Re: [fedora-arm] Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2023-10-25 at 20:51 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 7:33 PM Adam Williamson
>  wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 2023-10-25 at 22:02 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 04:55:57PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > 6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW: anyone at
> > > > all to come up with a genius fix, otherwise we'll likely have to
> > > > document this
> > > 
> > > Happy to oblige ;--]
> > 
> > Genius located! Thanks, Zbigniew :)
> 
> Be careful of this solution. Time functions were formerly returning an
> error until the RTC was set to an accurate time. The new behavior is
> to return a fake/incorrect time without an error. I don't think it's a
> good idea to misreport something time system wide without error.
> 
> You might want to consider other ways to get beyond signature checks
> that are less intrusive, and not system wide.

There isn't any new behaviour. We're just doing a new systemd build for
F38 so the already-existing behaviour (set the clock to the time the
package was built) will give a later time than previously.
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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2023-10-25 at 22:02 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 04:55:57PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > 6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW: anyone at
> > all to come up with a genius fix, otherwise we'll likely have to
> > document this
> 
> Happy to oblige ;--]

Genius located! Thanks, Zbigniew :)
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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-25 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 04:55:57PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW: anyone at
> all to come up with a genius fix, otherwise we'll likely have to
> document this

Happy to oblige ;--]

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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 16:56 Adam Williamson  wrote:

> We're still kinda kicking around ideas for "fixing" this, but I think
> if push comes to shove, we'll wind up revoting or waiving it as not
> practically fixable.

How about something of the form of an ExecStartPre expression
(or script) that tests the date and if less than then (say) 2023-01-01
sets the date to the expected release date of F39 (via timedatectl)?
Not quite right, but it would likely pass the gpg tests  It can
(hopefully) be replaced by something better in the future.
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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 4:08 PM Chris Adams  wrote:

> Certainly - I was just looking for a more general solution to non-RTC
> systems going forward.  Ideally, there could be something triggered by a
> lack of an RTC, but it looks like systemd path units cannot work based
> on a path (e.g. /dev/rtc) _not_ existing.  That's unfortunate, that
> would make it easy.

I believe negation works (not tested) as in:

 ConditionPathExists=!/dev/rtc
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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Gary Buhrmaster  said:
> Personally, I have been using systemd-timesyncd for
> quite some time on the vast majority of my systems
> and am quite satisfied with it, but I believe that
> changing from chrony to systemd-timesyncd was
> considered too big of a last minute change since
> we are in the final blocker stage of a release.

Certainly - I was just looking for a more general solution to non-RTC
systems going forward.  Ideally, there could be something triggered by a
lack of an RTC, but it looks like systemd path units cannot work based
on a path (e.g. /dev/rtc) _not_ existing.  That's unfortunate, that
would make it easy.

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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 8:12 AM Adam Williamson
 wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2023-10-21 at 11:34 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 08:40:43PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > > Once upon a time, Adam Williamson  said:
> > > > 6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW
> > > > dnf system-upgrade fails on some RPi4 due to system boot date that pre-
> > > > dates gpg key
> > > >
> > > > We're still kinda kicking around ideas for "fixing" this, but I think
> > > > if push comes to shove, we'll wind up revoting or waiving it as not
> > > > practically fixable.
> > >
> > > Not adding to the ticket (because "me too" is not useful there), but...
> > > I think Fedora should include SOME type of "fake hwclock"-type thing for
> > > systems with no RTC (make a systemd service depend on /dev/rtc not
> > > existing?), as other RPi-targeted distros do.  This isn't RPi-specific,
> > > a number of the small boards have no RTC.  I do typically add an RTC to
> > > my Pis, but not always (for various reasons).
> >
> >   We already have systemd-timesyncd. On startup, it syncs the time to
> > the mtime of:
> > - /var/lib/systemd/timesync/clock file; or
> > - /usr/lib/clock-epoch file; or
> > - a time derived from the source tree at build time
> >
> > timesyncd is mentioned in the bug, but I didn't read everything.
>
> There are several ways we could certainly address the bug going
> forward. Say, starting with a Fedora 40 Change. But it seems less clear
> how we could safely fix it for upgrades from F37 or F38 to F39, without
> pushing a level of change that is inappropriate for a stable release.

Could we initialize the time with the timestamp of the initrd and then
update the timestamp to the current time after that? That should work
around this specific problem, I think?




