Re: To Gnome or not to Gnome

2010-03-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 13:04, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 03:47 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis wrote:
  You mean the blacked out GTK buttons and corrupt graphics
  in some web pages? We have a temporary workaround for these now!

 No, actually I was referring to an XO-1.5 bug (#10084)

 Ah, it's a different one. Yesterday I closed #7830 and #10076, though
 with a temporary work-around.

 The ultimate fix for all these bugs would have been a complete
 refactoring of the geode driver. Last time I looked at that codebase, it
 was full of magic numbers, with no bounds checking in some cases. We're
 very lucky if it works so well :-)


  Sounds right, but I'm not sure *who* is going to put their
  time into it.

 What about Gnome people. I would guess they will not be indifferent
 to the OLPC/XO. Couldn't they be formally asked for support?
 (I know is upstream but...)

 Do you have good contacts within the Gnome community?

We could talk about this with the GNOME Foundation's board, they have
interest in pushing GNOME in developing countries. But the most they
could do (AFAIK) is motivating contributors to give some attention to
the issues we care about, but not more.

If anybody wants to take ownership of this area, I can give contacts
and introduce them to the board.

Regards,

Tomeu

 I reported only one bug in the Gnome bug tracker, but so far nobody
 replied:

  https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613852

 In this case, we're using current software which is shipped also by
 Fedora 12 and Karmic.

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Fwd: [Sur] XO para ciegos y disminuidos visuales.

2010-03-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi John,

was wondering if you were already aware of this request from the field.

Regards,

Tomeu

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2010/3/25 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com:
 2010/3/25 Walter Alan Mirwald profeespecialwal...@hotmail.com:
 El teclado qwerty de las computadoras o celulares usualmente viene con 3
 teclas marcada para el uso de personas ciegas o con disminución visual, la
 letra F, la letra J, y 5 del teclado numérico. Me parece importante ver la
 posibilidad de modificar el teclado de las XO pues no están marcadas. Eso
 ayudaría  a las personas C y DV ubicarse rápidamente en el teclado.


 F y J tienen protuberancias en el teclado XO. Pero tal vez son
 demasiado sutiles.

Estoy de acuerdo estas marcas son solo ''puntos'' en las XO, en
laptops normales son mas apreciables.



 -walter


 Me interesa conocer mas de los proyectos educativos, desarrollo de softh y
 actividades para sujetos con necesidades educativas especiales Por favor.
 Gracias.



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Backup/Restore UI

2010-03-28 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
I'm a bit confused, is the problem reliable full restore with limited
local space or the DS having the xapian DB open while the copy
happens? Or both?

Thanks,

Tomeu

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 00:51, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 In Paraguay, we started discussing the topic of improving backup and
 restore procedures. Let's compare notes with a wider audience.

 We started from an existing backup/restore procedure written by Daniel
 Drake one year ago. It's meant to be invoked from the Terminal and uses
 a transactional approach:

 1) the technician runs a script to restore the journal from the school
 server into a temporary directory while Sugar is still running;

 2) then, you restart Sugar (by killing the sugar-shell process);

 3) on startup, the olpc-session script notices the temporary directory
    and replaces the datastore with it almost atomically.

 The problem with this approach was that it only works as long as there's
 a enough free space in the filesystem, which is rarely the case with
 laptops that are actually in use. Transactional behavior would be good
 to have, but I don't see how we could implement it reliably. Even an
 rsync in-place would have to be done with --delete-before to ensure it
 works all the time.

 This opens the question of how we stop the datastore from accessing the
 journal and mess it up while we're still updating it. We're currently
 doing it quite a gross way: kill the datastore process before beginning
 the restore, then restart Sugar:

  http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/browser/scripts/os-modifications/diario-restaurar

 We'll thoroughly test this new kludge tomorrow. I'm confident it will
 work, but it's a shame that users need to call tech support in order to
 restore a backup.

