Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-08 Thread Mat Booth
On 4 April 2014 17:59, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote:

>
> Broken deps for i386
> --
> [solr3]
> solr3-3.6.2-5.fc21.noarch requires
> mvn(org.apache.lucene:lucene-stempel)
> solr3-3.6.2-5.fc21.noarch requires
> mvn(org.apache.lucene:lucene-smartcn)
> solr3-3.6.2-5.fc21.noarch requires
> mvn(org.apache.lucene:lucene-phonetic)
> solr3-3.6.2-5.fc21.noarch requires
> mvn(org.apache.lucene:lucene-kuromoji)
> solr3-3.6.2-5.fc21.noarch requires
> mvn(org.apache.lucene:lucene-icu)
>
>
solr3 should be retired and dependent packages should be ported to solr4. I
think there is only one package that still requires solr3:

$ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires solr3
hibernate-search-0:4.5.0-1.fc21.noarch

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-08 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 04.04.2014 19:43, Mikolaj Izdebski pisze:
> On 04/04/2014 07:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>> Is it useful for these messages to go to the devel (or test, for that
>> matter) lists? They seem mostly to just raise the noise.
> 
> It is definitely useful, but I wish there was some way of excluding
> long-standing problems that no one cares to fix.

Also list of most common blockers would be nice.

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-07 Thread Jens Petersen
> It is definitely useful, but I wish there was some way of excluding
> long-standing problems that no one cares to fix.

It might be nice if there was a counter for how many weeks
they have been broken, though probably a bit harder to implement.

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-06 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 04/06/2014 03:11 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:
> [totpcgi]
> totpcgi-selinux-0.5.5-1.fc21.noarch requires
> file:///usr/share/doc/selinux-policy/html/index.html
> 
> If I understand correctly such packages which need extra selinux policy,
> shouldn't they depend on a more vital dep instead of this?
> 
> 
> 

According to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELinux_Policy_Modules_Packaging_Draft#Runtime_Dependencies
it looks like there are some updated ways of setting %selinux_policyver
for Fedora 20+.

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-06 Thread Christopher Meng
[totpcgi]
totpcgi-selinux-0.5.5-1.fc21.noarch requires
file:///usr/share/doc/selinux-policy/html/index.html

If I understand correctly such packages which need extra selinux policy,
shouldn't they depend on a more vital dep instead of this?
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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-05 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 09:08:57 -0600
Orion Poplawski  wrote:

> Like wise.  The one change that might be nice would be to try would be
> to consolidate the broken deps a bit - just a single note that a
> package has broken dep in all arches (and listing those deps) rather
> than repeating three times.  It also will not scale if we add more
> primary architectures.  Where is the source for this mail?

I'm glad you asked. ;) 

The base calls are all in the buildrawhide script:  

https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/releng/tree/scripts/buildrawhide#n195

basically it's the start time, the depcheck
from /usr/share/mash/spam-o-matic (in the mash package) 
repodiff output from the previous day
and finish time. 

So, the depcheck part is in mash: 
https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/mash/tree/utils/spam-o-matic

Ideas for better output welcome!

kevin


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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-05 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 04/04/2014 01:17 PM, Al Dunsmuir wrote:
> On Friday, April 4, 2014, 1:42:49 PM, Matthew Milleru wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:32:57AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>>> As far as I am concerned they are very useful. In more detail I am
>>> looking mostly at "Broken deps" and "Summaries", with only an occasional
>>> peek at a changelog information, but on a number of occasions these
>>> messages were crucial for me in disentangling broken dependencies on
>>> my rawhide installation and/or filing some packaging bugs.  Without that
>>> information I would have a much harder time and either would add some
>>> spurious junk to bugzilla or would not bother at all.
 They seem mostly to just raise the noise.
>>> As opposed to what?
> 
>> As opposed to meaningful discussion generated intentionally by human
>> collaborators. But it appears that quite a few people do find them
>> beneficial, and that's all I was asking.
> 
> Very beneficial.
> 
> Knowing  the  state of Rawhide (based on changes, and what is known to
> be  broken)  seems  like  critical  information  for  someone using or
> testing   on  Rawhide.
> 
> Unfortunately,   not  all  changes  that  affect  other  packages  are
> announced  in the fedora-announce list. Seeing replies to the "rawhide
> report" is usually a heads up that someone broke something.
> 
> Putting  these and other script-generated reports elsewhere just makes
> it harder for folks to keep track on what is happening.
> 
> Al
> 

Like wise.  The one change that might be nice would be to try would be
to consolidate the broken deps a bit - just a single note that a package
has broken dep in all arches (and listing those deps) rather than
repeating three times.  It also will not scale if we add more primary
architectures.  Where is the source for this mail?

