Re: Upgrade G1G1 using autoreinstallation method

2008-06-18 Thread Pia Waugh
Hi all,

quote who=John Watlington

 I'm glad you found a solution.   Can you provide more information (such as
 exactly what model of AP are you using ?  Which versions of firmware
 worked/didn't work.)

Just wanted to give everyone an update. I bought a DLink DWL-2100AP which is
what David and Ian are trying to implement for their XO rollouts. We found
that we could not get DHCP working on the AP at all for either an XO or for
an IBM laptop running Ubuntu. We tried several different firmware versions
(although the AP is seemingly locked to European firmware and we can't use
the US ones) and the only way we could use it was as an AP that forwards
DHCP requests to the network.

We've spent about 4 hours today trying to troubleshoot the issues and I am
unfortunately going to have to recommend that the APs be plugged into a
network which plugs into an XS server for DHCP to get the XOs connected.
David, where you can't have an XS server you could always buy a different AP
or other DHCP allocation device per site for DHCP resolution as these APs
seem to be inappropriate for the job (at least the Australian ones).

Cheers,
Pia

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Idea Contest/OLPC France: Consolidating ongoing development projects

2008-06-18 Thread s . boutayeb
OLPC France is planning an Idea Contest:

http://llaske.free.fr/olpcfrance/index.php?title=Concours_d'idées_OLPC_France

to be announced at the 9th Libre Software Meeting, in Mont-de-Marsan from 1 to 5
july 2008 ( http://2008.rmll.info/ ).

In order to enhance existing development OLPC projects, we want to list the
projects for which additional contributors were appreciated.

The OLPC developers of ongoing projects are invited to add here:

http://llaske.free.fr/olpcfranc/index.php?title=Renforcement_de_projets_en_cours

their project with the following informations :

Project name

* name of the developer(s)
* contact information
* link to the project
* description of the project
* brief summary of the help needed

Thank you for your help

Best regards

Samy

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Idea Contest/OLPC France: correct link

2008-06-18 Thread s . boutayeb
The correct link for your submissions/propositions is:

http://llaske.free.fr/olpcfrance/index.php?title=Renforcement_de_projets_en_cours

Best regards,

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Fwd: Help requested test bidi/complex scripts for abiword stable branch.

2008-06-18 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, forwarding this request for help from the Abiword developers.

Would be great to improve Write's script support for the next
milestone (due in August).

Thanks!

Tomeu

-- Forwarded message --
From: Martin Edmund Sevior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Subject: Help requested test bidi/complex scripts for abiword stable branch.
To: Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Hi everyone,
   AbiWord provides the foundation for the write activity
within sugar. Very recently we discovered critical bu in  our 2.6
series which manifested itself as inconsistent layout and printing.

Fixing this required substantial changes to our core graphics
rendering classes. This might have affected AbiWord's (and hence
Write's) ability to  render bidirectional text and complex scripts.

Unfortunately our core abiword hackers are not proficient at either of
these so I'm asking for help from people who know about bi-directional
text and/or complex texts.

Please build our stable branch of the our code and report your tests
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can checkout the correct branch with this svn command.

svn co http://svn.abisource.com/abiword/branches/ABI-2-6-0-STABLE/ abiword-2.6

You'll need the development versions of a number of libraries to build
abiword though if your ever managed to build write via sugar-jhbuild
you'll have what you need already. More information is in
abiword-2.6/docs/build.txt

Thank you very much. All help is appreciated.

Cheers

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Re: [Localization] Fwd: Help requested test bidi/complex scripts for abiword stable branch.

2008-06-18 Thread Khaled Hosny
I already reported a bug about rendering of Arabic script, that I
believe related to this issue, while ago but got no response so far
http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11307

Regards,
 Khaled

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:43:47PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Hi, forwarding this request for help from the Abiword developers.
 
 Would be great to improve Write's script support for the next
 milestone (due in August).
 
 Thanks!
 
 Tomeu
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Martin Edmund Sevior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM
 Subject: Help requested test bidi/complex scripts for abiword stable branch.
 To: Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 Hi everyone,
AbiWord provides the foundation for the write activity
 within sugar. Very recently we discovered critical bu in  our 2.6
 series which manifested itself as inconsistent layout and printing.
 
