Re: [IAEP] OLPC France CodeCamp in Paris

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:18 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> Great!
>
> I can handle the translation between the spanish teachers and the french
> developers if the need arises.
>
> Podré apoyar las comunicaciones entre los profesores de Uruguay, Panama y Peru
> por una parte, y los desarroladores en Paris, por si alguien necesita.

Wow, this is getting interesting ;)

Thanks,

Tomeu

> Bests, saludos
>
>
> Samy
>
>
> Quoting Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Hi Lionel and all OLPC France,
>>
>> excuse me if this comes too late or isn't to the point, but would like
>> to propose to hack on a mind mapping activity during the CodeCamp in
>> Paris.
>>
>> I think this project has the appeal of being in direct connection to
>> the needs in the field. Teachers from Uruguay, Peru and Panama have
>> asked for such a tool, and have been exploring alternatives that may
>> not be the best: drawing in Paint, using the connectors in Etoys,
>> executing a java app (CMaps) inside the X Activity or using web apps.
>>
>> Happens that a pygtk application for mind mapping already exists and
>> its architecture makes for an easy port to sugar. It's called
>> Labyrinth [0] and was proposed more than one year ago by Jim Gettys
>> [1] though no resources were allocated. Recently, teachers in the
>> olpc-sur mailing lists asked again for it [2] and I gave a quick (2
>> hours) try to sugarize it with some success [3].
>>
>> In [3] you can find links to the activity bundle, a screenshot and a
>> patch to the code in the svn repository.
>>
>> [0] http://www.gnome.org/~dscorgie/labyrinth.html
>> [1] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4577
>> [2] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2008-November/001168.html
>> [3] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2008-November/001173.html
>>
>> My proposal is for the CodeCamp participants to divide in pairs and
>> each pair to choose one feature to add or bug to fix. At the end of
>> the session, everybody would integrate all the changes and produce a
>> single bundle.
>>
>> Most of the functionality is already in the original pygtk app, it's
>> "just" a matter of exposing that functionality through the Sugar UI.
>>
>> I will try to be in #sugar at FreeNode during the CodeCamp to answer
>> questions.
>>
>> After the CodeCamp, we could send the bundle to teachers in olpc-sur
>> and ask them to try it and give feedback. Also, at some point whoever
>> is interested in following up could contact the authors of Labyrinth
>> and see the best way to upstream the changes.
>>
>> What do you say, looks like a challenge?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tomeu
>>
>> 2008/11/1 LASKE, Lionel (C2S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > OLPC France is proud to announce its OLPC CodeCamp in Paris on November
>> > 15th.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Five workshops are planned:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > · Sugar: development and experimentation on Sugar/python,
>> >
>> > · School Server: setting up and test of school server on multiple
>> > platform (standard PC, Booba server, CherryPal, …),
>> >
>> > · Mono: development of new activities using Mono,
>> >
>> > · Pedagogic usage: Feedbacks from Haïti, Ethiopia and Palestine
>> > deployment. Brainstorming with French teachers to find usage and class
>> > activity for the XO.
>> >
>> > · French localization: French translators will work all the days to
>> > translate in French, sugar, activities and FLOSS manual.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you're interested to meet the French OLPC community and to have a nice
>> > trip to Paris: you're welcome !
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > More information on:
>> >
>> http://olpc-france.org/wiki/index.php?title=OLPC_France_CodeCamp_15_november
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards from France.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Lionel Laské
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Sugar architecture diagram (was Re: OLPC France CodeCamp in Paris)

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
2008/11/1 LASKE, Lionel (C2S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi all,
>
> OLPC France is proud to announce its OLPC CodeCamp in Paris on November
> 15th.
>
> Five workshops are planned:
>
> · Sugar: development and experimentation on Sugar/python,

Hi, perhaps may help this diagram I quickly sketched (see in a
fixed-width font):

