Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?
On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:31 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sérgio Basto > wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote: > > > > Quite literally here: > > > > "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of > > 2021" > > > > > > and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote. > > > > For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream) > > branches, and the focus will be c8s, i.e. we should enable Centos > > 8 stream repo as well. I think that is the message . > > Good luck with that one. The dependency chain for the current Samba > 4.13.2 has problems with missing libraries such as libtommath in RHEL > 8 and CentOS 8. and the Heimdal Kerberos compatibility built into > Samba versus the MIT Kerberos used for RHEL and CentOS is a problem. > I > publish CentOS compatible RPM building tools for samba-4.13.2..over > at > https://github.com/nkadel/samba4repo If the current maintainers of > Samba for RHEL and/or CentOS plan to continue to deliberately disable > the domain controller features at the time of compilation, well, > there's little point to upgrading. The related libraries are woven > into a lot of security tools, such as sssd. Hi, Heimdal Kerberos vs MIT kerberos on Samba is a complete different story , the same doesn't happen in Fedora ? I'm already using CentOS Stream 8 and I'm happy, from https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/ [1] it is very easy to switch. AFAICT upgrading to Centos 8.4 the focus is already shifted to CentOS Stream , but this is only my impression is not a fact [1] # dnf install centos-release-stream # dnf swap centos-{linux,stream}-repos # dnf distro-sync # cat /etc/centos-release CentOS Stream release 8 > CentOS 8 stream, as described, will not be reliable or stable enough > for building RPM's unless people build their own locked down local > mirrors and use that for building with "mock" or designated build > machines. Been there, done that for locked down business deployments. > I'm concerned that upgrades in CentOS Stream may break what need to > be > stable business environments, awaiting the next point release for > upgrade. > doraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Sérgio M. B. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote: > > Quite literally here: > > "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021" > > > and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote. > > For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream) branches, > and the focus will be c8s, i.e. we should enable Centos 8 stream repo as > well. I think that is the message . Good luck with that one. The dependency chain for the current Samba 4.13.2 has problems with missing libraries such as libtommath in RHEL 8 and CentOS 8. and the Heimdal Kerberos compatibility built into Samba versus the MIT Kerberos used for RHEL and CentOS is a problem. I publish CentOS compatible RPM building tools for samba-4.13.2..over at https://github.com/nkadel/samba4repo If the current maintainers of Samba for RHEL and/or CentOS plan to continue to deliberately disable the domain controller features at the time of compilation, well, there's little point to upgrading. The related libraries are woven into a lot of security tools, such as sssd. CentOS 8 stream, as described, will not be reliable or stable enough for building RPM's unless people build their own locked down local mirrors and use that for building with "mock" or designated build machines. Been there, done that for locked down business deployments. I'm concerned that upgrades in CentOS Stream may break what need to be stable business environments, awaiting the next point release for upgrade. doraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?
El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 16:30, Sérgio Basto () escribió: > On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote: > > Quite literally here: > > "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021" > > > and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote. > > For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream) > branches, and the focus will be c8s, i.e. we should enable Centos 8 stream > repo as well. I think that is the message . > > [1] > https://git.centos.org/rpms/samba/branches > > > Br, > > El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 12:03, Sérgio Basto () > escribió: > > On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 00:26 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > Hi, > How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/) > affect Fedora? > > > where you read that is the end of centos ? > > > ___ > > devel mailing list -- > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > -- > > > Sérgio M. B. > > ___ > > RH and people that wrote that CentOS PR made it clear that it was a really big-big change. I don't understand the need of underplaying the facts. -- -- Sergio Belkin LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?
On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote: > Quite literally here: > "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021" and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote. For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream) branches, and the focus will be c8s, i.e. we should enable Centos 8 stream repo as well. I think that is the message . [1] https://git.centos.org/rpms/samba/branches > Br, > > > El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 12:03, Sérgio Basto () > escribió: > > On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 00:26 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > > Hi, > > > How does this ( > > > https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/) affect > > > Fedora? > > > > where you read that is the end of centos ? > > > > > > > > > ___devel mailing list > > > -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > -- > > Sérgio M. B. > > ___ > > > > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > > > ___devel mailing list -- > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Sérgio M. B. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?
Quite literally here: "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021" Br, El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 12:03, Sérgio Basto () escribió: > On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 00:26 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > > Hi, > How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/) > affect Fedora? > > > where you read that is the end of centos ? > > > ___ > > devel mailing list -- > > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > -- > > Sérgio M. B. > > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Eduard Lucena Móvil: +56962318010 GNU/Linux User #589060 Ubuntu User #8749 Fedora Marketing Representative ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org