Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Victor Rodriguez]

On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 5:11 PM Manas Mangaonkar
 wrote:
>
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/pac23/Kernel-clear/ updated copr link
>

Nice ! Having more kernel options for Fedora users is really cool

Apart from that , what could give a good boost in numerical apps might be this

https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture

regards


> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 7:27 PM Manas Mangaonkar  
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the really delayed reply.
>>
>> > Please take a look at my slides :
>> > https://schd.ws/hosted_files/ossna2017/6b/Boosting_GLIBC_GCC.pdf
>> > from last year OSSNA
>>
>> > There is a description of the main idea and how does it work here :
>>
>> > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clear-Linux-NA2017-Opts
>>
>> Really nice and informative slides.
>>
>> > feel free to ping me for any further questons
>> > Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach
>>
>> I still don't get what exactly do you want me to implement, referring to the 
>> previous mails,super noob here.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:48 AM Victor Rodriguez  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
>>>  wrote:
>>> >> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the > > same 
>>> >> approach
>>> >
>>> > TBH I don't really know how that'd be done with the current package,would
>>> > love to learn.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Please take a look at my slides :
>>> https://schd.ws/hosted_files/ossna2017/6b/Boosting_GLIBC_GCC.pdf
>>> from last year OSSNA
>>>
>>> There is a description of the main idea and how does it work here :
>>>
>>> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clear-Linux-NA2017-Opts
>>>
>>> feel free to ping me for any further questons
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 3:09 AM Victor Rodriguez  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Manas Mangaonkar
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >> > Thank you for the blog link victor , interesting read it is.
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach
>>> >>
>>> >> > - Manas
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 23:03 Victor Rodriguez,  
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Hayden Barnes 
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
>>> >> >> > third-party dnf repo?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but then
>>> >> >> > allow performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > There is something similar already for people who want to use
>>> >> >> > upstream
>>> >> >> > vanilla kernel.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are
>>> >> >> > compelling.
>>> >> >> > ___
>>> >> >> > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>> >> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Maybe a great blog to read about Clear Linux could be this:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Regards
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Victor
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/pac23/Kernel-clear/ updated copr
link

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 7:27 PM Manas Mangaonkar 
wrote:

> Sorry for the really delayed reply.
>
> > Please take a look at my slides :
> > https://schd.ws/hosted_files/ossna2017/6b/Boosting_GLIBC_GCC.pdf
> > from last year OSSNA
>
> > There is a description of the main idea and how does it work here :
>
> >
> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clear-Linux-NA2017-Opts
>
> Really nice and informative slides.
>
> > feel free to ping me for any further questons
> > Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach
>
> I still don't get what exactly do you want me to implement, referring to
> the previous mails,super noob here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:48 AM Victor Rodriguez 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
>>  wrote:
>> >> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the > > same
>> approach
>> >
>> > TBH I don't really know how that'd be done with the current
>> package,would
>> > love to learn.
>> >
>>
>> Please take a look at my slides :
>> https://schd.ws/hosted_files/ossna2017/6b/Boosting_GLIBC_GCC.pdf
>> from last year OSSNA
>>
>> There is a description of the main idea and how does it work here :
>>
>>
>> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clear-Linux-NA2017-Opts
>>
>> feel free to ping me for any further questons
>>
>> regards
>>
>> > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 3:09 AM Victor Rodriguez 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Manas Mangaonkar
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > Thank you for the blog link victor , interesting read it is.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach
>> >>
>> >> > - Manas
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 23:03 Victor Rodriguez, 
>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Hayden Barnes <
>> thbar...@icloud.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
>> >> >> > third-party dnf repo?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but
>> then
>> >> >> > allow performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > There is something similar already for people who want to use
>> >> >> > upstream
>> >> >> > vanilla kernel.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are
>> >> >> > compelling.
>> >> >> > ___
>> >> >> > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> >> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to
>> devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maybe a great blog to read about Clear Linux could be this:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Victor
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

Sorry for the really delayed reply.

> Please take a look at my slides :
> https://schd.ws/hosted_files/ossna2017/6b/Boosting_GLIBC_GCC.pdf
> from last year OSSNA

> There is a description of the main idea and how does it work here :

>
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clear-Linux-NA2017-Opts

Really nice and informative slides.

> feel free to ping me for any further questons
> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach

I still don't get what exactly do you want me to implement, referring to
the previous mails,super noob here.






On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:48 AM Victor Rodriguez 
wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
>  wrote:
> >> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the > > same
> approach
> >
> > TBH I don't really know how that'd be done with the current package,would
> > love to learn.
> >
>
> Please take a look at my slides :
> https://schd.ws/hosted_files/ossna2017/6b/Boosting_GLIBC_GCC.pdf
> from last year OSSNA
>
> There is a description of the main idea and how does it work here :
>
> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clear-Linux-NA2017-Opts
>
> feel free to ping me for any further questons
>
> regards
>
> > On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 3:09 AM Victor Rodriguez 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Manas Mangaonkar
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Thank you for the blog link victor , interesting read it is.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach
> >>
> >> > - Manas
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 23:03 Victor Rodriguez, 
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Hayden Barnes  >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
> >> >> > third-party dnf repo?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but
> then
> >> >> > allow performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > There is something similar already for people who want to use
> >> >> > upstream
> >> >> > vanilla kernel.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are
> >> >> > compelling.
> >> >> > ___
> >> >> > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to
> devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe a great blog to read about Clear Linux could be this:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >>
> >> >> Victor
> >> >> ___
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Victor Rodriguez]

On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 12:15 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
 wrote:
>> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the > > same approach
>
> TBH I don't really know how that'd be done with the current package,would
> love to learn.
>

Please take a look at my slides :
https://schd.ws/hosted_files/ossna2017/6b/Boosting_GLIBC_GCC.pdf
from last year OSSNA

There is a description of the main idea and how does it work here :

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Clear-Linux-NA2017-Opts

feel free to ping me for any further questons

regards

> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 3:09 AM Victor Rodriguez  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Manas Mangaonkar
>>  wrote:
>> > Thank you for the blog link victor , interesting read it is.
>> >
>>
>> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach
>>
>> > - Manas
>> >
>> > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 23:03 Victor Rodriguez,  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Hayden Barnes 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
>> >> > third-party dnf repo?
>> >> >
>> >> > That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but then
>> >> > allow performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.
>> >> >
>> >> > There is something similar already for people who want to use
>> >> > upstream
>> >> > vanilla kernel.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are
>> >> > compelling.
>> >> > ___
>> >> > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> >>
>> >> Maybe a great blog to read about Clear Linux could be this:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>
>> >> Victor
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the > > same approach

