Re: Package Maintainer Docs published
Vít Ondruch kirjoitti 31.8.2021 klo 11.43: Dne 31. 08. 21 v 7:39 Otto Urpelainen napsal(a): Greetings, Some months ago, I announced [0] that I will move the package maintainer docs from wiki to docs.fedoraproject.org. Thx a lot. All changes to the documentation is intended to happen through pull requests. However, following the spirit of earlier wiki based documentation, the documentation is intended to be maintainer collectively by all Fedora packagers. Due to technical issues, the packager group from Fedora Account System cannot be granted access, so there is a separate group package-maintainer-docs with commit access. Membership is granted to any packager requesting it. Please file an issue in the repository if you want to join. Everybody whose PR was accepted should get commit bit IMO. So you mean that even people not in the 'packager' group would be granted access after they have one accepted PR? Sounds reasonable, there is still some minimal barrier of entry to block spam and such, and would help getting the parts that are relevant to new contributors fixed. Also, it would probably help it there was explained how to get some attention if nobody responds to PR. Yes, this is needed. Perhaps something like this: If your pull request is simple and you have commit rights, just merge it. If you do not have commit rights, or the change is not simple and really would need a review, notify people marked as repo admins by mentioning them in a comment. If that does not lead anywhere, complain in the devel list. I suppose direct commits for trivial changes like typo fixes and broken links could be recommended, too. Otto ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Package Maintainer Docs published
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 07:27:50AM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > Il 31/08/21 07:39, Otto Urpelainen ha scritto: > > Greetings, > > > > Some months ago, I announced [0] that I will move the package maintainer > > docs from wiki to docs.fedoraproject.org. I am happy to announce that > > this task is complete and the docs are public in their new location now > > [1]. Hopefully, this will allow existing and new packagers to find > > relevant documentation more easily, and foster more concentrated efforts > > to make it better. > > > Thanks for this work! > > Just a question from a quick reading of the Joining the Package > Maintainers section: now that Bugzilla is integrated with the Fedora > Account System (we can login with that) is it still mandatory to create > a BZ account? Or should we make new users to login in BZ with FAS > (noggin) to have the account created in BZ? How does that work? It would create it. However, I think we should wait on this a bit longer. The new account system has a bugzilla account field in it. We are close to ready to make that work as you expect (ie, if you put an account name in there it will use that as your bugzilla login/account), but it needs some more work with bugzilla admins before it's live. Right now, you just get your primary email address. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Package Maintainer Docs published
On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 10:43:26 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Everybody whose PR was accepted should get commit bit IMO. Also, it would > probably help it there was explained how to get some attention if nobody > responds to PR. +1. I've filed a tracker ticket where folks can comment if they'd like to help maintain the docs: https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/package-maintainer-docs/issue/23 -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Time zone: Europe/London signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Package Maintainer Docs published
Dne 31. 08. 21 v 7:39 Otto Urpelainen napsal(a): Greetings, Some months ago, I announced [0] that I will move the package maintainer docs from wiki to docs.fedoraproject.org. Thx a lot. All changes to the documentation is intended to happen through pull requests. However, following the spirit of earlier wiki based documentation, the documentation is intended to be maintainer collectively by all Fedora packagers. Due to technical issues, the packager group from Fedora Account System cannot be granted access, so there is a separate group package-maintainer-docs with commit access. Membership is granted to any packager requesting it. Please file an issue in the repository if you want to join. Everybody whose PR was accepted should get commit bit IMO. Also, it would probably help it there was explained how to get some attention if nobody responds to PR. Vít ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Package Maintainer Docs published
Il 31/08/21 07:39, Otto Urpelainen ha scritto: > Greetings, > > Some months ago, I announced [0] that I will move the package maintainer > docs from wiki to docs.fedoraproject.org. I am happy to announce that > this task is complete and the docs are public in their new location now > [1]. Hopefully, this will allow existing and new packagers to find > relevant documentation more easily, and foster more concentrated efforts > to make it better. > Thanks for this work! Just a question from a quick reading of the Joining the Package Maintainers section: now that Bugzilla is integrated with the Fedora Account System (we can login with that) is it still mandatory to create a BZ account? Or should we make new users to login in BZ with FAS (noggin) to have the account created in BZ? How does that work? Mattia ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Package Maintainer Docs published
Greetings, Some months ago, I announced [0] that I will move the package maintainer docs from wiki to docs.fedoraproject.org. I am happy to announce that this task is complete and the docs are public in their new location now [1]. Hopefully, this will allow existing and new packagers to find relevant documentation more easily, and foster more concentrated efforts to make it better. Let me explain how the docs are set up now. I worked mainly alone to get the actual move done. From this point on, I hope that maintenance is done by all package maintainers collectively, similarly to how the wiki documentation was under shared ownership. This also means that everything here is a draft, open for changes based on your feedback. Comments are welcome! The imported content was selected by going through wiki category Package Maintainers [2] and choosing the pages that seemed useful. In general, the pages were imported without modification, however in some cases there were such serious issues that I did some editing. Going forward, documentation for package maintainers should be added to this repo, instead of wiki. There is an issue for replacing the imported wiki pages with pointers to the new urls [3] which will be done soon. Policies, guidelines and other material owned by FESCo or the Packaging Committee is excluded from this repository and is handled like before. One change that moving from wiki to a Git repository at pagure.io brings is access control. I would like to allow all members of the 'packager' group, but unfortunately that group is not visible at pagure.io. So instead I wrote this in the README, to serve as a basis for iterating a good solution: All changes to the documentation is intended to happen through pull requests. However, following the spirit of earlier wiki based documentation, the documentation is intended to be maintainer collectively by all Fedora packagers. Due to technical issues, the packager group from Fedora Account System cannot be granted access, so there is a separate group package-maintainer-docs with commit access. Membership is granted to any packager requesting it. Please file an issue in the repository if you want to join. If you have any interest in the docs at all, I hope you file an issue for membership, or just reply to this mail and I will add you. Currently, I am the maintainer of the repository. There are four other people listed as admins: pingou, mattdm, kevin, codeblock. This list of a leftover from an older, unpublished iteration of the docs. To my understanding, none of these people have expressed interest in maintaining the repository, for whatever tasks there may be that cannot be handled by the committer group. So, I plan to remove everybody but myself. Naturally, to avoid non-responsive admins situation, there should be more than one admin. If you are interested, please let me know an I will add you. Otto [0]: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/4UPDUFVHULLELBKSOYJ233WU3E4BCGYI/ [1]: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/ [2]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Package_Maintainers [3]: https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/package-maintainer-docs/issue/20 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
