Re: rpm changelog (was Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc)

2011-09-07 Thread Mario Blättermann
Am 07.09.2011 20:00, schrieb Michael Cronenworth:
> Genes MailLists on 09/07/2011 12:57 PM wrote:
>> Seems pretty useful for users to see what changed - curious why not?
> 
> Users are not programmers. Commits may range from "merge from branch 
> such-n-such" to "ran indent to clean up formatting" which has extremely 
> little value to users.

+1 from me. Well, it would be convenient to automate the rpm changelog
creation in some way. But we need *our* changelog for *our* changes to
the package. Most packages ship a NEWS file anyway, which includes the
changes to the software itself.

Best Regards,
Mario
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Re: rpm changelog (was Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc)

2011-09-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Genes MailLists on 09/07/2011 12:57 PM wrote:
> Seems pretty useful for users to see what changed - curious why not?

Users are not programmers. Commits may range from "merge from branch 
such-n-such" to "ran indent to clean up formatting" which has extremely 
little value to users.
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Re: rpm changelog (was Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc)

2011-09-07 Thread Genes MailLists
On 09/07/2011 01:50 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Rich Megginson on 09/07/2011 12:44 PM wrote:
>> git log --oneline TAG-OF-PREVIOUS-RELEASE.. | cat
>>
>> the | cat (or | more) is needed because git log will truncate lines
> 
> This is not what I meant.
> 
> Upstream may have had 20-30 commits inbetween tags. I wouldn't want to 
> see 20-30 lines of RPM changelog.

  Seems pretty useful for users to see what changed - curious why not?
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Re: rpm changelog (was Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc)

2011-09-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Rich Megginson on 09/07/2011 12:44 PM wrote:
> git log --oneline TAG-OF-PREVIOUS-RELEASE.. | cat
>
> the | cat (or | more) is needed because git log will truncate lines

This is not what I meant.

Upstream may have had 20-30 commits inbetween tags. I wouldn't want to 
see 20-30 lines of RPM changelog.
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Re: rpm changelog (was Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc)

2011-09-07 Thread Rich Megginson
On 09/07/2011 11:12 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Genes MailLists wrote:
>> Would a git-shortlog suffice for %changelog ?
> It would need to be "git-short-shortlog" (hypothetically) as filling a
> rpm changelog with hundreds of lines of commits is not very helpful.
>
> I've always considered the rpm changelog to be a changelog of the spec
> itself and a very brief summary of any upstream changes.
git log --oneline TAG-OF-PREVIOUS-RELEASE.. | cat

the | cat (or | more) is needed because git log will truncate lines
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Re: rpm changelog (was Re: Notice of intent: patching glibc)

2011-09-07 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Genes MailLists wrote:
> Would a git-shortlog suffice for %changelog ?

It would need to be "git-short-shortlog" (hypothetically) as filling a 
rpm changelog with hundreds of lines of commits is not very helpful.

I've always considered the rpm changelog to be a changelog of the spec 
itself and a very brief summary of any upstream changes.
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