TBH I don't really know how that'd be done with the current package,would
love to learn.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 3:09 AM Victor Rodriguez  wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Manas Mangaonkar
>  wrote:
> > Thank you for the blog link victor , interesting read it is.
> >
>
> Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach
>
> > - Manas
> >
> > On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 23:03 Victor Rodriguez,  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Hayden Barnes 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
> >> > third-party dnf repo?
> >> >
> >> > That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but then
> >> > allow performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.
> >> >
> >> > There is something similar already for people who want to use upstream
> >> > vanilla kernel.
> >> >
> >> > The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are compelling.
> >> > ___
> >> > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> >> > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> >>
> >> Maybe a great blog to read about Clear Linux could be this:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Victor
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Victor Rodriguez]

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Manas Mangaonkar
 wrote:
> Thank you for the blog link victor , interesting read it is.
>

Fedora is already in glibc 2.28 it is possible to do the same approach

> - Manas
>
> On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 23:03 Victor Rodriguez,  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Hayden Barnes 
>> wrote:
>> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
>> > third-party dnf repo?
>> >
>> > That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but then
>> > allow performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.
>> >
>> > There is something similar already for people who want to use upstream
>> > vanilla kernel.
>> >
>> > The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are compelling.
>> > ___
>> > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>
>> Maybe a great blog to read about Clear Linux could be this:
>>
>>
>> https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Victor
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

Thank you for the blog link victor , interesting read it is.

- Manas

On Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 23:03 Victor Rodriguez,  wrote:

> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Hayden Barnes 
> wrote:
> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
> third-party dnf repo?
> >
> > That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but then
> allow performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.
> >
> > There is something similar already for people who want to use upstream
> vanilla kernel.
> >
> > The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are compelling.
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> Maybe a great blog to read about Clear Linux could be this:
>
>
> https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Victor Rodriguez]

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Hayden Barnes  wrote:
> Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a 
> third-party dnf repo?
>
> That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but then allow 
> performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.
>
> There is something similar already for people who want to use upstream 
> vanilla kernel.
>
> The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are compelling.
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Maybe a great blog to read about Clear Linux could be this:

https://clearlinux.org/blogs/transparent-use-library-packages-optimized-intel-architecture

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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

>
> >The processes run are listed in the mail on 16 July. The apps are mostly
> Firefox with half a dozen tabs or so, Konsole with few tabs, Dolphin etc on
> a KDE Plasma desktop. Occasionally postgresql database with a python2.7
> application, but the `perf' traces were taken while these aren't running.
>
>
> --
> Rajeesh
>
>
 What architecture/cpu are you running ? i am updating this package with
the latest fixes mostly for persistent c-state problems.


On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 9:38 PM, Rajeesh K V 
wrote:

>
> > What additional information would you like to know?
>> Like what you were running etc because i didn't notice anything that
>> weird on my end.Sorry for the delay have been busy with college work.
>>
>
> The processes run are listed in the mail on 16 July. The apps are mostly
> Firefox with half a dozen tabs or so, Konsole with few tabs, Dolphin etc on
> a KDE Plasma desktop. Occasionally postgresql database with a python2.7
> application, but the `perf' traces were taken while these aren't running.
>
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Chris Murphy 
wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:56 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> > On 07/23/2018 10:04 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >>
> >> Available Packages
> >> kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> >> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> >
> >
> > This is what I get:
> >
> > # dnf list --all kernel
> > Installed Packages
> > kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> > @updates
> > kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> > @updates-testing
> > kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> > @updates
> > Available Packages
> > kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> > pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> > kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> > pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> >
> > That last one is highlighted in blue.  The problem is that it seems to
> only
> > show packages that would be an upgrade, even though "--all" should
> override
> > that.  Try adding "--showduplicates", that gives me:
> >
> > # dnf list --all --showduplicates kernel
> > Installed Packages
> > kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> > @updates
> > kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> > @updates-testing
> > kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> > @updates
> > Available Packages
> > kernel.x86_64 4.16.3-301.fc28
> fedora
> > kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> > @updates
> > kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> > @updates-testing
> > kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> > @updates
> > kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> updates
> > kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> > pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> > kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> > pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> >
> > Now it shows me the old one from the initial fedora release repo as well.
>
>
> [chris@f28h ~]$ sudo dnf list --all --showduplicates kernel
> [sudo] password for chris:
> Last metadata expiration check: 0:39:32 ago on Tue 24 Jul 2018 11:21:48 AM
> MDT.
> Installed Packages
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.3-200.fc28   @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28   @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.6-200.fc28   @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28   @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc4.git2.1.fc29  @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc5.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
> Available Packages
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.3-301.fc28   fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.3-200.fc28   @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28   @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.6-200.fc28   @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28   @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28   updates
> kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc4.git2.1.fc29  @@commandline
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc5.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
> [chris@f28h ~]$ sudo dnf install kernel-4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28.x86_64
> Last metadata expiration check: 0:42:59 ago on Tue 24 Jul 2018 11:21:48 AM
> MDT.
> Dependencies resolved.
> 
> 
>  Package
> Arch   Version   Repository
> Size
> 
> 
> Installing:
>  kernel x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora  48 k
> Installing dependencies:
>  kernel-core
> x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora  26 M
>  kernel-modules
> x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora  29 M
>
> Transaction Summary
> 
> 
> Install  3 Packages
>
> Total download size: 54 M
> Installed size: 91 M
> Is this ok [y/N]:
>
>
> OK so it has to be explicitly named. I'm not sure what happens if
> there ends up being a name conflict with two enabled repos though, I
> guess I'd have to disablerepo for updates and u-t to force it to use
> the one in the copr.
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Chris Murphy]

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:56 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> On 07/23/2018 10:04 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> Available Packages
>> kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
>> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
>
>
> This is what I get:
>
> # dnf list --all kernel
> Installed Packages
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> @updates-testing
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> @updates
> Available Packages
> kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
>
> That last one is highlighted in blue.  The problem is that it seems to only
> show packages that would be an upgrade, even though "--all" should override
> that.  Try adding "--showduplicates", that gives me:
>
> # dnf list --all --showduplicates kernel
> Installed Packages
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> @updates-testing
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> @updates
> Available Packages
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.3-301.fc28fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> @updates-testing
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28updates
> kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
>
> Now it shows me the old one from the initial fedora release repo as well.


