New joyride build 2088

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Changes in build 2088 from build: 2087

Size delta: 69.07M

-bootanim 1.1-1
+bootanim 1.2-1
+olpc-library-core 1-26
-olpcrd 0.44-0
+olpcrd 0.45-0
-initscripts 8.76.2-1.olpc3.5
+initscripts 8.76.2-1.olpc3.6

--- Changes for bootanim 1.2-1 from 1.1-1 ---
  + Use compressed format for animation frames (trac #5535, #4281).
  + Slightly improve 'locked' and 'stolen' XO man icons.

--- Included olpc-library-core version 1-26 ---

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Re: Olpc3 vs Joyride

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Sunday 29 June 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> Am 30.06.2008 um 00:05 schrieb Dennis Gilmore:
> > On Sunday 29 June 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> >> I reanimated my script that shows differences between the latest
> >> joyride and candidate builds:
> >>
> >> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html
> >>
> >> ... and in particular added a section to easily see what packages are
> >> in olpc3 and not in joyride, and vice versa.
> >>
> >> There are not only differences in package versions, but also in which
> >> packages are in. I wondered, for example, why csound is missing from
> >> joyride ...
> >
> > a second copy of csound landed in fedora as olpcsound.  it is built
> > specifically for olpc  and is in joyride.
>
> If it was named csound-olpc that would have been more obvious ...
>
> - Bert -
Yes,  first i heard of it was when i was asked to switch out csound and csound-
python for olpcsound.   Had i been asked before hand i could have suggested a 
way that the csound spec could have produced  csound csound-python and csound-
olpc.  but what is done is done.  I personally don't like anything being 
called olpc-foo,  I think we should write code that is useful outside of OLPC, 
useful to the whole world.  In which case  the naming is really a poor choice.

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Re: Olpc3 vs Joyride

[Bert Freudenberg]

Am 29.06.2008 um 23:30 schrieb C. Scott Ananian:

>> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-joyride.html
> Any chance you could add a size comparison to that page?

Not easily :/

Reinier's script is much more extensible, maybe you can get him to add  
such a diff page.

I also would find a date on my build log pages useful but it would be  
too big an effort to add. Yeah, bad initial design on my part, it was  
supposed to be a tiny script ;)

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Re: Olpc3 vs Joyride

[Bert Freudenberg]

Am 30.06.2008 um 00:05 schrieb Dennis Gilmore:

> On Sunday 29 June 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>> I reanimated my script that shows differences between the latest
>> joyride and candidate builds:
>>
>> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html
>>
>> ... and in particular added a section to easily see what packages are
>> in olpc3 and not in joyride, and vice versa.
>>
>> There are not only differences in package versions, but also in which
>> packages are in. I wondered, for example, why csound is missing from
>> joyride ...
> a second copy of csound landed in fedora as olpcsound.  it is built
> specifically for olpc  and is in joyride.


If it was named csound-olpc that would have been more obvious ...

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Re: Olpc3 vs Joyride

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Sunday 29 June 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> I reanimated my script that shows differences between the latest
> joyride and candidate builds:
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html
>
> ... and in particular added a section to easily see what packages are
> in olpc3 and not in joyride, and vice versa.
>
> There are not only differences in package versions, but also in which
> packages are in. I wondered, for example, why csound is missing from
> joyride ...
a second copy of csound landed in fedora as olpcsound.  it is built 
specifically for olpc  and is in joyride.

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Re: Olpc3 vs Joyride

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's what it used to show ... had not heard of the demise of olpc3,
> and I thought update.1 was a done deal.
>
> But as you wish :)
>
> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-joyride.html
>
> Hope it's helpful.

