Re: New joyride build 131
Pah, looks like it tried every 15 minutes over night but did not stop sending out mails ... I now changed the script to only send out mail when a new successful build is found that actually has any changed package versions. - Bert - On Oct 28, 2007, at 22:24 , Bert Freudenberg wrote: The script now looks explicitly for Calling out the done script to indicate success or Deleting incomplete OS image for failure. If neither line is found, it tries again 15 minutes later. And since you're back to normal schedule I enabled the message for every build ... - Bert - On Oct 28, 2007, at 21:55 , Bert Freudenberg wrote: I just re-reran it and it picked up those builds fine. I suspect a race - it detects the new build directory, but the log is not up yet. I'll see if I can avoid the race ... - Bert - On Oct 28, 2007, at 21:49 , Michael Stone wrote: Bert, Builds joyride-129 and joyride-131 look finished to me but your script reported them as failed. This is probably due to changes that I made recently (#4251 and #4253) but I don't know enough about how your script works to be certain. Do you have any ideas on what's going on? Michael P.S. - Mitch - we were firing off builds frequently today because Scott and I made fairly significant implementation changes over the last two days that, unfortunately, did not work when run in the environment provided by cron. The new implementation of the dropbox scanner seems to be functioning correctly now, so we should be back to our regularly scheduled programming. (no pun intended, of course :) On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:38:42PM +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 21:34 , Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Mitch Bradley wrote: Perhaps we should reconsider the wisdom of hourly builds, or quit sending hourly change reports, or something. ...or not running new builds unless the datestamps of the source directories say something has changed? I thought that was the case? But anyway, I always wanted some way to do I want a build now so I don't have to wait 30 on average to see if my changes work. Anyway, I changed the mail notifications to not send out a message for failed builds for now. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Reporting bugs
I don't know about the bug in question, but frequently the reporter doesn't include enough information for us to decide if a bug is a duplicate, or how to reproduce it, etc. Yes, properly reporting a bug takes time. If a reporter can't afford the time to report the bug, or respond to further questions after reporting it, perhaps they shouldn't have one of our precious few developer machines... Just properly triaging a bug report takes 5 to 20 minutes of either Jim or Kim's time, followed by more time from the developer to which it is assigned. Users reporting the bug get the easy part of the task! John On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I've had comments like this on some of my own reports. These are usually not reproducable, strange things. Having to follow through when this is far from my own area of expertise simply takes time I can't effort. There indeed is lack of interest on the part of the reporter, no denial here. I'm just saying that because of that, I stopped reporting those one-off bugs. Seeing comments like yours reinforces that decision. - Bert - On Oct 28, 2007, at 23:30 , Jim Gettys wrote: Look at the history; I asked for more information several days ago, and no response to the request. To make sure he got a copy, I added the reporter to the CC list, to generate another piece of mail in his inbox. I certainly hope SJ adds the requested information and reopens it. Best Regards, - Jim On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 17:49 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 17:37 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: Changes (by jg): * cc: sj (added) * status: new = closed * resolution: = invalid Comment: Closing due to lack of interest on the part of the reporter... Comments like this discourage reporting bugs. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Activity bundle Query
Hello I am making an activity of my application ...aaplication is written in java.. and i have a bash script to load that application now what would be the line in myActivity.info file that will execute that run.sh script i am unable to figure it out from the wiki pages Regards -- Waqas Toor member of Ubuntu Pakistani Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubuntu-pk.org Linux *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates ? http://waqastoor.weblog.pk (Registered Linux user #424056) ref link http://counter.li.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Reporting bugs
... which again discourages reporting bugs, unless the reporter wants to risk being taken away the XO. - Bert - On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:17 , John Watlington wrote: I don't know about the bug in question, but frequently the reporter doesn't include enough information for us to decide if a bug is a duplicate, or how to reproduce it, etc. Yes, properly reporting a bug takes time. If a reporter can't afford the time to report the bug, or respond to further questions after reporting it, perhaps they shouldn't have one of our precious few developer machines... Just properly triaging a bug report takes 5 to 20 minutes of either Jim or Kim's time, followed by more time from the developer to which it is assigned. Users reporting the bug get the easy part of the task! John On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: I've had comments like this on some of my own reports. These are usually not reproducable, strange things. Having to follow through when this is far from my own area of expertise simply takes time I can't effort. There indeed is lack of interest on the part of the reporter, no denial here. I'm just saying that because of that, I stopped reporting those one-off bugs. Seeing comments like yours reinforces that decision. - Bert - On Oct 28, 2007, at 23:30 , Jim Gettys wrote: Look at the history; I asked for more information several days ago, and no response to the request. To make sure he got a copy, I added the reporter to the CC list, to generate another piece of mail in his inbox. I certainly hope SJ adds the requested information and reopens it. Best Regards, - Jim On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 17:49 +0100, Bert Freudenberg wrote: On Oct 28, 2007, at 17:37 , Zarro Boogs per Child wrote: Changes (by jg): * cc: sj (added) * status: new = closed * resolution: = invalid Comment: Closing due to lack of interest on the part of the reporter... Comments like this discourage reporting bugs. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Activity bundle Query