[chris@f28h ~]$ sudo dnf list --all --showduplicates kernel
[sudo] password for chris:
Last metadata expiration check: 0:39:32 ago on Tue 24 Jul 2018 11:21:48 AM MDT.
Installed Packages
kernel.x86_64 4.17.3-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.6-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc4.git2.1.fc29  @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc5.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
Available Packages
kernel.x86_64 4.16.3-301.fc28   fedora
kernel.x86_64 4.17.3-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.6-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28   updates
kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc4.git2.1.fc29  @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc5.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
[chris@f28h ~]$ sudo dnf install kernel-4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28.x86_64
Last metadata expiration check: 0:42:59 ago on Tue 24 Jul 2018 11:21:48 AM MDT.
Dependencies resolved.

 Package
Arch   Version   Repository
Size

Installing:
 kernel x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora  48 k
Installing dependencies:
 kernel-core
x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora  26 M
 kernel-modules
x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora  29 M

Transaction Summary

Install  3 Packages

Total download size: 54 M
Installed size: 91 M
Is this ok [y/N]:


OK so it has to be explicitly named. I'm not sure what happens if
there ends up being a name conflict with two enabled repos though, I
guess I'd have to disablerepo for updates and u-t to force it to use
the one in the copr.


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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

>  It's just a little tricky
>  installing packages that have the same name, but lower > version numbers
than what is in the main Fedora repos.

I will update the documentation,thanks.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, 13:56 Samuel Sieb,  wrote:

> On 07/23/2018 11:53 PM, Manas Mangaonkar wrote:
> > This was my first repo/package sorry if i messed up somewhere.
>
> I don't personally have any interest in this package, but I don't see
> anything wrong with how it's setup.  It's just a little tricky
> installing packages that have the same name, but lower version numbers
> than what is in the main Fedora repos.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Samuel Sieb]

On 07/23/2018 11:53 PM, Manas Mangaonkar wrote:

This was my first repo/package sorry if i messed up somewhere.


I don't personally have any interest in this package, but I don't see 
anything wrong with how it's setup.  It's just a little tricky 
installing packages that have the same name, but lower version numbers 
than what is in the main Fedora repos.

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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

This was my first repo/package sorry if i messed up somewhere.

On Tue, 24 Jul 2018, 12:11 Samuel Sieb,  wrote:

> On 07/23/2018 10:04 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > Available Packages
> > kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> > pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
>
> This is what I get:
>
> # dnf list --all kernel
> Installed Packages
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> @updates-testing
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> @updates
> Available Packages
> kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
>
> That last one is highlighted in blue.  The problem is that it seems to
> only show packages that would be an upgrade, even though "--all" should
> override that.  Try adding "--showduplicates", that gives me:
>
> # dnf list --all --showduplicates kernel
> Installed Packages
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> @updates-testing
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> @updates
> Available Packages
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.3-301.fc28
> fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28
> @updates-testing
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> @updates
> kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28
> updates
> kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
> kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
> pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
>
> Now it shows me the old one from the initial fedora release repo as well.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Samuel Sieb]

On 07/23/2018 10:04 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:

Available Packages
kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora


This is what I get:

# dnf list --all kernel
Installed Packages
kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28 
   @updates
kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28 
   @updates-testing
kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28 
   @updates

Available Packages
kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28 
   pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28 
   pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora


That last one is highlighted in blue.  The problem is that it seems to 
only show packages that would be an upgrade, even though "--all" should 
override that.  Try adding "--showduplicates", that gives me:


# dnf list --all --showduplicates kernel
Installed Packages
kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28 
   @updates
kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28 
   @updates-testing
kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28 
   @updates

Available Packages
kernel.x86_64 4.16.3-301.fc28 
   fedora
kernel.x86_64 4.16.11-300.fc28 
   @updates
kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28 
   @updates-testing
kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28 
   @updates
kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28 
   updates
kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28 
   pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28 
   pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora


Now it shows me the old one from the initial fedora release repo as well.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Chris Murphy]

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> On 07/23/2018 11:06 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> I need installation instructions to use this kernel, apparently. I've
>> got the copr enabled, but can't figure out how to actually install the
>> kernel and kernel modules.
>
>
> If you used dnf to enable the copr repository, then "dnf list --all kernel"
> should show you at least one from there.  An upgrade won't work if the
> version in the copr is lower than the latest one in the main Fedora repo, so
> you might need to do a dnf install with the specific version.

Nope.

[chris@f28h ~]$ sudo dnf list --all kernel
[sudo] password for chris:
Last metadata expiration check: 0:51:18 ago on Mon 23 Jul 2018 10:12:29 PM MDT.
Installed Packages
kernel.x86_64 4.17.3-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.4-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.6-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.17.7-200.fc28   @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc3.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc4.git2.1.fc29  @@commandline
kernel.x86_64 4.18.0-0.rc5.git1.1.fc29  @@commandline
Available Packages
kernel.src4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28
pac23-High_Performance_Clear_LInux_kernel_for_Fedora
[chris@f28h ~]$


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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Samuel Sieb]

On 07/23/2018 11:06 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:

I need installation instructions to use this kernel, apparently. I've
got the copr enabled, but can't figure out how to actually install the
kernel and kernel modules.


If you used dnf to enable the copr repository, then "dnf list --all 
kernel" should show you at least one from there.  An upgrade won't work 
if the version in the copr is lower than the latest one in the main 
Fedora repo, so you might need to do a dnf install with the specific 
version.

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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Michal Novotny]

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:08 PM Chris Murphy 
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
>  wrote:
> > No offense but can you kindly rephrase whatever you said.Its kinda
> difficult
> > to decipher as your sentences seem to contradict.
>
>
> I need installation instructions to use this kernel, apparently. I've
> got the copr enabled, but can't figure out how to actually install the
> kernel and kernel modules.
>

I think you should be just able to do  $ sudo dnf upgrade kernel

clime


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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Chris Murphy]

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:08 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
 wrote:
> No offense but can you kindly rephrase whatever you said.Its kinda difficult
> to decipher as your sentences seem to contradict.


I need installation instructions to use this kernel, apparently. I've
got the copr enabled, but can't figure out how to actually install the
kernel and kernel modules.



