Re: Hardware Errors -- any hope?
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 11:50 > This sounds more like a problem with the USB key, not the motherboard. > If the controller were having trouble transferring data, it wouldn't > be so > consistent about making it to 29 MB with no error. I will take your suggestion and try another usb key. I tried two different USB keys that could transfer 156 MB easily to other XO's. I only recorded that one failed consistently at 29 MB. I didn't record at which point the other USB key failed. I will try another USB key today to test it out. > > Machine #2 Bad Nand-flash > > > > The machine won't boot. OFW scans for boot disk and finds nothing. The > > boot device is set to \boot\olpc.fth > > > > Copy-nand returns an error the Nand Flash can't be opened. > > > > Firmware test-all: > > Testing pci/nandflash > > Self test failed Return code -1 > > > > This machine was out in the field for about 4 months. I am really > > surprised that the nand flash has failed. > > We have seen a small number of units showing this problem. I would > love to get the motherboard for failure analysis... I can see about sending it to you. -- Bryan W. Berry Systems Engineer OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Frimware Q2E15 and Joyride-2368, good and bad
C. Scott Ananian wrote: > On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Ton van Overbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The bad: >> - Bounce (aka 3Dpong) has become completely unplayable. The screen >> update is very jerky. >> In earlier builds it was smooth. >> Something to do with the X-server changes for Etoys? >> > > No X changes were made to the joyride stream, except the X corruption > fixes by dsd -- but they shouldn't slow down X refresh. dsd, > comments? > Something changed. When looking with top (logged in with ssh on an other computer) I see that when running Bounce the cpu is at 100%, with 60-65% on X (!!!) and only 30-35% on Bounce.hi It seems something is hogging X. This is on joyride-2379 Under 8.1 the X consumption is far less and Bounce updates smoothly. I also tried Bridge (Daniels physics jam game). On 2379 no sound. On Update 1 Bridge works with sound. Same for Bounce, no sound in 8.2, sound in 8.1. Something with pygame/olpcgame sound ??? Ton van Overbeek ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2380
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2380 Changes in build 2380 from build: 2379 Size delta: 0.00M -olpc-utils 0.84.29.20080820git1d35c4-1.olpc3 +olpc-utils 0.85-1.olpc3 --- Changes for olpc-utils 0.85-1.olpc3 from 0.84.29.20080820git1d35c4-1.olpc3 --- + Add registration utility -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] OT: Anybody worked with robot and OLPC
Anybody know this project ? http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSimkin Seen the videos. Is a robot. 2008/9/2, Brian Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Photos of a group "Learn 2 teach, teach 2 learn" that seems to have > worked with a robot and XO: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/connors934/2799061287/in/set-72157606960529196/ > > Found via tag "olpc" on flickr > http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/olpc/ > > Cheers, and good luck Carlos! > Brian > > On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:48 AM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 19:01 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> maybe this can be of interest, >>> >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Robots >>> >>> this is planned with open hardware. >>> >>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Hardware. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Carlos mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> Hello Friends. >>> >>> Someone made a robot using only the OLPC. There is a project >>> to adapt to the OLPC iRobot of microsoft. >>> >>> I am going to bring the artificial intelligence. The teacher >>> will use the robotic irobor and microsoft for the course. I >>> wonder if you could use an OLPC to make a robot and program >>> intelligent agents. The idea is a purely academic post so that >>> in future we will work with cooperative multi robot players. >> >> On a related note... The open embedded[1] guys are making good progress >> on porting Sugar to the open embedded platform. In particular the >> effort is being driven by the desire to run sugar on the Beagleboard[2]. >> >> A project that would make the transition from a turtle cursor, in turtle >> art, to a little robotic turtle zipping around around the room would be >> very cool. >> >> thanks >> dfarning >> >> 1. http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page >> >> 2. http://beagleboard.org/ >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> > ___ > Sugar mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar > -- http://unimauro.blogspot.com/ Creemos en el amor de los Seres Humanos Carlos Mauro Cárdenas Fernández 4582877 980525716 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2379