Depends on your targeted Sugar version, which are not compatible with each other. In the old days, that is, the software that is going to be put into mass production, a.k.a. build 622, you had to execute an activity factory that would then run instances of your activity. This is obsolete and not documented anywhere anymore (despite this being called a stable release). In the current Sugar, a.k.a. Joyride, which will evolve into the 1.0 version of the XO operating system, you do not need that anymore, but must put your script into the bin/ directory of your activity. This is documented at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Low-level_Activity_API (actually that page also describes the old regime which still had the factory, go back to the version of Oct. 7th) I hope you can access DBus and set X window properties from Java, otherwise you cannot build a proper activity. But since you need to include a Java VM anyway in your bundle, you could patch it to do the right thing I guess. If you are very careful you may even be able to devise a bundle that works in old and new Sugar, I believe Etoys currently manages to do that (look into Etoys-63.xo). Depending on what further grand changes occur before 1.0 this will continue to work. Also note that 1.0 is officially not called 1.0 anymore but instead FRS, First Deployment, XM, Killjoy, take your pick. I just could not make up my mind yet which of these designations I dislike the least. - Bert - On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:37 , Waqas Toor wrote: Hello I am making an activity of my application ...aaplication is written in java.. and i have a bash script to load that application now what would be the line in myActivity.info file that will execute that run.sh script i am unable to figure it out from the wiki pages Regards -- Waqas Toor member of Ubuntu Pakistani Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubuntu-pk.org Linux *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates ? http://waqastoor.weblog.pk (Registered Linux user #424056) ref link http://counter.li.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Activity bundle Query
On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:35 , Waqas Toor wrote: Hello , but i was able to run the application from the terminal using gij command and it works fine ... so is there a way that i could bundle it Of course. The XO bundle format and Sugar were designed to work fine independent of your choice of programming language (though Python is better supported than others). For Java that means probably including gij and whatever runtime files it needs within your app bundle. what does these lines mean The exec key specifies the executable which Sugar runs to start the activity instances. It means you need to put a line like exec=run.sh into your activity.info file. Environment variables given on the exec line are expanded. Executable files should be placed into the bin/ directory in the bundle. Put the script into YourActivity.activity/bin/run.sh It should support the following arguments: -b, --bundle-id Identifier of the activity bundle -a, --activity-id Identifier of the activity instance. -o, --object-id Identifier of the associated datastore object. -u, --uri URI to load. are they helpfull ? Handle these command line options in your script as outlined in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Low-level_Activity_API which describes non-Python activities. - Bert - On 10/29/07, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will have to port your application. The XO doesn't support Java at this time. May I suggest Python ? Regards, John On Oct 29, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Waqas Toor wrote: Hello I am making an activity of my application ...aaplication is written in java.. and i have a bash script to load that application now what would be the line in myActivity.info file that will execute that run.sh script i am unable to figure it out from the wiki pages Regards -- Waqas Toor member of Ubuntu Pakistani Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubuntu-pk.org Linux *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates ? http://waqastoor.weblog.pk (Registered Linux user #424056) ref link http://counter.li.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Waqas Toor member of Ubuntu Pakistani Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubuntu-pk.org Linux *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates ? http://waqastoor.weblog.pk (Registered Linux user #424056) ref link http://counter.li.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Activity bundle Query
Hello , but i was able to run the application from the terminal using gij command and it works fine ... so is there a way that i could bundle it what does these lines mean The exec key specifies the executable which Sugar runs to start the activity instances. Environment variables given on the exec line are expanded. Executable files should be placed into the bin/ directory in the bundle. It should support the following arguments: -b, --bundle-id Identifier of the activity bundle -a, --activity-id Identifier of the activity instance. -o, --object-id Identifier of the associated datastore object. -u, --uri URI to load. are they helpfull ? On 10/29/07, John Watlington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You will have to port your application. The XO doesn't support Java at this time. May I suggest Python ? Regards, John On Oct 29, 2007, at 3:37 AM, Waqas Toor wrote: Hello I am making an activity of my application ...aaplication is written in java.. and i have a bash script to load that application now what would be the line in myActivity.info file that will execute that run.sh script i am unable to figure it out from the wiki pages Regards -- Waqas Toor member of Ubuntu Pakistani Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubuntu-pk.org Linux *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates ? http://waqastoor.weblog.pk (Registered Linux user #424056) ref link http://counter.li.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Waqas Toor member of Ubuntu Pakistani Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ubuntu-pk.org Linux *is* user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and Gates ? http://waqastoor.weblog.pk (Registered Linux user #424056) ref link http://counter.li.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mandatory Changelogs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 at 18:55:34 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Dear Sugar and Devel, ChangeLogs in the format described on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Build_system#ChangeLog_Format are now MANDATORY for package inclusion. Please write yours. How does this work for Koji users? I build the OLPC Telepathy components for what-was-FRS-last-time-I-looked in the OLPC-2 stream in Koji. Will they be integrated into Joyride automatically, or do I have to download the RPMs (assuming that's even possible) and re-upload them via my public_rpms? If they're integrated automatically, how and where do I write changelogs? I'm happy to write the RPM %changelog in the desired format if that's what you want... Simon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: OpenPGP key: http://www.pseudorandom.co.uk/2003/contact/ or pgp.net iD8DBQFHJbPmWSc8zVUw7HYRAu7uAJ48urtIwmlI4/MMSsgxNBYD7OAcEgCfbwp3 vj+9tWFehBxQ7azm1xJYYFk= =BF29 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] CODE FREEZE COMING!