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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

Thank you for the information,i'll look into and get back asap.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2018, 22:26 Rajeesh K V,  wrote:

>
> > What additional information would you like to know?
>> Like what you were running etc because i didn't notice anything that
>> weird on my end.Sorry for the delay have been busy with college work.
>>
>
> The processes run are listed in the mail on 16 July. The apps are mostly
> Firefox with half a dozen tabs or so, Konsole with few tabs, Dolphin etc on
> a KDE Plasma desktop. Occasionally postgresql database with a python2.7
> application, but the `perf' traces were taken while these aren't running.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Rajeesh K V]

> > What additional information would you like to know?
> Like what you were running etc because i didn't notice anything that weird
> on my end.Sorry for the delay have been busy with college work.
>

The processes run are listed in the mail on 16 July. The apps are mostly
Firefox with half a dozen tabs or so, Konsole with few tabs, Dolphin etc on
a KDE Plasma desktop. Occasionally postgresql database with a python2.7
application, but the `perf' traces were taken while these aren't running.


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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

> What additional information would you like to know?

Like what you were running etc because i didn't notice anything that weird
on my end.Sorry for the delay have been busy with college work.


On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Rajeesh K V 
wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Manas Mangaonkar <
> manasmangaon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can you give some more details as those would help Investigate the
>> problem better.
>>
>
> What additional information would you like to know?
>
> [P.S.: please avoid top-posting.]
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Rajeesh K V]

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Manas Mangaonkar 
wrote:

> Can you give some more details as those would help Investigate the problem
> better.
>

What additional information would you like to know?

[P.S.: please avoid top-posting.]

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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

No offense but can you kindly rephrase whatever you said.Its kinda
difficult to decipher as your sentences seem to contradict.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, 20:06 Chris Murphy,  wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
>  wrote:
> > The Actual Url
> >
>
>
> I've got the copr enabled, but I can't figure out how to install the
> kernel. Even though I don't have -devel -cross-headers -headers for
> this kernel installed, those packages are included in a normal 'dnf
> update' for some reason. But not the kernel. And 'dnf install kernel'
> just points out the obvious, that kernels are already installed.
>
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Chris Murphy]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
 wrote:
> The Actual Url
>


I've got the copr enabled, but I can't figure out how to install the
kernel. Even though I don't have -devel -cross-headers -headers for
this kernel installed, those packages are included in a normal 'dnf
update' for some reason. But not the kernel. And 'dnf install kernel'
just points out the obvious, that kernels are already installed.




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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

Can you give some more details as those would help Investigate the problem
better.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, 10:38 Rajeesh K V,  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:33 PM Manas Mangaonkar <
> manasmangaon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Actual Url
>> 
>>
>
> FYI, have been running kernel 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28.x86_64 since a
> day, haven't noticed any breakages :-)
> But 'swapper' process seems to be hyperactive compared to the fc28 4.17.6
> kernel. Output from $perf top -sort comm,dso
>
>   28.20%  swapper  [kernel]
>6.44%  konsole  libQt5Gui.so.5.10.1
>5.85%  plasmashell  [kernel]
>5.76%  Xorg [kernel]
>4.00%  konsole  [kernel]
>3.87%  kwin_x11 [kernel]
>2.96%  QXcbEventReader  [kernel]
>2.74%  Xorg libc-2.27.so
>2.66%  firefox  libxul.so
>2.50%  swapper  [unknown]
>2.35%  kworker/0:2-mm_  [kernel]
>2.34%  kworker/1:1-mm_  [kernel]
>2.01%  irq/51-SYNA2B29  [kernel]
>1.72%  Xorg Xorg
>1.54%  InputThread  [kernel]
>1.42%  konsole  libkonsoleprivate.so.17.12.2
>1.32%  plasmashell  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
>1.06%  konsole  libharfbuzz.so.0.10705.0
>1.03%  firefox  [kernel]
>0.92%  konsole  libQt5XcbQpa.so.5.10.1
>0.76%  kworker/u8:4-ev  [kernel]
>0.75%  kwin_x11 libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
>0.72%  konsole  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
>0.72%  perf libslang.so.2.3.2
>0.69%  kworker/0:3-eve  [kernel]
>0.60%  perf [kernel]
>0.58%  kwin_x11 i965_dri.so
>0.48%  plasmashell  libglib-2.0.so.0.5600.1
>0.45%  rcu_sched[kernel]
>0.43%  JS Helperlibxul.so
>0.39%  konsole  libpthread-2.27.so
>0.39%  kwin_x11 libkwin.so.5.13.3
>0.37%  kwin_x11 libc-2.27.so
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

Thabks

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, 12:29 Rajeesh K V,  wrote:

> On 7/19/18, Manas Mangaonkar  wrote:
> > Good to here there haven't been any breakages.
> >
> > I will look into the swapper process issue asap.
>
> Thanks.
> Output from $perf top -F 49
>
>  16.19%  [kernel]   [k] sdhci_irq
>7.72%  [unknown]  [.] 
>5.50%  [kernel]   [k] __lock_acquire
>2.70%  [kernel]   [k] lock_release
>2.14%  [kernel]   [k] lock_acquire
>1.95%  [kernel]   [k] lock_is_held_type
>1.73%  [kernel]   [k] native_sched_clock
>1.18%  [kernel]   [k] dw_readl
>1.17%  libc-2.27.so   [.]
> __memmove_avx_unaligned_erms
>1.07%  [kernel]   [k] lock_acquired
>1.05%  [kernel]   [k] __fget
>1.01%  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1   [.] QString::append
>0.85%  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1   [.] 0x002be7d4
>0.72%  [kernel]   [k] get_mem_cgroup_from_mm
>0.71%  [kernel]   [k] mark_lock
>0.69%  [kernel]   [k] __lock_is_held
>0.69%  [kernel]   [k] idma64_irq
>0.63%  libxul.so  [.] 0x0345edd4
>0.61%  [kernel]   [k] match_held_lock
>0.59%  [kernel]   [k] update_blocked_averages
>0.59%  [kernel]   [k] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
>0.58%  firefox[.] free
>0.58%  libpthread-2.27.so [.] __pthread_mutex_lock
>0.53%  [kernel]   [k] __schedule
>0.52%  [kernel]   [k] do_raw_spin_trylock
>0.52%  libc-2.27.so   [.] malloc
>0.49%  libxul.so  [.] 0x02543cd2
>0.49%  [kernel]   [k] sock_poll
>0.47%  [kernel]   [k] policy_node
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Rajeesh K V]

On 7/19/18, Manas Mangaonkar  wrote:
> Good to here there haven't been any breakages.
>
> I will look into the swapper process issue asap.