It's useful because it helps me keep a tab on bloat & whether we've
inadvertently dropped anything important since our last 'stable'.
It's currently telling me that http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/7353 still
has a lot of work to be done. (sigh)

Any chance you could add a size comparison to that page?  The .img
sizes are a good measure of 'space on NAND' and the .usb sizes are a
good "uncompressed size" (roughly the size taken up by the build on
the upgrade server, for instance).  I'd like to insist that we not
ship 8.2 until we're within x% of the size of 8.1 (update.1), for some
small value of x.
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Re: Olpc3 vs Joyride

[Bert Freudenberg]

Am 29.06.2008 um 22:57 schrieb C. Scott Ananian:

>
>>> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html
>>
>> ... and in particular added a section to easily see what packages are
>> in olpc3 and not in joyride, and vice versa.
>
> olpc3 is a dead branch.
> I also turned off builds on the 'faster' branch for now

Oh, that's news to me. Okay, I removed those.

> The olpc3-vs-joyride difference engine would be more useful if it
> could show the differences between update.1 and joyride.

That's what it used to show ... had not heard of the demise of olpc3,  
and I thought update.1 was a done deal.

But as you wish :)

http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/update.1-joyride.html

Hope it's helpful.

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Re: joyride builds

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am 29.06.2008 um 11:58 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> from joyride 2083, we don't get announcements, and 2084 is the last
>> build offering images and that can be updated with olpc-update.
>>
>> Anybody knows what's going on?

Yes, joyride-2085 and joyride-2086 failed to build, because I botched
a filename in a pilgrim patch for trac #3569.

> The streams where moved from
> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams
> to
> http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams
> and curl does not follow the "301 Moved Permanently" redirect.

Incidentally, the streams moved on  Fri Dec 21 14:15:06 2007 -0500
according to pilgrim's git log, but I'd kept a symlink around with the
old name for convenience.

I recently replaced the symlink with an apache redirect, which
apparently upset curl.  Sorry.

> Also, I removed the old update.1-joyride diff and replaced it by this
> currently useful one:
> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html

Actually, the update.1 is the currently useful diff, as explained in
my earlier email.  olpc3 was a throwaway branch, which is now thrown
away.
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Re: Olpc3 vs Joyride

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Bert Freudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I reanimated my script that shows differences between the latest
> joyride and candidate builds:

Thanks!  I'd noticed it was down, and missed it.

>> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html
>
> ... and in particular added a section to easily see what packages are
> in olpc3 and not in joyride, and vice versa.

olpc3 is a dead branch.  As promised, joyride was shifted to the F9
repositories once olpc3 got the packages to the state where things
booted, etc., and olpc3's mission in life is over.

I also turned off builds on the 'faster' branch for now, since
shifting to the F9 repositories had broken them and (I believe that)
all the interesting features of the faster branch have been merged
into joyride by now.

Consider olpc3 and faster to have served the function of debian's
"experimental":
http://www.us.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-resources#s-experimental

The olpc3-vs-joyride difference engine would be more useful if it
could show the differences between update.1 and joyride.

> There are not only differences in package versions, but also in which
> packages are in. I wondered, for example, why csound is missing from
> joyride ...

The F9 merge put a lot of things in flux, and we're working on
restoring roughly the previous package set.  See trac #7353 for an
analysis of (some of) the unwanted cruft which has snuck in, and tabs
on our efforts to get it back out again.

According to 
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/pilgrim;a=commitdiff;h=a507d77af0504af3668fe6db886dcc729224b516
csound was replaced by an 'olpcsound' package.  You'd have to ask
either Dennis or the csound maintainers for more details.

If you find other packages in a comparison to update.1 which are
either (a) present, but shouldn't be, and now already mentioned at
trac #7353, or (b) absent but shouldn't be, please file a trac bug.
Assign it to dgilmore, cc cscott, and add that it blocks 7353 if
appropriate.  Thanks!
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Re: boot-anim

[C. Scott Ananian]

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Erik Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 12:00:54PM -0400, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
>> I'm about to leave for 10 days vacation; bonus points to anyone who
>> can take the 4 line change to ppmto565.py and turn this into a 'real'
>> patch for 8.2.  Source code is at:
>>   http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/act-gui;a=summary