 Perhaps it's time to add integrated backup/restore functionality to the
 datastore itself, with a nice UI in the Journal or in the control panel.
 The underlying mechanism could be as simple as the one we're testing
 now, but with proper synchronization with the datastore and no need to
 restart Sugar.

 Shall we go on and write a feature page, targeting 0.90? If it's done as
 a control panel item, it may be sufficiently self-contained to backport
 it all the way back to 0.84.

 For the time being, I might add the backup and restore scripts to
 olpc-utils. Or, better, create a new sugar-utils package for these
 things that are generally useful on any platform.

 Suggestions?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Backup/Restore UI

2010-03-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:14 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 I'm a bit confused, is the problem reliable full restore with limited
 local space or the DS having the xapian DB open while the copy
 happens? Or both?

Both, but somehow we managed to solve them in a quick  dirty way:

 1) our script kills the datastore process before starting the restore.
Then, at the end of the procedure, we restart Sugar.

 2) we restore the journal in place, using the --delete-before option
of rsync in order to free up space in the filesystem beforehand

I've tested this procedure yesterday in a school, and it worked
egregiously with two different laptops. The code is here:

 http://trac.paraguayeduca.org/browser/scripts/os-modifications/diario-restaurar


Now we're just missing a nice GUI for end-users: a control panel icon
or a button in the journal toolbar.

Someone has to file a feature request and discuss it with the Design
team. Would anyone like to get started on this while we're still busy
fixing the few remaining high-priority bugs in Sugar 0.84?

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Re: problems with an XO

2010-03-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Adding Mitch Bradley and olpc-devel to Cc.

On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 21:59 -0400, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote:
 Hello:
 
 I have problems with an XO. I tried to install the latest build on it,
 but had the firmware version q2e18, so I upgraded it to the q2e41
 
 I used the q2e41.rom file.. and at the end of the upgrade i threw an
 error somthing that said Error, SPI Flash ID 0 it didn't enable the
 prompt again, nor any of the buttons (power, check, circle, square,
 etc)
 
 When i rebooted, the machine doesn't start on fimrware.. it just shows
 a black (no backlight) screen
 
 Was there an issue regarding upgrade from q2e18 to q2e41? on the page
 even showed an example of the q2e18 upgrade
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e41
 
 could you guys point me in the right way regarding this problem?

Was that a B1 pre-production unit, perhaps?

If I remember correctly, the current versions of the Open Firmware do
not support those ancient boards any longer. Flashing a B1 may very well
result in a brick :-(

Mitch may know better.

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Re: (fwd) Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

2010-03-28 Thread Paul Fox
yioryos wrote:
  So SLEEP basically drops connections and then the XO-1 fails
  to DIM or BLANK.  Setting SLEEP time _after_ DIM and BLANK has

sounds like something's going wrong for you that isn't going wrong
for me:  dim and blank happen correctly after sleep for me.

  the expected behavior.  In all cases the XO fails to reconnect
  to the preferred network after wakeup from SLEEP.  I settled

i haven't tested networking robustness on os13, so can't speak to
this.

please file tickets for the problems you're seeing, and attach
dmesg output, as well as powerd.trace.  (enable powerd tracing
with sudo powerd-config =trace-on.)

paul


  in DIM=180, BLANK=480, SLEEP=600.  No huge power savings but
  at least the build is usable.

  
  --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:
  
   From: Paul Fox p...@laptop.org
   Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )
   To: Yioryos Asprobounitis mavrot...@yahoo.com
   Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org, fedora-olpc-list 
  fedora-olpc-l...@redhat.com
   Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:26 PM
   yioryos wrote:
 I guess the question is: is os13 usable at this
   stage?
 Should power management be be inactivated in the
   control panel?
 Are there appropriate/recommended powerd.conf
   settings for the XO-1 at this 
 stage?
   
   maybe, i don't know, and i don't know.
   
