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#fedora-meeting: FESCo (2014-11-12)
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Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-11-12/fesco.2014-11-12-18.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 18:00:03)
* #1365 A unique system-wide TMP directory for all programs and sane
ways to retrieve the default (nirik, 18:02:24)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1365 (nirik, 18:02:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161110#c4
(nirik, 18:06:18)
* AGREED: FESCo does not currently want to mandate $TMPDIR being
reliably consistent throughout an user session. If claws-mail
requires a consistent place to use, it should use a different
mecahnism. (+6,0,0) (nirik, 18:21:26)
* #1359 Automatic OpenH264 download by Firefox (nirik, 18:21:47)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1359 (nirik, 18:21:48)
* AGREED: ask firefox maintainers to disable automatic download of
OpenH264 plugin (+6,0,1) (nirik, 18:32:04)
* nirik will draft a page (nirik, 18:35:28)
* AGREED: will keep ticket open a week for interested parties to
propose longer term solutions. (+6, 0, 0) (nirik, 18:48:21)
* next weeks chair (nirik, 18:48:33)
* t8m to chair next week. (nirik, 18:49:42)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:49:45)
Meeting ended at 18:52:35 UTC.
Action Items
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (84)
* mitr (50)
* jwb (43)
* t8m (32)
* kalev (28)
* dgilmore (19)
* drago01 (14)
* mattdm (12)
* thozza (10)
* zodbot (6)
* mclasen (4)
* pjones (2)
* mmaslano (0)
* sgallagh (0)
* stickster (0)
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18:00:03 nirik #startmeeting FESCo (2014-11-12)
18:00:03 zodbot Meeting started Wed Nov 12 18:00:03 2014 UTC. The chair is
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18:00:03 nirik #meetingname fesco
18:00:03 nirik #chair dgilmore jwb kalev mattdm mitr mmaslano nirik sgallagh
stickster t8m thozza
18:00:03 nirik #topic init process
18:00:03 zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
18:00:03 zodbot Current chairs: dgilmore jwb kalev mattdm mitr mmaslano nirik
sgallagh stickster t8m thozza
18:00:10 thozza hi
18:00:13 jwb hi
18:00:14 mitr Hello
18:00:25 kalev hi
18:00:38 nirik morning everyone.
18:01:01 mattdm hello!
18:02:15 nirik ok, I guess lets dive in. A pretty short agenda today...
18:02:24 nirik #topic #1365 A unique system-wide TMP directory for all
programs and sane ways to retrieve the default
18:02:24 nirik .fesco 1365
18:02:24 nirik https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1365
18:02:26 zodbot nirik: #1365 (A unique system-wide TMP directory for all
programs and sane ways to retrieve the default) – FESCo -
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1365
18:02:34 nirik this sort of stalled out after last week...
18:03:04 nirik firefox folks removed their hack...
18:03:31 nirik so they use /tmp again in rawhide.
18:04:14 kalev that sounds like a regression
18:04:35 nirik regression?
18:04:46 kalev downloading multi gigabyte files into /tmp would probably
easily fill it up
18:04:48 mattdm well, that's going to fill up with big downloads
18:04:59 nirik well, only if people don't say where to download them too...
18:05:05 dgilmore hola
18:05:07 t8m hi, sorry for being late
18:05:15 nirik it only uses that until the save dialog not answered.
18:05:46 nirik so I guess somone could save an iso and not answer the dialog
and fill up space.
18:05:47 mitr While I have questions around that, I’m not sure we should be
micromanaging individual component’s behavior
18:05:49 kalev my understanding is that they should continue using /var/tmp
for that purpose
18:06:12 mitr If we ended up researching Firefox and proposing Firefox
changes today, that would get us no closer to resolving 1365
18:06:18 nirik https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1161110#c4
18:06:30 * nirik is with mitr
18:06:31 t8m mitr, +1
18:06:38 kalev which they did previously, but the problem was the way they
achieved it, by overriding the TMPDIR variable which incidentally then also
override it in the env passed to other programs
18:06:48 nirik so do we have some distro wide policy or proposal here?
18:07:04 mitr Proposal: design a sane system-wide API with a single
implementation.
18:07:09 mitr There, that’s going to help, isn’t it?
18:07:09 t8m kalev, they want to stop that and use /tmp from now
18:07:12 * mitr shuts up
18:07:23 nirik mitr: sure... but then the questions come. ;)
18:07:26 t8m mitr, heh
18:07:40 t8m mitr, is there actually a way tho get a sane API?
18:08:05 mitr t8m: All it would take is FESCo saying Thou Shalt Use $library
and “I don’t like it” doesn’
18:08:09 mitr t count as a reason not to.
18:08:17 mitr