 ---
|  | || |
|  | Non-python  |   Sugar shell  |   Python|
|  |   Sugar | (Desktop window,   |Sugar|
|  | Activities  |  panel,|  Activities |
|   Regular|  (Etoys,| journal)   | |
|  X   |  Simcity,   || |
| Apps |Mono |--|
|  | activities, |Sugar toolkit (python-only)   |
|  |etc.)|  |
|  ||
|  |DataStore |  Presence   |
|  | service  |  service|
 ---
|Matchbox window manager|
|   (considering switching to Metacity for improved compatibility)  |
 ---
|   |
|GNOME-ish Linux desktop|
|X11, HAL, D-Bus, NetworkManager, GConf, Telepathy, etc |
|   |
 ---


Regards,

Tomeu

> · School Server: setting up and test of school server on multiple
> platform (standard PC, Booba server, CherryPal, …),
>
> · Mono: development of new activities using Mono,
>
> · Pedagogic usage: Feedbacks from Haïti, Ethiopia and Palestine
> deployment. Brainstorming with French teachers to find usage and class
> activity for the XO.
>
> · French localization: French translators will work all the days to
> translate in French, sugar, activities and FLOSS manual.
>
>
>
> If you're interested to meet the French OLPC community and to have a nice
> trip to Paris: you're welcome !
>
>
>
> More information on:
> http://olpc-france.org/wiki/index.php?title=OLPC_France_CodeCamp_15_november
>
>
>
> Best regards from France.
>
>
>
> Lionel Laské
>
>
>
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Re: New joyride build 2544

2008-11-15 Thread Daniel Drake
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Peter Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another query, what is the reason in a number of packages to drop the
> gtk-docs option from some packages? I can't see the difference in
> files between packages, just wondering what the reasons are?

You should be more specific: which package and version are you talking about?
If there are no changes to dependencies or installed files by the
gtk-doc change, then it sounds like that is just unintentional delta
from Fedora RPM and not the actual reason for forking.

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dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi all,

Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought
that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet
somewhere in Cambridge for dinner.

So, what about meeting for having some food and drinks somewhere not
far from Davis Square?

My plane is scheduled to arrive at 21.45, so I would go directly to
wherever people choose.

Regards,

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Sugarizing Labyrinth (was Re: OLPC France CodeCamp in Paris)

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi, have created a git repo in gitorious that could be used as an
starting point:

http://gitorious.org/projects/labyrinth-sugar

We should notify the Labyrinth authors of this effort at some (early) point.

Regards,

Tomeu

On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Lionel and all OLPC France,
>
> excuse me if this comes too late or isn't to the point, but would like
> to propose to hack on a mind mapping activity during the CodeCamp in
> Paris.
>
> I think this project has the appeal of being in direct connection to
> the needs in the field. Teachers from Uruguay, Peru and Panama have
> asked for such a tool, and have been exploring alternatives that may
> not be the best: drawing in Paint, using the connectors in Etoys,
> executing a java app (CMaps) inside the X Activity or using web apps.
>
> Happens that a pygtk application for mind mapping already exists and
> its architecture makes for an easy port to sugar. It's called
> Labyrinth [0] and was proposed more than one year ago by Jim Gettys
> [1] though no resources were allocated. Recently, teachers in the
> olpc-sur mailing lists asked again for it [2] and I gave a quick (2
> hours) try to sugarize it with some success [3].
>
> In [3] you can find links to the activity bundle, a screenshot and a
> patch to the code in the svn repository.
>
> [0] http://www.gnome.org/~dscorgie/labyrinth.html
> [1] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4577
> [2] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2008-November/001168.html
> [3] http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/olpc-sur/2008-November/001173.html
>
> My proposal is for the CodeCamp participants to divide in pairs and
> each pair to choose one feature to add or bug to fix. At the end of
> the session, everybody would integrate all the changes and produce a
> single bundle.
>
> Most of the functionality is already in the original pygtk app, it's
> "just" a matter of exposing that functionality through the Sugar UI.
>
> I will try to be in #sugar at FreeNode during the CodeCamp to answer 
> questions.
>
> After the CodeCamp, we could send the bundle to teachers in olpc-sur
> and ask them to try it and give feedback. Also, at some point whoever
> is interested in following up could contact the authors of Labyrinth
> and see the best way to upstream the changes.
>
> What do you say, looks like a challenge?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
>
> 2008/11/1 LASKE, Lionel (C2S) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> OLPC France is proud to announce its OLPC CodeCamp in Paris on November
>> 15th.
>>
>>
>>
>> Five workshops are planned:
>>
>>
>>
>> · Sugar: development and experimentation on Sugar/python,
>>
>> · School Server: setting up and test of school server on multiple
>> platform (standard PC, Booba server, CherryPal, …),
>>
>> · Mono: development of new activities using Mono,
>>
>> · Pedagogic usage: Feedbacks from Haïti, Ethiopia and Palestine
>> deployment. Brainstorming with French teachers to find usage and class
>> activity for the XO.
>>
>> · French localization: French translators will work all the days to
>> translate in French, sugar, activities and FLOSS manual.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you're interested to meet the French OLPC community and to have a nice
>> trip to Paris: you're welcome !
>>
>>
>>
>> More information on:
>> http://olpc-france.org/wiki/index.php?title=OLPC_France_CodeCamp_15_november
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards from France.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lionel Laské
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Techteam] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought
> that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet
> somewhere in Cambridge for dinner.
>
> So, what about meeting for having some food and drinks somewhere not
> far from Davis Square?
>
> My plane is scheduled to arrive at 21.45, so I would go directly to
> wherever people choose.