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Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing - OS13

2010-03-28 Thread Paul Fox
hal wrote:
  
  ber...@codewiz.org said:
   We'll deploy this to ~4000 kids really-soon-now. Bugs reported within 1-2
   weeks have a chance of being fixed in time. 
  
  os115 doesn't include powerd.  Is your plan to ship it that way or do you 
  want help testing suspend/resume?

given the release schedule, i'm not at all surprised that bernies is
sticking with ohmd.

  
  I ran it for a day or two before switching to os13.   I didn't notice any 
  troubles.
  
  os13 includes powerd.  My network gets confused/broken quickly.  It 
  recovers, 
  but that takes a minute.  That's not useful for me.

and indeed, it sounds like the ohmd may be the right choice.  ;-)

paul

  
  The good news is that the keyboard now works after resume so I can poke 
  around.
  
  I don't know if the keyboard/cursor/resume quirk is really fixed.  My cursor 
  just stopped working.  (The keyboard was OK.)
  
  I haven't noticed any troubles when powerd is disabled.
  
  
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Re: problems with an XO

2010-03-28 Thread Rodolfo D. Arce S.
Hello:

Machine SKU26, Serial: SHF8220176E Model XO-1

I can't say it stoped in the middle of the upgrade, it failed after
everything finished.. it was like this.. i got the q2e41.rom file in a sd
card, i ran the command

ok flash sd:\q2e41.rom

checking.. writing.. checking.. and than something else.. and apparently
finished.. cuase i didn't came back until about 15 min later.. (i went to
the grocery store.. haha).. and when i came back.. the screen showed:


Checking
Writing
Error, SPI Flash ID 0
ok - this is the prompt..

But i was not allowed to write anymore.. nor to reboot or anything.. y
unplugged the AC power, but the led remained on.. that's where i figured it
REALLY failed, 'cause if it failed in one of the testings or such, during
firmware installation if it fails it still maintains the old firmware, and
the prompt works.. but that didn't happen in this occasion


I tryed to reboot with the prompt, didn't work, I tryed to turn off using
power button, didn't work, y disconected power (again), didn't work.. so I
removed the battery.. and it powered off.. when i turned on.. nothing..
black screen of Firmware death (bricked).. but it didn't happen during
upgrade.. it happened when upgrade aparently finished


cheers.. R


El 28 de marzo de 2010 13:28, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés
r...@paraguayeduca.orgescribió:

 But I agree with Bernie, question is why it died half way through..

 On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:28 -0300, Raúl Gutiérrez Segalés wrote:
  I pretty much think the laptop has been bricked. And if I recall
  correctly that is an XO-1 (MP: mass production). If the upgrade process
  of the firmware dies in the middle, you are definitively bricked :(
 
  On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 21:59 -0400, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote:
   Hello:
  
   I have problems with an XO. I tried to install the latest build on it,
   but had the firmware version q2e18, so I upgraded it to the q2e41
  
   I used the q2e41.rom file.. and at the end of the upgrade i threw an
   error somthing that said Error, SPI Flash ID 0 it didn't enable the
   prompt again, nor any of the buttons (power, check, circle, square,
   etc)
  
   When i rebooted, the machine doesn't start on fimrware.. it just shows
   a black (no backlight) screen
  
   Was there an issue regarding upgrade from q2e18 to q2e41? on the page
   even showed an example of the q2e18 upgrade
  
   http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e41
  
   could you guys point me in the right way regarding this problem?
  
   cheers.. R
  
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Re: [Sur] XO para ciegos y disminuidos visuales.

2010-03-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
2010/3/28 Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net:
 was wondering if you were already aware of this request from the field.

The wording of the request is a bit confusing, so to clarify, I think
Walter means that we're missing the dots on the keys F J and 5 (in num
keypad).

But actually... they are present, and I can feel them. So it's a
feature request for something we have...



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Backup/Restore UI

2010-03-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:14 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
 I'm a bit confused, is the problem reliable full restore with limited
 local space or the DS having the xapian DB open while the copy
 happens? Or both?

