Re: Retiring Celestia from Fedora due to licensing issues

2024-03-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 04:36:02PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
> After I requested [1] Celestia project upstream to better define 
> licensing of all the textures and 3d models included in upstream data, 
> it turned out that at least some content is licensed CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0 [2] 
> which is not permitted in Fedora.
> 
> Upstream is still working on specify exactly the licenses of each file 
> and, maybe, in future will replace the problematic content with FOSS 
> textures. However, since there's no ETA for those tasks and the main 
> program cannot work by simply stripping out the problematic content, I 
> am forced to retire Celestia from Fedora.
> 
> I will be following the procedure for completely removing a package [3], 
> however there are a couple of things that I'd like to ask:
> 
> - should I wait for the flatpak maintainer to retire the flatpaks 
> (celestia-gtk and celestia-qt) before retiring the RPMs (celestia and 
> celestia-content)?

I don't think thats needed. The flatpak will not be able to build after
the rpm is gone, but thats ok, it shouldn't be in this case. 

> - do I need to ask releng to purge celestia sources from the lookaside 
> cache as well?

I'm not sure? Perhaps we could try and ask on the legal list?
We aren't really 'distributing' it there, just using that as part of our
build process. But of course it's available there.

> -do the flatpaks need to be added to fedora-obsolete-packages (or 
> something similar for flatpaks)?

Not sure on this one either. Would ask the flatpak sig.

kevin


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Re: Retiring Celestia from Fedora due to licensing issues

2024-03-20 Thread Ian Laurie

On 3/21/24 03:36, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:

I will be following the procedure for completely removing a package [3],
however there are a couple of things that I'd like to ask:


I think the Astronomy Labs version of Fedora ships with Celestia so
their group will needs a heads up.

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Re: Retiring Celestia from Fedora due to licensing issues

2024-03-20 Thread Otto Liljalaakso
I do not have the answers to your questions, but when figure out how to 
properly do this, please submit an update for the docs. That section has always 
looked very suspect to me.

20. maaliskuuta 2024 18.36.02 GMT+02:00 Mattia Verga via devel 
 kirjoitti:
>After I requested [1] Celestia project upstream to better define 
>licensing of all the textures and 3d models included in upstream data, 
>it turned out that at least some content is licensed CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0 [2] 
>which is not permitted in Fedora.
>
>Upstream is still working on specify exactly the licenses of each file 
>and, maybe, in future will replace the problematic content with FOSS 
>textures. However, since there's no ETA for those tasks and the main 
>program cannot work by simply stripping out the problematic content, I 
>am forced to retire Celestia from Fedora.
>
>I will be following the procedure for completely removing a package [3], 
>however there are a couple of things that I'd like to ask:
>
>- should I wait for the flatpak maintainer to retire the flatpaks 
>(celestia-gtk and celestia-qt) before retiring the RPMs (celestia and 
>celestia-content)?
>- do I need to ask releng to purge celestia sources from the lookaside 
>cache as well?
>-do the flatpaks need to be added to fedora-obsolete-packages (or 
>something similar for flatpaks)?
>
>Thanks
>Mattia
>
>[1] https://github.com/CelestiaProject/CelestiaContent/issues/138
>[2] https://github.com/CelestiaProject/CelestiaContent/issues/147
>[3] 
>https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Retirement_Process/#complete_removal
>
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Retiring Celestia from Fedora due to licensing issues

2024-03-20 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
After I requested [1] Celestia project upstream to better define 
licensing of all the textures and 3d models included in upstream data, 
it turned out that at least some content is licensed CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0 [2] 
which is not permitted in Fedora.

Upstream is still working on specify exactly the licenses of each file 
and, maybe, in future will replace the problematic content with FOSS 
textures. However, since there's no ETA for those tasks and the main 
program cannot work by simply stripping out the problematic content, I 
am forced to retire Celestia from Fedora.

I will be following the procedure for completely removing a package [3], 
however there are a couple of things that I'd like to ask:

- should I wait for the flatpak maintainer to retire the flatpaks 
(celestia-gtk and celestia-qt) before retiring the RPMs (celestia and 
celestia-content)?
- do I need to ask releng to purge celestia sources from the lookaside 
cache as well?
-do the flatpaks need to be added to fedora-obsolete-packages (or 
something similar for flatpaks)?

Thanks
Mattia

[1] https://github.com/CelestiaProject/CelestiaContent/issues/138
[2] https://github.com/CelestiaProject/CelestiaContent/issues/147
[3] 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Retirement_Process/#complete_removal

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