Re: (read this one) when Fedora 20 updates kernel to 3.12 ?
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: Hi, kernel 3.12 is out a long time, and still don't see it on Fedora 20, to me doesn't make sense not update it, you will go update just after lunching ? Should be test on test before . The politic of update stables kernel is far to please me , sometimes in middle of a stable release you bump a kernel version, almost without testing it . Now that we are in testings, you don't put new kernel on that . Doesn't make sense to me. You can find it for testing here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug That is being kept at 3.12.y until a rebase is done in the releases. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: (read this one) when Fedora 20 updates kernel to 3.12 ?
On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:35:43 + Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: Hi, kernel 3.12 is out a long time, and still don't see it on Fedora 20, to me doesn't make sense not update it, you will go update just after lunching ? Should be test on test before . The politic of update stables kernel is far to please me , sometimes in middle of a stable release you bump a kernel version, almost without testing it . Now that we are in testings, you don't put new kernel on that . Doesn't make sense to me. Please see: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2013-November/004603.html and https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kernel/2013-November/004635.html Basically it landed too late to get into Beta, and we don't want to ship final with a brand new kernel. It will be a update after release. This allows the installer images to use a known stable kernel, and folks who want the new one to get that one. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: (read this one) when Fedora 20 updates kernel to 3.12 ?
On Qua, 2013-12-04 at 12:42 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Basically it landed too late to get into Beta, and we don't want to ship final with a brand new kernel. It will be a update after release. This allows the installer images to use a known stable kernel, and folks who want the new one to get that one. We should ship kernel 3.12 rc something, instead. Don't landed to get into Beta is not a excuse (for me) . Beta is for testers, nothing better to test a new kernel, and not bumping after lunch a stable release ... , doesn't make sense to me . -- Sérgio M. B. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: (read this one) when Fedora 20 updates kernel to 3.12 ?
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote: On Qua, 2013-12-04 at 12:42 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Basically it landed too late to get into Beta, and we don't want to ship final with a brand new kernel. It will be a update after release. This allows the installer images to use a known stable kernel, and folks who want the new one to get that one. We should ship kernel 3.12 rc something, instead. Don't landed to get into Beta is not a excuse (for me) . It isn't an excuse. It's being conservative. Trying to nail a kernel for a Fedora release is fairly difficult, given that we can't plan for slips but we know they're coming. What we don't know is how many, how long, and what is going to happen upstream in bugzilla in the meantime. Beta is for testers, nothing better to test a new kernel, and not bumping after lunch a stable release ... , doesn't make sense to me . We'll take this under advisement for future releases. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: (read this one) when Fedora 20 updates kernel to 3.12 ?
Am 04.12.2013 21:15, schrieb Sérgio Basto: On Qua, 2013-12-04 at 12:42 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Basically it landed too late to get into Beta, and we don't want to ship final with a brand new kernel. It will be a update after release. This allows the installer images to use a known stable kernel, and folks who want the new one to get that one. We should ship kernel 3.12 rc something, instead. Don't landed to get into Beta is not a excuse (for me) . Beta is for testers, nothing better to test a new kernel, and not bumping after lunch a stable release ... , doesn't make sense to me it makes sense if you find out too late that the new kernel has regressions which are affecting too much users there is no way to fix that and they all maybe are impossible to install the new release from the ISO image after the release even with the first yum-update you can boot with the old one if things go wrong and write a bugreport from a working machine signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