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2379 Changes in build 2379 from build: 2378 Size delta: 0.00M -gnash-plugin 0.8.3-1.olpc3 +gnash-plugin 0.8.3-1.olpc3.2 -gnash 0.8.3-1.olpc3 +gnash 0.8.3-1.olpc3.2 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2378
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2378 Changes in build 2378 from build: 2375 Size delta: 0.00M -sugar-update-control 0.9-1 +sugar-update-control 0.10-1 -rainbow 0.7.19-1.fc9 +rainbow 0.7.20-1.fc9 -kernel 2.6.25-20080829.1.olpc.278a61522038c37 +kernel 2.6.25-20080902.1.olpc.f0743d79f2cd3a1 -xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.4.99.906-2.olpc3.2 +xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.4.99.906-2.olpc3.3 -xorg-x11-server-common 1.4.99.906-2.olpc3.2 +xorg-x11-server-common 1.4.99.906-2.olpc3.3 --- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.10-1 from 0.9-1 --- + Trac #8149: don't let malformed activity bundles kill the updater. + Allow groups to provide newer versions of the activities then exist -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Faster build with XFCE
2008/8/30 BlistovMHz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can we turn faster back on with XFCE? > I'm spending more time installing/configuring XFCE under joyride, than I am > doing any real development. > I'm working on power management, specifically with regards to dynamic idle > suspend times based on user input vs WOL events. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XFCE_and_Sugar You are encouraged to further document your work on that page, or on the main http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XFCE page; some of these changes are likely to go 'upstream' into the main build in the 9.1 timeframe, to make it easier for people to install a well-functioning XFCE if they choose. cjb works on idle suspend in the main build; you might want to work with him as well. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New update.1 build 712
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/olpc/streams/update.1/build712 Changes in build 712 from build: 711 Size delta: 0.00M -libX11 1.1.3-3.git20071123.olpc2 +libX11 1.1.3-4.git20071123.olpc2 -olpc-utils 0.74-2.olpc2 +olpc-utils 0.74-3.olpc2 -xkeyboard-config 1.1-20.20071130cvs.olpc2 +xkeyboard-config 1.1-21.20071130cvs.olpc2 --- Changes for libX11 1.1.3-4.git20071123.olpc2 from 1.1.3-3.git20071123.olpc2 --- + Backport Amharic Compose table fixes from F-9 branch --- Changes for olpc-utils 0.74-3.olpc2 from 0.74-2.olpc2 --- + Backport conditional loading of XIM GTK Input Module (trac #7818) --- Changes for xkeyboard-config 1.1-21.20071130cvs.olpc2 from 1.1-20.20071130cvs.olpc2 --- + xkeyboard-config-olpc-et_fix_compose.patch: Fixes for Amharic compose sequences + xkeyboard-config-olpc-group.patch: Add a olpc section to symbols/group -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/update.1-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: How to get packages on the 8.2 branch?
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 3:52 PM, C. Scott Ananian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> What do we need to do to get packages on the stable 8.2 branch? >> >> That's a good question. I assume we use the process we used for 8.1, >> which is that you create a trac bug naming the exact package you want >> and the reason for its inclusion, and assign it to ApprovalForUpdate. >> When Michael et al approve it, they assign it to me to pull into the >> stable repository. (This is documented on the wiki somewhere, but my >> internet access is poor at the moment. Maybe Michael can help.) > > Sounds good. Marco found it for me: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Update.1_process But in our release meeting today on IRC, we've come up with a slightly different process: there is a new 'approve for release' entry in the "Action Needed" field in trac. Assign your bug to "approve for release" (and milestone to 8.2.0) and the release manager (Michael, for 8.2) will look at your bug, probably make you justify its inclusion or be more specific about what package you want pulled, and then assign "Action Needed" to "add to build". I'll do a trac search for bugs assigned to "add to build" and milestone "8.2.0" before I make a stable build. Michael promised to write this up on the wiki and send a proper email later today, including details on what, exactly, will "satisfy him" enough to move your bug to "add to build". --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Problems using pilgrim
