Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-13 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:31 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sérgio Basto 
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
> > 
> > Quite literally here:
> > 
> > "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of
> > 2021"
> > 
> > 
> > and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote.
> > 
> > For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream)
> > branches,  and the focus will be c8s, i.e. we should enable Centos
> > 8 stream repo as well. I think that is the message .
> 
> Good luck with that one. The dependency chain for the current Samba
> 4.13.2 has problems with missing libraries such as libtommath in RHEL
> 8 and CentOS 8. and the Heimdal Kerberos compatibility built into
> Samba versus the MIT Kerberos used for RHEL and CentOS is a problem.
> I
> publish CentOS compatible RPM building tools for samba-4.13.2..over
> at
> https://github.com/nkadel/samba4repo  If the current maintainers of
> Samba for RHEL and/or CentOS plan to continue to deliberately disable
> the domain controller features at the time of compilation, well,
> there's little point to upgrading. The related libraries are woven
> into a lot of security tools, such as sssd.

Hi, 

Heimdal Kerberos vs MIT kerberos on Samba is a complete different story
, the same doesn't happen in Fedora ?

I'm already using CentOS Stream 8 and I'm happy, from 
https://www.centos.org/centos-stream/ [1] it is very easy to switch. 
AFAICT upgrading to Centos 8.4 the focus is already shifted to CentOS
Stream , but this is only my impression is not a fact 
 
[1]
# dnf install centos-release-stream
# dnf swap centos-{linux,stream}-repos
# dnf distro-sync
# cat /etc/centos-release
CentOS Stream release 8

> CentOS 8 stream, as described, will not be reliable or stable enough
> for building RPM's unless people build their own locked down local
> mirrors and use that for building with "mock" or designated build
> machines. Been there, done that for locked down business deployments.
> I'm concerned that upgrades in CentOS Stream may break what need to
> be
> stable business environments, awaiting the next point release for
> upgrade.
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Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-12 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 2:30 PM Sérgio Basto  wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>
> Quite literally here:
>
> "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021"
>
>
> and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote.
>
> For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream) branches,  
> and the focus will be c8s, i.e. we should enable Centos 8 stream repo as 
> well. I think that is the message .

Good luck with that one. The dependency chain for the current Samba
4.13.2 has problems with missing libraries such as libtommath in RHEL
8 and CentOS 8. and the Heimdal Kerberos compatibility built into
Samba versus the MIT Kerberos used for RHEL and CentOS is a problem. I
publish CentOS compatible RPM building tools for samba-4.13.2..over at
https://github.com/nkadel/samba4repo  If the current maintainers of
Samba for RHEL and/or CentOS plan to continue to deliberately disable
the domain controller features at the time of compilation, well,
there's little point to upgrading. The related libraries are woven
into a lot of security tools, such as sssd.

CentOS 8 stream, as described, will not be reliable or stable enough
for building RPM's unless people build their own locked down local
mirrors and use that for building with "mock" or designated build
machines. Been there, done that for locked down business deployments.
I'm concerned that upgrades in CentOS Stream may break what need to be
stable business environments, awaiting the next point release for
upgrade.
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Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-12 Thread Sergio Belkin
El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 16:30, Sérgio Basto ()
escribió:

> On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
>
> Quite literally here:
>
> "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021"
>
>
> and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote.
>
> For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream)
> branches,  and the focus will be c8s, i.e. we should enable Centos 8 stream
> repo as well. I think that is the message .
>
> [1]
>  https://git.centos.org/rpms/samba/branches
>
>
> Br,
>
> El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 12:03, Sérgio Basto ()
> escribió:
>
> On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 00:26 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
> Hi,
> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> affect Fedora?
>
>
> where you read that is the end of centos ?
>
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RH and people that wrote that CentOS PR made it clear that it was a really
big-big change. I don't understand the need of underplaying the facts.
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Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-12 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sat, 2020-12-12 at 15:04 -0300, Eduard Lucena wrote:
> Quite literally here:
> "CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021"

and CentOS Stream continues after that date , is also wrote.
For example, samba package [1] we have c8 and c8s (CentOS Stream)
branches,  and the focus will be c8s, i.e. we should enable Centos 8
stream repo as well. I think that is the message .
[1] https://git.centos.org/rpms/samba/branches 

> Br,
> 
> 
> El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 12:03, Sérgio Basto ()
> escribió:
> > On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 00:26 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > How does this (
> > > https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/) affect
> > > Fedora?
> > 
> > where you read that is the end of centos ?
> > 
> > 
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Re: CentOS Project shifts focus to CentOS Stream Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora?

2020-12-12 Thread Eduard Lucena
Quite literally here:

"CentOS Linux 8, as a rebuild of RHEL 8, will end at the end of 2021"

Br,

El sáb, 12 dic 2020 a las 12:03, Sérgio Basto ()
escribió:

> On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 00:26 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote:
>
> Hi,
> How does this (https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/)
> affect Fedora?
>
>
> where you read that is the end of centos ?
>
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