Re: new user: no audio from speakers

2007-10-11 Thread Richard Dobson
Thanks; but I am on 613, so it must needs be fixed again. It's on Trac now.

Richard Dobson.

Rory Walsh wrote:
> Hi Richard, I had the same problem. I upgraded to 602 and everything 
> worked after that.
> 
> Rory.
> 
> 
> 

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Fwd: b-test-4 radio range, extreme range

2007-10-11 Thread Yuan Chao
Oops... Forgot about devel list.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Yuan Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Oct 11, 2007 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: b-test-4 radio range, extreme range
To: James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


On 10/11/07, James Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:54:19AM -0700, Javier Cardona wrote:
> > Could you place a third laptop half way between the two? :)

> Certainly.  Done that, though not to that mountain.  Row of laptops
> along the road or paddock.  I was hoping for suspend between packets to
> get the power down to something very comfortable rather than rushed,
> 'cause I can't lay power wires out there.  Hmm, or can I?  *thinks*
I remember reading that current XO will still relay mesh packets even
in suspend mode. (?) Though there are several kinds of solar plat
available on market that can be used as power source. :)


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HID Driver for the XO

2007-10-11 Thread ankita prasad
Hi,

I am developing a driver for a HID device which plugs into the XO. I have
developed the driver on fedora 7 and it works fine with the hid device. But
when i connect the device to the XO and try to read data from my device, I
get a broken pipe error. Can anyone suggest as to what could be different on
the XO distribution as a result of which i get this error.

Thanks!
Ankita
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retrieving the activity bundle directory

2007-10-11 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Hi everyone,

does anyone know if is there a way to retrieve the
activity bundle top directory name under python/sugar?

Thanks

Victor
Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

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Re: retrieving the activity bundle directory

2007-10-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 14:29 +0100, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> does anyone know if is there a way to retrieve the
> activity bundle top directory name under python/sugar?

You should be able to:

from sugar.activity import activity

my_bundle_path = activity.get_bundle_path()

Dan

> Thanks
> 
> Victor
> Victor Lazzarini
> Music Technology Laboratory
> Music Department
> National University of Ireland, Maynooth
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Re: new user: no audio from speakers

2007-10-11 Thread Kim Quirk
There must be something else going on here. We test sound on every build.

What language laptop do you have?  US/English?

Can you also provide the serial number?
Can you try sound from Record or other activites to see if it is only
tamtam.

Thanks -- what is the bug number?

Kim


On 10/11/07, Richard Dobson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks; but I am on 613, so it must needs be fixed again. It's on Trac
> now.
>
> Richard Dobson.
>
> Rory Walsh wrote:
> > Hi Richard, I had the same problem. I upgraded to 602 and everything
> > worked after that.
> >
> > Rory.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: retrieving the activity bundle directory

2007-10-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On Oct 11, 2007, at 15:59 , Dan Williams wrote:

> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 14:29 +0100, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> does anyone know if is there a way to retrieve the
>> activity bundle top directory name under python/sugar?
>
> You should be able to:
>
> from sugar.activity import activity
>
> my_bundle_path = activity.get_bundle_path()

Also, with the recent launch refactorings the bundle directory is  
made the current working directory, so you can simply use relative  
path names.

- Bert -


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Urgent: Need icons from some 3rd party activities

2007-10-11 Thread Eben Eliason
Pentagram is in need of a few activity icons for the xogiving.org
microsite.  Would the developers of the following activities please
attach the corresponding activity icons to this thread?  Thanks!

Block Party
Calculate
News Reader
Watch & LIsten
Turtle Art

Additionally, if any of you are unsatisfied with your icons or would
the like Sugar design team to clean up their appearance, please let us
know.  Thanks!

- Eben, Pentagram
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Re: Urgent: Need icons from some 3rd party activities

2007-10-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg

On Oct 11, 2007, at 18:22 , Eben Eliason wrote:

> Pentagram is in need of a few activity icons for the xogiving.org
> microsite.  Would the developers of the following activities please
> attach the corresponding activity icons to this thread?  Thanks!
>
> Block Party
> Calculate
> News Reader
> Watch & LIsten
> Turtle Art
>
> Additionally, if any of you are unsatisfied with your icons or would
> the like Sugar design team to clean up their appearance, please let us
> know.  Thanks!