Thanks.
Output from $perf top -F 49

 16.19%  [kernel]   [k] sdhci_irq
   7.72%  [unknown]  [.] 
   5.50%  [kernel]   [k] __lock_acquire
   2.70%  [kernel]   [k] lock_release
   2.14%  [kernel]   [k] lock_acquire
   1.95%  [kernel]   [k] lock_is_held_type
   1.73%  [kernel]   [k] native_sched_clock
   1.18%  [kernel]   [k] dw_readl
   1.17%  libc-2.27.so   [.] __memmove_avx_unaligned_erms
   1.07%  [kernel]   [k] lock_acquired
   1.05%  [kernel]   [k] __fget
   1.01%  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1   [.] QString::append
   0.85%  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1   [.] 0x002be7d4
   0.72%  [kernel]   [k] get_mem_cgroup_from_mm
   0.71%  [kernel]   [k] mark_lock
   0.69%  [kernel]   [k] __lock_is_held
   0.69%  [kernel]   [k] idma64_irq
   0.63%  libxul.so  [.] 0x0345edd4
   0.61%  [kernel]   [k] match_held_lock
   0.59%  [kernel]   [k] update_blocked_averages
   0.59%  [kernel]   [k] _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
   0.58%  firefox[.] free
   0.58%  libpthread-2.27.so [.] __pthread_mutex_lock
   0.53%  [kernel]   [k] __schedule
   0.52%  [kernel]   [k] do_raw_spin_trylock
   0.52%  libc-2.27.so   [.] malloc
   0.49%  libxul.so  [.] 0x02543cd2
   0.49%  [kernel]   [k] sock_poll
   0.47%  [kernel]   [k] policy_node


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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

Good to here there haven't been any breakages.

I will look into the swapper process issue asap.

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018, 10:38 Rajeesh K V,  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:33 PM Manas Mangaonkar <
> manasmangaon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Actual Url
>> 
>>
>
> FYI, have been running kernel 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28.x86_64 since a
> day, haven't noticed any breakages :-)
> But 'swapper' process seems to be hyperactive compared to the fc28 4.17.6
> kernel. Output from $perf top -sort comm,dso
>
>   28.20%  swapper  [kernel]
>6.44%  konsole  libQt5Gui.so.5.10.1
>5.85%  plasmashell  [kernel]
>5.76%  Xorg [kernel]
>4.00%  konsole  [kernel]
>3.87%  kwin_x11 [kernel]
>2.96%  QXcbEventReader  [kernel]
>2.74%  Xorg libc-2.27.so
>2.66%  firefox  libxul.so
>2.50%  swapper  [unknown]
>2.35%  kworker/0:2-mm_  [kernel]
>2.34%  kworker/1:1-mm_  [kernel]
>2.01%  irq/51-SYNA2B29  [kernel]
>1.72%  Xorg Xorg
>1.54%  InputThread  [kernel]
>1.42%  konsole  libkonsoleprivate.so.17.12.2
>1.32%  plasmashell  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
>1.06%  konsole  libharfbuzz.so.0.10705.0
>1.03%  firefox  [kernel]
>0.92%  konsole  libQt5XcbQpa.so.5.10.1
>0.76%  kworker/u8:4-ev  [kernel]
>0.75%  kwin_x11 libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
>0.72%  konsole  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
>0.72%  perf libslang.so.2.3.2
>0.69%  kworker/0:3-eve  [kernel]
>0.60%  perf [kernel]
>0.58%  kwin_x11 i965_dri.so
>0.48%  plasmashell  libglib-2.0.so.0.5600.1
>0.45%  rcu_sched[kernel]
>0.43%  JS Helperlibxul.so
>0.39%  konsole  libpthread-2.27.so
>0.39%  kwin_x11 libkwin.so.5.13.3
>0.37%  kwin_x11 libc-2.27.so
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Rajeesh K V]

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:33 PM Manas Mangaonkar 
wrote:

> The Actual Url
> 
>

FYI, have been running kernel 4.18.0-0.rc0.git10.1.fc28.x86_64 since a day,
haven't noticed any breakages :-)
But 'swapper' process seems to be hyperactive compared to the fc28 4.17.6
kernel. Output from $perf top -sort comm,dso

  28.20%  swapper  [kernel]
   6.44%  konsole  libQt5Gui.so.5.10.1
   5.85%  plasmashell  [kernel]
   5.76%  Xorg [kernel]
   4.00%  konsole  [kernel]
   3.87%  kwin_x11 [kernel]
   2.96%  QXcbEventReader  [kernel]
   2.74%  Xorg libc-2.27.so
   2.66%  firefox  libxul.so
   2.50%  swapper  [unknown]
   2.35%  kworker/0:2-mm_  [kernel]
   2.34%  kworker/1:1-mm_  [kernel]
   2.01%  irq/51-SYNA2B29  [kernel]
   1.72%  Xorg Xorg
   1.54%  InputThread  [kernel]
   1.42%  konsole  libkonsoleprivate.so.17.12.2
   1.32%  plasmashell  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
   1.06%  konsole  libharfbuzz.so.0.10705.0
   1.03%  firefox  [kernel]
   0.92%  konsole  libQt5XcbQpa.so.5.10.1
   0.76%  kworker/u8:4-ev  [kernel]
   0.75%  kwin_x11 libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
   0.72%  konsole  libQt5Core.so.5.10.1
   0.72%  perf libslang.so.2.3.2
   0.69%  kworker/0:3-eve  [kernel]
   0.60%  perf [kernel]
   0.58%  kwin_x11 i965_dri.so
   0.48%  plasmashell  libglib-2.0.so.0.5600.1
   0.45%  rcu_sched[kernel]
   0.43%  JS Helperlibxul.so
   0.39%  konsole  libpthread-2.27.so
   0.39%  kwin_x11 libkwin.so.5.13.3
   0.37%  kwin_x11 libc-2.27.so


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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

The Actual Url


On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:01 AM, Chris Murphy 
wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
>  wrote:
> > Rpm Generation Done, Sorry for the really long delay. Request someone to
> > test it out.
> >
>
> URL?
>
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Chris Murphy]

On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
 wrote:
> Rpm Generation Done, Sorry for the really long delay. Request someone to
> test it out.
>

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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

Rpm Generation Done, Sorry for the really long delay. Request someone to
test it out.



