Re: can we remove device-mapper-multipath from default desktop installs?

2021-09-06 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

On 9/6/21 7:57 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 04:43:01PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:47 AM Chris Murphy  wrote:
>>>
>>> systemd-udev-settle.service is deprecated. Please fix
>>> multipathd.service not to pull it in.
>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001058
>>>
>>> This is not a regression, it's been around for a while with bugs that
>>> get no action. I'm wondering if we can just pull it out of the default
>>> installations? The only thing I can think of that (conditionally)
>>> needs it early on in a default case is Anaconda but only if there are
>>> multipath devices, which is probably pretty rare in the Workstation
>>> edition and desktop spins case?
> 
> +1 to dropping it. I'm sure it sees very little usage in Fedora
> installations. If somebody needs it, they can add it after installation.
> 
>> It's in Fedora 34 and 35:
>> https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/main/f/comps-f35.xml.in#_59
>>
>> And I think that's why it's being dragged in post-install with regular
>> updates, even though it's not on the install media:
> 
> Yes, I think it's only pulled in through comps. It can be uninstalled
> without issue.

Hmm, I already fixed this for F33:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveDeviceMapperMultipathFromWorkstationLiveCD

And I just checked and in F34 device-mapper-multipath is still not part
of the Workstation livecd.

So at least for the livecd, which is the default download, this is
already resolved.

Regards,

Hans
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Re: can we remove device-mapper-multipath from default desktop installs?

2021-09-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 04:43:01PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:47 AM Chris Murphy  wrote:
> >
> > systemd-udev-settle.service is deprecated. Please fix
> > multipathd.service not to pull it in.
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001058
> >
> > This is not a regression, it's been around for a while with bugs that
> > get no action. I'm wondering if we can just pull it out of the default
> > installations? The only thing I can think of that (conditionally)
> > needs it early on in a default case is Anaconda but only if there are
> > multipath devices, which is probably pretty rare in the Workstation
> > edition and desktop spins case?

+1 to dropping it. I'm sure it sees very little usage in Fedora
installations. If somebody needs it, they can add it after installation.

> It's in Fedora 34 and 35:
> https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/main/f/comps-f35.xml.in#_59
> 
> And I think that's why it's being dragged in post-install with regular
> updates, even though it's not on the install media:

Yes, I think it's only pulled in through comps. It can be uninstalled
without issue.

Zbyszek
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Re: can we remove device-mapper-multipath from default desktop installs?

2021-09-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:47 AM Chris Murphy  wrote:
>
> systemd-udev-settle.service is deprecated. Please fix
> multipathd.service not to pull it in.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001058
>
> This is not a regression, it's been around for a while with bugs that
> get no action. I'm wondering if we can just pull it out of the default
> installations? The only thing I can think of that (conditionally)
> needs it early on in a default case is Anaconda but only if there are
> multipath devices, which is probably pretty rare in the Workstation
> edition and desktop spins case?

It's in Fedora 34 and 35:
https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/blob/main/f/comps-f35.xml.in#_59

And I think that's why it's being dragged in post-install with regular
updates, even though it's not on the install media:

Installing dependencies:
 device-mapper-multipathx86_64
 0.8.6-5.fc35
   fedora   138 k
 device-mapper-multipath-libs   x86_64
 0.8.6-5.fc35
   fedora   262 k


I put a dnf update --debugsolver file here, it's 62M
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zdu34adQeRp8Bk6ptZm2Lo60jv0ql4tu/view?usp=sharing

I'm not sure what the correct answer is, but at the least it seems
that device-mapper-multipath needs to stop pulling in a long ago
deprecated systemd-udev-settle.service, that also adds multi-second
boot delays for everyone.

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Chris Murphy
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can we remove device-mapper-multipath from default desktop installs?

2021-09-03 Thread Chris Murphy
systemd-udev-settle.service is deprecated. Please fix
multipathd.service not to pull it in.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001058

This is not a regression, it's been around for a while with bugs that
get no action. I'm wondering if we can just pull it out of the default
installations? The only thing I can think of that (conditionally)
needs it early on in a default case is Anaconda but only if there are
multipath devices, which is probably pretty rare in the Workstation
edition and desktop spins case?


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Chris Murphy
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