 Fixing this required substantial changes to our core graphics
 rendering classes. This might have affected AbiWord's (and hence
 Write's) ability to  render bidirectional text and complex scripts.
 
 Unfortunately our core abiword hackers are not proficient at either of
 these so I'm asking for help from people who know about bi-directional
 text and/or complex texts.
 
 Please build our stable branch of the our code and report your tests
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 You can checkout the correct branch with this svn command.
 
 svn co http://svn.abisource.com/abiword/branches/ABI-2-6-0-STABLE/ abiword-2.6
 
 You'll need the development versions of a number of libraries to build
 abiword though if your ever managed to build write via sugar-jhbuild
 you'll have what you need already. More information is in
 abiword-2.6/docs/build.txt
 
 Thank you very much. All help is appreciated.
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: olpc3 boot

2008-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 17:22 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
 [Someone else now has the XO on which I was trying out the olpc3 
 installs, so I can not check things any more.]
 
 FYI -- this may have nothing to do with your ov6760 boot problem, 
 but when I was doing the olpc3 boots (e.g., 17 and 19), if I left 
 the XO alone, it would hang where Sugar was supposed to be 
 activated.  [It would get as far as the doughnut (or perhaps the 
 blank white screen immediately afterwards) but would then become 
 completely unresponsive - the only button (or key) which would work 
 was 'power off'.]
 
 My bypass was, when two dots (of the circle of dots of the boot 
 animation) had been drawn to the XO screen -- to press ctl-alt-F1 to 
 get into the text console.  Various initialization messages would 
 scroll by, and eventually the XO would (without me touching it) 
 shift itself over to the GUI screen, first showing blank white, then 
 the cursor, then the Sugar Home view.  [This way of avoiding a boot 
 hang was repeatable.]

Please file a ticket on trac (http://dev.laptop.org) for this. Thanks!

Daniel


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Re: cafe_ccic/ov7670 hang on boot

2008-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 13:08 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
 Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  OK, thanks for the input. However there doesn't seem to be a timeout in
  the case added by commit 6d77444aca29:
  +   do {
  +   prepare_to_wait(cam-smbus_wait, the_wait,
  +   TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
  +   schedule_timeout(1); /* even 1 jiffy is too long */
  +   finish_wait(cam-smbus_wait, the_wait);
  +   } while (!cafe_smbus_write_done(cam));
  
  
  I'm only guessing, but I have a feeling we're looping infinitely there.
 
 That, of course, would be easy enough to determine empirically.

I added a loop counter and made it print out a message when it reaches
the 500th iteration. It hit the condition rather quickly, and in the
first case: addr=0x42 command=0x46 value=0x58

This is one of the More reserved magic, some of which tweaks white
balance writes in ov7670_default_regs.

Turned it off, repeated the test, 2nd time it was different:
addr=0x42 command=0x69 value=0x0
This is the REG_GFIX write.

Reproduced it again, 3rd time: addr=0x42 command=0x45 value=0x34
This is another more reserved magic write.

There does not seem to be any consistency to the failures here.

  We're testing an XO with that patch reverted, so far so good but we
  should leave it for longer before making conclusions.

It has now rebooted 385 times without crashing, so this patch does
appear to be the culprit.

 But does that get you back to the long startup times that the patch went
 in to fix?  That won't make anybody happy.

As far as we can see, this patch was never included in any OLPC builds.
However, we do ship some other delay improvements such as 
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=olpc-2.6;a=commitdiff;h=4ef53002

Any thoughts on where we go from here?

Thanks,
Daniel


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Software Status Meeting Tomorrow @ 1400 EDT, 1800 UTC in #olpc-meeting on freenode

2008-06-18 Thread Michael Stone
Hey folks,

My sincere apologies for the short notice. If you're around, please join
us at the usual time and place: #olpc-meeting on irc.freenode.org for
our software status update.

Michael

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Re: Software Status Meeting Tomorrow @ 1400 EDT, 1800 UTC in #olpc-meeting on freenode

2008-06-18 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jun 18 2008, at 11:15, Michael Stone was caught saying:
 Hey folks,
 
 My sincere apologies for the short notice. If you're around, please join
 us at the usual time and place: #olpc-meeting on irc.freenode.org for
 our software status update.