Well, we still have not had a better idea for the Etoys icon. I the  
mean time we all got accustomed to the shooting star, but I'm still  
not convinced there couldn't be something more descriptive ...

- Bert -


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Re: retrieving the activity bundle directory

2007-10-11 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Not in build 602 I presume (as it does not work here). Will
upgrade and test (but Dan's solution works fine).

Victor

At 17:13 11/10/2007, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

>On Oct 11, 2007, at 15:59 , Dan Williams wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 14:29 +0100, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>>>Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>does anyone know if is there a way to retrieve the
>>>activity bundle top directory name under python/sugar?
>>
>>You should be able to:
>>
>>from sugar.activity import activity
>>
>>my_bundle_path = activity.get_bundle_path()
>
>Also, with the recent launch refactorings the bundle directory is
>made the current working directory, so you can simply use relative
>path names.
>
>- Bert -
>

Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

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csndsugui test/example

2007-10-11 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Dear all,

I have started work on a pygtk-sugar GUI framework for csound,
for fast development of activities.  I have an initial working
prototype and I produced a little test/example activity.

If anyone is interested in taking a look/testing on his/her XO, I
have put up a distribution (.xo) of this little demo at
http://music.nuim.ie/vlazzarini/tmp/
It's called Waves (Waves-1.xo).

Suggestions/comments are very welcome.

Thanks

Victor
Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

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Re: retrieving the activity bundle directory

2007-10-11 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Yes this came in after trial-3.

- Bert -

On Oct 11, 2007, at 19:04 , Victor Lazzarini wrote:

> Not in build 602 I presume (as it does not work here). Will
> upgrade and test (but Dan's solution works fine).
>
> Victor
>
> At 17:13 11/10/2007, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>
>> On Oct 11, 2007, at 15:59 , Dan Williams wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 14:29 +0100, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 does anyone know if is there a way to retrieve the
 activity bundle top directory name under python/sugar?
>>>
>>> You should be able to:
>>>
>>> from sugar.activity import activity
>>>
>>> my_bundle_path = activity.get_bundle_path()
>>
>> Also, with the recent launch refactorings the bundle directory is
>> made the current working directory, so you can simply use relative
>> path names.
>>
>> - Bert -
>>
>

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Re: Urgent: Need icons from some 3rd party activities

2007-10-11 Thread Peter Krenesky
On Thursday 11 October 2007 9:22:24 am Eben Eliason wrote:
> Pentagram is in need of a few activity icons for the xogiving.org
> microsite.  Would the developers of the following activities please
> attach the corresponding activity icons to this thread?  Thanks!
>
> Block Party
> Calculate
> News Reader
> Watch & LIsten
> Turtle Art
>
> Additionally, if any of you are unsatisfied with your icons or would
> the like Sugar design team to clean up their appearance, please let us
> know.  Thanks!
>
> - Eben, Pentagram
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we wanted a new icon to replace the current one for watch and listen.

here is what we came up with some help from real's designer.  None of us on 
the W&L team are artists so feedback/help from the sugar team would be great.

-Peter

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Re: retrieving the activity bundle directory

2007-10-11 Thread Michael Stone
You can also look for an environment variable named SUGAR_BUNDLE_PATH.

Michael

On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 07:20:09PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> Yes this came in after trial-3.
> 
> - Bert -
> 
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 19:04 , Victor Lazzarini wrote:
> 
> > Not in build 602 I presume (as it does not work here). Will
> > upgrade and test (but Dan's solution works fine).
> >
> > Victor
> >
> > At 17:13 11/10/2007, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> >
> >> On Oct 11, 2007, at 15:59 , Dan Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 14:29 +0100, Victor Lazzarini wrote:
>  Hi everyone,
> 
>  does anyone know if is there a way to retrieve the
>  activity bundle top directory name under python/sugar?
> >>>
> >>> You should be able to:
> >>>
> >>> from sugar.activity import activity
> >>>
> >>> my_bundle_path = activity.get_bundle_path()
> >>
> >> Also, with the recent launch refactorings the bundle directory is
> >> made the current working directory, so you can simply use relative
> >> path names.
> >>
> >> - Bert -
> >>
> >
> 
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Re: HID Driver for the XO