2008/8/30 Niklaus Giger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi > > I am a member of olpc-ch which is promoting OLPC in Switzerland. > See also http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Ngiger. As I had > to customize manually 10 OLPCs to use German/Switzerland as language > for a presentation of OLPC to more than 100 children in Switzerland > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-ch/2008-August/000153.html > > I tried to find a better solution, especially that I would like to be able to > update a bunch of OLPC to customized bundle of activities. > > Therefore I tried to follow the instructions given in > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Pilgrim and in > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Building_custom_images > After cloning the git repo to /home/src/olpc/pilgrim and patching the sources > as in the attached diff. I executed the following command in > /home/src/olpc/pilgrim > sudo ./pilgrim-autobuild --config-dir . --stream olpc-development --dest-dir . > > I got the following errors; >> * Building stream from >> /home/src/olpc/pilgrim/./streams.d/olpc-development.stream git commit hash >> for this build >> commit 7b261d7289d1b2cebbd4d809e1c948dce2773c3b >> .: 1: olpc-branch.conf: not found >> * Product name is "XO-1 Operating System" (xo-1) >> * Vendor is "One Laptop Per Child Association, Inc." (olpc) >> * Error: PILGRIM_STREAM_NAME not set in stream definition file > I am using a bash shell version 3.2.39 on a Debian testing/unstable x86 box. > > Any help is appreciated as I am a little confused, about the meaning of the > variables in streams.d/olpc-branch.conf. (I volunteer to improve the > wiki page on laptop.org based on the answer.) You should probably be using the 'master' branch in git, not the joyride one. The joyride branch has customizations specific to how we do our autobuilding, which seems to be what is confusing you. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New joyride build 2375
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2375 Changes in build 2375 from build: 2373 Size delta: 0.00M -pygtk2 2.12.1-7.olpc3 +pygtk2 2.12.1-6.olpc3.1 -pygtk2-libglade 2.12.1-7.olpc3 +pygtk2-libglade 2.12.1-6.olpc3.1 -- This mail was automatically generated See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride-pkgs.html for aggregate logs See http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/announcer/joyride_vs_update1.html for a comparison ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] OT: Anybody worked with robot and OLPC
Photos of a group "Learn 2 teach, teach 2 learn" that seems to have worked with a robot and XO: http://www.flickr.com/photos/connors934/2799061287/in/set-72157606960529196/ Found via tag "olpc" on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/olpc/ Cheers, and good luck Carlos! Brian On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 10:48 AM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 19:01 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: >> Hi >> >> maybe this can be of interest, >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Robots >> >> this is planned with open hardware. >> >> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Hardware. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Carlos mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> Hello Friends. >> >> Someone made a robot using only the OLPC. There is a project >> to adapt to the OLPC iRobot of microsoft. >> >> I am going to bring the artificial intelligence. The teacher >> will use the robotic irobor and microsoft for the course. I >> wonder if you could use an OLPC to make a robot and program >> intelligent agents. The idea is a purely academic post so that >> in future we will work with cooperative multi robot players. > > On a related note... The open embedded[1] guys are making good progress > on porting Sugar to the open embedded platform. In particular the > effort is being driven by the desire to run sugar on the Beagleboard[2]. > > A project that would make the transition from a turtle cursor, in turtle > art, to a little robotic turtle zipping around around the room would be > very cool. > > thanks > dfarning > > 1. http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page > > 2. http://beagleboard.org/ > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Hardware Errors -- any hope?
John Watlington wrote: >> I can scp 156 MB to the local machine no problem. >> >> I figure that the problem lies in the USB controller. Any ideas? > > This sounds more like a problem with the USB key, not the motherboard. > If the controller were having trouble transferring data, it wouldn't be so > consistent about making it to 29 MB with no error. I'll 2nd that. "Use a different USB disk" has solved pretty much all of these type reports. Run an MD5 test on your file on the USB disk and see if it matches your source material. Sometimes a reformat of the disk fixes but I've had 1 or 2 that I just had to throw away. -- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> One Laptop Per Child ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Hardware Errors -- any hope?