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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2023-10-21 at 11:34 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 08:40:43PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Adam Williamson  said:
> > > 6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW
> > > dnf system-upgrade fails on some RPi4 due to system boot date that pre-
> > > dates gpg key
> > > 
> > > We're still kinda kicking around ideas for "fixing" this, but I think
> > > if push comes to shove, we'll wind up revoting or waiving it as not
> > > practically fixable.
> > 
> > Not adding to the ticket (because "me too" is not useful there), but...
> > I think Fedora should include SOME type of "fake hwclock"-type thing for
> > systems with no RTC (make a systemd service depend on /dev/rtc not
> > existing?), as other RPi-targeted distros do.  This isn't RPi-specific,
> > a number of the small boards have no RTC.  I do typically add an RTC to
> > my Pis, but not always (for various reasons).
> 
>   We already have systemd-timesyncd. On startup, it syncs the time to
> the mtime of:
> - /var/lib/systemd/timesync/clock file; or
> - /usr/lib/clock-epoch file; or
> - a time derived from the source tree at build time
> 
> timesyncd is mentioned in the bug, but I didn't read everything.

There are several ways we could certainly address the bug going
forward. Say, starting with a Fedora 40 Change. But it seems less clear
how we could safely fix it for upgrades from F37 or F38 to F39, without
pushing a level of change that is inappropriate for a stable release.
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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 9:35 AM Tomasz Torcz  wrote:

>   We already have systemd-timesyncd. On startup, it syncs the time to
> the mtime of:
> - /var/lib/systemd/timesync/clock file; or
> - /usr/lib/clock-epoch file; or
> - a time derived from the source tree at build time
>
> timesyncd is mentioned in the bug, but I didn't read everything.

Personally, I have been using systemd-timesyncd for
quite some time on the vast majority of my systems
and am quite satisfied with it, but I believe that
changing from chrony to systemd-timesyncd was
considered too big of a last minute change since
we are in the final blocker stage of a release.

I believe that a change proposal (for F40) to change
to systemd-timesyncd, or fake-hwclock (or some
other agreed upon solution) by default should be
created so the non-RTC systems will work properly
at future upgrades (converting existing systems
from chrony to systemd-timesyncd can be
complicated if the systems has modified the
default chrony config or is not a (pure) client,
so that may only be a longer term fix).
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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-21 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 08:40:43PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Adam Williamson  said:
> > 6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW
> > dnf system-upgrade fails on some RPi4 due to system boot date that pre-
> > dates gpg key
> > 
> > We're still kinda kicking around ideas for "fixing" this, but I think
> > if push comes to shove, we'll wind up revoting or waiving it as not
> > practically fixable.
> 
> Not adding to the ticket (because "me too" is not useful there), but...
> I think Fedora should include SOME type of "fake hwclock"-type thing for
> systems with no RTC (make a systemd service depend on /dev/rtc not
> existing?), as other RPi-targeted distros do.  This isn't RPi-specific,
> a number of the small boards have no RTC.  I do typically add an RTC to
> my Pis, but not always (for various reasons).

  We already have systemd-timesyncd. On startup, it syncs the time to
the mtime of:
- /var/lib/systemd/timesync/clock file; or
- /usr/lib/clock-epoch file; or
- a time derived from the source tree at build time

timesyncd is mentioned in the bug, but I didn't read everything.

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Re: Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-20 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Williamson  said:
> 6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW
> dnf system-upgrade fails on some RPi4 due to system boot date that pre-
> dates gpg key
> 
> We're still kinda kicking around ideas for "fixing" this, but I think
> if push comes to shove, we'll wind up revoting or waiving it as not
> practically fixable.

Not adding to the ticket (because "me too" is not useful there), but...
I think Fedora should include SOME type of "fake hwclock"-type thing for
systems with no RTC (make a systemd service depend on /dev/rtc not
existing?), as other RPi-targeted distros do.  This isn't RPi-specific,
a number of the small boards have no RTC.  I do typically add an RTC to
my Pis, but not always (for various reasons).

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Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #3

2023-10-20 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! We're still trying to get F39 done, so time for another
status update...

Action summary
==

Accepted blockers
-

1. kexec-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243068 - VERIFIED: releng
to push the fix stable

2. mutter - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241632 - ASSIGNED: desktop
team (and adamwill) to keep trying to come up with a fix

3. shim - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113005 - NEW: assume this will
be waived

4. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241252 - ASSIGNED: ARM
team (pbrobinson) to fix it

5. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2244305 - ASSIGNED: ARM
team to evaluate and fix if possible, ARM/QA to test on more systems if
possible

6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW: anyone at
all to come up with a genius fix, otherwise we'll likely have to
document this


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. kexec-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243068 - VERIFIED
kdump is enabled by default on desktops

This is basically fixed, just waiting to be pushed stable.

