Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The last good[1] keyboards made (AFAIK) predate keyboards with windows keys, so none of the keyboards I use routinely have them. [1]good requires: 1-function keys grouped on left so that only fingers of one child's (small) hand are required to use any combination of function key simultaneously with any combination of shift key(s); readily usable purely by touch of an experience user 2-standard inverted-T cursor keys with blank above up key and two blanks above left and right keys 3-oversize Enter key 4-double width backspace key. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
2011/6/17 Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net: On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The key that can not be named! lol cheers Domingo Becker -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
It looks like a hanky or a napkin to me! -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 09:05 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The last good[1] keyboards made (AFAIK) predate keyboards with windows keys, so none of the keyboards I use routinely have them. [1]good requires: 1-function keys grouped on left so that only fingers of one child's (small) hand are required to use any combination of function key simultaneously with any combination of shift key(s); readily usable purely by touch of an experience user 2-standard inverted-T cursor keys with blank above up key and two blanks above left and right keys 3-oversize Enter key 4-double width backspace key. The conditions 2, 3, 4 are still fairly commonly met although it seems to be harder to get such keyboard recently - at least here. However I thought that the condition 1 was abandoned when the original IBM AT keyboards stopped shipping :). But then a short search revealed this one: Avant Stellar Keyboard http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=376Itemid=65limit=1limitstart=4 -- Tomas Mraz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. Turkish proverb -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Domingo Becker domingobec...@gmail.com wrote: What key between Ctrl Alt? The key that can not be named! It can be named... it's called the Super key. Well, at least mine is super, as it has a Fedora logo on it :-) -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Jared K. Smith jsm...@fedoraproject.org wrote: It can be named... it's called the Super key. Well, at least mine is super, as it has a Fedora logo on it :-) That's a bad place for the Fedora logo... just like its a bad place for the Windows logo. What is needed is project-neutral label for that key so that GNOME and other interfaces can start referencing it in the documentation with having to work about vendor branding. If only the superman logo were public domain the superman symbol would be perfect. -jefPutting branded labels on our keyboard layouts is just dumb. It's no different than putting the Nike swoosh in place of the N key on some keyboards or the Starbucks logo on the S key on others. Branded logo on the parts of the physical interface make it _more_ difficult to provide accurate documentation which describes that interfacespaleta -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Domingo Becker wrote: 2011/6/17 Felix Miata : On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? The key that can not be named! lol I call it the untouchable. I once heard the world will end if I pushed that key. I never had the guts to try. Funny thing is, once the keyboard gets older, that key starts to shine. Orcan -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2011/06/17 08:53 (GMT-0300) Domingo Becker composed: The shortest way is by using keyboard, as Rahul says: 1. Press the key between Ctrl and Alt. What key between Ctrl Alt? You can also use Alt-F1. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what key between Ctrl Alt (was: GNOME3 and au revoir...)
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 07:05:59AM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Jared K. Smith jsm...@fedoraproject.org wrote: It can be named... it's called the Super key. Well, at least mine is super, as it has a Fedora logo on it :-) That's a bad place for the Fedora logo... just like its a bad place for the Windows logo. What is needed is project-neutral label for that key so that GNOME and other interfaces can start referencing it in the documentation with having to work about vendor branding. If only the superman logo were public domain the superman symbol would be perfect. The key was actually around for a bit before there was a windows logo on it. It had a small diamond on it. --CJD -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel