RE: Regarding mapping tables for nepali. (Prabhas Pokharel)

2008-04-06 Thread Bryan Berry
Prabhas Pokharel wrote:
Just wanted to make sure that you guys know about the work that has 
been done for nepalinux and associated project by this organization in
Nepal (http://madanpuraskar.org/).

Rabi is working closely w/ the team at Madan Puraskar Pustakalaya (MPP)
on the keyboard to make sure it is as close as possible to the Nepalinux
layout. We don't want to reinvent the wheel and MPP has done great
work. 


-- 
Bryan W. Berry
Systems Engineer
OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org

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Re: DBus - Sessionbus rights

2008-04-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 01:11:55AM -0400, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote:
 The SystemBus is used for communication between processes that belong to 
 different users. By default, /etc/dbus-1/system.conf says ...Deny 
 everything then punch holes Why do we forbid the default user 
 (olpc) by default from advertising processes under a well known name? 

Simple inertia combined with the fact that the authors of most processes
running as uid 500 have considered their software to be session
software rather than system software. If you feel differently, please
consider suggesting a policy that you think is a better fit for our
dvision of responsibility. (Though take into account the fact that we
are presently trying to get Sugar and its dependencies running on
non-OLPC systems.)

 What's wrong with user processes making their presence known on SystemBus?

My suspicion is that it's an anti-spoofing measure, but that's merely a
guess. Have you considered asking on one of the dbus mailing lists?

Michael
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Re: [sugar] Summer of Code update : applications so far, and thanks

2008-04-06 Thread Jameson Chema Quinn


 Finally, to stimulate discussion, below are a few applications that
 deserve more feedback and mentor attention.


2 points:
1. A lot of these are not on the wiki, or were not in the [[Category:GSoC
proposals]]. I've rectified that for the ones I could find, but I'd really
like to read some that I couldn't find. I understand that some people may
not have found all the different places for communication - the GSoC
website, this list, the wiki, IRC, the other mailing lists, trac it is a
lot to keep track of. So it would be great if mentors could use the GSoC
website to suggest to students that putting an application on the wiki will
get more feedback.

2. My app http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bityi/GSoC has gotten more feedback
than most, so I understand why I'm not on this list, but I still feel left
out. My idea is to modify Develop let you program in a Python based on your
own language, but keep it as English-based python on disk - it takes maybe a
few more words to describe than most applications because nothing like it
really exists anywhere else. And yet most of the feedback I've gotten has to
do more with technical or logistical points, not the basic question of
whether this new idea is worth doing. For those of you whose first language
is not English - do you think it would help people learn to program if the
keywords and basic modules were readable in your own language? (Don't just
think about your own case, think about your average potential programmer -
would it help?) If you have an answer, add it to the talk
pagehttp://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Bityi/GSoC- of course I'd love
any yesses, but if I get a couple of no's there's still
(barely) time for me to submit another Develop-related application.



 = Good applications that need review by a mentor with topic-specific
 expertise =

 * An XO Eclipse environment - Phan quoc huy


I really want to see this, it sounds very interesting.


 * Handwriting recognition - Juliana Lipková (Thomas Breuel, call your
 office)
 * your voice on XO - Alex Escalona, on community-wide building of new
 Festival voices for TTS


 = Projects attracting more than one good application =
 (e.g., where there are detailed comparisons to be made)

 * Typing tutor - at least three good proposals
 * Flashcards - at least two good proposals
 * [[Elements]] extension - at least two good proposals
 * Artificial neural network simulations - at least one good proposal
 * A light email client - a few proposals that need clarification
 * Blogging platforms -   
 * Finance activities  -  [[Finance One]], c


 = Other applications of note =

 == Core system components ==
 * The publish/share button - Robson Mendonça, Eric Burns
 * Server interface design - Michał Ściubidło and others
 * LustreFS for XO (Distributed mesh filesystem) - Evelina Stepanova
 * Memory/disk tuning (schoolserver) - Waseem Shaukat

