so it's not gone into testing.
 
  2) F21 is currently in Alpha freeze. Only updates that fix accepted
  blockers or freeze exceptions go to stable. As far as I know, this
  update doesn't. Someone could propose one if they felt strongly
  about it. Failing that it's not going to go 'stable' until after
  Alpha is go

 that's a Fedora 20 update and not relevant for F21 Alpha freeze

 Indeed. I misread. ;)

 But the reason for the autoqa failure was that the f21 update wasn't
 pushed due to freeze.

 In any case, the maintainer can submit to stable or testing as they
 like.

 kevin





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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread Rex Dieter
Kevin Fenzi wrote:

 0) The autoqa note above. The maintainer could override that and push
 to testing.
 
 1) The update got karma to go stable before it was even pushed to
 testing, so it's not gone into testing.

I think in the case of these 2 happening at the same time, I'd argue bodhi 
can handle this better:

* go ahead and push it to -testing, better than waiting not getting pushed 
anywhere

* possible policy change: require all updates to get pushed to -testing 
initially, regardless of karma


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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-08 Thread Andre Robatino
Rex Dieter rdieter at math.unl.edu writes:

 * go ahead and push it to -testing, better than waiting not getting pushed 
 anywhere

+1

 * possible policy change: require all updates to get pushed to -testing 
 initially, regardless of karma

If something needs urgent testing to get pushed to stable ASAP, this would
get in the way.




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Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-07 Thread Reindl Harald
there must be something wrong in the infrastructure

* the update has more than enough karma
* it's even not visible in updates-testing

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-32.0-1.fc20,xulrunner-32.0-1.fc20,thunderbird-lightning-3.3-3.fc20,thunderbird-31.1.0-1.fc20



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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-07 Thread drago01
On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 there must be something wrong in the infrastructure

 * the update has more than enough karma
 * it's even not visible in updates-testing

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-32.0-1.fc20,xulrunner-32.0-1.fc20,thunderbird-lightning-3.3-3.fc20,thunderbird-31.1.0-1.fc20

Automatic push to stable based on karma has been disabled for this
update due to failure of an AutoQA test. Update submitter, please
check the AutoQA test result and see if there is a valid problem to be
fixed here, and fix it if so. If the failure is a mistake on AutoQA's
part, you can re-enable the automatic push feature for this update if
you like, or push it stable manually once it reaches the requirements
under the Updates Policy. 

So seems like its newer than either F21 and/or rawhide.
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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-07 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 07.09.2014 um 19:55 schrieb drago01:
 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 there must be something wrong in the infrastructure

 * the update has more than enough karma
 * it's even not visible in updates-testing

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-32.0-1.fc20,xulrunner-32.0-1.fc20,thunderbird-lightning-3.3-3.fc20,thunderbird-31.1.0-1.fc20
 
 Automatic push to stable based on karma has been disabled for this
 update due to failure of an AutoQA test. Update submitter, please
 check the AutoQA test result and see if there is a valid problem to be
 fixed here, and fix it if so. If the failure is a mistake on AutoQA's
 part, you can re-enable the automatic push feature for this update if
 you like, or push it stable manually once it reaches the requirements
 under the Updates Policy. 
 
 So seems like its newer than either F21 and/or rawhide

maybe

but somebody should take action, these are security relevant updates
deployed all over the plant including Android except Fedora



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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:06:03 +0200
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:

 
 Am 07.09.2014 um 19:55 schrieb drago01:
  On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Reindl Harald
  h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
  there must be something wrong in the infrastructure
 
  * the update has more than enough karma
  * it's even not visible in updates-testing
 
  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-32.0-1.fc20,xulrunner-32.0-1.fc20,thunderbird-lightning-3.3-3.fc20,thunderbird-31.1.0-1.fc20
  
  Automatic push to stable based on karma has been disabled for this
  update due to failure of an AutoQA test. Update submitter, please
  check the AutoQA test result and see if there is a valid problem to
  be fixed here, and fix it if so. If the failure is a mistake on
  AutoQA's part, you can re-enable the automatic push feature for
  this update if you like, or push it stable manually once it reaches
  the requirements under the Updates Policy. 
  
  So seems like its newer than either F21 and/or rawhide
 
 maybe
 
 but somebody should take action, these are security relevant updates
 deployed all over the plant including Android except Fedora

There's several issues here: 

0) The autoqa note above. The maintainer could override that and push
to testing. 

1) The update got karma to go stable before it was even pushed to
testing, so it's not gone into testing. 

2) F21 is currently in Alpha freeze. Only updates that fix accepted
blockers or freeze exceptions go to stable. As far as I know, this
update doesn't. Someone could propose one if they felt strongly about
it. Failing that it's not going to go 'stable' until after Alpha is go. 

kevin


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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-07 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 07.09.2014 um 20:17 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
 On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:06:03 +0200
 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:

 Am 07.09.2014 um 19:55 schrieb drago01:
 On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Reindl Harald
 h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 there must be something wrong in the infrastructure

 * the update has more than enough karma
 * it's even not visible in updates-testing

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-32.0-1.fc20,xulrunner-32.0-1.fc20,thunderbird-lightning-3.3-3.fc20,thunderbird-31.1.0-1.fc20

 So seems like its newer than either F21 and/or rawhide

 maybe

 but somebody should take action, these are security relevant updates
 deployed all over the plant including Android except Fedora
 
 There's several issues here: 
 
 0) The autoqa note above. The maintainer could override that and push
 to testing. 
 
 1) The update got karma to go stable before it was even pushed to
 testing, so it's not gone into testing. 
 
 2) F21 is currently in Alpha freeze. Only updates that fix accepted
 blockers or freeze exceptions go to stable. As far as I know, this
 update doesn't. Someone could propose one if they felt strongly about
 it. Failing that it's not going to go 'stable' until after Alpha is go

that's a Fedora 20 update and not relevant for F21 Alpha freeze




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Re: Bodhi-Problem? - Firefox 32 / Thunderbird 31.1

2014-09-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:24:58 +0200
Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:

 
 
 Am 07.09.2014 um 20:17 schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
  On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 20:06:03 +0200
  Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 
  Am 07.09.2014 um 19:55 schrieb drago01:
  On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Reindl Harald
  h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
  there must be something wrong in the infrastructure
 
  * the update has more than enough karma
  * it's even not visible in updates-testing
 
  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/firefox-32.0-1.fc20,xulrunner-32.0-1.fc20,thunderbird-lightning-3.3-3.fc20,thunderbird-31.1.0-1.fc20
 
  So seems like its newer than either F21 and/or rawhide
 
  maybe
 
  but somebody should take action, these are security relevant
  updates deployed all over the plant including Android except Fedora
  
  There's several issues here: 
  
  0) The autoqa note above. The maintainer could override that and
  push to testing. 
  
  1) The update got karma to go stable before it was even pushed to
  testing, so it's not gone into testing. 
  
  2) F21 is currently in Alpha freeze. Only updates that fix accepted
  blockers or freeze exceptions go to stable. As far as I know, this
  update doesn't. Someone could propose one if they felt strongly
  about it. Failing that it's not going to go 'stable' until after
  Alpha is go
 
 that's a Fedora 20 update and not relevant for F21 Alpha freeze

Indeed. I misread. ;) 

But the reason for the autoqa failure was that the f21 update wasn't
pushed due to freeze. 

In any case, the maintainer can submit to stable or testing as they
like.

kevin






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