Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2023-01-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miroslav Lichvar:

> On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 06:07:25PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * Miroslav Lichvar:
>> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
>> > `wmove@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
>> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
>> > `derwin@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
>> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
>> > `wenclose@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
>> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libpanel.so.6: undefined reference to 
>> > `_nc_panelhook_sp@NCURSES6_5.8.20110226'
>> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
>> > `wcursyncup@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
>> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
>> > `copywin@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
>> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
>> > `newpad@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
>> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libpanel.so.6: undefined reference to 
>> > `wnoutrefresh@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
>> > ...
>> >
>> > libform and libpanel depend on libncurses.
>> 
>> Could you give them a similar treatment, with more linker scripts?
>
> It doesn't work if I add AS_NEEDED(libpanel libform) to libncurses. It
> works if I add it to libtinfo. I guess that comes from the order of
> NEEDED in liblldb.so.13git, which is included in the linker command.
>
>   NEEDED   libtinfo.so.6
>   NEEDED   libncurses.so.6
>   NEEDED   libform.so.6
>   NEEDED   libpanel.so.6
>
> Would every ncurses library need to have all other libraries in
> AS_NEEDED?

Yeah, I think so.  I was worried about that.  Unfortunately, it doesn't
seem to be possible to set -rpath-link from a linker script.

> In any case, I don't like much the fact that with this approach it
> would be possible to link ncurses/panel/form applications using just
> -lncurses or -ltinfo. An application developed on Fedora might fail to
> build on other systems.

Yes, I think we need to wait until we have stub objects.  They avoid
this issue because they won't depend on anything.

Thanks,
Florian
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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2023-01-03 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Mon, Jan 02, 2023 at 06:07:25PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Miroslav Lichvar:
> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> > `wmove@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> > `derwin@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> > `wenclose@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libpanel.so.6: undefined reference to 
> > `_nc_panelhook_sp@NCURSES6_5.8.20110226'
> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> > `wcursyncup@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> > `copywin@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> > `newpad@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> > /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libpanel.so.6: undefined reference to 
> > `wnoutrefresh@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> > ...
> >
> > libform and libpanel depend on libncurses.
> 
> Could you give them a similar treatment, with more linker scripts?

It doesn't work if I add AS_NEEDED(libpanel libform) to libncurses. It
works if I add it to libtinfo. I guess that comes from the order of
NEEDED in liblldb.so.13git, which is included in the linker command.

  NEEDED   libtinfo.so.6
  NEEDED   libncurses.so.6
  NEEDED   libform.so.6
  NEEDED   libpanel.so.6

Would every ncurses library need to have all other libraries in
AS_NEEDED?

In any case, I don't like much the fact that with this approach it
would be possible to link ncurses/panel/form applications using just
-lncurses or -ltinfo. An application developed on Fedora might fail to
build on other systems.

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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2023-01-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miroslav Lichvar:

> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:55:11AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> It may work to use this for libtinfo.so:
>> 
>> GROUP (/usr/lib64/ncurses-novs/libtinfo.so.6 AS_NEEDED 
>> (/usr/lib64/ncurses-novs/libncurses.so.6))
>
> FWIW, I tried this and the error messages from the swift-lang build
> changed from:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `tparm@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `_nc_safe_strcpy@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.2.20001021'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `_nc_name_match@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `wtimeout@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `_nc_doalloc@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `_nc_safe_strcat@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.2.20001021'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `baudrate_sp@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.8.20110226'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `_nc_update_screensize@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
> ...
>
> to 
>
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `wmove@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `derwin@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `wenclose@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libpanel.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `_nc_panelhook_sp@NCURSES6_5.8.20110226'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `wcursyncup@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `copywin@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `newpad@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libpanel.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `wnoutrefresh@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
> ...
>
> libform and libpanel depend on libncurses.

Could you give them a similar treatment, with more linker scripts?

