Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
Am 15.06.2011 08:55, schrieb Tomasz Torcz: > That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd > integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked > from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability > There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. ugly! maybe because they had the same problems as i now trying get a service for dbmail-imapd running, sometimes it starts and most times not, the start-commadn says NOTHING, starting with "service"-command is braindeaded and says always OK i was really happy after getting a perl-daemon running with a .service-file at the first attempt but some mintes later the smile was blown away maybe because i have no idea what the two follwoing lines from the sysv-script are doing nor how to get them in the .service-file but on the other hand if i fire the binary as root it starts, drops privileges and starts its childs - with systemd only sometimes DBLIBDIR=/usr/lib/dbmail export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$DBLIBDIR:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH and this state is ready to replace things worked 365/7/24 i fear not and it is killing my holidays [root@testserver:~]$ service dbmail-imapd start Starting dbmail-imapd (via systemctl): [ OK ] _ who did this? why is here "systemctl" called what is NOT working? [root@testserver:~]$ /etc/init.d/dbmail-imapd start Starting dbmail-imapd (via systemctl): [ OK ] _ [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ cat dbmail-imapd.service [Unit] Description=DBMail IMAP Server After=syslog.target mysqld.service local-fs.target network.target [Service] Type=forking PIDFile=/var/run/dbmail-imapd.pid ExecStart=/usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl status dbmail-imapd.service dbmail-imapd.service - DBMail IMAP Server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/dbmail-imapd.service) Active: inactive (dead) since Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:32:05 +0200; 6s ago Process: 3262 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 3263 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/dbmail-imapd.service [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl start dbmail-imapd.service [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl status dbmail-imapd.service dbmail-imapd.service - DBMail IMAP Server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/dbmail-imapd.service) Active: active (running) since Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:32:19 +0200; 2s ago Process: 3273 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 3275 (dbmail-imapd) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/dbmail-imapd.service ├ 3275 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd ├ 3276 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd └ 3278 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl stop dbmail-imapd.service [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl status dbmail-imapd.service dbmail-imapd.service - DBMail IMAP Server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/dbmail-imapd.service) Active: inactive (dead) since Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:32:53 +0200; 1s ago Process: 3273 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 3275 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/dbmail-imapd.service [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl start dbmail-imapd.service [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl status dbmail-imapd.service dbmail-imapd.service - DBMail IMAP Server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/dbmail-imapd.service) Active: deactivating (stop-sigterm) since Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:33:01 +0200; 1s ago Process: 3287 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 3288 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/dbmail-imapd.service ├ 3289 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd ├ 3290 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd └ 3292 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl status dbmail-imapd.service dbmail-imapd.service - DBMail IMAP Server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/dbmail-imapd.service) Active: deactivating (stop-sigterm) since Thu, 16 Jun 2011 01:33:01 +0200; 2s ago Process: 3287 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 3288 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) CGroup: name=systemd:/system/dbmail-imapd.service ├ 3289 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd ├ 3290 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd └ 3292 /usr/sbin/dbmail-imapd [root@testserver:/lib/systemd/system]$ systemctl status dbmail-imapd.service dbmail-imapd.service - DBMail IMAP Server Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/dbmail-imapd.
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
2011/6/15 Vratislav Podzimek : > On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 09:54 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> Hi, >> >> 2011/6/15 Petr Pisar : >> > On 2011-06-15, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >>> playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services >> >>> are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and >> >>> fpr dovecot i am not sure >> >> >> >> That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd >> >> integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked >> >> from: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability >> >> There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. >> >> >> > Beacuse specification how to do it was released one week before F15. >> >> This of course did not prevent the part of developers in delivering >> systemd services for F15. > What is the purpose of this discussion? The main point is: "let's make > it better in F16+ releases!". Yeah, sure. That's why I like this feature :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd > > Vrata Podzimek > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 09:54 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > 2011/6/15 Petr Pisar : > > On 2011-06-15, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >>> playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services > >>> are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and > >>> fpr dovecot i am not sure > >> > >> That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd > >> integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked > >> from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability > >> There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. > >> > > Beacuse specification how to do it was released one week before F15. > > This of course did not prevent the part of developers in delivering > systemd services for F15. What is the purpose of this discussion? The main point is: "let's make it better in F16+ releases!". Vrata Podzimek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
Hi, 2011/6/15 Petr Pisar : > On 2011-06-15, Tomasz Torcz wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services >>> are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and >>> fpr dovecot i am not sure >> >> That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd >> integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked >> from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability >> There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. >> > Beacuse specification how to do it was released one week before F15. This of course did not prevent the part of developers in delivering systemd services for F15. > > -- Petr > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
On 2011-06-15, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services >> are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and >> fpr dovecot i am not sure > > That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd > integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked > from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability > There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. > Beacuse specification how to do it was released one week before F15. -- Petr -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services > are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and > fpr dovecot i am not sure That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. > what is a little bit confusing is how to find out > what is enabled in which order, how to change and that > "chkconfig | grep on" lists only a subset of services There's no “order” per se on systemd. Services are started as they're needed. > "systemctl" gives ahughe list mixed mounted disks > and servcices and compared with a stripped down > F14 there are running much more stuff with a hughe > longer boot process :-( try “systemctl -t service” > conclusion: i am really missing anything making "chkconfig" able display > all services and only them as followed, and yes this is really enough for > a stripped down fileserver as vmware-guest > > [root@fileserver:~]$ chkconfig | grep Ein > auditd 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > crond 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > lvm2-monitor0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > messagebus 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > netatalk0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > network 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > postfix 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > rsyslog 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > smb 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > sshd0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > udev-post 0:Aus 1:Ein 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > vmtoolsd0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus > Something like “systemctl show -p Wants default.target”? -- Tomasz TorczThere exists no separation between gods and men: xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl one blends softly casual into the other. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F15: most services sysvinit only?
playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and fpr dovecot i am not sure * dbmail (pop3, imap, timesieved, lmtp) * postfix * postgrey * mysqld what is a little bit confusing is how to find out what is enabled in which order, how to change and that "chkconfig | grep on" lists only a subset of services "systemctl" gives ahughe list mixed mounted disks and servcices and compared with a stripped down F14 there are running much more stuff with a hughe longer boot process :-( conclusion: i am really missing anything making "chkconfig" able display all services and only them as followed, and yes this is really enough for a stripped down fileserver as vmware-guest [root@fileserver:~]$ chkconfig | grep Ein auditd 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus crond 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus lvm2-monitor0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus messagebus 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus netatalk0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus network 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus postfix 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus rsyslog 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus smb 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus sshd0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus udev-post 0:Aus 1:Ein 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus vmtoolsd0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