I win:
  
http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/act-gui;a=commitdiff;h=18ea3c1f906cdde9e700806e7eee001c253ff2b3

bootanim 1.2 should be in the next joyride.
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New joyride build 2087

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http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2087

Changes in build 2087 from build: 2083

Size delta: -5.11M

-olpcupdate 2.9-1
+olpcupdate 2.10-1
-dbench 3.04-7.fc9
-xorg-x11-apps 7.3-3.fc9
-xorg-x11-twm 1:1.0.3-2.fc9
-xterm 235-1.fc9

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  + Use latest bitfrost.leases package with convenient routines for checking
  + Actually verify developer key when double-checking update safety.

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Olpc3 vs Joyride

[Bert Freudenberg]

I reanimated my script that shows differences between the latest  
joyride and candidate builds:

http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html

... and in particular added a section to easily see what packages are  
in olpc3 and not in joyride, and vice versa.

There are not only differences in package versions, but also in which  
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Re: joyride builds

[Bert Freudenberg]

Am 29.06.2008 um 11:58 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:

> Hi,
>
> from joyride 2083, we don't get announcements, and 2084 is the last
> build offering images and that can be updated with olpc-update.
>
> Anybody knows what's going on?


No, but I found out ;)

The streams where moved from
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams
to
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams
and curl does not follow the "301 Moved Permanently" redirect.

I now adapted my script to wget and changed to the new URL, so the  
list diff page works again:
http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/joyride-pkgs.html

Also, I removed the old update.1-joyride diff and replaced it by this  
currently useful one:
http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html

But the email announcer is nowadays operated by Reinier, don't know if  
his script needs changes too.

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Re: joyride builds

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Sunday 29 June 2008, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> Hi,
>
> from joyride 2083, we don't get announcements, and 2084 is the last
> build offering images and that can be updated with olpc-update.
>
> Anybody knows what's going on?
somebody removed 2085 and 2086 

I restarted the announcer even though it seemed to be running ok.

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Re: [IAEP] etoys now available in Debian's non-free repository

[K. K. Subramaniam]

On Saturday 28 Jun 2008 8:05:41 am Alan Kay wrote:
> The "sources" and "changes" files (the changes are the incremental history
> to the sources) don't have to be external to the image, but they have been
> made so since Smalltalk started to be implemented on computers that had
> fallen back to the bad old idea of operating systems and file systems. This
> is easy to find out about in a variety of ways.
>
> But there is something further to ponder about this method from the 70s.
> And that is the idea that as scaling advances under Moore's Law, it will be
> less and less a good idea to rebuild from scratch (and more and more
> difficult).
Well, there will always be people who will seek to build (or trace the path of 
evolution) from scratch, if only to study how the whole "thing" evolved. 
Others may want to study a suspended image to see what is in it and how it 
managed to get into such a state. Some people just choose to become 
archaeologists, paleontologists and even pathologists.

For those who have been working with live images for decades, this direction 
of learning may not be of interest, but it would help if they can point out 
the way and let others make their own journey.

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Re: Ticket cloning

[Kim Quirk]

Thanks Noah!
Kim

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Noah Kantrowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I have enabled ticket cloning support on dev.laptop.org. Just use the
> new Clone button on the ticket form. Enjoy.
>
> --Noah
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Re: Translation Technology

[Jim Gettys]

The other *key* point to enabling translations is to have good
terminology defined in advance for a new language; otherwise, since much
of the terminology (or even basic vocabulary) won't exist in many of the
languages, we'll get back translations that have no consistency
whatsoever (in languages for which computers are new).  And this
terminology may need to exist in (a) language(s) other than English.
Example: in Peru they have delayed translating to Quechua or Aymara in
large part that most of the people who might do the translation speak
Spanish, rather than English.
- Jim