Michael,

Do you mean today?

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Re: cafe_ccic/ov7670 hang on boot

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Daniel Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As far as we can see, this patch was never included in any OLPC builds.
 However, we do ship some other delay improvements such as 
 http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=olpc-2.6;a=commitdiff;h=4ef53002

That patch is a bit of a sledgehammer approach; it really should not be
necessary to do things that way.
 
 Any thoughts on where we go from here?

I'll try to look into it tomorrow.  Things may be slow; whenever I get
back into OLPC stuff after a long lapse it always seems to take me a day
to get back to where I can build new kernels and successfully install
them on a laptop.

Meanwhile:

 I added a loop counter and made it print out a message when it reaches
 the 500th iteration. It hit the condition rather quickly, and in the
 first case: addr=0x42 command=0x46 value=0x58

How quickly?  Given the schedule_timeout(1) call, it should take a good
five seconds to iterate five hundred times at HZ=100.  Might you
(generic OLPC you) have bumped HZ at some point?  If you have a
moment, could you try restoring the upstream code, but changing the
schedule_timeout() line to:

schedule_timeout(10);

My current hypothesis is that something is making the timeout happen too
quickly; if you try to query the Cafe chip too soon after starting an
SMBUS transfer, it goes off into a sulk and does weird things.  Assuming
that it's not interrupting (and it shouldn't be given that it has no
status to report), lengthening the timeout should tell whether this idea
has any basis in reality or not.

Thanks,

jon
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Re: Software Status Meeting Tomorrow @ 1400 EDT, 1800 UTC in #olpc-meeting on freenode

2008-06-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 07:45:22AM -0700, Deepak Saxena wrote:
 Do you mean today?

Yes, apologies. I'm on autopilot.

Michael
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Clarification: Software Status Meeting is TODAY @ usual time. (sorry for the earlier mistake)

2008-06-18 Thread Michael Stone
Apologies for the confusion.

Michael
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Re: cafe_ccic/ov7670 hang on boot

2008-06-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:55 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
 I'll try to look into it tomorrow.  Things may be slow; whenever I get
 back into OLPC stuff after a long lapse it always seems to take me a day
 to get back to where I can build new kernels and successfully install
 them on a laptop.

Feel free to ask me for help. I've just had to figure out all this stuff
for myself.

 Meanwhile:
 
  I added a loop counter and made it print out a message when it reaches
  the 500th iteration. It hit the condition rather quickly, and in the
  first case: addr=0x42 command=0x46 value=0x58
 
 How quickly?  Given the schedule_timeout(1) call, it should take a good
 five seconds to iterate five hundred times at HZ=100.  Might you
 (generic OLPC you) have bumped HZ at some point?  If you have a
 moment, could you try restoring the upstream code, but changing the
 schedule_timeout() line to:

Sorry, I didn't phrase that right. By quickly I meant that it only
took about 15 reboots before the infinite loop happened. For any
particular session where the inifinite loop happens, it does indeed take
about 5 seconds to hit the 500th iteration.

   schedule_timeout(10);

It doesn't help, already seen two crashes.

Erik also tried increasing the udelay() inside cafe_smbus_write_done()
from 20 to 100. No change, the infinite loop still happens.

Thanks,
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/tmp, /var/tmp and tmpfs (was: Re: [PATCH] ds_backup - major rework)

2008-06-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
Michael Stone's review of my recent patches to ds-backup raised some
issues about creating temp files (that wear NAND out) and about
successful backups on a full or otherwise RO NAND. See below...

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are we concerned about the cleanup code failing, for example because
 permissions were changed on the ds_path dir? If it permanently failed
 then I think our backup script would also permanently fail, which
 doesn't seem quite right. (If something's broken with my permissions,
 then I _want_ my backup script to take what data it can get and move it
 off the system, right?)

 Good point. This part of the code is removed, but I haven't made it a
 point to ensure that the code can backup a RO homedir. Actually, we
 aren't well setup for a RO root fs at all (should an error kick us
 into ro), /tmp is not a tmpfs!

