Re: Procedure to get keytable included in official console and X and wayland keytables.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 07:24:21 + Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Keyboard mappings are managed by the kbd project [1, 2], > but actual non-legacy keymaps are converted from xkeyboard mappings > [3, 4]. (The idea is that it is best if the same mapping is available > in the graphical environment and on the console). > If you want to add a new mapping, I'd talk with the xkeyboard > upstream. > > [1] https://github.com/legionus/kbd > [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/kbd > [3] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/XKeyboardConfig > [4] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xkeyboard-config Thanks a lot. I suspect there are some hurdles, but this gets me started. I have both console and X keymappings, and the console keymap is a converted X keymap that was built at the time they became related. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Procedure to get keytable included in official console and X and wayland keytables.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 10:22:02 +0200 Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Over the years I have resorted to different hacks to have my extra > mouse and keyboard keys mapped to either other keys or key > combinations, especially on laptops. With the changes on the stack, > I've had to abandon most of them and for the last few releases, I've > been using evdevremapkeys[0] and its fork[1], their main difference > being N:N key mappings. It loads a yaml file with your mappings and > remaps input events on the fly. I haven't been able to run it as a > daemon, so I just launch a terminal at the beginning of my session and > run it from there. It would be great if our DEs had a gui tool that > allowed the same functionality, but for now this is adequate. > > > 0. https://github.com/philipl/evdevremapkeys > 1. https://github.com/pronobis/evdevremapkeys Thanks. This is a great idea, but not really needed by me, except perhaps with wayland, that doesn't do custom keytables. Once the system is running, I just put my console keymap in /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/xkb/, and then if it doesn't pick up the kernel command option or the /etc/default change, I can run loadkeys in an /etc/rc.d/rc.local. For X, I just put the X keymapping in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/ with an .Xkbmap pointing to it in my home directory. The location changes from release to release, sometimes it has to be a stanza in the us keytable in the symbols directory. But, none of these are available with the official release kernels, so do not help when things go south (a grub prompt, install, etc.) The daemon above suffers the same limitations. It is a solution to a problem I already have a workaround for after the system is up and running. The ultimate solution is to buy a programmable keyboard, but even the ergonomic programmable keyboards I have looked at have the same brain dead left hand keys sloping off to the north west instead of the north east like they should if they were to be as ergonomic as the right hand keys. And, they are pricey [1] to buy on spec and then find that they are terrible to use. 1. I understand why; it is expensive to build a mold, and custom electronics boards, and they don't have the mass demand to spread that cost around. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Procedure to get keytable included in official console and X and wayland keytables.
Hi Stan, On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 3:53 AM stan via devel wrote: > > Does anyone know how I would go about getting my keytable, which I > call uneaf after the left home row, included? Is there an official > procedure, or is it just a submission with a request to a programmer > somewhere. Over the years I have resorted to different hacks to have my extra mouse and keyboard keys mapped to either other keys or key combinations, especially on laptops. With the changes on the stack, I've had to abandon most of them and for the last few releases, I've been using evdevremapkeys[0] and its fork[1], their main difference being N:N key mappings. It loads a yaml file with your mappings and remaps input events on the fly. I haven't been able to run it as a daemon, so I just launch a terminal at the beginning of my session and run it from there. It would be great if our DEs had a gui tool that allowed the same functionality, but for now this is adequate. 0. https://github.com/philipl/evdevremapkeys 1. https://github.com/pronobis/evdevremapkeys ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Procedure to get keytable included in official console and X and wayland keytables.
On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 06:03:34PM -0700, stan via devel wrote: > I use a custom keymapping that I developed to save my hands, and > because it is very efficient. It's strength is that the most used keys > are under the strongest fingers, and that for my typing about 80% of > what I type is on the home row. > > The problem is that whenever I have issues with my system, it reverts > to qwerty, and I have to hunt and peck to do things. If it was > official, this wouldn't be a problem, because I could just select it, > the same as one can select dvorak or colemak. Unlike those, I really > rearranged the keys for efficiency, and there are only 2 or 3 keys the > same as qwerty. I used to use qwerty as a touch typist, and I suppose > I could learn to switch back and forth, but qwerty is just so clumsy, > and my hands don't like it. > > Does anyone know how I would go about getting my keytable, which I > call uneaf after the left home row, included? Is there an official > procedure, or is it just a submission with a request to a programmer > somewhere. Keyboard mappings are managed by the kbd project [1, 2], but actual non-legacy keymaps are converted from xkeyboard mappings [3, 4]. (The idea is that it is best if the same mapping is available in the graphical environment and on the console). If you want to add a new mapping, I'd talk with the xkeyboard upstream. [1] https://github.com/legionus/kbd [2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/kbd [3] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/XKeyboardConfig [4] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xkeyboard-config Zbyszek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Procedure to get keytable included in official console and X and wayland keytables.
I use a custom keymapping that I developed to save my hands, and because it is very efficient. It's strength is that the most used keys are under the strongest fingers, and that for my typing about 80% of what I type is on the home row. The problem is that whenever I have issues with my system, it reverts to qwerty, and I have to hunt and peck to do things. If it was official, this wouldn't be a problem, because I could just select it, the same as one can select dvorak or colemak. Unlike those, I really rearranged the keys for efficiency, and there are only 2 or 3 keys the same as qwerty. I used to use qwerty as a touch typist, and I suppose I could learn to switch back and forth, but qwerty is just so clumsy, and my hands don't like it. Does anyone know how I would go about getting my keytable, which I call uneaf after the left home row, included? Is there an official procedure, or is it just a submission with a request to a programmer somewhere. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