Jim Gettys wrote: During this week, October 26 through November 1: You should be substantially complete with your development at this date (October 26). If you are not: You MUST notify the community of any significant code you expect will change in the next week. To do this, you MUST create a ticket, tagged killjoy? in the keywords field. You MUST briefly justify your recommendation. You MUST include the date you expect your change will be available for testing in the joyride build. This date MUST be before November 2. http://dev.laptop.org/milestone/XM%20-%20killjoy shows Nov 2 as Feature Freeze, and Nov 16 as Code Freeze. You've specified a lot of process, assuming the roadmap dates are authoritative and we aren't in feature freeze yet... Which dates are correct? Regards Morgan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 146
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New joyride build 146
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Re: [sugar] CODE FREEZE COMING!
Hi Morgan, On Oct 29, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Morgan Collett wrote: You've specified a lot of process, assuming the roadmap dates are authoritative and we aren't in feature freeze yet... Which dates are correct? apologies, there's quite a bit of confusion surrounding dates and releases. We expect to issue a complete clarification later today. Cheers, -- Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://radian.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Activity bundle Query
On 10/29/07 04:43, Bert Freudenberg wrote: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Low-level_Activity_API I wonder if the DBus SetActive() interface could be replaced by something X based such as the VisibilityNotify event. This would minimize the amount of work involved in ports of existing applications, and would allow unmodified binaries to integrate in our environment... at least in trivial cases. Also note that 1.0 is officially not called 1.0 anymore but instead FRS, First Deployment, XM, Killjoy, take your pick. I just could not make up my mind yet which of these designations I dislike the least. Same feeling here. Moreover, they told me the name FRS has been canceled too, and we have a new Reload milestone now. -- \___/ |___| Bernardo Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \___\ One Laptop Per Child - http://www.laptop.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Activity bundle Query
On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Same feeling here. Moreover, they told me the name FRS has been canceled too, and we have a new Reload milestone now. Sorry. We'll clear this up shortly. -- Ivan Krstić [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://radian.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Mandatory Changelogs
Simon, Thanks for your question. The short answer is that Koji and the dropboxes are completely independent, parallel mechanisms for creating binary RPM repositories to be composed by pilgrim into a build image. Today, ChangeLogs are required only for packages included by the dropbox mechanism. We are in discussions with folks who are knowledgable about Koji (namely Dave Woodhouse and Dennis Gilmore) to produce a wrapper for the Koji tag command that will record similar information. In the meantime, writing detailed RPM changelogs that describe the purpose of introducing the new package (in addition to any packaging changes) would be enourmously useful. Checking the source: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/pilgrim;a=blob;f=streams.d/olpc-development-yum-install.conf;hb=joyride shows that Joyride is indeed configured to pull packages from the OLPC-2 Koji collection. Best, Michael On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:20:22AM +, Simon McVittie wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 at 18:55:34 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Dear Sugar and Devel, ChangeLogs in the format described on http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Build_system#ChangeLog_Format are now MANDATORY for package inclusion. Please write yours. How does this work for Koji users? I build the OLPC Telepathy components for what-was-FRS-last-time-I-looked in the OLPC-2 stream in Koji. Will they be integrated into Joyride automatically, or do I have to download the RPMs (assuming that's even possible) and re-upload them via my public_rpms? If they're integrated automatically, how and where do I write changelogs? I'm happy to write the RPM %changelog in the desired format if that's what you want... Simon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: OpenPGP key: http://www.pseudorandom.co.uk/2003/contact/ or pgp.net iD8DBQFHJbPmWSc8zVUw7HYRAu7uAJ48urtIwmlI4/MMSsgxNBYD7OAcEgCfbwp3 vj+9tWFehBxQ7azm1xJYYFk= =BF29 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 151
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build151/devel_jffs2/ aspell-en.i386 50:6.0-7.fc7 aspell.i386 12:0.60.5-3.fc7 enchant.i386 1:1.3.0-1.fc6 fribidi.i386 0:0.10.7-6.fc7 hippo-canvas.i386 0:0.2.23-1.fc7 hippo-canvas-python.i386 0:0.2.23-1.fc7 hulahop.i386 0:0.2-0.22.20071013git47eec13acd hippo-canvas.i386 0:0.2.24-2.olpc2 hippo-canvas-python.i386 0:0.2.24-2.olpc2 hulahop.i386 0:0.3-1.olpc2 libabiword.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071027-1 libabiword-plugins.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071027-1 mailcap.noarch 0:2.1.23-2.marco mailcap.noarch 0:2.1.23-1.fc6 pyabiword.i386 0:0.6.0.svn20071027-1 wv.i386 0:1.2.4-1.fc7 -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: list of rouge packages
On 10/29/07, John (J5) Palmieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Avahi smcv is ontop of this owner: dcbw (Dan Williams) tmprepo: avahi-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-autoipd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-compat-libdns_sd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-dnsconfd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-glib-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-tools-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-ui-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm This is a F-7 build which has not yet been pushed as an update. It's currently in my public_rpms. Maybe we can just tag this one once we setup a branch for killjoy? dbus-python http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus-python/dbus-python-0.82.3.tar.gz needs to be pushed to F7 or branched for OLPC-2 owner: J5 (John (J5) Palmieri) tmprepo: dbus-python-0.82.1-2.fc7.i386.rpm Same as above. gtksourceview2 This needs to get into the repo and forked for OLPC-2 (might be in F-8). It can't get into F7. owner: cjb (Chris Ball) tmprepo: gtksourceview2-1.90.3-3.olpc2.i386.rpm pygtksourceview-1.90.3-1.fc8.i386.rpm Yeah. Once this is done please let me know and I'll remove them from my public_rpms. I'll add another few from my public_rpms to this list: pygobject2-2.14.0-1.fc7.i386.rpm We need an OLPC-2 branch and rebuild the F-8 package there. wpa_supplicant-0.5.7-4.fc7.i386.rpm I think Dan was going to push this as an update. If it doesn't happen I guess we can tag it when we have a killjoy branch. Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