To address both issues - RO/fulldisk-tolerant backup and less NAND
wear, we need /tmp to be a tmpfs. There are some risks in that -
namely, that programs might be using /tmp to write large stuff. That
is a pretty common bug in the unix world - mkstemp and friends to
straight for /tmp but for large stuff, /var/tmp is the place. Many
systems, old and new, use some kind of ramdisk for /tmp -

I would suggest a quick audit of likely suspects that we don't want to
see break (ie: olpc-update).

In any case, here's the bug:

 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7300

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] [PATCH] Introducing ds_backup.sh - a lightweight wrapper.

2008-06-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why not use /var/lock like everybody else? We can add appropriate users
 to the lock group if needed. (Or however Fedora does these things.) Are
 we better off making ~/.sugar/default contain our complete parallel
 FHS?

 I suggested /var/lock too, but I'm following Tomeu's hints here
 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-May/014440.html

 Better listen to Michael rather than me about systems programming ;)

After a bit of review of this -- with the intetion to move the lock
that ds-backup uses from a newfangled .sugar/default/lock to /var/lock
-- I don't think it's a good idea. Reasons:

 - /var/lock is for root only. We can add /var/lock/sugar but this
will only work for single-user systems - we are moving towards more
portability, this includes linuxen where multiple users (even if not
concurrent - ie ubuntu on my laptop). So who can write to
/var/lock/sugar and how do we keep separate dirs for each user becomes
a maintenance problem.

 - It adds complexity to ds-backup (at least create and chown dir to a
_hardcoded user acct_ in post-inst of the rpm) while adding nothing
for end users.

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] /tmp, /var/tmp and tmpfs (was: Re: [PATCH] ds_backup - major rework)

2008-06-18 Thread John Watlington

These comment apply equally to school server developers and laptop  
developers,
as we hope to start supporting school servers with 1GB Flash drives  
for the / and
boot partitions, and disk partitions (e.g. /library/) for supported  
services.  The goal
is to support OS, networking, and critical services in the presence  
of a disk failure.

wad

On Jun 18, 2008, at 1:52 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote:

 Michael Stone's review of my recent patches to ds-backup raised some
 issues about creating temp files (that wear NAND out) and about
 successful backups on a full or otherwise RO NAND. See below...

 On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Martin Langhoff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are we concerned about the cleanup code failing, for example because
 permissions were changed on the ds_path dir? If it permanently  
 failed
 then I think our backup script would also permanently fail, which
 doesn't seem quite right. (If something's broken with my  
 permissions,
 then I _want_ my backup script to take what data it can get and  
 move it
 off the system, right?)

 Good point. This part of the code is removed, but I haven't made it a
 point to ensure that the code can backup a RO homedir. Actually, we
 aren't well setup for a RO root fs at all (should an error kick us
 into ro), /tmp is not a tmpfs!

 To address both issues - RO/fulldisk-tolerant backup and less NAND
 wear, we need /tmp to be a tmpfs. There are some risks in that -
 namely, that programs might be using /tmp to write large stuff. That
 is a pretty common bug in the unix world - mkstemp and friends to
 straight for /tmp but for large stuff, /var/tmp is the place. Many
 systems, old and new, use some kind of ramdisk for /tmp -

 I would suggest a quick audit of likely suspects that we don't want to
 see break (ie: olpc-update).

 In any case, here's the bug:

  http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7300

 cheers,



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Project name : Model is set up

2008-06-18 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Mon, May 26, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Bobby Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1. Project name : Model

Done. Your tree is here:
git+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/git/activities/model

Please follow instructions here for importing your project:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Importing_your_project

Let us know if you have any problems with your tree. Happy hacking.

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Re: /tmp, /var/tmp and tmpfs (was: Re: [PATCH] ds_backup - major rework)

2008-06-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Good point. This part of the code is removed, but I haven't made it a
 point to ensure that the code can backup a RO homedir. Actually, we
 aren't well setup for a RO root fs at all (should an error kick us
 into ro), /tmp is not a tmpfs!

