Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-05-06 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ivana Hutarova Varekova wrote:
 On 05/06/2010 01:28 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
  - Ivana Varekovavarek...@redhat.com  wrote:
  Sorry for the late response, this solution seems fine for me. From my
  
  point of view man and man-db sould provide man-reader.
  Ivana
  
  Has man-pages-reader changed applied to Fedora 13?
  If not, will it?
 
 Hello,
 for now man-pages-reader are provides by man in fc13, fc14 and man-db in
 fc14.

FWIW I don't see a benefit of providing/requiring man-pages-reader over simply 
/usr/bin/man, and using the latter is backwards compatible.
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Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-05-05 Thread Ding Yi Chen

- Ivana Varekova varek...@redhat.com wrote:

 Sorry for the late response, this solution seems fine for me. From my
 
 point of view man and man-db sould provide man-reader.
 Ivana
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Has man-pages-reader changed applied to Fedora 13?
If not, will it?

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Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-05-05 Thread Ivana Hutarova Varekova
On 05/06/2010 01:28 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote:
 - Ivana Varekovavarek...@redhat.com  wrote:


 Sorry for the late response, this solution seems fine for me. From my

 point of view man and man-db sould provide man-reader.
 Ivana
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 Has man-pages-reader changed applied to Fedora 13?
 If not, will it?


Hello,
for now man-pages-reader are provides by man in fc13, fc14 and man-db in 
fc14. man-db is fedora from 14 so there is no 13 version.
The man in 13 provides the tag just for the purpose to fix possible 
problem if the maintainer of packages uses this flag in fc13 too, it  
have not any other reason there now.
Ivana Hutarova Varekova
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Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-04-01 Thread Ivana Varekova
On 03/10/2010 05:27 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 14:59 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

 There is no strong dependency between man and man-pages.

 man is just one utility amongst many utilities which can be used to
 process man-pages.
  
 Perhaps it would make sense to introduce a Provides:(man-reader) or some
 such and add a Requires on the same in the man pages.  That way any of
 the things which consume man pages can satisfy the requirement, not
 necessarily being man itself.  Seems a little obnoxious, but if the
 desire is to prevent a hard man-pages -  man requirement...


Sorry for the late response, this solution seems fine for me. From my 
point of view man and man-db sould provide man-reader.
Ivana
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Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-10 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 14:59 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
 
 There is no strong dependency between man and man-pages.
 
 man is just one utility amongst many utilities which can be used to 
 process man-pages. 

Perhaps it would make sense to introduce a Provides:(man-reader) or some
such and add a Requires on the same in the man pages.  That way any of
the things which consume man pages can satisfy the requirement, not
necessarily being man itself.  Seems a little obnoxious, but if the
desire is to prevent a hard man-pages - man requirement...

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Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 11:56 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
 On 03/10/2010 11:40 AM, Ivana Hutarova Varekova wrote:
  from my point of view, the vast majority of users uses man to show the
  wanted man-page content (the reason to add the dependency).
 
 Agreed.
 
 Actually, I am having problems to imagine any system without man 
 installed, esp. because SUSV/POSIX mandates man to be present.

You think Fedora has to be POSIX?  That's adorable.

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Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-08 Thread Alain Portal
Le Lundi 8 Mars 2010 11:25:40, Ivana Hutarova Varekova a écrit :
  For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language
 mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk})
 and man-pages package.
  Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man package. I
 think man dependences should be consistent in all man-pages* packages.
  From my point of view man dependency should be in all of them.
  Any ideas?

Fully agree.

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Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/08/2010 11:25 AM, Ivana Hutarova Varekova wrote:
   For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language
 mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk})
 and man-pages package.
   Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man package. I
 think man dependences should be consistent in all man-pages* packages.
   From my point of view man dependency should be in all of them.

There is no strong dependency between man and man-pages.

man is just one utility amongst many utilities which can be used to 
process man-pages.

Ralf
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