Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 1:18 PM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > recordmydesktop was retired in F27: > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4RCB6MBC4JVGG4SYLIKUDOOT2REGA6N4/ > > It's claimed that it doesn't work and is full of crash bugs, but I was > able to compile it on F29 and it works fine for me, and it's a very > useful little tool. > Rich, it depends on what you want to use it for. However, I regularly use Peek installed from Flathub and I'm very happy with it. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 19:50, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:17:00 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > recordmydesktop was retired in F27: > > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4RCB6MBC4JVGG4SYLIKUDOOT2REGA6N4/ > > > > It's claimed that it doesn't work and is full of crash bugs, but I was > > able to compile it on F29 and it works fine for me, and it's a very > > useful little tool. > > Quoting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1538352#c1 > > | Yes, recordmydesktop was intentionally retired due to the project being > | abandoned (no new release in 10 years), it contained many crash bugs, > | and was not at all working on Wayland. > > There are various WONTFIX and EOL issues tracked in bugzilla. Bringing > back the package without going through those tickets first doesn't sound > like a good idea. > Agreed. Not only did I get quite regular abrt reports for both recordmydesktop and gtk-recordmydesktop, I also received a good deal of flak from people who had the (quite reasonable, IMO) expectation that it would work on our default windowing system... So I suppose you take ownership of it at your own peril. -- Mat Booth http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:40 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 12:59:40PM +0100, Felipe Borges wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:19 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > > On 11/6/18 6:21 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > > Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800: > > > >> On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > >>> On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland > > > can't be > > > held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland > > > since > > > that isn't supported yet. > > > >>> > > > >>> GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. > > > >> > > > >> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have > > > >> support > > > >> for that now? > > > > > > > > You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not > only > > > > the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg. > > > > Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen > frames) > > > > is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover. > > > > > > Then it's time to port vino to PipeWire, so I don't have to disable > > > Wayland on all the systems I install. > > > > See https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop > > >When is Wayland going to get X11-style >remote applications support? > > >Rich. > When someone big tells RH that RHEL 8 w/ wayland is a non starter until that is fixed. Same way that you finally got local plain text logs under systemd. > > > ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On Thu, Nov 08, 2018 at 12:59:40PM +0100, Felipe Borges wrote: > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:19 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > On 11/6/18 6:21 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800: > > >> On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > >>> On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland > > can't be > > held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland > > since > > that isn't supported yet. > > >>> > > >>> GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. > > >> > > >> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have > > >> support > > >> for that now? > > > > > > You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not only > > > the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg. > > > Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen frames) > > > is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover. > > > > Then it's time to port vino to PipeWire, so I don't have to disable > > Wayland on all the systems I install. > > See https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop When is Wayland going to get X11-style remote applications support? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-df lists disk usage of guests without needing to install any software inside the virtual machine. Supports Linux and Windows. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-df/ ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 8:19 PM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 11/6/18 6:21 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800: > >> On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland > can't be > held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland > since > that isn't supported yet. > >>> > >>> GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. > >> > >> Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have > >> support > >> for that now? > > > > You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not only > > the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg. > > Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen frames) > > is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover. > > Then it's time to port vino to PipeWire, so I don't have to disable > Wayland on all the systems I install. See https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On 11/6/18 6:21 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800: On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since that isn't supported yet. GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have support for that now? You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not only the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg. Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen frames) is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover. Then it's time to port vino to PipeWire, so I don't have to disable Wayland on all the systems I install. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
Samuel Sieb píše v Po 05. 11. 2018 v 17:07 -0800: > On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland > > > can't be > > > held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland > > > since > > > that isn't supported yet. > > > > GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. > > Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have > support > for that now? You can either use Mutter API (several utilities can do that, not only the built-in tool) or newly PipeWire. Works both on Wayland and Xorg. Screen recording (or more precisely providing apps with screen frames) is not something Wayland as a protocol covers and plans to cover. Jiri ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
Je lun, 2018-11-05 je 17:07 -0800, Samuel Sieb skribis: > > GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. > > Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have support > for that now? I believe the recording happens in the same process as the Wayland compositor. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On Mon, 2018-11-05 at 17:07 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be > > > held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since > > > that isn't supported yet. > > > > GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. > > Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have support > for that now? I've no idea. I just know it works. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On 11/5/18 12:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since that isn't supported yet. GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. Does that use a Gnome shell-specific API or does Wayland have support for that now? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On Sun, 2018-11-04 at 16:42 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/4/18 11:47 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Quoting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1538352#c1 > > > > > Yes, recordmydesktop was intentionally retired due to the project being > > > abandoned (no new release in 10 years), it contained many crash bugs, > > > and was not at all working on Wayland. > > I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be > held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since > that isn't supported yet. GNOME's inbuilt screen recorder does it fine. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On 11/4/18 11:47 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Quoting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1538352#c1 | Yes, recordmydesktop was intentionally retired due to the project being | abandoned (no new release in 10 years), it contained many crash bugs, | and was not at all working on Wayland. I don't know about the other bugs, but not working on Wayland can't be held against it. Nothing works to record the desktop on Wayland since that isn't supported yet. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unretire recordmydesktop
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 12:17:00 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > recordmydesktop was retired in F27: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4RCB6MBC4JVGG4SYLIKUDOOT2REGA6N4/ > > It's claimed that it doesn't work and is full of crash bugs, but I was > able to compile it on F29 and it works fine for me, and it's a very > useful little tool. Quoting https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1538352#c1 | Yes, recordmydesktop was intentionally retired due to the project being | abandoned (no new release in 10 years), it contained many crash bugs, | and was not at all working on Wayland. There are various WONTFIX and EOL issues tracked in bugzilla. Bringing back the package without going through those tickets first doesn't sound like a good idea. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Unretire recordmydesktop
recordmydesktop was retired in F27: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/4RCB6MBC4JVGG4SYLIKUDOOT2REGA6N4/ It's claimed that it doesn't work and is full of crash bugs, but I was able to compile it on F29 and it works fine for me, and it's a very useful little tool. Therefore I'd like to unretire the package and maintain it. Actually there are two: recordmydesktop and gtk-recordmydesktop. This announcement on devel list is persuant to the guidelines[1]. If no one objects in a few days I'll continue the rest of the process. (Do we really need to re-review packages ...? That seems tedious.) Rich. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers#Claiming_Ownership_of_a_Retired_Package -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-top ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org