From IRC:
m_stone martin_xsa: see /etc/rwtab
m_stone (Stateless linux
m_stone )
m_stone and check /proc/mounts

Ah, grumble. We were both fooled by calling mount and not seeing the
tmpfs mountpoints.

bug closed, apologies all around


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Project name : Bundlemaker is set up

2008-06-18 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:45:21 -0400,  Mel Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1. Project name : Bundlemaker

Done. Your tree is here:
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Re: [Localization] Fwd: Help requested test bidi/complex scripts for abiword stable branch.

2008-06-18 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Seemed to come across some issues wrt Indic as well, with some quick
testing. Bug report at
http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11670

Thanks,
Sayamindu



2008/6/18 Khaled Hosny [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I already reported a bug about rendering of Arabic script, that I
 believe related to this issue, while ago but got no response so far
 http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11307

 Regards,
  Khaled

 On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:43:47PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 Hi, forwarding this request for help from the Abiword developers.

 Would be great to improve Write's script support for the next
 milestone (due in August).

 Thanks!

 Tomeu

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Martin Edmund Sevior [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM
 Subject: Help requested test bidi/complex scripts for abiword stable branch.
 To: Tomeu Vizoso [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Hi everyone,
AbiWord provides the foundation for the write activity
 within sugar. Very recently we discovered critical bu in  our 2.6
 series which manifested itself as inconsistent layout and printing.

 Fixing this required substantial changes to our core graphics
 rendering classes. This might have affected AbiWord's (and hence
 Write's) ability to  render bidirectional text and complex scripts.

 Unfortunately our core abiword hackers are not proficient at either of
 these so I'm asking for help from people who know about bi-directional
 text and/or complex texts.

 Please build our stable branch of the our code and report your tests
 to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 You can checkout the correct branch with this svn command.

 svn co http://svn.abisource.com/abiword/branches/ABI-2-6-0-STABLE/ 
 abiword-2.6

 You'll need the development versions of a number of libraries to build
 abiword though if your ever managed to build write via sugar-jhbuild
 you'll have what you need already. More information is in
 abiword-2.6/docs/build.txt

 Thank you very much. All help is appreciated.

 Cheers

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Physics activity project hosting

2008-06-18 Thread Brian Jordan
1. Project name :  Physics activity
2. Existing website, if any :
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Bjordan/Physics.activity
3. One-line description :  A 2D Physics playground for kids

4. Longer description   :  This activity will allow for the
simulation of physical
:  bodies and forces that act upon bodies
in the real world
:  (in 2 dimensions). Joints, freehand
polygon drawing
:  and object fixing will also be supported.

5. URLs of similar projects :
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=activities/numpty-physics;a=summary
http://www.assembla.com/wiki/show/elements
http://www.box2d.org/

6. Committer list
   Please list the maintainer (lead developer) as the first entry. Only list
   developers who need to be given accounts so that they can commit to your
   project's code repository, or push their own. There is no need to list
   non-committer developers.

  Username   Full name SSH2 key URLE-mail
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   #1 brian (need acct) | Brian Jordan |
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Bjordan/SSH_key | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   #2
   #3
  ...

   If any developers don't have their SSH2 keys on the web, please attach them
   to the application e-mail.

7. Preferred development model

   [X] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the
   project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be familiar to
   CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most projects.

   [ ] Maintainer-owned tree. Every developer creates his own git tree, or
   multiple git trees. He periodically asks the maintainer to look at one
   or more of these trees, and merge changes into the maintainer-owned,
   main tree. This is the model used by the Linux kernel, and is
   well-suited to projects wishing to maintain a tighter control on code
   entering the main tree.

   If you choose the maintainer-owned tree model, but wish to set up some
   shared trees where all of your project's committers can commit directly,
   as might be the case with a discussion tree, or a tree for an individual
   feature, you may send us such a request by e-mail, and we will set up the
   tree for you.

8. Set up a project mailing list:

   [ ] Yes, named after our project name
   [ ] Yes, named __
   [X] No

   When your project is just getting off the ground, we suggest you eschew
   a separate mailing list and instead keep discussion about your project
   on the main OLPC development list. This will give you more input and
   potentially attract more developers to your project; when the volume of
   messages related to your project reaches some critical mass, we can
   trivially create a separate mailing list for you.

   If you need multiple lists, let us know. We discourage having many
   mailing lists for smaller projects, as this tends to
   stunt the growth of your project community. You can always add more lists
   later.