 Both, but somehow we managed to solve them in a quick  dirty way:

Doesn't copy-to-journal skip all the ugly?


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Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing - OS13

2010-03-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
Thanks for explaining about os13 not using the Feb 2010 NetworkManager.

Another question, if I may -- os13 comes with a 2010/03/13 XO-1 kernel
(commit bfcaa33).  Is it ok to install the newer 2010/03/22 XO-1 kernel
(commit 3f93d90) in my os13 system ?

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Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: New F11 XO-1build 115 Paraguay

2010-03-28 Thread Claudia Urrea
:) Good job!!

Claudia

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Martin Langhoff
martin.langh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org
 wrote:
  Our short-term goal is to meet a release criteria of no
  regressions against build 801. Once this is done, we'll re-sync with
  the latest improvements from our upstreams, F11-XO1.5 and F11-XO1.

 Bravo. To Stephen, to all the ParaguayEduca folks pushing for this. To you.

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Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

2010-03-28 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 16:42, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:
 steven m. parrish wrote:
   OS13 is now available for testing.

I just tried it and am encountering a very annoying issue: if I don't
do anything, the screen dims, and everything just freezes this way.
Screen remains dim, keyboard and mouse don't respond.

Is this a known issue? Any idea how I could help debugging it?


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Backup/Restore UI

2010-03-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 20:08 +0200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
  On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 14:14 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
  I'm a bit confused, is the problem reliable full restore with limited
  local space or the DS having the xapian DB open while the copy
  happens? Or both?
 
  Both, but somehow we managed to solve them in a quick  dirty way:
 
 Doesn't copy-to-journal skip all the ugly?

Oh, well, indeed. Though we need to figure out how to glue it to the
rsync back-end.

The easy part is binding rsync to Python: this was already done in
duplicity by wrapping librsync with simple C and Python code which we
could steal.

Then it starts to get hard: the files are probably going to come down
from the xs in some random order. librsync provides a sophisticated
callback interface, but there seems to be also a whole-file interface.

This approach also opens other interesting possibilities such as
restoring individual files or merging the backup with the current
journal contents.

However, it looks like it would take a couple of months of effort to get
something like this done. For the time being, we could keep using the
plain rsync and maybe just add a stop/resume interface to the datastore?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Journal Backup/Restore UI

2010-03-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 21:22 -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 Oh, well, indeed. Though we need to figure out how to glue it to the
 rsync back-end.
 
 The easy part is binding rsync to Python: this was already done in
 duplicity by wrapping librsync with simple C and Python code which we
 could steal.

Wait, I had overlooked this note:

  librsync does not speak the (hairy) application-specific protocol
  used by rsync. They only share an algorithm, not any code.

This rules it out for our usecase, unless we also want to rewrite the xs
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Re: problems with an XO

2010-03-28 Thread James Cameron
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:48:20PM -0400, Rodolfo D. Arce S. wrote:
 Checking
 Writing
 Error, SPI Flash ID 0
 ok - this is the prompt..

This is bad.  Something went wrong while writing to the chip that
contains the firmware.

(If anybody else gets this error during flashing and your laptop is 
still on, don't turn it off, leave it powered on while you try to
contact us for help.)

That it doesn't boot the firmware any longer is consistent with the
error above.  That laptop will need a repair;
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/SPI_FLASH_Recovery

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Re: New release of F11 for the XO-1 is available for testing - OS13

2010-03-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sun, 2010-03-28 at 15:51 -0500, Mikus Grinbergs wrote:
 Another question, if I may -- os13 comes with a 2010/03/13 XO-1 kernel
 (commit bfcaa33).  Is it ok to install the newer 2010/03/22 XO-1 kernel
 (commit 3f93d90) in my os13 system ?

Please try and let me know. I froze on that version because some XO-1
specific bugs had appeared in the following revisions. Those may have
gone by now.