list of rouge packages
Dennis, Here is a list of the rouge packages, with notes, not yet in the build system or needing update there. I gathered this from the trial-3 tmp repo so joyride may have more and newer packages and some of these may be obsolete. I am cc'ing the devel list so others can correct the list and add locations of the SRPMS. Avahi smcv is ontop of this owner: dcbw (Dan Williams) tmprepo: avahi-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-autoipd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-compat-libdns_sd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-dnsconfd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-glib-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-tools-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-ui-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm bootanim Needs to be added to OLPC-2 though it may be a one-off that is replaced later down the road owner: cscott (C. Scott Ananian) tmprepo: bootanim-0.12-1.i386.rpm dbus-python http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus-python/dbus-python-0.82.3.tar.gz needs to be pushed to F7 or branched for OLPC-2 owner: J5 (John (J5) Palmieri) tmprepo: dbus-python-0.82.1-2.fc7.i386.rpm etoys This is in review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=247984 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=247983 Issue involves refusal to sign CLA which might be resolved via an olpc-cla agreement. Solution for now might be to review the packages and have someone else get them into Fedora. Build manager also needs to keep ontop of olpc-cla to make sure it goes through if needed. owner: bertf(Bert Freudenberg) tmprepo: etoys-2.1.1664-1.noarch.rpm squeak-vm-3.9-11olpc5.i386.rpm gtksourceview2 This needs to get into the repo and forked for OLPC-2 (might be in F-8). It can't get into F7. owner: cjb (Chris Ball) tmprepo: gtksourceview2-1.90.3-3.olpc2.i386.rpm pygtksourceview-1.90.3-1.fc8.i386.rpm evince-olpc Should be merged into evince and pushed eventually. owner: marcopg (Marco Pesenti Gritti) tmprepo: evince-olpc-0.3-1.i386.rpm fonts-thai-ttf Need to get this into Fedora. Talk to Bernie because he pushed through the other fonts. Owner: bernie (Bernardo Innocenti) tmprepo: fonts-thai-ttf-0.4.4-1olpc1.2.noarch.rpm libabiword This is a library UI split of abiword which is the future of abiword development. Marc has Fedora dev access and said he wants to get this in though it most certainly can't go into F7. F8 is frozen so if it isn't there now it needs to get into OLPC-2. It would be nice if it is parallel installable with monolithic abi. Owner: uwog(Marc Maurer) tmprepo: libabiword-2.5.2.svn20070910-1.i386.rpm libabiword-plugins-2.5.2.svn20070910-1.i386.rpm libertas-usb8388-firmware This needs to be pushed in all Fedoras. There is still issues with how upstream names their tarballs which tend to change from release to release. Legal has already vetted the license and the Fedora board has accepted it. Owner: J5 (John (J5) Palmieri) tmprepo: libertas-usb8388-firmware-5.110.19.p0-1.olpc1.noarch.rpm olpcrd As is it would never get past Fedora package review. Need to work with C Scott to figure out what we should do here. One option is to have pilgrim build this since we want to eventually run the system python from here for memory saving reasons. owner: cscott (C. Scott Ananian) tmprepo: olpcrd-0.32-1.20071018git072ad8e70b.i386.rpm olpccontents I'm not sure exactly what is in this and how it is different from olpc-utils or olpc-logos. C. Scott uploaded it so he would be good to talk to about if this is something that can be merged into an existing package or we need to create a new package. owner: cscott (C. Scott Ananian) tmprepo: olpccontents-1.0-1.20070925git30cbb9db3b.i386.rpm pyvserver In review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=250463 pyvserver-1.0-0.3.fc7.noarch.rpm - almost done but needs to be pushed that extra mile and then built into OLPC-2 owner: mstone (Michael Stone) tmprepo: pyvserver-1.0-0.3.fc7.noarch.rpm rainbow Already in Fedora but needs pyvserver to build newer version. owner: mstone (Michael Stone) tmprepo: rainbow-0.6.6-1.fc7.noarch.rpm X components These need to be forked. Also Bernie eventually wants to get the newer X in though timing needs to be right for that. owner: bernie (Bernardo Innocenti) tmprepo: xorg-x11-drv-evdev-1.1.5-1.olpc2.i386.rpm xkeyboard-config-1.0-0.11.20070829cvs.olpc2.noarch.rpm ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: #4444 BLOC V1.1: Measure peggs 100% even when in background
#: Measure peggs 100% even when in background ---+ Reporter: arjs | Owner: arjs Type: defect| Status: closed Priority: blocker | Milestone: V1.1 Component: measure-activity | Version: Resolution: fixed |Keywords: relnote Verified: 0 | ---+ Changes (by arjs): * cc: devel@lists.laptop.org (added) * status: new = closed * resolution: = fixed Comment: (Adding [EMAIL PROTECTED] at the time of closing this blocker bug) Fixed in Release 12. Overview of solution implemented: When Activity becomes inactive, gobject timeout is disabled that was being used to queue up the expose event for drawing. Relevant Commitdiff is here: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/measure;a=commitdiff;h=e32d0c5d60166008c5bb660c306786146f20e8af -- Ticket URL: https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/#comment:3 One Laptop Per Child https://dev.laptop.org OLPC bug tracking system ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Notify active event firing
Say I have Activity A and I then go to Home View and open Activity B. At which point of opening of Activity B, does Activity A get to know that it is a background activity (inactive Activity) ? Is it immediately upon clicking the icon of Activity B ? thanks, Arjun -- Arjun Sarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: is there space for Space for a joyride?