  == Fundamental activities ==
 * [[Listen and Spell]] - Assim Deodia
 * Homework manager - Jason Tran
 * [[VideoEdit]] - Roberto Fagá
 * [[Coding Tutor]] - Rahul Bagaria


This is where I'd put my proposal, Bityi - on-screen code i18n in XO
Develop activity http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Bityi/GSoC. In other
words, the activity is Develop



 == Learning games ==
 * Incredible machine - Alex Levenson, with a prototype
 * [[PlayGo]] extensions - Brandon Wilson
 * Water Game - Lin Zhou, for learning water sanitation and safety
 * Garden Game - Javier Trejo, for learning genetics; developing in both en
 and es.


 Cheers,  SJ

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Re: fake X11 input driver?

2008-04-06 Thread Paul Fox
i wrote:
  the xorg.conf file on the XO has no traditional stanzas for
  pointer and keyboard.  this means there's no place to put options
  for things like ctrl:nocaps or emulate3buttons.
  
  is there a way to get the equivalent functionality some other
  way?  (i've tried xmodmap, with no success.  which also surprises
  me.)

i've now found part of this (no emulate3buttons) already filed as
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/5898
so i see that it's been brought up before.

(the other part (ctrl:nocaps), btw, isn't obsoleted by the
inspired control key placement on the XO keyboard.  it's an
issue with external usb keyboards.)

paul
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Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-06 Thread Ryan Crawford Comeaux
I'm not very concerned about FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) being spread
by providers of a competing operating system.  The inclusion of GPS data
into the system would be purely optional and currently and the XOs do not
have GPS capabilities.  A software implementation COULD be put in the system
that would contact a server that uses the XO's IP to identify the country
and possibly the city a machine is connecting from, but since the software
is open-sourced, it would be easy to remove from the system.
Regardless of all this, what I'm proposing is also completely optional an
available for anyone to use if they so choose.  My application would not be
contacting systems outside of the network that the machines are running on,
so any worries concerning privacy and control would be meaningless.

Thanks for your concern, though, and I appreciate any suggestions you may
have that would comfort people's fears concerning privacy, especially when
it comes to the program's use outside of the US.

- Crawford
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Re: [OLPC-GSoC] [sugar] Summer of Code update : applications so far, and thanks

2008-04-06 Thread Bobby Powers
Thanks Homunq (Jameson?) especially for the GSOC category maintenance.

I think I am in the same boat as you - I've gotten some feedback already but
would like to be included on the list for some more especially since I've
rewritten most of it in the past few days to focus more on development of an
activity.  In a nutshell I want to bring System Dynamics (SD) to the XO and
classrooms.  SD is an ideal way to implement a lot of constructionist ideas,
it gives kids an environment where they can can address real world problems
and face the challenge of learning what they need to know to accomplish the
task.  This all happens in an approach grounded in systems theory.  The full
app is here:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OpenSim

if anyone has any more comments (either positive, negative or on the
specifics) I'd love to hear them, even as the deadline is looming.

Thanks!
yours,
Bobby


2008/4/7 Jameson Chema Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



 
  Finally, to stimulate discussion, below are a few applications that
  deserve more feedback and mentor attention.
 

 2 points:
 1. A lot of these are not on the wiki, or were not in the [[Category:GSoC
 proposals]]. I've rectified that for the ones I could find, but I'd really
 like to read some that I couldn't find. I understand that some people may
 not have found all the different places for communication - the GSoC
 website, this list, the wiki, IRC, the other mailing lists, trac it is a
 lot to keep track of. So it would be great if mentors could use the GSoC
 website to suggest to students that putting an application on the wiki will
 get more feedback.