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-05 Thread David Tardon
Hi,

On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 01:42:49PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:32:57AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> > As far as I am concerned they are very useful. In more detail I am
> > looking mostly at "Broken deps" and "Summaries", with only an occasional
> > peek at a changelog information, but on a number of occasions these
> > messages were crucial for me in disentangling broken dependencies on
> > my rawhide installation and/or filing some packaging bugs.  Without that
> > information I would have a much harder time and either would add some
> > spurious junk to bugzilla or would not bother at all.
> > > They seem mostly to just raise the noise.
> > As opposed to what?
> 
> As opposed to meaningful discussion generated intentionally by human
> collaborators. But it appears that quite a few people do find them
> beneficial, and that's all I was asking.

As far as I am concerned, these mails are more useful than a significant
part of the "meaningful discussion generated intentionally by human
collaborators". For one thing, it is the easiest way to discover which
packages have been newly added to Fedora.

Out of curiosity: do you really find one additional mail per day a
problem, in the context of the usual traffic on fedora-devel?

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-04 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 01:14:30PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> Is it useful for these messages to go to the devel (or test, for that
> matter) lists? They seem mostly to just raise the noise.

To add to what others have said, I also find this a useful message.

Rich.

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-04 Thread Al Dunsmuir
On Friday, April 4, 2014, 1:42:49 PM, Matthew Milleru wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:32:57AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
>> As far as I am concerned they are very useful. In more detail I am
>> looking mostly at "Broken deps" and "Summaries", with only an occasional
>> peek at a changelog information, but on a number of occasions these
>> messages were crucial for me in disentangling broken dependencies on
>> my rawhide installation and/or filing some packaging bugs.  Without that
>> information I would have a much harder time and either would add some
>> spurious junk to bugzilla or would not bother at all.
>> > They seem mostly to just raise the noise.
>> As opposed to what?

> As opposed to meaningful discussion generated intentionally by human
> collaborators. But it appears that quite a few people do find them
> beneficial, and that's all I was asking.

Very beneficial.

Knowing  the  state of Rawhide (based on changes, and what is known to
be  broken)  seems  like  critical  information  for  someone using or
testing   on  Rawhide.

Unfortunately,   not  all  changes  that  affect  other  packages  are
announced  in the fedora-announce list. Seeing replies to the "rawhide
report" is usually a heads up that someone broke something.

Putting  these and other script-generated reports elsewhere just makes
it harder for folks to keep track on what is happening.

Al

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-04 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 04/04/2014 07:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> Is it useful for these messages to go to the devel (or test, for that
> matter) lists? They seem mostly to just raise the noise.

It is definitely useful, but I wish there was some way of excluding
long-standing problems that no one cares to fix.

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 11:32:57AM -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> As far as I am concerned they are very useful. In more detail I am
> looking mostly at "Broken deps" and "Summaries", with only an occasional
> peek at a changelog information, but on a number of occasions these
> messages were crucial for me in disentangling broken dependencies on
> my rawhide installation and/or filing some packaging bugs.  Without that
> information I would have a much harder time and either would add some
> spurious junk to bugzilla or would not bother at all.
> > They seem mostly to just raise the noise.
> As opposed to what?

As opposed to meaningful discussion generated intentionally by human
collaborators. But it appears that quite a few people do find them
beneficial, and that's all I was asking.

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-04 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 07:39:18PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> I'm definitely going through this email every day. Not just to see what
> is broken but what is new as well.

Okay, carry on then. Just checking!

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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-04 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 4.4.2014 19:14, Matthew Miller napsal(a):
> [snip]
>
> Is it useful for these messages to go to the devel (or test, for that
> matter) lists? They seem mostly to just raise the noise.
>
>
>

I'm definitely going through this email every day. Not just to see what
is broken but what is new as well.


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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-04 Thread Dennis Gilmore
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 13:14:30 -0400
Matthew Miller  wrote:

> [snip]
> 
> Is it useful for these messages to go to the devel (or test, for that
> matter) lists? They seem mostly to just raise the noise.
> 
> 
> 

it is very useful to see what is changed and what is broken. if people
fixed their broken deps quicker then it would be much more useful.

Dennis
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Re: rawhide report: 20140404 changes

2014-04-04 Thread Matthew Miller
[snip]

Is it useful for these messages to go to the devel (or test, for that
matter) lists? They seem mostly to just raise the noise.



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