I'm arriving at 20.50.

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Re: [sugar] [IAEP] OLPC France CodeCamp in Paris

2008-11-15 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:18 AM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> Great!
>
> I can handle the translation between the spanish teachers and the french
> developers if the need arises.
>
> Podré apoyar las comunicaciones entre los profesores de Uruguay, Panama y Peru
> por una parte, y los desarroladores en Paris, por si alguien necesita.
>
> Bests, saludos
>
Great work Samy!

Your project embodies what I hope is becoming the development for
Sugar Labs.  Bringing together smart and passionate people to work on
interesting and compelling problems.

thanks
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Re: just curious...

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Carlos Nazareno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How come the terminal activity takes so long to load?
>
> On almost any system/OS it's near instantaneous, even back then with
> Pentium 166's.

The current python API for activities is a kind of "load all or
nothing", and the terminal activity happens to use it.

There are plans to change this.

Regards,

Tomeu
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Re: [Techteam] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread Holt
Plz attend the 7PM Sunday party SJ organized!  In Harvard Square, at 33 
Dunster St in Cambridge, full details here:

   http://blog.laptop.org/2008/11/14/party-this-sunday-in-harvard-square/
   http://johnharvards.com

Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Hi all,

Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought
that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet
somewhere in Cambridge for dinner.

So, what about meeting for having some food and drinks somewhere not
far from Davis Square?

My plane is scheduled to arrive at 21.45, so I would go directly to
wherever people choose.



I'm arriving at 20.50.

Marco
  
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Re: [sugar] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought
> that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet
> somewhere in Cambridge for dinner.
>
> So, what about meeting for having some food and drinks somewhere not
> far from Davis Square?
>
> My plane is scheduled to arrive at 21.45, so I would go directly to
> wherever people choose.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu

Sounds good.
david
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Re: [sugar] Wrapping Sugar activities for other desktops

2008-11-15 Thread Joel Stanley
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 09:59, Martin Langhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> that's the kind of thing I was thinking of. "The simplest thing that
> could possibly work".

Does anyone have this on their list for SugarCamp?

I've had some interest from a teacher in running Pippy outside of
Sugar.  I'd like to help out where possible, when I have some free
time (after the 22nd).

Cheers,

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Fusion and LiveCD

2008-11-15 Thread Erich Neuwirth
I am trying to run OLPC on a Mac.
I tried converting the current image for QEMU, but then I get
the 3dnow error and it wont run.

So I downloaded the live cd image, and it almost works.
The Speak activity works, so I know sound works,
but as soon as I start TamTam mini, sound is broken.
After closing TamTam mini, Speak can be started, but there is no sound
output any more.
Only rebooting the VM seems to help.