about 100kb. Pol Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: If there is still interest in the Space activity (layout of tree of neighbors according to distance) entering Joyride, do you need an .xo file or an .rpm? How big is the bundle? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: is there space for Space for a joyride?
Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: If there is still interest in the Space activity (layout of tree of neighbors according to distance) entering Joyride, do you need an .xo file or an .rpm? How big is the bundle? -- \___/ |___| Bernardo Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \___\ One Laptop Per Child - http://www.laptop.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Music on the XO
Slightly off of the conversational thread here but: Information on the specific output spectrum capabilities might improve transcoding of audio files into smaller file sizes. If there is no, or poor quality, auditory response below or above a given threshold, it might be worth snipping off various frequencies, or otherwise optimizing how materials are encoded to take advantage of this. Is Jamendo, or anyone else, studying this? And Re: above conversation. Yes, I would love to see ethnologists get involved. The at the moment I don't believe is a lack of effort on anyone's part, but a lack of available material. Go to most university's music libraries and you will still find plenty of content in vinyl format as opposed to cd-audio or digital formats. Getting recordings made or existing recordings released into the public domain is an important project, and one of the main topics of a What should Wikipedia do with $100 Million dollars thread about a year back. I believe that just about everyone is on the same page here as far as what they would *like* to see on the OLPC. In the meantime I think that the current selections are far better than nothing.. Seth On 10/28/07, Jean Piché [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I may summarize, what you are saying is that: a) Given that this is about education, OLPC should be taking the cultural high road in terms of bundled music. yes. b) The perception that acceptable licensing terms will be difficult to impossible to obtain should not get in the way of a) yes. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: list of rouge packages
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 20:23 +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On 10/29/07, John (J5) Palmieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Avahi smcv is ontop of this owner: dcbw (Dan Williams) tmprepo: avahi-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-autoipd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-compat-libdns_sd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-dnsconfd-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-glib-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-tools-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm avahi-ui-0.6.20-5.fc7.i386.rpm This is a F-7 build which has not yet been pushed as an update. It's currently in my public_rpms. Maybe we can just tag this one once we setup a branch for killjoy? dbus-python http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus-python/dbus-python-0.82.3.tar.gz needs to be pushed to F7 or branched for OLPC-2 owner: J5 (John (J5) Palmieri) tmprepo: dbus-python-0.82.1-2.fc7.i386.rpm Same as above. There is a newer version of this upstream that should go in. That is the only reason I haven't pushed this in F-7. I should do this and push it. Doing it now. -- John (J5) Palmieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
log-collect / log-send
I've created a rough-cut log-collector, it's in d.l.o/git/project/log- activity/log-collect.py For now, it just outputs some system info, tell me what's missing or what would be interesting to include? I don't know yet how to list installed activities... would that be just `ls /usr/share/activities/`? Or is there a package list? And then the main purpose: sending logs to OLPC, either using http- post or email or usb-stick or... but what logs should I collect? Just all of them? ~/.sugar/default/logs/* and /var/log/* ? Or should it be more selective? And some information from the journal, perhaps? What about privacy/sensitive information? Will there be any in the logs or system info? - Pascal Current log-activity.py output: bios-version: Q2C18 uptime: 434169.21 430235.72 wireless_mac: 00-17-C4-05-2A-58 uuid: 8A401F4E-E312-47F9-96C8-A488C99BDA2F localization: ?? kernel_version: Linux version 2.6.22-20071018.1.olpc.d4414541d2be66a ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.1 20070105 (Red Hat 4.1.1-51)) #1 PREEMPT Thu Oct 18 11:44:14 EDT 2007 diskfree: 716 MB laptop-info-version: 0.1 memfree: 63496 kB serial-number: SHF7250025C disksize: 1024 MB keyboard: ??-??-?? olpc_build: OLPC build joyride 58 (stream joyride; variant devel_jffs2) country: USA board-revision: B4 motherboard-number: QTFLCA72400063 POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=olpc-battery POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Full POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1 POWER_SUPPLY_HEALTH=Good POWER_SUPPLY_TECHNOLOGY=LiFe POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_AVG=6792960 POWER_SUPPLY_CURRENT_AVG=0 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=97 POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY_LEVEL=Full POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP=2508 POWER_SUPPLY_TEMP_AMBIENT=4300 POWER_SUPPLY_ACCUM_CURRENT=8390 POWER_SUPPLY_MANUFACTURER=BYD POWER_SUPPLY_SERIAL_NUMBER=5d0d0100daff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 153
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build153/devel_jffs2/ aspell-en.i386 50:6.0-7.fc7 aspell.i386 12:0.60.5-3.fc7 binutils.i386 0:2.17.50.0.12-4 enchant.i386 1:1.3.0-1.fc6 fribidi.i386 0:0.10.7-6.fc7 libabiword.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071027-1 libabiword-plugins.i386 0:2.6.0.svn20071027-1 libraw1394.i386 0:1.2.1-10.fc7 libraw1394.i386 0:1.2.1-11.fc7 pyabiword.i386 0:0.6.0.svn20071027-1 python-devel.i386 0:2.5-12.fc7 python.i386 0:2.5-12.fc7 python-devel.i386 0:2.5-14.fc7 python.i386 0:2.5-14.fc7 python-libs.i386 0:2.5-12.fc7 python-libs.i386 0:2.5-14.fc7 tar.i386 2:1.15.1-27.fc7 tar.i386 2:1.15.1-28.fc7 vnc.i386 0:4.1.2-18.fc7 vnc-libs.i386 0:4.1.2-18.fc7 vnc.i386 0:4.1.2-19.fc7 vnc-libs.i386 0:4.1.2-19.fc7 wv.i386 0:1.2.4-1.fc7 --- libabiword.i386 2.6.0.svn20071027-1 --- - Updates for abiword 2.6 - New upstream snapshot --- libabiword-plugins.i386 2.6.0.svn20071027-1 --- - Updates for abiword 2.6 - New upstream snapshot - Add the loadbindings plugin --- pyabiword.i386 0.6.0.svn20071027-1 --- - Move from cvs to svn -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
is there space for Space for a joyride?