On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Manas Mangaonkar  wrote:

> Just a update,Ended up with a somewhat broken kernel that had performance
> issues with the lts patches even after lot of tweaking.Apparently the clear
> linux base kernel source tree is stable and working with latest Linux
> kernels. Still working on it incase anyone is wondering if this was
> abandoned.
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Manas Mangaonkar <
> manasmangaon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> >The upstream non LTS kernels have had the mitigation for
>>> >meltdown/spectre longer than LTS and they likely have more robust
>>> >implementations. All Fedora releases have had fixes for some time.
>>>
>>
>> I meant the clear linux kernel,they seem to have diff kernel bundles
>> and i want to go with the Lts one.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > To get your feet wet, you could build a standard Fedora kernel using
>>> > one of these processes.
>>> >
>>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel
>>> >
>>> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/quick-docs/en-US/kernel/build
>>> -custom-kernel.html
>>> >
>>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel/Source_RPM
>>> >
>>> > Then, when you have that working, use the same procedure to build the
>>> > clear linux kernel from source.  That way you know that both compile
>>> > individually.
>>> >
>>> > The final step is just to ensure that once the Fedora kernel is patched
>>> > to support clear linux, it compiles also.  Then it will support the
>>> > Fedora enhancements to the kernel that haven't made it upstream yet
>>> > (and might never), and will run on any fedora system.
>>> >
>>> > I don't know if the clear linux kernel is compatible with other
>>> > architectures and video hardware.  If it isn't, it can only be run on
>>> > x86_64 with intel video hardware (no nvidia or amd additional video
>>> > hardware).  If it isn't compatible with other architectures or video
>>> > hardware, I don't think it makes sense to compile it as a Fedora
>>> > kernel, so you would be done after you get it building from source.
>>> > Not sure how useful such a kernel would be.
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>>
>>
>> The clear linux does run on amd hardware,at phoronix they tried it on the
>> new eypec cpu line from amd. Performs well and wont hinder performance.
>>
>> > hardware, I don't think it makes sense to compile it as a Fedora
>> > kernel, so you would be done after you get it building from source.
>> > Not sure how useful such a kernel would be.
>>
>> No nvidia or amd gpu support though.But for those who want pure computing
>> power for containers etc this can be a solid option,it does perform much
>> better than other linux distro kernels.
>>
>> I find this interesting,and a fun learning experience to get my feet wet.
>>
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

Just a update,Ended up with a somewhat broken kernel that had performance
issues with the lts patches even after lot of tweaking.Apparently the clear
linux base kernel source tree is stable and working with latest Linux
kernels. Still working on it incase anyone is wondering if this was
abandoned.

On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Manas Mangaonkar <
manasmangaon...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> >The upstream non LTS kernels have had the mitigation for
>> >meltdown/spectre longer than LTS and they likely have more robust
>> >implementations. All Fedora releases have had fixes for some time.
>>
>
> I meant the clear linux kernel,they seem to have diff kernel bundles
> and i want to go with the Lts one.
>
>
>>
>> > To get your feet wet, you could build a standard Fedora kernel using
>> > one of these processes.
>> >
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel
>> >
>> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/quick-docs/en-US/kernel/build
>> -custom-kernel.html
>> >
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel/Source_RPM
>> >
>> > Then, when you have that working, use the same procedure to build the
>> > clear linux kernel from source.  That way you know that both compile
>> > individually.
>> >
>> > The final step is just to ensure that once the Fedora kernel is patched
>> > to support clear linux, it compiles also.  Then it will support the
>> > Fedora enhancements to the kernel that haven't made it upstream yet
>> > (and might never), and will run on any fedora system.
>> >
>> > I don't know if the clear linux kernel is compatible with other
>> > architectures and video hardware.  If it isn't, it can only be run on
>> > x86_64 with intel video hardware (no nvidia or amd additional video
>> > hardware).  If it isn't compatible with other architectures or video
>> > hardware, I don't think it makes sense to compile it as a Fedora
>> > kernel, so you would be done after you get it building from source.
>> > Not sure how useful such a kernel would be.
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> The clear linux does run on amd hardware,at phoronix they tried it on the
> new eypec cpu line from amd. Performs well and wont hinder performance.
>
> > hardware, I don't think it makes sense to compile it as a Fedora
> > kernel, so you would be done after you get it building from source.
> > Not sure how useful such a kernel would be.
>
> No nvidia or amd gpu support though.But for those who want pure computing
> power for containers etc this can be a solid option,it does perform much
> better than other linux distro kernels.
>
> I find this interesting,and a fun learning experience to get my feet wet.
>
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

> >The upstream non LTS kernels have had the mitigation for
> >meltdown/spectre longer than LTS and they likely have more robust
> >implementations. All Fedora releases have had fixes for some time.
>

I meant the clear linux kernel,they seem to have diff kernel bundles
and i want to go with the Lts one.


>
> > To get your feet wet, you could build a standard Fedora kernel using
> > one of these processes.
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel
> >
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/quick-docs/en-US/kernel/
> build-custom-kernel.html
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel/Source_RPM
> >
> > Then, when you have that working, use the same procedure to build the
> > clear linux kernel from source.  That way you know that both compile
> > individually.
> >
> > The final step is just to ensure that once the Fedora kernel is patched
> > to support clear linux, it compiles also.  Then it will support the
> > Fedora enhancements to the kernel that haven't made it upstream yet
> > (and might never), and will run on any fedora system.
> >
> > I don't know if the clear linux kernel is compatible with other
> > architectures and video hardware.  If it isn't, it can only be run on
> > x86_64 with intel video hardware (no nvidia or amd additional video
> > hardware).  If it isn't compatible with other architectures or video
> > hardware, I don't think it makes sense to compile it as a Fedora
> > kernel, so you would be done after you get it building from source.
> > Not sure how useful such a kernel would be.
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The clear linux does run on amd hardware,at phoronix they tried it on the
new eypec cpu line from amd. Performs well and wont hinder performance.

> hardware, I don't think it makes sense to compile it as a Fedora
> kernel, so you would be done after you get it building from source.
> Not sure how useful such a kernel would be.

No nvidia or amd gpu support though.But for those who want pure computing
power for containers etc this can be a solid option,it does perform much
better than other linux distro kernels.

I find this interesting,and a fun learning experience to get my feet wet.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Peter Robinson]

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 4:11 PM, stan  wrote:
> On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:24:17 +0530
> Manas Mangaonkar  wrote:
>
>> For the record,I am going with the kernel Lts given that it has
>> patches for meltdown & spectre.
>
> There are recent kernels without the patches?  I think they are
> standard in all fedora kernels.

The upstream non LTS kernels have had the mitigation for
meltdown/spectre longer than LTS and they likely have more robust
implementations. All Fedora releases have had fixes for some time.