To install a kernel on the XO-1, you need to do some trickery:

  rpm -i kernel-*
  rsync -a /boot/ /versions/running/boot/

This is due to the odd filesystem layout used to implement the alternate
boot scheme (I wonder how many people actually use it and if it's still
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Re: ANNOUNCE: New F11 XO-1build 115 Paraguay

2010-03-28 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 13:44 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis
 mavrot...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I'll go with Mikus on that.
  With at least 3 development streams some qualifier is needed in the naming. 
  eg os115x1/os115x15/os115py
 
 +1 -- and remember to keep it all 8.3 :-)

Done: the next image will be called something like os117py.img


I've always wondered why the XO builds don't have a real name. Everyone
seems to generically refer to them as OS. For some time, I've been
calling it xoos, then I realized I was the only one and gave up.

Analogously, f11-xo1 is hardly pronounceable and f11-xo1-py is even
worse. Where's Steve Jobs when we need him?

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Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 116

2010-03-28 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5
 http://build.laptop.org/10.2.0/os116

 Compressed image size: 678.37mb (+0.01mb since build 115)

 Description of changes in this build:
  * powerd: fix auto-reconnection after an idle-suspend (#10086)
  * pull F11 updates

 Package changes since build 115:

 -bind-libs-9.6.2-1.fc11.i586
 +bind-libs-9.6.2-2.P1.fc11.i586
 -bind-utils-9.6.2-1.fc11.i586
 +bind-utils-9.6.2-2.P1.fc11.i586
 -olpc-powerd-13-1.fc11.i586
 +olpc-powerd-15-1.fc11.i586
 -openssl-0.9.8k-5.fc11.i686
 +openssl-0.9.8m-1.fc11.i686

I finally got my XO-1.5 back from my 9 year old to do some updates and
testing. It was running the final from January so has not been updated
in a while. I updated first the firmware to q3a35.rom and then the OS
to os116.zd

First problem I have run into is that I see a problem with wireless
networks after rebuilding. They showed up for about 30 seconds and
then disappeared. From the lack of yellow lights on the wireless I
believe it quit scanning at that point. I then did a soft reboot and
saw that the network did not seem to come back. I need to troubleshoot
that so any help would be appreciated. [ A complete power cycle
brought back the radio and I was able to reconnect with WPA2 again.
However about 60 seconds later the radio light went off the screen and
networking went away. The dmesg shows a mmc2 dump and lines saying
mmc2: Got data interrupt 0x0010 even though no data operation was
in progress.]


Next problem was touching the power button caused the screen to go
'crazy' for a bit. [As it it were at the wrong sync rate on an old
monitor. I touched the power button again and it went to sleep. Not
sure if that is expected or not.

Do I need to go back to a different firmware?
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Re: (fwd) Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

2010-03-28 Thread Hal Murray

p...@laptop.org said:
 please file tickets for the problems you're seeing, and attach dmesg output,
 as well as powerd.trace.  (enable powerd tracing with sudo powerd-config
 =trace-on.) 

http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10092

If that's not the info you need, let me know and I'll try again.


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unable to share Activities on XO-1.5

2010-03-28 Thread Holt

Many people here in DC tried to share Sugar Activities (during the XO-1.5 
Getting Started Documentation Sprint this weekend), but were unable to proceed, 
and unable to take the required screenshots to document this functionality.  
Below is a sample problem report.  What workarounds might they try?  Thanks!

 We (GH  SU) had access to multiple XO-1.5's for the first time.

 Attempting to upgrade the manual page
 http://laptop.org/7.1.0/gettingstarted/sharing.shtml
 we were (consistently) unable to make this Activity sharing happen.

 Whereas we've both succeeded with the XO-1, several times.

 Testing setup:
2 XO-1.5, both SKU99 (early production units)
 Software:
Build 116
Sugar 0.84.14
Firmware Q3A35
Wireless Firmware 9.70.7.p0

 We tested this with cable and wifi both.