If there is still interest in the Space activity (layout of tree of neighbors according to distance) entering Joyride, do you need an .xo file or an .rpm? Pol ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
i18n L10n anomalies
People, Summary: L10n needs developers to push latest POT in d.l.o In our drive to get the L10n (Pootle) server running, we are faced with the situation where enough POs are out-of-line with their corresponding POT (as highlighted by Ed Trager). Below is a sample list of them (stats were taken using pocount and a grep for the date). Dates match, strings word count don't. In order to standardize the POs we need that developers to make sure that their latest POT are in d.l.o. -- by doing [./setup.py genpot] within their activities. We want to avoid losing or having to discard previous translations as much as possible. We think that the best way to track this is by filing a task ticket for each activity requesting the latest POT -- which we'll begin doing (unless there are objections). Cheers, Xavier == Sugar == Msg WordPOT-Creation-Date POT 42 63 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 - -- ar.po 44 65 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 de.po 44 65 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 el.po 45 66 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 es.po 48 70 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 fr.po 52 80 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 ha.po 49 71 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 ig.po 49 71 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 it.po 60 99 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 mk.po 44 65 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 pl.po 52 80 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 pt_BR.po45 66 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 yo.po 49 71 2007-10-21 09:46-0700 == Journal == POT 40 65 2007-09-08 19:43+0200 - -- es.po 50 79 2007-09-08 19:43+0200 fr.po 50 79 2007-09-08 19:43+0200 == Read / xbook == POT 6 7 2007-06-21 17:41+0200 - -- pt.po 10 18 2007-06-21 17:41+0200 == Web / Browse == POT 13 24 2007-08-19 20:16+0200 - -- es.po 14 26 2007-08-19 20:16+0200 == Write == POT 9 10 2007-06-21 17:33+0200 - -- ar.po 36 58 2007-06-21 17:33+0200 de.po 36 58 2007-06-21 17:33+0200 el.po 36 58 2007-06-21 17:33+0200 fr.po 36 58 2007-06-21 17:33+0200 pt_BR.po36 58 2007-06-21 17:33+0200 -- XA = Don't Panic! The Answer is 42 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: list of rouge packages
On Oct 29, 2007, at 20:01 , John (J5) Palmieri wrote: etoys This is in review at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi? id=247984 and https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=247983 Issue involves refusal to sign CLA which might be resolved via an olpc-cla agreement. Solution for now might be to review the packages and have someone else get them into Fedora. Build manager also needs to keep ontop of olpc-cla to make sure it goes through if needed. owner: bertf(Bert Freudenberg) tmprepo: etoys-2.1.1664-1.noarch.rpm squeak-vm-3.9-11olpc5.i386.rpm Versions that work in current Sugar are in the Joyride builds by way of ~bert/public_rpms/joyride (along with SRPMs). And I am bert in Trac, BertF in IRC, and bf in Squeak code. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Announcing q2d03
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Re: Request for Screen Reader Project Hosting
Done; the project is screen-reader in git -
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=projects/screen-reader;a=summary
BTW are you all on the accessability list? -
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On 10/28/07, Hemant Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I would request the development team to kindly provide us with project
hosting capabilities for our Screen Reader Project.
Here is the application with all the required data.
1. Project name : Screen Reader
2. Existing website, if any : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Screen_Reader
3. One-line description : A Screen Reading Service for the XO
4. Longer description :
The project aims to develop a global screen reading service for the xo. A
user can highlight text and use a keyboard shortcut and or a button in the
sugar environment to perform text to speech
synthesis.
5. URLs of similar projects : live.gnome.org/LSR
6. Committer list
Please list the maintainer (lead developer) as the first entry. Only
list
developers who need to be given accounts so that they can commit to
your
project's code repository, or push their own. There is no need to list
non-committer developers.