I can browse, so the network (NAT in VMWare) is working,
but I do not see the neighborhood and I cannot do shared activities.

Is there a way of running an emulated XO on a Mac with all the
activities functioning?



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Faculty of Computer Science
Computer Supported Didactics Working Group
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Re: [Techteam] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Plz attend the 7PM Sunday party SJ organized!  In Harvard Square, at 33
> Dunster St in Cambridge, full details here:
> http://blog.laptop.org/2008/11/14/party-this-sunday-in-harvard-square/
> http://johnharvards.com

Sound good to me. Other opinions?

Tomeu

> Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought
> that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet
> somewhere in Cambridge for dinner.
>
> So, what about meeting for having some food and drinks somewhere not
> far from Davis Square?
>
> My plane is scheduled to arrive at 21.45, so I would go directly to
> wherever people choose.
>
>
> I'm arriving at 20.50.
>
> Marco
>
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Re: XO full

2008-11-15 Thread Joshua Minor

On Nov 12, 2008, at 11:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Joshua Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> My daughter's XO is full, but mine has over 400 GB free.  Both  
>> laptops
>> are running 767.  I ran 'du -sk|sort -n' in various places starting
>> at / and as far as I can tell the difference is that her /versions/
>> pristine is twice as large as mine (roughly 1GB instead of 500MB).
>> How can I free up some space for her?
>
> /versions/pristine is filled with hardlinks, so I'd take the results
> of du -sk with a huge grain of salt.
>
> I would expect that /home/olpc/.sugar would be the big size difference
> between the two.
>
> Can you post the results of 'ls /versions/pristine'?
>  --scott

Hers (full):
0c3deafeab44a959a0e2e18c5c2092e9
60ab7dd13168405e4f9207c48a452a5a

Mine (not full):
5cb011fd465a5793ce12df8064f6790d
60ab7dd13168405e4f9207c48a452a5a

Her /home/olpc/ is actually smaller than mine (350MB vs 435MB)

My theory is this: I have run olpc-update more often on my machine, so  
there are fewer differences between the active OS and the fallback  
one.  On hers, for instance, the fallback OS still has /usr/share/ 
activities/ with a full set of G1G1 2007 activities while mine doesn't.

If my theory is correct, then maybe she can run olpc-update to go back  
to something just prior to 767 and then forward to 767 again... does  
olpc-update let you go backwards?

-josh

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Re: XO full

2008-11-15 Thread pgf
joshua wrote:
 > 
 > On Nov 12, 2008, at 11:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 > 
 > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Joshua Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > >> My daughter's XO is full, but mine has over 400 GB free.  Both  
 > >> laptops
 > >> are running 767.  I ran 'du -sk|sort -n' in various places starting
 > >> at / and as far as I can tell the difference is that her /versions/
 > >> pristine is twice as large as mine (roughly 1GB instead of 500MB).
 > >> How can I free up some space for her?
 > >
 > > /versions/pristine is filled with hardlinks, so I'd take the results
 > > of du -sk with a huge grain of salt.
 > >
 > > I would expect that /home/olpc/.sugar would be the big size difference
 > > between the two.
 > >
 > > Can you post the results of 'ls /versions/pristine'?
 > >  --scott
 > 
 > Hers (full):
 > 0c3deafeab44a959a0e2e18c5c2092e9
 > 60ab7dd13168405e4f9207c48a452a5a
 > 
 > Mine (not full):
 > 5cb011fd465a5793ce12df8064f6790d
 > 60ab7dd13168405e4f9207c48a452a5a
 > 
 > Her /home/olpc/ is actually smaller than mine (350MB vs 435MB)
 > 
 > My theory is this: I have run olpc-update more often on my machine, so  
 > there are fewer differences between the active OS and the fallback  
 > one.  On hers, for instance, the fallback OS still has /usr/share/ 
 > activities/ with a full set of G1G1 2007 activities while mine doesn't.
 > 
 > If my theory is correct, then maybe she can run olpc-update to go back  
 > to something just prior to 767 and then forward to 767 again... does  
 > olpc-update let you go backwards?

yes.  and that might work fine.

i assume she also has a full complement of activities under
/home/olpc/Activities.  if she doesn't anticipate going back to
the fallback, then free free to do an rm -rf of the
usr/share/Activities under her fallback tree.  they're not needed
to run the fallback OS, and she's not using them now.  if you're
worried, you could remove everything but Terminal.  (and maybe
Journal, if that's in there, but i don't think it is.  i can't
remember.)

