Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Qui, 2012-12-06 at 09:33 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 12/05/2012 09:06 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Tried running it on a system with a bunch of stuff from rpmfusion yet, for instance? Yes. Hi, The wiki page Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum have instructions that we should know and do, in every type of upgrade . https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#3._Clean_Stuff we should do this in any case . and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#6._Preparing_for_reboot this link in others method of upgrades should be in case of boot fails and btw how prepare a rescue mode: http://www.serjux.com/freedos_boot/Create-a-bootable-rescue.txt Other thing, that could be not ready for F18 release, but is important in my point of view is fedup-cli works on F16 ... Thanks, -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On 12/05/2012 09:06 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Tried running it on a system with a bunch of stuff from rpmfusion yet, for instance? Yes. -- Miroslav Suchy Red Hat Systems Management Engineering -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Tue, 2012-12-04 at 11:14 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 11/29/2012 05:47 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade Try scripted version of yum-upgrade, where all possible hick-ups should be addressed: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade I'd be wary about over-promising if I were you. Scripting the stuff in the upgrading_with_yum guide is nice and all, but it hardly counts as addressing 'all possible hick-ups'. Tried running it on a system with a bunch of stuff from rpmfusion yet, for instance? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On 12/04/2012 10:43 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: bah shell script !? , why don't you do it in python ? Because in python it would be longer and more complicated. For example 'set -e' saved me lots of if-loop and exceptions handling. And I wanted to have requirements very minimal. While bash has some limits, I did not even approached those limits and I do not expect it will limit me in near future. -- Miroslav Suchy Red Hat Systems Management Engineering -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On 11/29/2012 05:47 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade Try scripted version of yum-upgrade, where all possible hick-ups should be addressed: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade -- Miroslav Suchy Red Hat Systems Management Engineering -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Ter, 2012-12-04 at 11:14 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote: On 11/29/2012 05:47 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade basically , I spend many hours to update it :) Try scripted version of yum-upgrade, where all possible hick-ups should be addressed: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade bah shell script !? , why don't you do it in python ? Thanks, -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
Il giorno ven, 30/11/2012 alle 19.56 -0800, Adam Williamson ha scritto: If it says 'Loading System Upgrade' then you appear to be still running the fedup boot entry, not the one for the upgraded system? I want run the fedup boot entry, to upgraded my system. But many time the boot process do not ask me for pass-phrase, and some time, when it ask pass-phrase the system boot, but after few second reboot without upgrade. -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 17 Gnome3) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
Il giorno ven, 30/11/2012 alle 06.16 +, Sérgio Basto ha scritto: On Qui, 2012-11-29 at 12:28 -0700, Tim Flink wrote: Sounds like a plan, hopefully it won't be too difficult to figure out. I was just out of space in Hard Disk, correctly writes package foo needs 100M etc But should end with a nice message saying you need free space of your disk before upgrade Hi Sérgio, filing a bug report for this problem may be a good idea! Thanks, Nicola -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
Il giorno gio, 29/11/2012 alle 17.21 +, Frank Murphy ha scritto: I used fedup earlier today, to successfully upgrade from F17+ 3rd Party repos to F18 as described here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp My f17 test system, on a kvm/qemu virtual machine, is install into a LVM encrypted partition. I have update via fedup with URL file:///mnt/cdrom/, where the cdrom is Fedora-18-Beta-i386-DVD.iso. All fedup process work fine, fedup ended with: testing upgrade transaction rpm transaction 100% [=] rpm install 100% [=] setting up system for upgrade Finished. Reboot to start upgrade. But after reboot, the system wont start, even if I use the old f17 grub2 kernel entry. The boot process is stop after the: Loading System Upgrade Loading initial ramdisk ... and the pass-phrase is not requested If I goto with a rescue CD Fedora 17, the pass-phrase is required and the disk mount under /mnt/sysimage correctly. After many and many reboot (only simple reboot without modification) finally the system request the pass-phrase and seems start. But after few second the machine reboot.. (I have record a video for this phase, if it's useful I can send it) Is this a know problem? There is some method to debug what's happening ? Some suggest? Many thanks -- Dario Lesca - sip:da...@solinos.it (Inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 17 Gnome3) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 16:52 +0100, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno gio, 29/11/2012 alle 17.21 +, Frank Murphy ha scritto: I used fedup earlier today, to successfully upgrade from F17+ 3rd Party repos to F18 as described here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp My f17 test system, on a kvm/qemu virtual machine, is install into a LVM encrypted partition. I have update via fedup with URL file:///mnt/cdrom/, where the cdrom is Fedora-18-Beta-i386-DVD.iso. All fedup process work fine, fedup ended with: testing upgrade transaction rpm transaction 100% [=] rpm install 100% [=] setting up system for upgrade Finished. Reboot to start upgrade. But after reboot, the system wont start, even if I use the old f17 grub2 kernel entry. The boot process is stop after the: Loading System Upgrade Loading initial ramdisk ... and the pass-phrase is not requested If I goto with a rescue CD Fedora 17, the pass-phrase is required and the disk mount under /mnt/sysimage correctly. After many and many reboot (only simple reboot without modification) finally the system request the pass-phrase and seems start. But after few second the machine reboot.. (I have record a video for this phase, if it's useful I can send it) Is this a know problem? There is some method to debug what's happening ? Some suggest? If it says 'Loading System Upgrade' then you appear to be still running the fedup boot entry, not the one for the upgraded system? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
I want upgrade my computer