2007-10-11 Thread Jim Gettys
What class HID driver?  We may very well either not have the driver, or
the udev rules to load it
  - Jim


On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 17:37 +0530, ankita prasad wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am developing a driver for a HID device which plugs into the XO. I
> have developed the driver on fedora 7 and it works fine with the hid
> device. But when i connect the device to the XO and try to read data
> from my device, I get a broken pipe error. Can anyone suggest as to
> what could be different on the XO distribution as a result of which i
> get this error. 
> 
> Thanks!
> Ankita
> 
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Re: new user: no audio from speakers

2007-10-11 Thread Richard Dobson
I have now updated to 616, and the speakers do indeed now work. Do I 
need to update the TRAC?

The GUI has a lot more activites installed, but also seems to have more 
slightly flaky behaviour, will try to catalogue and report later on. 
Rather more text not in English (booting is actually bilingual) ; I can 
guess most of it but not all!


I see some error messages during booting, such as:

sdhci: Invalid iomem size You may experience problems

Failure reading codec reg 0x7e 


Is this of any significance?



Richard Dobson


Kim Quirk wrote:
> There must be something else going on here. We test sound on every build.
> 
> What language laptop do you have?  US/English?
> 
> Can you also provide the serial number?
> Can you try sound from Record or other activites to see if it is only 
> tamtam.
> 
> Thanks -- what is the bug number?


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connect to network?

2007-10-11 Thread Richard Dobson
Another newbie question:

is the machine supposed to be able to connect to an "ordinary" wireless 
network? It finds my router name (and indeed all the other networks 
alive locally), and asks for my WEP key (and subsequently shows it is on 
"Canal 11"), but that is as far as I get. ping doesn't work, and the 
browser activity  cannot connect to the internet to find eternal 
websites.  In the absence of a physical network port, this would be the 
only way I can copy files to/from the X0.


Richard Dobson



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Re: connect to network?

2007-10-11 Thread Richard Dobson
Richard Dobson wrote:
.. In the absence of a physical network port, this would be the
> only way I can copy files to/from the X0.
> 

PS:

Apart from using the USB stick of course, but that is not really a 
fluent way to operate!

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Re: connect to network?

2007-10-11 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

   > Another newbie question: is the machine supposed to be able to
   > connect to an "ordinary" wireless network? It finds my router name
   > (and indeed all the other networks alive locally), and asks for my
   > WEP key (and subsequently shows it is on "Canal 11"), but that is
   > as far as I get. ping doesn't work, and the browser activity cannot
   > connect to the internet to find eternal websites.

Please file a bug; this should work, and we're interested in chasing it
down.  Attaching your /var/log/messages file after an attempt would be
most useful.  We have problems with some types of encrypted APs.

   > In the absence of a physical network port, this would be the only
   > way I can copy files to/from the X0.

You could also use a USB disk, SD card, or USB ethernet device.

- Chris.
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Test-Process Sprint

2007-10-11 Thread Michael Stone
Dear @sugar and @devel,

A proposal was floated at today's security meeting to spend a day (how's
Wed. Oct. 17?) working together to improve the processes we use for
testing the software on the laptops.

Specifically, this means:
  
  * Making a "Test Activity" that we can all use to manually execute the
test plans stored on the wiki 

  * Teaching interested people how our Tinderbox works so that you can
contribute automated tests.

  * Playing with ways to get better feedback out of activities (i.e.
special, machine-readable logging, use of accesibility extentions
for scripting, embedding small interpreters, etc)

  * Making a collection-server and visualizer for the results generated
by the "Test Activity"

  * Going through all of the old test plans, trying them out, and fixing
up the parts that no longer apply

  * Working out the exact written instructions, from start to finish,
for running a single activity under emulation.

Currently, we're thinking of coordinating this over our usual media:
IRC, email, git, and the wiki. To this end, I've put up a signup /
coordination page at 

  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_Process_Sprint

Please sign up there and let us know what you're going to work on, and
whether you're going to be working over IRC or if you're able to come to
our headquarters in Cambridge (where we'll feed you!). Let's link off
from there to pages describing, in more detail, our thoughts on the
subjects listed above (and on any other relevant subjects).

Michael
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