On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 17:46 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> Yesterday, Sayamindu, Jim, Chris, Eben, Dennis, and I met to discuss
> what technology we could provide to improve the experience of producing
> and consuming translations and other localization data on the XO.
> 
> We sought to address three questions:
> 
>  1) How can we make "some" (then "every") string translatable. 
> 
>  2) How do we distribute translations?
> 
>  3) How can we separate translations from builds so that new translation
> improvements can be incorporated long after an operating system is
> released?
> 
> Our conclusions were that we could satisfactorily address these
> questions by providing:
> 
>  * a disconnected on-XO translation interface.
> 
>  - Could be implemented as an activity named Translate. That
>activity might:
>
>  + spider the build for translatable strings in activities and
>Sugar.
> 
>  + suggest appropriate terminology as possible.
> 
>  * for medium-privilege modification of translations.
> 
>  * for horizontal distribution of translations via some low-latency
>network.
> 
>  * for vertical distribution of translations via some delay-tolerant
>network.
> 
>  * a 'big undo' button similar to the olpc-update 'undo' mechanism which
>permits experimentation with translations.
> 
>  * for customization of translations via our existing USB customization
>technology and in the follow-on image-builder technology.
> 
>  - we discussed two implementation ideas:
> 
>  + to teach the customization infrastructure about translations
> 
>  + to teach the customization infrastructure to install RPMs
> 
>but no consensus was reached.
> 
> We believe that supplying this technology and infrastructure would:
> 
>   * go a long way toward our long-term dream of permitting every child
> using our software to learn in his or her native language(s).
> 
>   * greatly improve the ability of bilingual individuals using our
> technology to autonomously improve the quality and coverage of our
> translations regardless of their access to internet connectivity.
> 
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Re: downloaded files and the Journal

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 7:36 AM, S Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was exploring the OLPC Library in Browse in build 703.  The transition
> from browsing to viewing a PDF in Read is pretty clunky, I noted the
> glitches in
> 
>
> The oddest thing is that every time you click on a PDF, another copy of
> the PDF is saved to the Journal's datastore.
>
> This sounds intentional as part of the fix for "Read doesn't save the
> PDFs it opens (Trac #6729)".  I think the Browse activity is putting the
> file in the Journal, as the extra copy appears in the Journal's
> datastore even before I run Read.
>
> But this doesn't make sense for read-only local files in the OLPC
> library like images > world maps > click Africa.  I've now got 7 copies
> of this .5MB PDF in ~/.sugar/default/datastore/store, each identical to
> /usr/share/activities/worldfactbook-maps/africa.pdf ; seems a
> significant waste of space.  (Or does JFFS2 magically optimize multiple
> copies of the same bits?  df -k reports mtd0 dropping by about the size
> of the PDF.)
>
> If Evince worked as a browser plug-in, maybe the duplicated files would
> go away (along with some other glitches).  However, "Consider unifying
> Read and Web (Trac #3212)" was rejected.
>
> If viewing PDFs remains a separate activity from Browse, then maybe the
> Browse activity could detect that it's "downloading" a local read-only
> file, and rather than the confusing download step leading to a copy in
> the Journal's datastore, it could just pass the local file:/// URL to
> Read on the command line.
>
> But even if Browse bypassed the download step for local files, the
> problem of multiple copies remains for remote files.  I think each time
> I return to a PDF on the Internet, the Browse download step likewise
> makes another copy of the PDF in the Journal's datastore.
>
> Has anyone considered making the Journal a two-level store, so that if I
> download the same file 7 times there's only one copy in the datastore,
> using symlinks or references or other magic?  Maybe this could even be
> made visible in the UI:
> "You've downloaded this file 7 times already, please check the Journal
> before repeating yourself.  Sheesh kid do you think the Intertubes is
> free?!"
>
> Meanwhile, the OLPC Library should prefer HTML or SVG content over
> single-page PDFs.
>
> (The problem of local copies of Web content isn't unique to Sugar.  On
> my desktop PC I'll save stuff from the browser locally then forget that
> I've done so.  I want a browser and O.S. that opportunistically treats
> everything on my hard drive as a local cache of something from the
> Internet that might be updated, or have disappeared.)
>
>
> If I'm wasting time here with obvious rehash, I apologize and cut me
> off.  And/or I can file enhancement bugs for these ideas.