Hi, I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want upgrade to F18 Beta . 1 - Try Preupgrade but No preupgrade for F17-F18 ? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-August/109441.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/173805.html Why this was disabled And what happen if I ignore preupgrade-ok=False 2 - boot.iso, no boot.iso on http://mirrors.eu.kernel.org/fedora/development/18/x86_64/os/images/ I try one boot.iso from F18 Beta RC1 and understand why is not there , because doesn't work . 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade 5- Live iso don't have option to upgrade So what you advise me to upgrade my systems ? Thanks in advance -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On 11/29/2012 04:47 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade I had two machines updated using yum and although it is not a recommended it worked without any problems. Before going that route you should take a look into https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum?rd=YumUpgradeFaq On a humorous note citing bad memories from FC2 seems a really _outdated_ excuse. :-) Regards, -- José Matos -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 16:47:16 +, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . You probably should rebort this as a bug. 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade So what you advise me to upgrade my systems ? Either use yum or wait for a bug fix for your issue with fedup. (Note that if you don't file a bug, it is less likely to get fixed.) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On 11/29/2012 05:47 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote: Hi, I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want upgrade to F18 Beta . 1 - Try Preupgrade but No preupgrade for F17-F18 ? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-August/109441.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/173805.html Why this was disabled And what happen if I ignore preupgrade-ok=False 2 - boot.iso, no boot.iso on http://mirrors.eu.kernel.org/fedora/development/18/x86_64/os/images/ I try one boot.iso from F18 Beta RC1 and understand why is not there , because doesn't work . 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . 4- use yum but I have bad memories from FC2 about use yum for upgrade 5- Live iso don't have option to upgrade So what you advise me to upgrade my systems ? I had pretty good success last week (Before F18 Beta) trying the procedure described on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 Some small hick-ups, but nothing really serious. Ralf -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:47:16 + Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: Hi, I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want upgrade to F18 Beta . 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . I used fedup earlier today, to successfully upgrade from F17+ 3rd Party repos to F18 as described here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:47:16 + Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: Hi, I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want upgrade to F18 Beta . 1 - Try Preupgrade but No preupgrade for F17-F18 ? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-August/109441.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/173805.html Why this was disabled And what happen if I ignore preupgrade-ok=False Yeah, preupgrade won't work at all for 17 - 18. At some point before release, the preupgrade package should be obsoleted in F17+ but that hasn't happened yet. 2 - boot.iso, no boot.iso on http://mirrors.eu.kernel.org/fedora/development/18/x86_64/os/images/ I try one boot.iso from F18 Beta RC1 and understand why is not there , because doesn't work . Upgrading via ISO is no longer an option with F18+ 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . Can you file a bug or provide more details? The debug log would also be helpful (using --debuglog=some filename with fedup-cli) As a side note, the test list is probably a better place to be discussing upgrade issues for Fedora 18. Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Qui, 2012-11-29 at 17:21 +, Frank Murphy wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:47:16 + Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: Hi, I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want upgrade to F18 Beta . 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . I used fedup earlier today, to successfully upgrade from F17+ 3rd Party repos to F18 as described here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedUp yeah my computer in office is upgrading with FedUp Thanks, -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
Il 29/11/2012 17:47, Sérgio Basto ha scritto: 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade Check if this bug could be related to your experience https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881764 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Qui, 2012-11-29 at 10:23 -0700, Tim Flink wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:47:16 + Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: Hi, I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want upgrade to F18 Beta . 1 - Try Preupgrade but No preupgrade for F17-F18 ? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-August/109441.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/173805.html Why this was disabled And what happen if I ignore preupgrade-ok=False Yeah, preupgrade won't work at all for 17 - 18. At some point before release, the preupgrade package should be obsoleted in F17+ but that hasn't happened yet. 2 - boot.iso, no boot.iso on http://mirrors.eu.kernel.org/fedora/development/18/x86_64/os/images/ I try one boot.iso from F18 Beta RC1 and understand why is not there , because doesn't work . Upgrading via ISO is no longer an option with F18+ So, you confirm that also DVD.iso is not a option ? (I forgot mention that ) 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . Can you file a bug or provide more details? The debug log would also be helpful (using --debuglog=some filename with fedup-cli) OK, I had many rpmfusion rpms installed, so I'm delaying the report to understand if the problem is not mine. Thanks, -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 19:02:41 + Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: On Qui, 2012-11-29 at 10:23 -0700, Tim Flink wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:47:16 + Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: Hi, I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want upgrade to F18 Beta . 1 - Try Preupgrade but No preupgrade for F17-F18 ? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-August/109441.html http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-November/173805.html Why this was disabled And what happen if I ignore preupgrade-ok=False Yeah, preupgrade won't work at all for 17 - 18. At some point before release, the preupgrade package should be obsoleted in F17+ but that hasn't happened yet. 2 - boot.iso, no boot.iso on http://mirrors.eu.kernel.org/fedora/development/18/x86_64/os/images/ I try one boot.iso from F18 Beta RC1 and understand why is not there , because doesn't work . Upgrading via ISO is no longer an option with F18+ So, you confirm that also DVD.iso is not a option ? (I forgot mention that ) Correct - upgrading from a booted DVD.iso is not going to be an option with FedUp. Sourcing packages from the DVD using the fedup client is an option but I haven't written docs for that yet. 3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let me upgrade . Can you file a bug or provide more details? The debug log would also be helpful (using --debuglog=some filename with fedup-cli) OK, I had many rpmfusion rpms installed, so I'm delaying the report to understand if the problem is not mine. Sounds like a plan, hopefully it won't be too difficult to figure out. Tim signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: I want upgrade my computer
On Qui, 2012-11-29 at 12:28 -0700, Tim Flink wrote: Sounds like a plan, hopefully it won't be too difficult to figure out. I was just out of space in Hard Disk, correctly writes package foo needs 100M etc But should end with a nice message saying you need free space of your disk before upgrade I already updated the 2nd computer. Thanks to all that help me out. -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