Username Full name SSH2 key
URLE-mail
-
--
#1 hemantgoyal Hemant Goyal http://www.nsitonline.in/hemant
/hemantgoyal.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#2 assimd Assim Deodia
http://www.nsitonline.in/assim/assim.pub
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
7. Preferred development model
[X] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the
project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be
familiar to
CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most
projects.
[ ] Maintainer-owned tree. Every developer creates his own git tree, or
multiple git trees. He periodically asks the maintainer to look at
one
or more of these trees, and merge changes into the
maintainer-owned,
main tree. This is the model used by the Linux kernel, and is
well-suited to projects wishing to maintain a tighter control on
code
entering the main tree.
8. Set up a project mailing list:
[ ] Yes, named after our project name
[ ] Yes, named __
[X] No
9. Commit notifications
[ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to the
list
we chose to create above
[ ] A separate mailing list, projectname-git, should be created for
commit
notifications
[X] No commit notifications, please
11. Notes/comments:
We would really appreciate it if the process is sped up keeping the fact
that Code Freeze is going to happen soon.
Thanks
--
Hemant
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New build 623
Build 623 ChangeLog Base OS: - kernel - 2.6.22 - 20071029.2.olpc.9ac5c83191d8b48 * additional jffs2 sanity checking to work around bugs in hard link breaking * a libertas patch to support having the wireless use less power (via beacon interval settings) * another libertas patch to decouple mesh and regular interface association; without this, we'd randomly lose connectivity. - olpcrd - 0.34 * remove the 'setattr' command in the first-boot path * replace the setattr command with /bin/true for now - bootfw - q2d03 * new ofw version Activities: - Paint - 12 * Journal is now used to import images - using Sugar's ObjectChooser (alexandre) * Drawing area now fits usable area (alexandre) * Fixed bug in Insert Image (andre) * Added rotate (andre) * Now effects can be used in selection (andre) -- This email was automatically generated Aggregated logs at http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/changelogs ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Signed build 623
A signed image for build 623 is at: http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/signed-623/ for those of you testing with security enabled. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: low-memory testing
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 11:23:13PM -0400, Albert Cahalan wrote: Current OOM score: /proc/*/oom_score Adjustment: /proc/*/oom_adj Adjustments run from -17 (never kill) to 15. Starting each activity with oom_adj=15 would be a good start. I've just tried something like that, and it worked nearly as well as I hoped. Build 623, on B4. Started a Sugar Console, hid it again, started Browse, then in an SSH session I set the Browse oom_adj to 15, left everything else as it was, and ran a fork-bomb consisting of a bash script that invokes itself. http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2007-10-30-os-623-b4-oom-dmesg.txt This shows the first to be killed was Browse, which was my intention. It did take a fair while for it to happen though, during which the system was very unresponsive. -- James Cameronmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://quozl.netrek.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: log-collect / log-send
On 10/29/07, Pascal Scheffers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've created a rough-cut log-collector, it's in d.l.o/git/project/log- activity/log-collect.py For now, it just outputs some system info, tell me what's missing or what would be interesting to include? My list from the whiteboard here (some of this you may already be including): a) the current date and time on the machine (in case the clock is set far to the future or past) b) what OS build? What firmware build? (i think you've got these already) c) output of /usr/bin/uptime d) network statistics -- can it reach www.laptop.org? what DNS is it using? basically, the output of /sbin/ifconfig, /sbin/route -n, and the contents of /etc/resolv.conf. I don't know yet how to list installed activities... would that be just `ls /usr/share/activities/`? Or is there a package list? /usr/share/activities and /home/olpc/Activities. Sugar might also provide an enumeration; I don't know. And then the main purpose: sending logs to OLPC, either using http- post or email or usb-stick or... but what logs should I collect? Just all of them? ~/.sugar/default/logs/* and /var/log/* ? Or should it be more selective? Probably the last 1k or so of each log, but there may be a --full command-line option to include the whole thing. I'd say http post is probably the most robust, but if the problems have to do with network connectivity, they'll want to put the logs on a USB stick or SD card. What about privacy/sensitive information? Will there be any in the logs or system info? Don't include the UUID. Other stuff should be okay. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: is there space for Space for a joyride?