 Chat was never really working on the joining computer.
 Greatest success (like in the picture) was the message that
 the other host connected, but no actual text transmitted...

 Abiword worked but only after 2min of waiting (and only with wifi).

 The invitation mode never worked.

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Re: New XO-1.5 10.2.0 build 116

2010-03-28 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

First problem I have run into is that I see a problem with
wireless networks after rebuilding. They showed up for about 30
seconds and then disappeared.

From http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_1.5_B2#Software_Limitations :

* If you have a B2 without hardware mods, you must disable suspend
  using Control Panel-Power-Automatic power management, else your
  wireless device will disconnect on suspend and not come back until
  the next reboot.

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Re: unable to share Activities on XO-1.5

2010-03-28 Thread James Cameron
G'day Adam,

http://laptop.org/7.1.0/gettingstarted/sharing.shtml is correct as far
as it goes, and is the method I've used to test sharing between two
XO-1.5 running os116.  I didn't experience any difficulty, but the
sharing does depend on the environment.  I've had it working via ad-hoc
Create new wireless network and via access point.  I've no cable
available.

There are several ways it can fail, but the sample problem report
suggests that a slow or lossy network (Abiword in two minutes) was the
main problem.  The usual causes of a slow or lossy network are
radiofrequency interference or other wireless traffic nearby.

I'd like to know if the XO-1 was tested in the same location and at the
same time, and if so whether the XO-1's were configured or had settled
on mesh channel 1.

Further diagnosis of the problem is certainly possible using shell tools
in the Terminal window, but I'm not sure if you want that level of
detail.

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Re: [Server-devel] [Sugar-devel] scalability in the neighborhood view

2010-03-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Specifications/Groups
 See http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Design_Team/Proposals/Groups

Thanks for the links. I re-read the spec and mockups. Looks like a
fantastic start.

Brief comments

 - For closed groups managed by Moodle/XS, it would make things
easier for teacher if we could to read a URL from the group
description field, and show an icon that links there (opening
Browse.xo...)

 - The user management for closed groups already exists in Moodle (but
looks moodlish instead of Sugarish). This is in case Tomeu is lazy ;-)

cheers,


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Re: [Server-devel] Schools Wikipedia

2010-03-28 Thread David Leeming
What's the best way to automate this, so it starts up when the XS is started
without the need for people to enter the python server command line?


Hi,

The current Wikipedia activities already work as web servers on
the XS, and require much less space due to the content being
compressed -- for Spanish, 25,000 articles and 3,000 images in
100MB.

David pointed out that this isn't actually documented anywhere.  :)

Here's the HOWTO.  On a fresh XS, for English WP:

$ wget http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/enwiki/WikipediaEN-4.xo
$ unzip WikipediaEN-4.xo 
$ cd WikipediaEN.activity/
$ python server.py en_US_g1g1/en_US_g1g1.xml.bz2 4567

 then you can browse to http://schoolserver:4567/ on an XO or other
machine.

For Spanish, get http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/eswiki/Wikipedia-11.xo and
replace en_US_g1g1 with es_PE.

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[Server-devel] changing the admin XO

2010-03-28 Thread David Leeming
Is it possible to change the XO that is registered as the admin XO in Moodle
easily?  

 

David Leeming

 

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Re: [Server-devel] Moodle en español

2010-03-28 Thread Martin Langhoff
2010/3/25 Kevin Mauricio Benavides Castro kmbc141...@gmail.com:
 como puedo hacer para cambiar el lenguaje de moodle a español por que
 algunos profesores no entienden mucho el ingles
 ya que cuando acceden tiene el lenguaje en ingles ?

Si entras a Moodle como el usuario admin (mira en la página de
configuraciones y técnicas en el wiki para ver cómo se hace), en las
opciones de administración puedes pedirle que instale el language
pack español.

Después de eso, cambiás el idioma default de esa instalación de
Moodle y... listo!

saludos,



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