Re: DNF and regular expressions
Il 29/06/2015 20:32, Reindl Harald ha scritto: that may be true but you hardly can sell DNF as improvement if you need such workarounds while YUM worked perfectly for many years while working around the package manager in general should be avoided because no longs, no dependency solving and no useful confirmation given that the dnf autocompletion is also horrible slow comapared with YUM i see still no advantages from the change, try yum clTAB versus dnf clTAB, in case of DNF it feels like a network request Then I think we should open some tickets/enhancement requests -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:32:46 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: I've read the rest of the thread, but note that rpm -qa based queries piped to xargs rpm -e still work fine for a package removal task like this that may be true but you hardly can sell DNF as improvement if you need such workarounds while YUM worked perfectly for many years while working around the package manager in general should be avoided because no longs, no dependency solving and no useful confirmation Well, it's not me who's trying to sell DNF as improvement. Rather the opposite. I'm not a fan of it yet. Examples found in various places on the Internet: # dnf whatprovides libtoolize Using metadata from Sun Mar 22 23:13:16 2015 Error: No Matches found # yum whatprovides libtoolize libtool-2.4.2-32.fc22.x86_64 : The GNU Portable Library Tool Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/bin/libtoolize Or this: # dnf search pkg-config Last metadata expiration check performed 1:21:31 ago on Tue Jun 30 09:51:23 2015. === N/S Matched: pkg-config rubygem-pkg-config.noarch : A pkg-config implementation by Ruby rubygem-pkg-config-doc.noarch : Documentation for rubygem-pkg-config mingw32-pkg-config.x86_64 : A tool for determining compilation options for the : win32 target mingw64-pkg-config.x86_64 : A tool for determining compilation options for the : win64 target perl-ExtUtils-PkgConfig.noarch : Simplistic interface to pkg-config python-pkgconfig.noarch : A Python interface to the pkg-config command line tool python3-pkgconfig.noarch : A Python3 interface to the pkg-config command line : tool D'oh! It only examined package name and summary, but the package name is pkgconfig, and hence it only found irrelevant packages and cannot be told to search files inside packages. No, dnf search all … only adds package description and URL to search within. given that the dnf autocompletion is also horrible slow comapared with YUM i see still no advantages from the change, try yum clTAB versus dnf clTAB, in case of DNF it feels like a network request Completion is one of the first things I disable, since it has crept into tools like a disease and is completely broken for me. Various bug reports have not been responded to. Completion with yum-builddep always looks at the repos. Painful. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
On 29.06.2015 12:12, Germano Massullo wrote: What is wrong with DNF's regular expression # dnf remove *debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64 ? I am on F22 but I have a lot packets that should match that regular expression, but dnf does not find them. I also tried to add some escape chars like dnf remove *\-debuginfo\-*.fc20.x86_64 but the result is the same I think dnf only supports globbing in this case ... try dnf remove '*debuginfo*' to protect the *-s from being expanded by the shell -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
Il 29/06/2015 12:18, Ondrej Oprala ha scritto: I think dnf only supports globbing in this case ... try dnf remove '*debuginfo*' to protect the *-s from being expanded by the shell # dnf remove '*debuginfo*' will remove all packages, I need only to remove fc20 debuginfo packages. # dnf remove '*debuginfo*'.fc20.x86_64 does find anything to remove. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
Am 29.06.2015 um 12:22 schrieb Germano Massullo: Il 29/06/2015 12:18, Ondrej Oprala ha scritto: I think dnf only supports globbing in this case ... try dnf remove '*debuginfo*' to protect the *-s from being expanded by the shell # dnf remove '*debuginfo*' will remove all packages, I need only to remove fc20 debuginfo packages. # dnf remove '*debuginfo*'.fc20.x86_64 does find anything to remove dnf remove '*debuginfo*'.fc20.x86_64 is nonsense you don't stop quoting somewhere in the middle dnf remove '*debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64' anyways, it's a terrible regression compared to yum signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
Il 29/06/2015 12:25, Reindl Harald ha scritto: dnf remove '*debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64' anyways, it's a terrible regression compared to yum Same result -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
