Re: intent to retire: kudzu

2010-04-18 Thread Stewart Adam
On 2010/04/13 4:45 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said:
>
>> I'd like to retire kudzu for F-13.
>>
>> Why?
>> - There are places where it almost certainly does not work with current 
>> kernels
>> - It's so deprecated that one of its replacements (HAL) has since been
>>frozen and deprecated
>> - Given that, its upstream is very dead
>>
>> However, it is still being required by two programs:
>> - hwbrowser
>> - fwfstab
>>  
> I just noticed I hadn't actually done this yet. I've retired it for
> F-14/rawhide; it can remain in F-13, although it's unlikely to see any
> useful updates there.
>
I've rewritten a good part of fwfstab so it no longer depends on kudzu 
for disk detection. I'll update rawhide to the RC later today.

Stewart
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Re: intent to retire: kudzu

2010-04-14 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 16:45 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: 
> > I'd like to retire kudzu for F-13.
> > 
> > Why?
> > - There are places where it almost certainly does not work with current 
> > kernels
> > - It's so deprecated that one of its replacements (HAL) has since been
> >   frozen and deprecated
> > - Given that, its upstream is very dead 
> > 
> > However, it is still being required by two programs:
> > - hwbrowser
> > - fwfstab
> > 
> > If someone wants to keep it limping along for thsese two programs I can
> > orphan it. But I'd really rather just retire it.
> 
> I just noticed I hadn't actually done this yet. I've retired it for
> F-14/rawhide; it can remain in F-13, although it's unlikely to see any
> useful updates there.

I've retired hwbrowser in Rawhide/F-13 as well, it doesn't make sense to
keep it around as it can't handle much of the the new hardware, i.e.
anything kudzu doesn't know.

Nils
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Re: intent to retire: kudzu

2010-04-13 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: 
> I'd like to retire kudzu for F-13.
> 
> Why?
> - There are places where it almost certainly does not work with current 
> kernels
> - It's so deprecated that one of its replacements (HAL) has since been
>   frozen and deprecated
> - Given that, its upstream is very dead 
> 
> However, it is still being required by two programs:
> - hwbrowser
> - fwfstab
> 
> If someone wants to keep it limping along for thsese two programs I can
> orphan it. But I'd really rather just retire it.

I just noticed I hadn't actually done this yet. I've retired it for
F-14/rawhide; it can remain in F-13, although it's unlikely to see any
useful updates there.

Bill
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