> To get your feet wet, you could build a standard Fedora kernel using
> one of these processes.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/quick-docs/en-US/kernel/build-custom-kernel.html
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel/Source_RPM
>
> Then, when you have that working, use the same procedure to build the
> clear linux kernel from source.  That way you know that both compile
> individually.
>
> The final step is just to ensure that once the Fedora kernel is patched
> to support clear linux, it compiles also.  Then it will support the
> Fedora enhancements to the kernel that haven't made it upstream yet
> (and might never), and will run on any fedora system.
>
> I don't know if the clear linux kernel is compatible with other
> architectures and video hardware.  If it isn't, it can only be run on
> x86_64 with intel video hardware (no nvidia or amd additional video
> hardware).  If it isn't compatible with other architectures or video
> hardware, I don't think it makes sense to compile it as a Fedora
> kernel, so you would be done after you get it building from source.
> Not sure how useful such a kernel would be.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[stan]

On Sat, 19 May 2018 16:24:17 +0530
Manas Mangaonkar  wrote:

> For the record,I am going with the kernel Lts given that it has
> patches for meltdown & spectre.

There are recent kernels without the patches?  I think they are
standard in all fedora kernels.

To get your feet wet, you could build a standard Fedora kernel using
one of these processes.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/quick-docs/en-US/kernel/build-custom-kernel.html

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel/Source_RPM

Then, when you have that working, use the same procedure to build the
clear linux kernel from source.  That way you know that both compile
individually.

The final step is just to ensure that once the Fedora kernel is patched
to support clear linux, it compiles also.  Then it will support the
Fedora enhancements to the kernel that haven't made it upstream yet
(and might never), and will run on any fedora system.

I don't know if the clear linux kernel is compatible with other
architectures and video hardware.  If it isn't, it can only be run on
x86_64 with intel video hardware (no nvidia or amd additional video
hardware).  If it isn't compatible with other architectures or video
hardware, I don't think it makes sense to compile it as a Fedora
kernel, so you would be done after you get it building from source.
Not sure how useful such a kernel would be.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

For the record,I am going with the kernel Lts given that it has patches for
meltdown & spectre.

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Manas Mangaonkar  wrote:

>
> On Thu, 17 May 2018, 1:08 p.m. Peter Robinson, 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
>>  wrote:
>> >> Put the patch name in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel.spec just before END OF
>> >> PATCHES.
>> >>
>> >> Run rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec
>> >>
>> >> You will have the kernel rpm files in ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64
>> >>
>> >> The gotchas are left as an exercise for the reader (if you are a
>> >> newbie, there will be lots of them).  :-)  And it's rough, there is a
>> >> lot of optimization that I left out.
>> >>
>> >> So it's a lot of work, but a great learning experience if you are up
>> >> for it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > okay,i'll give it a shot sounds fun will get to learn something. Cant
>> > guarantee a completion data though.15-20 days should be enough i guess.
>>
>> Maintaining a kernel isn't a one off event it's an ongoing process.
>> The vast majority of the work is getting the initial build working but
>> from there it's an ongoing process to keep it up to date to ensure
>> your users aren't vulnerable to CVEs etc.
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>  Ah,yes.Proposed the the above mentioned timeline for the initial build.I
> am ready to dedicate time to maintain it.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

On Thu, 17 May 2018, 1:08 p.m. Peter Robinson,  wrote:

> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
>  wrote:
> >> Put the patch name in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel.spec just before END OF
> >> PATCHES.
> >>
> >> Run rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec
> >>
> >> You will have the kernel rpm files in ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64
> >>
> >> The gotchas are left as an exercise for the reader (if you are a
> >> newbie, there will be lots of them).  :-)  And it's rough, there is a
> >> lot of optimization that I left out.
> >>
> >> So it's a lot of work, but a great learning experience if you are up
> >> for it.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > okay,i'll give it a shot sounds fun will get to learn something. Cant
> > guarantee a completion data though.15-20 days should be enough i guess.
>
> Maintaining a kernel isn't a one off event it's an ongoing process.
> The vast majority of the work is getting the initial build working but
> from there it's an ongoing process to keep it up to date to ensure
> your users aren't vulnerable to CVEs etc.
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 Ah,yes.Proposed the the above mentioned timeline for the initial build.I
am ready to dedicate time to maintain it.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Peter Robinson]

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 8:25 AM, Manas Mangaonkar
 wrote:
>> Put the patch name in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel.spec just before END OF
>> PATCHES.
>>
>> Run rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec
>>
>> You will have the kernel rpm files in ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64
>>
>> The gotchas are left as an exercise for the reader (if you are a
>> newbie, there will be lots of them).  :-)  And it's rough, there is a
>> lot of optimization that I left out.
>>
>> So it's a lot of work, but a great learning experience if you are up
>> for it.
>>
>>
>
> okay,i'll give it a shot sounds fun will get to learn something. Cant
> guarantee a completion data though.15-20 days should be enough i guess.

Maintaining a kernel isn't a one off event it's an ongoing process.
The vast majority of the work is getting the initial build working but
from there it's an ongoing process to keep it up to date to ensure
your users aren't vulnerable to CVEs etc.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

>
> Put the patch name in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel.spec just before END OF
> PATCHES.
>
> Run rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec
>
> You will have the kernel rpm files in ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64
>
> The gotchas are left as an exercise for the reader (if you are a
> newbie, there will be lots of them).  :-)  And it's rough, there is a
> lot of optimization that I left out.
>
> So it's a lot of work, but a great learning experience if you are up
> for it.
>
>
>
okay,i'll give it a shot sounds fun will get to learn something. Cant
guarantee a completion data though.15-20 days should be enough i guess.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[stan]

On Wed, 16 May 2018 20:39:02 +0530
Manas Mangaonkar  wrote:

> > Yes, if someone wishes to build and maintain that kernel.  
> 
> How difficult is this ? newbie, sophmore cse student but would like
> to give this a shot if this isn't too difficult.Want to start
> contributing.

I build a custom kernel from the src.rpm with a patch to random.c to add
code so that my hardware RNG is used to reseed the chacha20 PRNG on a
periodic basis.  That is similar, if easier, to what you would have to
do to maintain a different kernel.  The first time would be a bear, then
after that it would just be repeating the procedure.

I use the older rpmbuild method, so I'm not sure how that agrees with
the currently recommended method.  Here goes.  This is long, and a lot
of the details are missing.

Install the rpmbuild packages.

Run rpmbuild-setuptree to build the rpmbuild directory tree in your
home directory.

Go to koji and get the kernel src.rpm

Run rpm -ivh to install it to the rpmbuild directory.

I then use screen to have a bunch of terms available, so I'm not
constantly having to switch directories, but you could just switch
between a bunch of virtual consoles.

Go into the ~/rpmbuild/SPECS directory.  You'll see kernel.spec in
there.