2. mutter - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241632 - ASSIGNED
Netinstall ISO renders a black screen when using kickstart install
(bare metal and VM)

Well, we kinda had a fix for this, but it turns out to break something
even worse (now anaconda isn't visible on the Workstation live image).
So we're still stuck trying to find a perfect fix, unfortunately.
Desktop team plus me to keep cranking away on it.

3. shim - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113005 - NEW
Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to
boot on some boards

Let's just assume this is gonna be waived.

4. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241252 - ASSIGNED
Fedora-Workstation-39_Beta-1.1 boots to a black screen on Raspberry Pi
4

Peter says "So we've basically got to the bottom of the problem and
worked out the issue, I now just need to come up with a fix.", so
that's what we're waiting on.

5. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2244305 - ASSIGNED
Fedora Server 39 does not boot on Raspberry Pi 4 (RPi4) from microSD
card slot

This one's also waiting on ARM team (i.e. Peter), but seems somewhat
less clear-cut of a blocker, so we're kinda waiting for his take on
that, plus testing from other Raspberry Pi owners would be useful.

6. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW
dnf system-upgrade fails on some RPi4 due to system boot date that pre-
dates gpg key

We're still kinda kicking around ideas for "fixing" this, but I think
if push comes to shove, we'll wind up revoting or waiving it as not
practically fixable.
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Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary #2

2023-10-14 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! We're still trying to get F39 done, so time for another
status update...

Action summary
==

Accepted blockers
-

1. curl - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243182 - ON_QA: QA to test and
karma https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-0f8d1871d8

2. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243034 - ASSIGNED:
maintainers to try and squeeze out any possible space savings, FESCo to
consider https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3082

3. ghostscript - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241112 - ON_QA: QA to
test and karma
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-c2665a9ff3

4. initial-setup - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241274 - ON_QA: QA (and
pwhalen, who reported the bug) to test and karma
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-133bdc4283

5. mutter - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241632 - ASSIGNED: desktop
team to investigate and fix, now this is well triaged

6. shim - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113005 - NEW: stakeholders to
consider waiving again at go/no-go

7. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241252 - ASSIGNED: ARM
team to investigate and fix

8. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW:
stakeholders to consider whether any 'fix' is realistic, implement if
so


Proposed blockers
-

1. anaconda - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243206 - POST: blocker
voters to vote, anaconda team to fix if accepted


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. curl - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243182 - ON_QA
CVE-2023-38545 curl: a heap based buffer overflow in the SOCKS5 proxy
handshake [fedora-all]

The fix for this is in updates-testing and just needs testing and
karma.

2. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243034 - ASSIGNED
Fedora 39: Server boot aarch64 image exceeds maximum size

This image is oversize because of increases in the size of qualcomm
firmware. (The sizes of aarch64 and x86_64 images differ somewhat
because they include different firmware packages; x86_64 is fine ATM).
We can't drop the new firmware files (says pbrobinson) and I couldn't
see any obvious other place to save 6M when I looked at this. In any
case, the 700M size limit makes no practical sense for aarch64 (700M is
set as the limit because it's the size of a CD; hands up if you have an
aarch64 device with a CD-but-not-DVD drive!), and we are probably
reaching the limits of its usefulness as a protection against "bloat",
since linux-firmware is constantly increasing in size even if we don't
introduce any new "bloat" to the installer environment. So I've
proposed https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3082 to bump the size limit to
1G for the aarch64 image at least. If FESCo goes for that proposal,
this would be addressed.

3. ghostscript - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241112 - ON_QA
CVE-2023-43115 ghostscript: GhostPDL can lead to remote code execution
via crafted PostScript documents [fedora-all]

The fix for this is in updates-testing and just needs testing and
karma.

4. initial-setup - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241274 - ON_QA
initial-setup text fails on hardware

The fix for this is in updates-testing and just needs testing and
karma. Especially it'd be great if pwhalen could test and confirm as he
reported the issue.

5. mutter - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241632 - ASSIGNED
Netinstall ISO renders a black screen when using kickstart install
(bare metal and VM)

I've managed to narrow this down to a specific mutter pull request
which caused the problem, and found a small change (discovered by
someone from upstream to address a different symptom) that avoids this
bug. Now up to the desktop team to decide what the best real fix is.

6. shim - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113005 - NEW
Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to
boot on some boards

Sadly we will probably have to waive this one more time, at this point
in the cycle it's not realistic to start backporting kernel changes.

7. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241252 - ASSIGNED
Fedora-Workstation-39_Beta-1.1 boots to a black screen on Raspberry Pi
4

pbrobinson has said he's working on this, unless anyone else expert in
uboot-tools stuff wants to help, not much more to be done.