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Re: [Localization] [Proposal] .xot bundles, for translations

2008-11-15 Thread Walter Bender
It doesn't sound too invasive of a change and yet it is in keeping
with the basic update system and may evolve into a simpler framework
for end users to contribute translations as well.

-walter

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> One of the things in my TODO for 9.1 is to have a better mechanism for
> language packs[1] in the XO. The primary goal of language packs is to
> decouple the process of translations from the process of OS release as
> much as possible, since as our software gets larger and more
> complicated, it will become more and more difficult for translators to
> keep up with the pace of development.
> Our current language pack mechanism handles the decoupling part, but
> two of its significant shortcomings include
>
> a) Overwriting of existing translation files (it may overwrite the
> original .mo file in certain cases)
> b) Difficulty for deployments (deployments have to manual start each
> XO, and run the pack installer script from a console)
> c) No auto update mechanism
>
> I have been thinking of having a separate place in the filesystem for
> _new_ translations, and using RPM to manage the installation and
> upgradation of the new translations.
> However, Scott suggested in a recent email conversation that deploying
> new translations through a bundle like format (used for activities and
> content right now) may make more sense as users themselves can use the
> Sugar control panel to download updated translations (as currently
> done with activities). I think this may be a better option than RPMs
> as
>
> a) It makes the new translations user modifiable (we can have a
> translate activity later on which would let users modify the
> translations)
> b) It would be pretty trivial to add support for a new .xot format in
> the customization key mechanism (just unzip them in /home/olpc)
>
> However, this would need XO specific changes in glibc, python, etoys
> and scratch (I think). I already have patches for glibc and python
> (based on patches from Ubuntu, which already uses a similar system,
> where they generate language packs out of their launchpad/rosetta
> based translations)
>
> Am I missing something out here ? If there are no problems with this
> proposal, I would like to start testing such a system in Joyride (with
> at least glibc and python patched) by the end of the month.
>
> Thanks,
> Sayamindu
>
>
> [1]http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Localization/LanguagePacks
> --
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> [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]
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Project Hosting Request: DObject

2008-11-15 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

1. Project name : DObject
2. Existing website, if any
:http://download.laptop.org/content/conf/20080403-olpc-mini-conf/Collaboration/
3. One-line description :  Active data structures for automatic
coherent collaboration.
4. Longer description   : DObject is a collection of data structures and
: other code to allow the easy creation of
Activities
: in Python that fully support versioning,
undo, synchronous collaboration,
: and asynchronous collaboration.

5. URLs of similar projects :
http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Main_Page, distantly.

6. Committer list

Ben Schwartz (username bemasc on dev.laptop.org)

7. Preferred development model

   [X] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the
   project's git tree.

8. Set up a project mailing list:

   [X] No

9. Commit notifications

   [X] No commit notifications, please

10. Shell accounts:  None needed.

11. Translation
   [X] Set up the laptop.org Pootle server to allow translation commits
to be made

12. Notes/comments:
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Re: [sugar] [IAEP] Tentative talk schedule: Nov 19

2008-11-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 11:29 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hope for a chance to see a server in action, and it would be tops if I
> could see a server being set up from scratch.  That might even justify I
> take a box with me...
> In a Montessori way, I learn best when things happen as I do them.

Cool -- no prob to do an install demo, we can use hw from 1cc for that.

cheers.



m
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Re: [Techteam] dinner around cambridge on sunday

2008-11-15 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
Erik's friend Clark said to invite any OLPC folk to stop by Chipotle in
Harvard Square before the party.