Thanks,
Florian
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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2023-01-02 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:55:11AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> It may work to use this for libtinfo.so:
> 
> GROUP (/usr/lib64/ncurses-novs/libtinfo.so.6 AS_NEEDED 
> (/usr/lib64/ncurses-novs/libncurses.so.6))

FWIW, I tried this and the error messages from the swift-lang build
changed from:

/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`tparm@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_safe_strcpy@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.2.20001021'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_name_match@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`wtimeout@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_doalloc@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_safe_strcat@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.2.20001021'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`baudrate_sp@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.8.20110226'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_update_screensize@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
...

to 

/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
`wmove@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
`derwin@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
`wenclose@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libpanel.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_panelhook_sp@NCURSES6_5.8.20110226'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
`wcursyncup@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
`copywin@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libform.so.6: undefined reference to 
`newpad@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libpanel.so.6: undefined reference to 
`wnoutrefresh@NCURSES6_5.0.19991023'
...

libform and libpanel depend on libncurses.

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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2022-12-19 Thread Ron Olson
Thanks for doing that, Swift builds correctly on Rawhide now: 
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=95546843

On 16 Dec 2022, at 5:24, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:55:11AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> Miroslav, we may have to revert the versioning change if the AS_NEEDED
>> approach does not work.
>
> Ok, I reverted that change, at least until I have more time for
> testing the possible fixes.
>
>>   Linking versioned libncurses against
>> unversioned libtinfo etc. would solve this, but I don't know how it
>> would to get to this point.
>
> I don't know much about ELF. Is it possible to remove versions from
> specific symbols in the symbol table after the libraries are built,
> maybe with some tool like chrpath?
>
> -- 
> Miroslav Lichvar
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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2022-12-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miroslav Lichvar:

> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:55:11AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>   Linking versioned libncurses against
>> unversioned libtinfo etc. would solve this, but I don't know how it
>> would to get to this point.
>
> I don't know much about ELF. Is it possible to remove versions from
> specific symbols in the symbol table after the libraries are built,
> maybe with some tool like chrpath?

It's an allocated section, and patching those is always a bit tricky.
In this case, we'd remove data from it, so it might work.  I'm still on
the fence whether we should have some form of proper link editor support
for that, or if it's too obscure to matter.

Thanks,
Florian
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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2022-12-16 Thread Ron Olson
If you’re interested in testing any changes/fixes with Swift, you can 
use my Swift-for-Fedora repo 
(https://github.com/tachoknight/swift-lang-packaging-fedora). 
`setup-container.sh` does what you think it does in case you’re using 
podman or docker, and `justbuild.sh` actually does all the work to 
actually create the artifacts.


Hope that helps!

Ron

On 16 Dec 2022, at 5:24, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:


On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:55:11AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
Miroslav, we may have to revert the versioning change if the 
AS_NEEDED

approach does not work.


Ok, I reverted that change, at least until I have more time for
testing the possible fixes.


  Linking versioned libncurses against
unversioned libtinfo etc. would solve this, but I don't know how it
would to get to this point.


I don't know much about ELF. Is it possible to remove versions from
specific symbols in the symbol table after the libraries are built,
maybe with some tool like chrpath?

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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2022-12-16 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:55:11AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Miroslav, we may have to revert the versioning change if the AS_NEEDED
> approach does not work.

Ok, I reverted that change, at least until I have more time for
testing the possible fixes.

>   Linking versioned libncurses against
> unversioned libtinfo etc. would solve this, but I don't know how it
> would to get to this point.

I don't know much about ELF. Is it possible to remove versions from
specific symbols in the symbol table after the libraries are built,
maybe with some tool like chrpath?

-- 
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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2022-12-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ron Olson:

> In Rawhide the ncurses libs are at 6.3-4.20221126, while f37 is
> 6.3-3.20220501. I recall seeing some messages go by related to ncurses
> on the list here regarding the -compat library, but I’m not sure if
> that’s related to my issue. It seems weird that some of the functions
> it’s unable to find are part of the library (e.g. wtimeout is a valid
> function, according to the man pages).
>
> Could there be something weird with rawhide’s copy of ncurses or was
> there some big update that removed all these functions?

