Re: Quick update PPC status

2011-06-06 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 06/03/2011 05:32 PM, Robert Knight wrote:
 On 06/01/2011 12:53 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote:
 Things have been progressing nicely and we now even have 2 mash trees
 with install images for testing available for, one for ppc, the other
 for ppc64:

 http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/mnt/koji/mash/15/

 Those are our current development trees, so things might be broken at
 times. Also the rpms aren't signed as we're changing stuff to fast and
 this isn't a release.

 Greetings. I thank the team for this very large amount of good work.

 I've tried various installations with the resources mentioned on the
 pages referenced with mixed success. When I've checked the bugzilla, I
 do not find any of the problems that I've encountered reported.

 Is it fruitful to report difficulties with the iso's at the temporary
 location? I've started with testing on Mac G5's and did not succeed
 (font problems, followed by a Python crash.)

 I have succeeded in upgrading a Fedora 12 small installation with the
 mash rpms, using the standard Fedora yum upgrade, but I needed to
 install the 64 bit kernel before it would boot.

 How can I help this valuable effort go forward?

Hi Robert.

Thank you for your interest and willingness to help. The easiest way to 
reach the folks working on the PPC support in Fedora is either via the 
mailinglist[1] or even more direct via IRC on freenode[2]. Keep in mind 
though that at least Dan Horak, Karsten Hopp, Adrian Reber and Jiri 
Skala are located in Europe, so depending on your timezone you might 
have more luck with the mailinglist.

We'll be adding tracker bugs for the various secondary archs for which 
we want to do a release for Fedora 16 in the next few days, so if you 
find an issue you can then link it to those tracker bugs.

Thanks again!

Regards, Phil

[1] http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc
[2] IRC: #fedora-ppc on irc.freenode.net

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Re: Quick update PPC status

2011-06-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 12:48:36 PM David Woodhouse wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 18:53 +0200, Phil Knirsch wrote:
  We have tested them on a Power7 box as well as on an older Apple G5, but
  your mileage may vary. Especially on Power5 and Power6 the problem still
  exists that the unified initramfs of Anaconda is too large to fit into
  the initial RAM during bootup, so you'll need to revert to the method
  described in the next paragraph.
 
 Have we actually switched all userspace to 64-bit on 64-bit machines?
 That would exacerbate the initrd size issue quite a lot, wouldn't it?
 
 As well as being significantly less well-tested than the 32-bit support
 was.
if so this is exactly the same as what rhel6 does

 Are the ExcludeArch trackers still up to date for ppc and ppc64? Is
 there an estimate of how many packages are not built for ppc64 that
 *are* built for ppc32?
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Quick update PPC status

2011-06-01 Thread Phil Knirsch
Hi everyone.

It's been roughly a month since the last update, so i wanted to send out 
a quick update of where we are.

Things have been progressing nicely and we now even have 2 mash trees 
with install images for testing available for, one for ppc, the other 
for ppc64:

http://ppc.koji.fedoraproject.org/mnt/koji/mash/15/

Those are our current development trees, so things might be broken at 
times. Also the rpms aren't signed as we're changing stuff to fast and 
this isn't a release.

We have tested them on a Power7 box as well as on an older Apple G5, but 
your mileage may vary. Especially on Power5 and Power6 the problem still 
exists that the unified initramfs of Anaconda is too large to fit into 
the initial RAM during bootup, so you'll need to revert to the method 
described in the next paragraph.

If you want to go a bit of a safer route you can try out an upgrade from 
Fedora 12 to Fedora 15. Dan Horak has described how to do this in a blog 
entry he wrote:

http://sharkcz.livejournal.com/8649.html

It's quite a bit of manual work, but it's pretty straight forward what 
to do. So feel free to give that a shot if you want to try that way 
instead of a fresh install with the mash images and trees.

As stated previously, we won't be doing an official Fedora 15 release, 
it's just not ready yet. But Fedora 16 is definitely planed and 
currently on track.

Current state of the work can always be found here, as usual:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/PowerPC

Thanks  regards, Phil

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Re: Quick update PPC status

2011-06-01 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 18:53 +0200, Phil Knirsch wrote:
 
 We have tested them on a Power7 box as well as on an older Apple G5, but 
 your mileage may vary. Especially on Power5 and Power6 the problem still 
 exists that the unified initramfs of Anaconda is too large to fit into 
 the initial RAM during bootup, so you'll need to revert to the method 
 described in the next paragraph. 

Have we actually switched all userspace to 64-bit on 64-bit machines?
That would exacerbate the initrd size issue quite a lot, wouldn't it?

As well as being significantly less well-tested than the 32-bit support
was.

Are the ExcludeArch trackers still up to date for ppc and ppc64? Is
there an estimate of how many packages are not built for ppc64 that
*are* built for ppc32?

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