Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-12 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 06/03/2013 alle 12.51 +, Richard W.M. Jones ha
scritto:
> > Upgrading to Fedora 19 is not good for end users.
> 
> That's rather negative.  We want to encourage testers.
> 
> I would suggest to the original poster:

Thank Richard! your instructions is what I'm looking for.

Thanks!

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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 08:27:50PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> I don't suggest you doing that.
> 
> Upgrading to Fedora 19 is not good for end users.

That's rather negative.  We want to encourage testers.

I would suggest to the original poster:

(1) Create a Fedora 18 virtual machine.

(2) In the VM, do:

  yum install fedora-release-rawhide

(3) Edit (in the VM) /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-rawhide.repo and
change enabled=0 to enabled=1 in the first section.

(4) In the VM:

  yum update

(5) Reboot the VM.

(6) Connect to the VM with virt-viewer and run virt-viewer full
screen.  With any luck you'll now be testing GNOME whatever in
Fedora 19!  Remember to file bugs.

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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:56:28 +0100
Dario Lesca  wrote:

> Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 15.26 +0100, Antonio ha scritto:
> > Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum or use FedUp.
> 
> Ok, thanks.
> 

See: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide

IMHO, we should drop the scare mongering and provide people interested
in rawhide with facts to decide themselves. ;) 

Are you someone who: 

- Likes lots of updates? (rawhide gets hundreds every single day)

- Good at troubleshooting when things go wrong? 

Rawhide has breakage from time to time. I don't find it to be all that
bad these days, but there are times when things break, and you will
have to look at what updated, see if downgrading works, and gather
information to file bugs. In some cases you may have to work around a
bug or problem until it's fixed. 

- Likes to figure out, or is at least not bothered by interface changes?

Since rawhide gets new versions of things, interfaces change. Do you
mind looking around your mail program to see where a feature you used
has gone, do you mind having to re-learn / figure out new software all
the time?

One way to try things out is to run rawhide in a vm of some kind. That
would get you a feel for the rate of change and issues with the stack
of packages you use normally. 

Good luck, and do report any rawhide issues here or test list or
bugzilla. 

kevin


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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 15.26 +0100, Antonio ha scritto:
> Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum or use FedUp.

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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Antonio
On Tue 05 Mar 2013 02:21:53 PM CET, Dario Lesca wrote:
> There is a official way to do this?
>
> Thanks
>

At this point you shouldn't ask either if "an official way exists or 
not".
That makes no sense, creating "an official method" to do something that 
you shouldn't do.

Probably, after an upgrade to Fedora 19, you risk to don't see Gnome 
3.7 either.
If you want go however, you can read a NOT recommended method to 
upgrade Fedora  ( 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum) or use FedUp.


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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 13.30 +0100, Christoph Wickert ha
scritto:
> If you don't know how to do this, you probably shouldn't do it.
... or learn to do (I'm a Human, from Earth, Italy).

There is a official way to do this?

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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 07.36 -0500, Jaroslav Reznik ha scritto:
> - Original Message -
> > Am Dienstag, den 05.03.2013, 13:23 +0100 schrieb Dario Lesca:
> > > Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 19.33 +0800, Liang Suilong ha
> > > scritto:
> > > > Please upgrade to Fedora 19.
> > > 
> > > Thank Liang, someone can tell to me what is the best way to upgrade
> > > my
> > > Fedora 18 x86_64 to F19?
> > 
> > If you don't know how to do this, you probably shouldn't do it. Both
> > Fedora 19 and GNOME 3.7 are development releases. Better wait for the
> > final release which will then be called GNOME 3.8. and be available
> > with
> > Fedora 19.
> 
> Or at least, wait for Fedora 19 Alpha, which should land in the second
> half of April. Fedora 19 is even not yet branched from Rawhide.

Ok, ... will wait F19 Alpha and test GNOME live image 
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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Olav Vitters
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 12:28:51PM +0100, Dario Lesca wrote:
> There is some way to test new version of gnome on Fedora 18?
> Thanks

The GNOME live image is currently based on Fedora (without the
branding). So you could copy this to some USB stick and test that:

http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/misc/testing/


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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
> Am Dienstag, den 05.03.2013, 13:23 +0100 schrieb Dario Lesca:
> > Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 19.33 +0800, Liang Suilong ha
> > scritto:
> > > Please upgrade to Fedora 19.
> > 
> > Thank Liang, someone can tell to me what is the best way to upgrade
> > my
> > Fedora 18 x86_64 to F19?
> 
> If you don't know how to do this, you probably shouldn't do it. Both
> Fedora 19 and GNOME 3.7 are development releases. Better wait for the
> final release which will then be called GNOME 3.8. and be available
> with
> Fedora 19.

Or at least, wait for Fedora 19 Alpha, which should land in the second
half of April. Fedora 19 is even not yet branched from Rawhide.

Another possibility is to find interested people and create side repo
as KDE SIG does with the latest KDE bits.

Jaroslav

> 
> Kind regards,
> Christoph
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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 05.03.2013, 13:23 +0100 schrieb Dario Lesca:
> Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 19.33 +0800, Liang Suilong ha scritto:
> > Please upgrade to Fedora 19.
> 
> Thank Liang, someone can tell to me what is the best way to upgrade my
> Fedora 18 x86_64 to F19? 

If you don't know how to do this, you probably shouldn't do it. Both
Fedora 19 and GNOME 3.7 are development releases. Better wait for the
final release which will then be called GNOME 3.8. and be available with
Fedora 19.

Kind regards,
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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Christopher Meng
I don't suggest you doing that.

Upgrading to Fedora 19 is not good for end users.



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2013/3/5 Dario Lesca 

> Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 19.33 +0800, Liang Suilong ha scritto:
> > Please upgrade to Fedora 19.
>
> Thank Liang, someone can tell to me what is the best way to upgrade my
> Fedora 18 x86_64 to F19?
>
> Many thanks
>
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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 05/03/2013 alle 19.33 +0800, Liang Suilong ha scritto:
> Please upgrade to Fedora 19.

Thank Liang, someone can tell to me what is the best way to upgrade my
Fedora 18 x86_64 to F19? 

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Re: Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Liang Suilong
No.

Please upgrade to Fedora 19.

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On Mar 5, 2013 7:29 PM, "Dario Lesca"  wrote:

> There is some way to test new version of gnome on Fedora 18?
> Thanks
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Fedora 18 and new version of Gnome (3.7.x)

2013-03-05 Thread Dario Lesca
There is some way to test new version of gnome on Fedora 18?
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