On 29.6.2015 12:12, Germano Massullo wrote: What is wrong with DNF's regular expression # dnf remove *debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64 ? I am on F22 but I have a lot packets that should match that regular expression, but dnf does not find them. I also tried to add some escape chars like dnf remove *\-debuginfo\-*.fc20.x86_64 but the result is the same May it searches only names of packages instead of rpm names? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
Il 29/06/2015 17:05, David Howells ha scritto: Germano Massullo germano.massu...@gmail.com wrote: What is wrong with DNF's regular expression # dnf remove *debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64 Do you mean 'regular expression' or did you mean 'glob'? If you did mean 'regular expression', then did you want: dnf remove .*debuginfo.*[.]fc20[.]x86_64 David I meant glob, sorry -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
On 29. 6. 2015 at 12:21:30, Petr Stodulka wrote: On 29.6.2015 12:12, Germano Massullo wrote: What is wrong with DNF's regular expression # dnf remove *debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64 ? I am on F22 but I have a lot packets that should match that regular expression, but dnf does not find them. I also tried to add some escape chars like dnf remove *\-debuginfo\-*.fc20.x86_64 but the result is the same May it searches only names of packages instead of rpm names? If I understand the documentation[1] correctly, globs are indeed expanded only in the name of a package. However, there is a bug[2] open for this. If you provide your use case there, it will help prioritizing the bug. [1] http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/command_ref.html?highlight=glob#specifying-packages [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199432 Thanks Jan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
Il 29/06/2015 16:28, Jan Zelený ha scritto: However, there is a bug[2] open for this. If you provide your use case there, it will help prioritizing the bug. [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199432 Thank you, I will provide my use case -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
Germano Massullo germano.massu...@gmail.com wrote: What is wrong with DNF's regular expression # dnf remove *debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64 Do you mean 'regular expression' or did you mean 'glob'? If you did mean 'regular expression', then did you want: dnf remove .*debuginfo.*[.]fc20[.]x86_64 David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
dnf remove '*debuginfo*'.fc20.x86_64 dnf remove '*debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64' both mean exactly the same thing, of course. Reindl you need to revise sh quoting rules (which are admittedly odd, but this is a simple case). Toby. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:12:57 +0200, Germano Massullo wrote: What is wrong with DNF's regular expression # dnf remove *debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64 ? I am on F22 but I have a lot packets that should match that regular expression, but dnf does not find them. I also tried to add some escape chars like dnf remove *\-debuginfo\-*.fc20.x86_64 but the result is the same I've read the rest of the thread, but note that rpm -qa based queries piped to xargs rpm -e still work fine for a package removal task like this. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
Am 29.06.2015 um 20:19 schrieb Michael Schwendt: On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:12:57 +0200, Germano Massullo wrote: What is wrong with DNF's regular expression # dnf remove *debuginfo*.fc20.x86_64 ? I am on F22 but I have a lot packets that should match that regular expression, but dnf does not find them. I also tried to add some escape chars like dnf remove *\-debuginfo\-*.fc20.x86_64 but the result is the same I've read the rest of the thread, but note that rpm -qa based queries piped to xargs rpm -e still work fine for a package removal task like this that may be true but you hardly can sell DNF as improvement if you need such workarounds while YUM worked perfectly for many years while working around the package manager in general should be avoided because no longs, no dependency solving and no useful confirmation given that the dnf autocompletion is also horrible slow comapared with YUM i see still no advantages from the change, try yum clTAB versus dnf clTAB, in case of DNF it feels like a network request signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: DNF and regular expressions
On 29 June 2015 at 20:32, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: snip given that the dnf autocompletion is also horrible slow comapared with YUM i see still no advantages from the change, try yum clTAB versus dnf clTAB, in case of DNF it feels like a network request I'd noticed that some time ago too, the easiest (laziest too) solution I found was to stick this in my /etc/profile.d/custom.sh: complete -F _yum dnf I know the _yum completion function(s) probably needs a bit of tweaking to match all the dnf cli options/syntax but it seems to work well most of the time for now. -- Ahmad Samir -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