On Sep 2, 2008, at 8:03 AM, Bryan Berry wrote: > I have what appear to be two hardware errors and I would like to > know if > there is any hope of fixing them short of swapping out the > motherboards. > > Machine #1 Possible bad USB controller > > On this machine, I can't copy a file larger than 29 MB from a USB > stick > to the SSD. The machine completely hangs when I move more than 29 MB. > Test-all from the firmware shows no errors. > > I can scp 156 MB to the local machine no problem. > > I figure that the problem lies in the USB controller. Any ideas? This sounds more like a problem with the USB key, not the motherboard. If the controller were having trouble transferring data, it wouldn't be so consistent about making it to 29 MB with no error. > Machine #2 Bad Nand-flash > > The machine won't boot. OFW scans for boot disk and finds nothing. The > boot device is set to \boot\olpc.fth > > Copy-nand returns an error the Nand Flash can't be opened. > > Firmware test-all: > Testing pci/nandflash > Self test failed Return code -1 > > This machine was out in the field for about 4 months. I am really > surprised that the nand flash has failed. We have seen a small number of units showing this problem. I would love to get the motherboard for failure analysis... > > -- > Bryan W. Berry > Systems Engineer > OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org > > ___ > Devel mailing list > Devel@lists.laptop.org > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: OFW vs. proprietary BIOS
On 29/08/08 14:07 -1000, Mitch Bradley wrote: > Edward Cherlin wrote. > > I also want to see Open Firmware replace proprietary BIOSes everywhere. > > I'd like that too, but it won't happen. The market forces that drive > the computer business still favor proprietary thinking, notwithstanding > the many FOSS arguments to the contrary. Intel calls the shots by > controlling a big percentage of the silicon designs, and Intel is > pushing UEFI, partially because it allows them to keep their > chipset-dependent startup code proprietary. The board manufacturers do > what the dominant silicon vendor allows them to do. This seems like an ideal time to point out that the coreboot (LinuxBIOS) team proudly counts OFW as a payload (though it sometimes lags because you can count the number of us who understand Forth on one hand and have three fingers left over). Coreboot is growing daily (in fact, Via just announced coreboot support for a number of its processors and motherboards. Of course, AMD is also in the party; supporting code for Geode LX, Athlon, Opteron, and Barcelona processors). I realize that the OP was talking about a Forth only stack, but at least coreboot can get you a little bit further along and still give you that (ok) prompt that makes all the ladies swoon. And maybe some day, we can have a complete Forth stack supporting the AMD fam10 processors (I for one would like to see fam10 memory initialization in Forth). If you want to help, check out: http://www.coreboot.org/Buildrom And help us work through some of the bugs in the OFW payload. Jordan ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [sugar] OT: Anybody worked with robot and OLPC
On Mon, 2008-09-01 at 19:01 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: > Hi > > maybe this can be of interest, > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Peripherals/Robots > > this is planned with open hardware. > > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Open_Hardware. > > > > On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Carlos mauro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Hello Friends. > > Someone made a robot using only the OLPC. There is a project > to adapt to the OLPC iRobot of microsoft. > > I am going to bring the artificial intelligence. The teacher > will use the robotic irobor and microsoft for the course. I > wonder if you could use an OLPC to make a robot and program > intelligent agents. The idea is a purely academic post so that > in future we will work with cooperative multi robot players. On a related note... The open embedded[1] guys are making good progress on porting Sugar to the open embedded platform. In particular the effort is being driven by the desire to run sugar on the Beagleboard[2]. A project that would make the transition from a turtle cursor, in turtle art, to a little robotic turtle zipping around around the room would be very cool. thanks dfarning 1. http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Main_Page 2. http://beagleboard.org/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Hardware Errors -- any hope?
I have what appear to be two hardware errors and I would like to know if there is any hope of fixing them short of swapping out the motherboards. Machine #1 Possible bad USB controller On this machine, I can't copy a file larger than 29 MB from a USB stick to the SSD. The machine completely hangs when I move more than 29 MB. Test-all from the firmware shows no errors. I can scp 156 MB to the local machine no problem. I figure that the problem lies in the USB controller. Any ideas? Machine #2 Bad Nand-flash The machine won't boot. OFW scans for boot disk and finds nothing. The boot device is set to \boot\olpc.fth Copy-nand returns an error the Nand Flash can't be opened. Firmware test-all: Testing pci/nandflash Self test failed Return code -1 This machine was out in the field for about 4 months. I am really surprised that the nand flash has failed. -- Bryan W. Berry Systems Engineer OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