 2. My app http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Bityi/GSoC has gotten more feedback
 than most, so I understand why I'm not on this list, but I still feel left
 out. My idea is to modify Develop let you program in a Python based on your
 own language, but keep it as English-based python on disk - it takes maybe a
 few more words to describe than most applications because nothing like it
 really exists anywhere else. And yet most of the feedback I've gotten has to
 do more with technical or logistical points, not the basic question of
 whether this new idea is worth doing. For those of you whose first language
 is not English - do you think it would help people learn to program if the
 keywords and basic modules were readable in your own language? (Don't just
 think about your own case, think about your average potential programmer -
 would it help?) If you have an answer, add it to the talk 
 pagehttp://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Bityi/GSoC- of course I'd love any 
 yesses, but if I get a couple of no's there's still
 (barely) time for me to submit another Develop-related application.


 
  = Good applications that need review by a mentor with topic-specific
  expertise =
 
  * An XO Eclipse environment - Phan quoc huy


 I really want to see this, it sounds very interesting.


  * Handwriting recognition - Juliana Lipková (Thomas Breuel, call your
  office)
  * your voice on XO - Alex Escalona, on community-wide building of new
  Festival voices for TTS
 
 
  = Projects attracting more than one good application =
  (e.g., where there are detailed comparisons to be made)
 
  * Typing tutor - at least three good proposals
  * Flashcards - at least two good proposals
  * [[Elements]] extension - at least two good proposals
  * Artificial neural network simulations - at least one good proposal
  * A light email client - a few proposals that need clarification
  * Blogging platforms -   
  * Finance activities  -  [[Finance One]], c
 
 
  = Other applications of note =
 
  == Core system components ==
  * The publish/share button - Robson Mendonça, Eric Burns
  * Server interface design - Michał Ściubidło and others
  * LustreFS for XO (Distributed mesh filesystem) - Evelina Stepanova
  * Memory/disk tuning (schoolserver) - Waseem Shaukat
 
   == Fundamental activities ==
  * [[Listen and Spell]] - Assim Deodia
  * Homework manager - Jason Tran
  * [[VideoEdit]] - Roberto Fagá
  * [[Coding Tutor]] - Rahul Bagaria


 This is where I'd put my proposal, Bityi - on-screen code i18n in XO
 Develop activity http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Talk:Bityi/GSoC. In other
 words, the activity is Develop

 
 
  == Learning games ==
  * Incredible machine - Alex Levenson, with a prototype
  * [[PlayGo]] extensions - Brandon Wilson
  * Water Game - Lin Zhou, for learning water sanitation and safety
  * Garden Game - Javier Trejo, for learning genetics; developing in both
  en and es.
 
 
  Cheers,  SJ
 
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Listen and Spell Update

2008-04-06 Thread Assim Deodia
Hi All,

Based on SJ's comment I have updated my wiki page
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Listen_and_Spell. I have given the implementation
details of the Dictionary to be used in the activity. Can someone comment on
its feasibility in XO?

I have an another idea to implement the Dictionary. Saving all the
dictionary data in XO will take to much space. We can implement a dedicated
dictionary server in parallel to the school server. This would allow us to
store dictionary of other languages also. There are many dictionary server
available which are free to use. Some of them can be viewed here:
http://www.dict.org/links.html. Would it be possible to implement one of
these at school server?


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Regards
Assim Deodia | http://nsitonline.in/assim
Undergraduate Student, Netaji Shubhas Institute of Technology
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Re: [Server-devel] [OLPC Networking] RSSI value questions

2008-04-06 Thread Yama Ploskonka
I don't want to rain in anybody's party, but sadly the matter of a GPS 
related to the OLPC project has already become a matter of uninformed 
attack.  This is obviously a dissatisfied person's conspiracy theory, 
and I feel embarrassed to even repeat it, but Mr. Olivera of Argentina 
is telling anyone who will listen that XOs come already equipped with 
GPS part of a desire for world domination...
http://www.espectador.com/nota.php?idNota=89281

Coming from Bolivia I am well aware that to many truth is not really 
significant when something else will do...
http://www.eldiario.net any day

Yama

Ryan Crawford Comeaux wrote:
 Michael - 
  snip
   Also, by 
 attaching a GPS antenna to the server, an approximate GPS location could 
 be assigned to nodes within the network.  

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