8. distribution - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242759 - NEW
dnf system-upgrade fails on some RPi4 due to system boot date that pre-
dates gpg key

We seem to have developed a pretty good understanding of this one now,
but based on that understanding, it may not be realistically possible
to "fix" it - the only interventions proposed so far that might "fix"
it seem rather too radical to introduce as updates to a stable release
(F38), which is where they'd have to go. Unless anyone has a bright
idea, we might just have to accept that this isn't realistically
fixable and waive it to be addressed with documentation.


Proposed blockers
-

1. anaconda - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2243206 - POST
anaconda should allow installa

Fedora Linux 39 Final blocker status summary

2023-10-06 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi folks! We're into Final freeze, so it's time for a blocker status
mail. The current Final target date is 2023-10-17, meaning we'd need a
release candidate by, er, Monday, so get your skates on everyone :)

Action summary
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Accepted blockers
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1. anaconda - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2239213 - MODIFIED: anaconda
team to submit update with fix

2. anaconda - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241632 - ASSIGNED: anaconda
team to work out a fix and submit an update with it

3. fedora-release - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242437 - POST:
sgallagh (or me/Kevin) to merge PRs and do builds

4. firefox - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242454 - MODIFIED: adamwill
to submit update when the build is done

5. firefox - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242523 - NEW: adamwill to
submit update when the build is done

6. initial-setup - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241274 - POST: mkolman
to merge the fix and do a build/update

7. kernel - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2240859 - MODIFIED: QA to
test/karma
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-c3bb819677

8. mesa - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2238711 - ON_QA: QA to test/karma
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-86e10b6cae

9. mutter - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2239128 - MODIFIED: QA to
test/karma
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-fd2feee3b7

10. shim - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113005 - NEW: Maintainers
(kraxel / jforbes / pbrobinson) to clarify if there's any chance to get
the kernel stuff backported and a new shim built for F39, otherwise
we'll have to waive this again

11. uboot-tools - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241252 - ASSIGNED:
maintainers to investigate and fix

12. xdg-desktop-portal - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2240211 -
VERIFIED: QA to test and karma
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-a34ccfc45b


Proposed blockers
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1. blivet-gui - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241761 - MODIFIED: QA to
test/karma
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-e9198d932d

2. kbd - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242287 - MODIFIED: QA to
test/karma
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-fa617966c7

3. kernel - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2239807 - NEW: stakeholders to
vote at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1359 ,
reporter to check if 6.5.6 happens to fix it

4. librepo - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242115 - POST: stakeholders
to vote at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1375 ,
jrohel to build an update with the fix


Bug-by-bug detail
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Accepted blockers
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1. anaconda - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2239213 - MODIFIED
anaconda should use localed layout conversion when setting default console 
layout

We just need anaconda team to merge the fix for this and do a build.

2. anaconda - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241632 - ASSIGNED
Netinstall ISO renders a black screen when using kickstart install (bare metal 
and VM)

Anaconda team is working on figuring out the cause of this at present.

3. fedora-release - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242437 - POST
updates-testing should be disabled, fedora-release should have release >= 1

This is trivial and just needs a couple of merges/builds, I guess Kevin
and I are giving the official maintainers time but if it isn't done
soon we'll do it.

4. firefox - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242454 - MODIFIED
DBusActivatable is not implemented correctly

The build to fix this is running right now, then I need to submit an
update.

5. firefox - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2242523 - NEW
Too many firefox launchers are preinstalled

Same as #4.

6. initial-setup - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2241274 - POST
initial-setup text fails on hardware

There's a PR that's confirmed to fix this, we just need it merged and
an official build done.

7. kernel - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2240859 - MODIFIED
amdgpu crash: kernel 6.5.x  ([drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring 
gfx_low timeout)

The update that should fix this is created:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-c3bb819677 . Just
need folks to test and karma it.

8. mesa - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2238711 - ON_QA
GDM crashes on Intel Iris Plus graphics - crash in gnome-shell 
cogl_gl_create_timestamp_query

Update is in testing:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-86e10b6cae . Just
needs karma.

9. mutter - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2239128 - MODIFIED
pop-up screen is stuck when try to  format a partition

Update is created:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-fd2feee3b7 . Just
needs testing and karma.

10. shim - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2113005 - NEW
Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to boot on 
some boards

This is the infamous one that we've been waiving for several releases
due to the lack of nx support in the kernel meaning we can't get a new
shim signed by Microsoft, even though we know the fix for the bug. The
kernel p