--HH.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Plz attend the 7PM Sunday party SJ organized!  In Harvard Square, at 33
> > Dunster St in Cambridge, full details here:
> >
> http://blog.laptop.org/2008/11/14/party-this-sunday-in-harvard-square/
> > http://johnharvards.com
>
> Sound good to me. Other opinions?
>
> Tomeu
>
> > Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Marco and me compared our schedules for the next week trip and thought
> > that, as we arrive a bit late on Sunday, may be a good idea to meet
> > somewhere in Cambridge for dinner.
> >
> > So, what about meeting for having some food and drinks somewhere not
> > far from Davis Square?
> >
> > My plane is scheduled to arrive at 21.45, so I would go directly to
> > wherever people choose.
> >
> >
> > I'm arriving at 20.50.
> >
> > Marco
> >
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Re: debxo 0.3 release

2008-11-15 Thread Luke Faraone


Andres Salomon-4 wrote:
> 
>  - A new 'base' desktop has been added.  This is a minimal install,
> with no graphics or X at all.  It's good for rescue situations, or
> where you have a local package mirror and don't want to waste bandwidth
> downloading a graphical desktop image.
> 

Something strange when installing/removing packages under the base
installation:
http://pastebin.ca/1254906

This warning/error also occured when I was using the "olpc-update debian"
installation.

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Re: debxo 0.3 release

2008-11-15 Thread pgf
luke wrote:
 > 
 > 
 > Andres Salomon-4 wrote:
 > > 
 > >  - A new 'base' desktop has been added.  This is a minimal install,
 > > with no graphics or X at all.  It's good for rescue situations, or
 > > where you have a local package mirror and don't want to waste bandwidth
 > > downloading a graphical desktop image.
 > > 
 > 
 > Something strange when installing/removing packages under the base
 > installation:
 > http://pastebin.ca/1254906
 > 
 > This warning/error also occured when I was using the "olpc-update debian"
 > installation.

fwiw, i've used the base desktop and not seen these locale errors.

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Re: XO full

2008-11-15 Thread Joshua Minor
On Nov 15, 2008, at 10:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> joshua wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2008, at 11:33 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Joshua Minor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 My daughter's XO is full, but mine has over 400 GB free.  Both
 laptops
 are running 767.  I ran 'du -sk|sort -n' in various places starting
 at / and as far as I can tell the difference is that her /versions/
 pristine is twice as large as mine (roughly 1GB instead of 500MB).
 How can I free up some space for her?
>>>
>>> /versions/pristine is filled with hardlinks, so I'd take the results
>>> of du -sk with a huge grain of salt.
>>>
>>> I would expect that /home/olpc/.sugar would be the big size  
>>> difference
>>> between the two.
>>>
>>> Can you post the results of 'ls /versions/pristine'?
>>> --scott
>>
>> Hers (full):
>> 0c3deafeab44a959a0e2e18c5c2092e9
>> 60ab7dd13168405e4f9207c48a452a5a
>>
>> Mine (not full):
>> 5cb011fd465a5793ce12df8064f6790d
>> 60ab7dd13168405e4f9207c48a452a5a
>>
>> Her /home/olpc/ is actually smaller than mine (350MB vs 435MB)
>>
>> My theory is this: I have run olpc-update more often on my machine,  
>> so
>> there are fewer differences between the active OS and the fallback
>> one.  On hers, for instance, the fallback OS still has /usr/share/
>> activities/ with a full set of G1G1 2007 activities while mine  
>> doesn't.
>>
>> If my theory is correct, then maybe she can run olpc-update to go  
>> back
>> to something just prior to 767 and then forward to 767 again... does
>> olpc-update let you go backwards?
>
> yes.  and that might work fine.
>
> i assume she also has a full complement of activities under
> /home/olpc/Activities.  if she doesn't anticipate going back to
> the fallback, then free free to do an rm -rf of the
> usr/share/Activities under her fallback tree.  they're not needed
> to run the fallback OS, and she's not using them now.  if you're
> worried, you could remove everything but Terminal.  (and maybe
> Journal, if that's in there, but i don't think it is.  i can't
> remember.)
>
> paul

Thanks that worked great.  Yay!

-josh

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