i believe we need an rpm, because space has dependencies and a daemon component. but, yes -- given the rpm there is definitely a desire to add it to joyride. --scott On 10/29/07, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: about 100kb. Pol Bernardo Innocenti wrote: Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote: If there is still interest in the Space activity (layout of tree of neighbors according to distance) entering Joyride, do you need an .xo file or an .rpm? How big is the bundle? ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Compiler optimization for Geode/Floating Point pipeline
I don't know about the internals of current activities in Python, but I know where you can find reams of array code in C, FORTRAN, and other languages in 3D graphics libraries (4 x 4 matrix multiplication especially), multimedia compression and decompression, cryptography (particularly RSA exponentiation, but also elliptic curve cryptography, ssh key exchange, and others), audio and image processing (lots of convolutions), font rendering (quadratic and cubic splines), and other computationally intensive domains. The more we do on this front now, the better for the older students when they come to modeling, numeric integration, linear programming, linear algebra, computational molecular biology, and so on and on and on. I believe the GNU compilers use a common intermediate format and code generator for a variety of languages. Ah, here we go. http://gcc.gnu.org/ The GNU Compiler Collection includes front ends for C, C++, Objective-C, Fortran, Java, and Ada, as well as libraries for these languages (libstdc++, libgcj,...). There are over 1,000 hits on Geode in their archive. For example, -mtune=cpu-type ... geode Embedded AMD CPU with MMX and 3dNOW! instruction set support. While picking a specific cpu-type will schedule things appropriately for that particular chip, the compiler will not generate any code that does not run on the i386 without the -march=cpu-type option being used. ... -march=cpu-type Generate instructions for the machine type cpu-type. The choices for cpu-type are the same as for -mtune. Moreover, specifying -march=cpu-type implies -mtune=cpu-type. Interesting. It appears that much of the necessary work has been done, and we could get fairly good results if we just set up a small compile farm and comb through our current code base. With plenty of regression testing, of course. I have machine time to spare, and would be happy to recruit at the local LUGs. Or we could talk to distributed.net and BOINC. Much more performance would remain to be wrung out by rewriting small sections of some kinds of code, and presumably the true wizards could find more code generation optimizations than we have yet seen here. Does anybody know how we handle signal processing in the Tamtam software synth? The Fast Fourier Transforms for going from time domain to frequency domain in the data visualization activity are a prime target. It's all multiply-accumulate except for the bit twiddling. What is the theoretical performance of the Geode LX for various kinds of arithmetic? What performance are we getting? On 10/29/07, Brian Carnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The developers page on the wiki (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_program) mentions: compiler optimization: if you are a compiler wizard, we understand that the Geode lacks a specific back end code scheduler, which limits performance, particularly FP performance. We'd love to see work go on in this area which would help everyone. What aspects of this issue/request for help are still open? I'll go take a look at the OLPC build system tonight to see what is being used (late versions of GCC do have some Geode -mtune/-march modes), but would love to be hooked into whatever project is addressing this ...Or start my own project if I'm the first to step to the plate on this issue. If anyone knows any particularly lengthy floating-point dominated operations in the current software, let me know and we'll use them as our metric for improvement. Thanks, Brian ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin Earth Treasury: End Poverty at a Profit http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Earth_Treasury Sustainable MBA student Presidio School of Management ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Compiler optimization for Geode/Floating Point pipeline
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:33:22PM -0700, Brian Carnes wrote: What aspects of this issue/request for help are still open? I'll go take a look at the OLPC build system tonight to see what is being used (late versions of GCC do have some Geode -mtune/-march modes), but would love to be hooked into whatever project is addressing this There is more info on geode optimizations for GCC and glibc at: http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Building_OLPC_Tools. There is some minor tweaking of the optimizer for the geode, it's mostly treated as a pentium class processor. While it could be better, with these patches it's still better than the default of pentium. Anyway, I'd love to work with folks that are also into shaving cycles whereever possible. - rob - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Compiler optimization for Geode/Floating Point pipeline
(I'll stay lurking for the most part, I thought I'd just put in my 2c) On Mon, Oct 29, 2007, Rob Savoye wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:33:22PM -0700, Brian Carnes wrote: What aspects of this issue/request for help are still open? I'll go take a look at the OLPC build system tonight to see what is being used (late versions of GCC do have some Geode -mtune/-march modes), but would love to be hooked into whatever project is addressing this There is more info on geode optimizations for GCC and glibc at: http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Building_OLPC_Tools. There is some minor tweaking of the optimizer for the geode, it's mostly treated as a pentium class processor. While it could be better, with these patches it's still better than the default of pentium. Anyway, I'd love to work with folks that are also into shaving cycles whereever possible. Since you are lucky and target a fixed platform you could go the SGI/MacOSX type route - provide the math functions above in a set of libraries and then provide different libraries for CPU types - one for generic, one optimised for the current processor of choice, etc. You may have more luck with this over trying to rely on the compiler. There may also be hand-optimised versions of general math functions, if they're not included in the applications already. (Of course, the first place to start is profiling..) 2c Adrian ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OLPC News 2007-10-27
In some Irish family and place names Kill means boy (Gilroy, Kilroy, MacGillivray, etc. E.g. Irish Gaelic Mac Giolla Ruaidh 'son of the redhaired lad', similar to the name of the Scottish dance tune An Gillie Ruach, The Redhaired Boy). So Killjoy can be thought of as fun for children, entirely appropriately for the XO. On 10/27/07, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 14. Schedule: The upcoming releases have been renamed and re-purposed: Oct. 26: Trial-3 (Build 622) are the bits being loaded for mass production. This was completed this week. Nov. 16: Reload are bits that could possibly be loaded before shipping laptops to individuals. We will hand pick blocking bug fixes only if we need to. Dec. 07: Killjoy (V1.0, previously referred to as FRS or First Deployment) is a release based on the Joyride builds. This will include bug fixes/minor features that are in Joyride today; and we are actively moving some trac items to this release based on what we know about in the next week. Feature freeze for this is next week; code freeze the week after. Q1 2008: Future Release (V1.1) is the release after Killjoy. Not well defined. Right now it is where we moved all the features that didn't make it into Killjoy. (See https://dev.laptop.org/roadmap for more info.) As we do the triage for these builds, we'd very much appreciate community feedback as to what you think is important. Feel free to send email to Walter Bender, Kim Quirk, or Jim Gettys in regard to priorities. Not really important, but I cringe every time I read it - can we rename Killjoy to something more positively sounding? - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel -- Edward Cherlin Earth Treasury: End Poverty at a Profit http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Earth_Treasury Sustainable MBA student Presidio School of Management ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