9. Commit notifications

   [ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to the list
   we chose to create above
   [X] A separate mailing list, projectname-git, should be created for commit
   notifications
   [ ] No commit notifications, please

10. Shell accounts

   As a general rule, we don't provide shell accounts to developers unless
   there's a demonstrated need. If you have one, please explain here, and
   list the usernames of the committers above needing shell access.

11. Translation
   [X] Set up the laptop.org Pootle server to allow translation
commits to be made
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12. Notes/comments:
If you reject this, I'll stop using headphones in the office. Bad news.
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Moving joyride to use OLPC-3?

2008-06-18 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Hello,

what is left to do before we can make joyride pull from the OLPC-3
branch? We made new sugar rpms a week ago and people still need to
install them manually... August is 5 weeks away.

Marco
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Re: [Server-devel] Edublog - How do I select tinyMCE in moodle?

2008-06-18 Thread Tarun Pondicherry
Hi Martin,

 From my reading of the forums it looks like users can choose the editor 
they want to use in 2.0.  I couldn't find any working patches for 1.9 
(tried a few and got lots of errors).  Most are for the latest version.  
I was able to get tinyMCE working if I upgrade to 1.9.1.  I'm curious if 
the XS build will upgrade Moodle 1.9.1 anytime soon.  For Edublog, will 
it matter much which version we use?  We need to do the install of 
Moodle ourselves anyway right, since it will be a while before it gets 
on the XS with the EduBlog modifications?

Thanks,
Tarun

Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Tarun Pondicherry
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Just wondering, is the decision to switch to tinyMCE in Moodle final?  Or at
 least for the Moodle that will be on the XS?  I wouldn't want to spend time
 modding it only to find out I have to mod something else again later.
 

 Unsure, it's not my area - I heard MartinD on Monday say that tinyMCE
 was going to be the default editor for 2.0. He makes the final call,
 so when you scan those threads, check out what he says, and if Eloy or
 Petr Skodak chime in.

 That might be a tough decision - which editor to support - do some
 research, perhaps check if any GSoC efforts are on the editor.

 cheers,



 m
   

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Re: [Server-devel] kernel panic in XS-163

2008-06-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Tony Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Martin,
 I tried different kernels:
 2.6.25.04-fd16 Gentoo-based SysRescueCD -- works
 2.6.23.17-88.fc7  Fedora 7-i386 install DVD -- works
 2.6.23.1-21.fc7  the XS-163 CD -- kernel panic
 2.6.21-1.3194.fc7 Fedora 7-i386 install DVD alternate kernel -- works

Interesting - so the bug only appears with 2.6.23.1-21.fc7

 So, I took the cover off the machine and unplugged the second drive, so that
 now there is only a single SATA
 disk.  In this configuration, XS-163 CD (unmodified, straight from the OLPC
 website) installs just fine.  This
 clears a major hurdle.  Apparently having two identical SATA drives was
 enough for it to think that software or
 hardware-assisted RAID would be used, and changes /dev/sda to
 /dev/mapper/pdc_bbbh.

Good thinking - I think you're right in the diagnosis. Keep us posted





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Re: [Server-devel] Edublog - How do I select tinyMCE in moodle?

2008-06-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Tarun Pondicherry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For Edublog, will it matter much
 which version we use?

Sorry, perhaps I haven't been clear - when I've said 1.9, I was
thinking of the tip of MOODLE_19_STABLE, the latest in the 1.9.x
series. Right now, it would be 1.9.1+. So what I've always done is
to work on top of the tip of the current MOODLE_XX_STABLE branch
(often people say _STABLE to refer to it), so as to be able to
deliver within short timeframes. And at the same time, keeping an eye
on HEAD, and having a reasonable idea of what it'll take to port it to
HEAD, so that we can include it in the next official release.

Tricky ;-)

So in terms of editor matters, I would use the latest _STABLE, with
the patches to enable TinyMCE (assuming TinyMCE is the v2.0 target),
so you any work on tuning the editor can be applicable to v2.0 later.
There are a couple of changes in 2.0 that will mean some minor rework,
but we can't worry about that yet.

cheers,




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