Re: Re: Liberation fonts plan

[nicolas . mailhot]

De: "pravin d s" 

>On 20 June 2017 at 18:42, Matthew Miller  wrote:

>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:35:24PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
>> >- In Fedora we will have both packages liberation2-fonts and
>> >liberation-fonts
>>


De: "pravin d s" 

>On 20 June 2017 at 18:42, Matthew Miller  wrote:

>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:35:24PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
>> >- In Fedora we will have both packages liberation2-fonts and
>> >liberation-fonts
>>
>> Will the actual fonts have different names?
>>

>I am planning to have same fonts name, so one can simply install other
>packages and replace the existing one.

Frankly, if the rift is deep enough there's no hope of producing a Liberation 
version that satisfies everyone, it would be better to have to different family 
names, with fontconfig substitution rules that make each one a valid 
replacement for the other if it's not installed on the system.

The fontconfig rules will keep software happy and the different names will 
force humans to take a choice instead of talking past one another like is the 
case right now.

Regards,

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Nicolas Mailhot
>> Will the actual fonts have different names?
>>

>I am planning to have same fonts name, so one can simply install other
>packages and replace the existing one.

Frankly, if the rift is deep enough there's no hope of producing a Liberation 
version that satisfyes everyone, it would be better to have to different family 
names, with fontconfig substitution rules that make each one a valid 
replacement for the other if it's not installed on the system.

The fontconfig rules will keep software happy and the different names will 
force humans to take a choice instead of talking past one another like is the 
case right now.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot
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Re: Liberation fonts plan

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:55:04PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
> > This seems likely to lead to user confusion. Any chance of making the
> > old one "Liberation Classic" or something like that?
> I liked the idea. With this case we can have both fonts installed same time
> on the system.

As long as it's not a huge amount of extra work for you!

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Re: Liberation fonts plan

[pravin....@gmail.com]

On 20 June 2017 at 22:37, Matthew Miller  wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:46:31PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:35:24PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >- In Fedora we will have both packages liberation2-fonts and
> > > >liberation-fonts
> > > Will the actual fonts have different names?
> > I am planning to have same fonts name, so one can simply install other
> > packages and replace the existing one.
>
> This seems likely to lead to user confusion. Any chance of making the
> old one "Liberation Classic" or something like that?
>

I liked the idea. With this case we can have both fonts installed same time
on the system.

Regards,
Pravin
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Re: Liberation fonts plan

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:46:31PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:35:24PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
> > >- In Fedora we will have both packages liberation2-fonts and
> > >liberation-fonts
> > Will the actual fonts have different names?
> I am planning to have same fonts name, so one can simply install other
> packages and replace the existing one.

This seems likely to lead to user confusion. Any chance of making the
old one "Liberation Classic" or something like that?


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Re: Liberation fonts plan

[pravin....@gmail.com]

On 20 June 2017 at 18:42, Matthew Miller  wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:35:24PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
> >- In Fedora we will have both packages liberation2-fonts and
> >liberation-fonts
>
> Will the actual fonts have different names?
>

I am planning to have same fonts name, so one can simply install other
packages and replace the existing one.

-
Pravin


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Re: Liberation fonts plan

[Matthew Miller]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 06:35:24PM +0530, pravin@gmail.com wrote:
>- In Fedora we will have both packages liberation2-fonts and
>liberation-fonts

Will the actual fonts have different names?


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Re: Liberation fonts plan

[Neal Gompa]

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 9:05 AM, pravin@gmail.com
 wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>Presently as you know, we have liberation-2 and liberation 1.07.4. i am
> maintaining both in single git repo. [1]
>
> I am thinking to create different project for liberation2, reasons as
> follows
>
> liberation 2 - It initially forked from google-croscore-fonts and now
> independent development is happening.
> liberation 1 - Though shapes are same, liberation 1 has bytecode hinting
> instruction, many users like it.
> Problem: Few users want to use liberation 1 and few users want to use
> liberation 2.
> Having different project for both will help for independant development and
> also users can switch as per interest.
> One can obsolete to other.
> In Fedora we will have both packages liberation2-fonts and liberation-fonts
>
>  Let me know - feedback and suggestions.   Copr for liberation2 [2]
>
>   Background information on Wiki. [3]
>
> Thanks,
> Pravin
>

I'm okay with anything that leads to us having all the fonts! And
there have been people asking why Fedora (the originator of the fonts
in question) doesn't have the latest version of the fonts. If this
fixes that, I'll be pleased.


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Liberation fonts plan

[pravin....@gmail.com]

Hi All,

   Presently as you know, we have liberation-2 and liberation 1.07.4. i am
maintaining both in single git repo. [1]

I am thinking to create different project for liberation2, reasons as
follows

   - liberation 2 - It initially forked from google-croscore-fonts and now
   independent development is happening.
   - liberation 1 - Though shapes are same, liberation 1 has bytecode
   hinting instruction, many users like it.
   - Problem: Few users want to use liberation 1 and few users want to use
   liberation 2.
   - Having different project for both will help for independant
   development and also users can switch as per interest.
   - One can obsolete to other.
   - In Fedora we will have both packages liberation2-fonts and
   liberation-fonts

 Let me know - feedback and suggestions.   Copr for liberation2 [2]

  Background information on Wiki. [3]

Thanks,
Pravin

1. https://pagure.io/liberation-fonts
2. https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/pravins/liberation2
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_fonts
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