Run rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec  to expand the source.

When it is done, go into the ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel[]/linux[]/
directory.  Since fedora now builds all kernels from a git repository,
it is necessary to build patches for them from that git repository.
It's a PITA, but necessary.

Run git add .

Run git commit -a

Just add a throwaway comment and save.

Run git status.

Everything should be up to date.

Run git config user.name "blah"

Run git config user.email "b...@blah.com"

Run git branch clear  to create a new branch for the clear linux kernel.

Run git checkout clear  to set that as the working branch.

This is more complicated than I need, since you are basically creating
a patch from the fedora kernel to the clear kernel.  Delete everything
in the branch except the hidden .git directory.

Grab the clear linux source tree and put it into the clear branch you
just cleaned up.  tar? git pull?

Run git add .

Run git commit -a.

Put in a comment and save.

Run git status to be sure the branch is clean.

Run git format-patch clear-linux

Put the resulting patch in ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES with a unique numerical
prefix.

Put the patch name in ~/rpmbuild/SPECS/kernel.spec just before END OF
PATCHES.

Run rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec

You will have the kernel rpm files in ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/x86_64

The gotchas are left as an exercise for the reader (if you are a
newbie, there will be lots of them).  :-)  And it's rough, there is a
lot of optimization that I left out.

So it's a lot of work, but a great learning experience if you are up
for it.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Stephen John Smoogen]

On 16 May 2018 at 11:09, Manas Mangaonkar  wrote:
>> Yes, if someone wishes to build and maintain that kernel.
>
> How difficult is this ? newbie, sophmore cse student but would like to give
> this a shot if this isn't too difficult.Want to start contributing.
>
>

It is going to be one of those, you aren't going to know until you
have tried to do it. You could look at one of the 'default' kernels
src.rpms and then set up a copr to build it in with the source code
you want. You can then work out the hangs/crashes/etc from there. I
would probably start with building something smaller in COPR so you
know what a spec file does, what copr does and what it can get.


>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:18 PM, Josh Boyer 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:39 PM Hayden Barnes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
>> third-party dnf repo?
>>
>> Yes, if someone wishes to build and maintain that kernel.
>>
>> josh
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Sérgio Basto]

On Wed, 2018-05-16 at 10:48 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:39 PM Hayden Barnes 
> wrote:
> 
> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
> 
> third-party dnf repo?
> 
> Yes, if someone wishes to build and maintain that kernel.

BTW : I'd like test drm-tip kernel 

https://cgit.freedesktop.org/drm-tip?
related with https://01.org/linuxgraphics/documentation/build-guide-0

anyone ? 

reference: 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103414#c16


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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Manas Mangaonkar]

> Yes, if someone wishes to build and maintain that kernel.

How difficult is this ? newbie, sophmore cse student but would like to give
this a shot if this isn't too difficult.Want to start contributing.



On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 8:18 PM, Josh Boyer 
wrote:

> On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:39 PM Hayden Barnes 
> wrote:
>
> > Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
> third-party dnf repo?
>
> Yes, if someone wishes to build and maintain that kernel.
>
> josh
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Josh Boyer]

On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:39 PM Hayden Barnes  wrote:

> Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a
third-party dnf repo?

Yes, if someone wishes to build and maintain that kernel.

josh
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Hayden Barnes]

Would it be possible to mirror the Clear Linux kernel in copr or a third-party 
dnf repo?

That would allow Fedora to keep it's general purpose kernel but then allow 
performance hounds to install the Clear Linux kernel.

There is something similar already for people who want to use upstream vanilla 
kernel.

The Clear Linux performance metrics posted by Phoronix are compelling.
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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Richard W.M. Jones]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:42:26AM +0200, František Zatloukal wrote:
> Hi,
> Phoronix recently release article[1] about Intel's Clear Linux with some
> cool graphs showing nice performance gain compared to Xubuntu.
> 
> I didn't have time to dig in and look how it's performing against Fedora,
> but I'd assume Fedora can be compared to Xubuntu in terms of compiler
> settings.
> 
> I think i'll be interesting to look into it and find out if Fedora can't
> tweak compiler settings (eg use LTO for critical things like Mesa, Kernel,
> ...). I think it could be interesting fo Fedora users to have this enabled
> if there are not any disadvantages other than compile time, compile memory
> usage and so on.
> 
> What do you think?

The article you posted seems to concentrate on graphics performance
which I've not looked at.  However I have looked at Intel's boot /
container performance in great detail.

I'm doing a bit of work improving the performance of qemu and the
kernel to match what Intel Clear Linux can do (which is impressive,
especially for running containers securely).

Unfortunately the Intel kernel is heavily patched with non-upstream
patches, and not even patches which could become upstream (they do
things like commenting out chunks of code with single line commit
messages).  There's not really any way we can use the Intel work
directly.  Also Intel's kernel uses a very cut-down configuration, but
Fedora kernel developers would prefer (with good reason) to ship a
single kernel image for all use cases, and by necessity that is a
"full fat" kernel.

So it's a long process.  I've proposed a talk about this subject at
the KVM Forum 2016 at the end of August.

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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Josh Boyer]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 5:02 AM, Matthew Miller
 wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:42:26AM +0200, František Zatloukal wrote:
>> I think i'll be interesting to look into it and find out if Fedora can't
>> tweak compiler settings (eg use LTO for critical things like Mesa, Kernel,
>> ...). I think it could be interesting fo Fedora users to have this enabled
>> if there are not any disadvantages other than compile time, compile memory
>> usage and so on.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> There might be some things to look at. But in general, Clear Linux can
> do that because they only care about Intel CPUs and, I think, only the
> newer versions. We want to also run well on AMD and (probably) older
> generations of hardware. So, for example, we use '-mtune=generic'.

Specifically for the kernel, I believe Intel is carrying patches to
enable LTO that are not upstream yet.  Andi Kleen is working on
pushing them upstream but they haven't made it as far as I know.

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Re: Intel's Clear Linux optimizations

[Matthew Miller]

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:42:26AM +0200, František Zatloukal wrote:
> I think i'll be interesting to look into it and find out if Fedora can't
> tweak compiler settings (eg use LTO for critical things like Mesa, Kernel,
> ...). I think it could be interesting fo Fedora users to have this enabled
> if there are not any disadvantages other than compile time, compile memory
> usage and so on.
> 
> What do you think?

There might be some things to look at. But in general, Clear Linux can
do that because they only care about Intel CPUs and, I think, only the
newer versions. We want to also run well on AMD and (probably) older
generations of hardware. So, for example, we use '-mtune=generic'.


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