These problems are known of, and hasn't been solved yet because of
lack of man power. If you wanted to search in trac and review that the
tickets in there contain all the relevant information, would be very
nice.

Thanks,

Tomeu
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Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

[Marco Pesenti Gritti]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I propose a '8.1+peru-2' system for referring to combinations of core OS
>> + activities
>
> I tend to agree. Exposing the raw number of the reference OS.

I meant to say, exposing the raw number of the reference OS is confusing.

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Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

[Marco Pesenti Gritti]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 5:07 AM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I propose a '8.1+peru-2' system for referring to combinations of core OS
> + activities

I tend to agree. Exposing the raw number of the reference OS.

> and I formally request synchronizing our release schedule
> with Fedora's.

That would be good, how can we do it though? A short 8.3 in November
this year to get in sync?

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joyride builds

[Tomeu Vizoso]

Hi,

from joyride 2083, we don't get announcements, and 2084 is the last
build offering images and that can be updated with olpc-update.

Anybody knows what's going on?

Thanks,

Tomeu
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Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

[Tomeu Vizoso]

Bryan Berry wrote:
> 
>> 3) Stable collaboration :) I know this is a hard one.
> 
>> We just put Cerebro into joyride. We think that some activities, such as
>> Read, will be easy to modify to use it. You might try it and see. Which
>> activities do you care about most in this regard?
> 
> We care most about Write. I will have to test out Cerebro. Maybe I can get 
> Pradosh, our new intern to work on it
> this week.

The collaboration component in Abiword (AbiCollab) is written in C++, 
and AFAIK Cerebro currently only offers a Python API. I think that 
AbiCollab is designed to have different network backends, so that may 
help in writing a new one that used Cerebro (if there was a C-callable API).

Regards,

Tomeu

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Re: First Draft Development Process Proposal

[Tomeu Vizoso]

Michael Stone wrote:
> Bryan,
> 
> Thanks very much for the detailed feedback. Here are my comments:
> 
>> 1) Be able to remove activities to free up space, including activities
>> that come pre-installed. 
> 
> Noted. Can you or Bernie supply a patch which accomplishes the desired
> behavior? If someone can come up with a halfway decent patch, I'm more
> than happy to try to see that this gets resolved.

If possible, try to coordinate with Eben. I think that we can find a 
simple solution that can be accepted in Sugar and won't need to change 
in the near future (which could be a problem from the support point of 
view). (This may be better discussed in trac)

>> 3) Stable collaboration :) I know this is a hard one.
> 
> We just put Cerebro into joyride. We think that some activities, such as
> Read, will be easy to modify to use it. You might try it and see. Which
> activities do you care about most in this regard?
> 
> (If you want to play with Cerebro on your existing image, then just
> install the RPM and poke Polychronis if you need help.)

I thought the plan was to find a way to use Cerebro without having to 
rewrite activities. Has this changed or are you just suggesting a short 
term solution?

Regards,

Tomeu

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font size in Tcl/Tk

[Christian Kurtsiefer]

Hi,

don't know if anyone out there is still playing with Tcl/Tk, but we have 
a collection of glue software for measurement apps we would like to get 
running on the olpc, but the I somehow cannot manage to increase the 
font size - I had a look at the micropolis code, but it seems that it 
also uses only very tiny fonts in the packed Activity.

Is anyone out there who is able to complete this code snippet to 
increase the font size on the olpc (I have a built 703)?

#!/usr/bin/wish
label .l -text "some text"
pack .l

I tried variations of the following line

.l configure -font 6x13

with the few other fonts than 6x13 showing up with xlsfonts, but without 
any success in changing something apparent. Anyone knows the root cause 
of the problem? Is this related to the issue that it is at least not 
straightforward to start an xterm with larger font sizes?

thanks!
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