Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-11-12)

2018-11-13 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 12:41 -0500, Randy Barlow wrote:
> Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
> FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
> irc.freenode.net.

We did not reach quorum yesterday, so the meeting was canceled.


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Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-11-12)

2018-11-12 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 2018-11-10 at 20:54 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> I'd like to discuss with FESCo: What can I do about Fedora policies
> that 
> are not happening. Notably, I mean policies for removing cruft from
> Fedora.
> 
> 1) Long orphaned packages are not being retired after 6 weeks:
> 
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970
> 
> 2) FTBFS package are not being orphaned, nor retired:
> 
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973
> https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7718

Sure thing!


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Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-11-12)

2018-11-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Raphael Groner wrote:
> thanks for pointing to these still open topics but promised since ages. My
> vote goes for you and thanks also for your effort.
> 
> It would be really appreciated to see those zombie packages being finally
> dropped.
> 
> Promises without fulfillment at any time are just painful. So let's go for
> and apply this small mass retirement.

I disagree. If the packages still work, dropping them is a disservice for 
our users. I think these mass deletions should just deliberately stop 
happening.

Kevin Kofler
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Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-11-12)

2018-11-11 Thread Raphael Groner
Hi Miro,

> 1) Long orphaned packages are not being retired after 6 weeks
> 2) FTBFS package are not being orphaned, nor retired

thanks for pointing to these still open topics but promised since ages. My vote 
goes for you and thanks also for your effort. 

It would be really appreciated to see those zombie packages being finally 
dropped.

Promises without fulfillment at any time are just painful. So let's go for and 
apply this small mass retirement.

Regards, Raphael
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Re: Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-11-12)

2018-11-10 Thread Miro Hrončok

On 10. 11. 18 18:41, Randy Barlow wrote:

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto

or run:
   date -d '2018-11-12 15:00 UTC'


Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at:
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda


= Followups =

#topic #2003 Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003


= New business =

#topic #2009 libsolv SONAME bump in stable
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2009

#topic #2013 to strict rules for branches deletion alongside with norules for 
theirs creations
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2013


= Open Floor =

For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
reply to this e-mail


Hello Randy.

I'd like to discuss with FESCo: What can I do about Fedora policies that 
are not happening. Notably, I mean policies for removing cruft from Fedora.


1) Long orphaned packages are not being retired after 6 weeks:

https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1970

2) FTBFS package are not being orphaned, nor retired:

https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1973
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7718

I'll be on the meeting.

Thanks.

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Schedule for Monday's FESCo Meeting (2018-11-12)

2018-11-10 Thread Randy Barlow
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
FESCo meeting Monday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto

or run:
  date -d '2018-11-12 15:00 UTC'


Links to all issues to be discussed can be found at: 
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda


= Followups =

#topic #2003 Ursa Major (modules in buildroot) enablement
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2003


= New business =

#topic #2009 libsolv SONAME bump in stable
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2009

#topic #2013 to strict rules for branches deletion alongside with norules for 
theirs creations
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2013


= Open Floor = 

For more complete details, please visit each individual
issue.  The report of the agenda items can be found at
https://pagure.io/fesco/report/meeting_agenda

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can
reply to this e-mail, file a new issue at
https://pagure.io/fesco, e-mail me directly, or bring it
up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note
that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.


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