Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-28 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 1/28/23 18:06, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:31 PM Reon Beon via devel
>  wrote:
>>
>> Are there still some outstanding bugs preventing this from happening?
> 
> Is there any one critical feature that justifies the update? Avoiding
> the requirement of python is... OK, maybe understandable, but I don't
> see it as a "must-have" improvement. And better modularity support
> My observation so far is that modularity simply destabilizes systems,
> because the authors of the "modularized" tools do not build up the
> full suites of likely necessary components. I'm running into that
> right now with python310 back in RHEL 8 for ansible, the results are
> not pretty.

At this point it might be better to just containerize Ansible.
Containers may waste resources and require extra effort to keep
up-to-date, but they *work*, and that is important.  They also
*massively* reduce the test burden.
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Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:31 PM Reon Beon via devel
 wrote:
>
> Are there still some outstanding bugs preventing this from happening?

Is there any one critical feature that justifies the update? Avoiding
the requirement of python is... OK, maybe understandable, but I don't
see it as a "must-have" improvement. And better modularity support
My observation so far is that modularity simply destabilizes systems,
because the authors of the "modularized" tools do not build up the
full suites of likely necessary components. I'm running into that
right now with python310 back in RHEL 8 for ansible, the results are
not pretty.
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Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-26 Thread Reon Beon via devel
Thanks. Here is the Feodra 29 Milestone for DNF5:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/milestone/1
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Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-26 Thread Ben Beasley
It is proposed as a Change for Fedora 39. There are indeed quite a few features 
that will need to be completed between now and then.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceDnfWithDnf5

https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2870

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 8:30 PM, Reon Beon via devel wrote:
> Are there still some outstanding bugs preventing this from happening?
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Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-26 Thread Orion Poplawski

On 1/26/23 18:30, Reon Beon via devel wrote:

Are there still some outstanding bugs preventing this from happening?


There seems to be lots of missing functionality IMHO.

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When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-26 Thread Reon Beon via devel
Are there still some outstanding bugs preventing this from happening?
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