Recently, ncurses introduced symbol versioning at run time, but not at
link time (bug 1875587).  I missed that ncurses constitutes of multiple
shared objects that depend on each other.  What seems to happen here is
that some other object in that link depends on libncurses, which results
in linker using the versioned libncurses (the run-time version).  The
versioned libncurses depends on the versioned libtinfo because it uses
versioned symbol references.  But -ltinfo uses a linker script to link
against the unversioned libtinfo, so that the application sticks to the
Fedora ncurses ABI, and that is not suitable for resolving the symbol
references in the versioned libncurses.

It may work to use this for libtinfo.so:

GROUP (/usr/lib64/ncurses-novs/libtinfo.so.6 AS_NEEDED 
(/usr/lib64/ncurses-novs/libncurses.so.6))

But the AS_NEEDED might come too late to have an effect, after the
versioned libncurses has been loaded.  It's also possible that the build
system for this particular package has an explicit reference to
/usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6 somewhere that we cannot easily get rid of
from the outside.  In the latter case, even a special directory for
unversioned, link-time search objects, a directory that is injected into
the build using -rpath-link (via the default linker flags in
redhat-rpm-config) would fail to hide the versioned libncurses variant.

Miroslav, we may have to revert the versioning change if the AS_NEEDED
approach does not work.  This is also not something that would have been
solved by a stub generator.  Linking versioned libncurses against
unversioned libtinfo etc. would solve this, but I don't know how it
would to get to this point.

Thanks,
Florian
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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2022-12-15 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 2:02 PM Ron Olson  wrote:
> Hey all-
>
> I got linking errors on rawhide that I did not get on F37 when building Swift 
> related to curses support 
> (https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/7462/95367462/build.log), 
> like:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> tparm@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023' /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: 
> undefined reference to _nc_safe_strcpy@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.2.20001021'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> _nc_name_match@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023' /usr/bin/ld: 
> /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> wtimeout@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
> /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
> `_nc_doalloc@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
>
> In Rawhide the ncurses libs are at 6.3-4.20221126, while f37 is 
> 6.3-3.20220501. I recall seeing some messages go by related to ncurses on the 
> list here regarding the -compat library, but I’m not sure if that’s related 
> to my issue. It seems weird that some of the functions it’s unable to find 
> are part of the library (e.g. wtimeout is a valid function, according to the 
> man pages).
>
> Could there be something weird with rawhide’s copy of ncurses or was there 
> some big update that removed all these functions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ron

I think the error message is misleading.  Notice that there is no
-lncurses in that link command.  I think it is telling you that there
are references to symbols in libncurses that haven't been resolved.
Indeed, manually adding -lncurses to the link line dramatically
shrinks the number of errors and makes it complain about libform and
libpanel instead.  Adding this:

-lncurses -lform -lpanel

just before -ltinfo results in a successful link.  I don't know why
you suddenly need to link against libncurses, libform, and libpanel
when libtinfo was enough previously.
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Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2022-12-15 Thread Ron Olson

Hey all-

I got linking errors on rawhide that I did not get on F37 when building 
Swift related to curses support 
(https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/7462/95367462/build.log), 
like:


/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`tparm@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_safe_strcpy@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.2.20001021'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_name_match@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`wtimeout@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'
/usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib64/libncurses.so.6: undefined reference to 
`_nc_doalloc@NCURSES6_TINFO_5.0.19991023'


In Rawhide the ncurses libs are at 6.3-4.20221126, while f37 is 
6.3-3.20220501. I recall seeing some messages go by related to ncurses 
on the list here regarding the -compat library, but I’m not sure if 
that’s related to my issue. It seems weird that some of the functions 
it’s unable to find are part of the library (e.g. wtimeout is a valid 
function, according to the man pages).


Could there be something weird with rawhide’s copy of ncurses or was 
there some big update that removed all these functions?


Thanks!

Ron___
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