Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!
On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 11:59 +0100, Camilo Mesias wrote: I did an install from the RC3 live CD (on USB) and it went well. However F15 remains very unstable, I don't think I will be able to use it. The main problem is that it will lock up spontaneously (then heats up if left as if in a tight CPU consuming loop). Apart from that any kind of session ending - logout, reboot, and other things like suspend, hibernate, turning wireless on and off - things that use systemd maybe? - will lock up the machine in the same way. This machine was perfectly usable on F14 and never locked up. I have a bug: 697157 on the kernel which seems to be getting little or no attention; at the same time I don't have any idea how to diagnose this given that the logs contain no clues. systemd isn't involved in logout, suspend, hibernate or wireless switching, so I don't think it's a suspect here. What you might want to do is try fallback mode, or a desktop other than GNOME, and see how that goes; the problem here may be that there's bugs in the 3D / compositing support for your graphics adapter that become apparent under Shell but are not apparent when using a desktop that doesn't use the same features Shell does. That would explain why it worked okay in F14. I'd be interested to see if it works okay in fallback mode, KDE or LXDE... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!
Hi, On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: What you might want to do is try fallback mode, or a desktop other than GNOME, and see how that goes; the problem here may be that there's bugs in the 3D / compositing support for your graphics adapter that become apparent under Shell but are not apparent when using a desktop that doesn't use the same features Shell does. That would explain why it worked okay in F14 For the record I was using the F14 version of Gnome shell for much of the time (ever since I found out about the experimental version of nouveau). I tried F15 with nomodeset option and fallback desktop (which was pretty horrible) too. -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 22:44 +0100, Camilo Mesias wrote: Hi, On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: What you might want to do is try fallback mode, or a desktop other than GNOME, and see how that goes; the problem here may be that there's bugs in the 3D / compositing support for your graphics adapter that become apparent under Shell but are not apparent when using a desktop that doesn't use the same features Shell does. That would explain why it worked okay in F14 For the record I was using the F14 version of Gnome shell for much of the time (ever since I found out about the experimental version of nouveau). I tried F15 with nomodeset option and fallback desktop (which was pretty horrible) too. well, there goes my great idea... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!
I did an install from the RC3 live CD (on USB) and it went well. However F15 remains very unstable, I don't think I will be able to use it. The main problem is that it will lock up spontaneously (then heats up if left as if in a tight CPU consuming loop). Apart from that any kind of session ending - logout, reboot, and other things like suspend, hibernate, turning wireless on and off - things that use systemd maybe? - will lock up the machine in the same way. This machine was perfectly usable on F14 and never locked up. I have a bug: 697157 on the kernel which seems to be getting little or no attention; at the same time I don't have any idea how to diagnose this given that the logs contain no clues. It will be back to F14 or I might have to try Ubuntu again for this hardware if it doesn't improve. Sorry if the tone of this message is a bit negative. I would love to use F15 and will continue to test any updates as I find time. I'll be keen to work with any developers that are interested in debugging the issues. -Cam On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: As per the Fedora 15 schedule [1], Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for download links and testing instructions. In general, official live images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same as that for install images, except with the trailing /Fedora/ replaced by /Live/. Installation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Desktop: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for installation [2] and desktop [3] should pass in order to meet the Final Release Criteria [4]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [5], or on the test list [6]. Create Final Release Candidate (RC): Install CD/DVD (installation media): https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4697 Create Final Release Candidate (RC): Official Live Images: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4699 F15 Final Blocker tracker bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=617261 F15 Final Nice-To-Have tracker bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=657621 [1] http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-quality-tasks.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Final_Release_Criteria [5] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa [6] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!
On 05/15/2011 06:59 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: I did an install from the RC3 live CD (on USB) and it went well. However F15 remains very unstable, Very weird, I've been using F15 since around alpha full time and never have any stability problem. I suspect it should be a bug related to your specific configuration (hardware?) and worth exploring/troubleshooting. I had issues with Flash (gnome-shell freezing) but those stops once I removed it. Using GNASH now and it works about ok most of the time, though I wouldn't consider myself as someone browsing flash sites... (I watch youtube under HTML5, though it sometimes goes to gnash and seems to work as well most of the time too). I hope my message gives you hope your issues are fixable. Fred -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Final Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!
Thanks, I agree it's a hardware thing although ION / Atom combination isn't that rare and also used to work fine under F14. I have an older, larger laptop with Radeon graphics that works OK with F15. Other machines in the house use F15 and Intel graphics without problems. That said I really don't want to have a miscellany of different OSs in the house and the machine that doesn't work is my main one! -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
